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The Beer at Your Shabbos Table

From the COLlive inbox: Recently, I went to my friend's house to have a few beers and it turns out 3 out of the 6 beers we were going to try were not Kosher! Full Story

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To the author
July 20, 2021 9:07 pm

“It behooves us as Chassidim of the Rebbe and Frumme Yidden to be extremely careful when it comes to something as important as what we put into our mouths.”

It also behooves us as Chassidim to go over to a friend to have “a few beers”. I can’t begin to tell you how ironic this is.

Please…
Reply to  To the author
July 20, 2021 11:25 pm

Please don’t mix halacha and hergesh

Conflating the two leads to bad places

And while we're on the same topic
July 20, 2021 9:24 pm

Why do frum yidden go to 7/11,Starbucks, slurpees, when we have our own kosher drinks? Do you really trust what goes in there? And if there is nothing around due to non kosher areas – its call water, best ever! Or be organized and stock in advance for your trip.

Ignoramis
Reply to  And while we're on the same topic
July 20, 2021 10:49 pm

Only an am haaeretz would ask such a question. Learn all the relevant halachos and you’ll see that 7/11 is not an issue.

As for “we have our own kosher drinks,” ever heard of עשר בשביל שתתעשר?

Actually there may be an issue.
Reply to  Ignoramis
July 21, 2021 9:49 am

First it’s nice to point out that you can spell am haaretz well, but not a clue on how to spell ignoramus. Which gives us a clue where you were educated. And thereby leads to the next point, there is actually a major issue with 711. You are relying on the non Jewish worker behind the counter, and trusting that he didn’t switch the kosher and non kosher flavors in the machine recently. They don’t do heavy cleaning and there’s some really treife slurped flavors. Food for thought. On the beer issue, every person should know the laws and do… Read more »

You think you know life, got news for you, you don
Reply to  Ignoramis
July 21, 2021 11:11 am

Going off topic but the foundation is there. A goyish nanny has been working 35 years for yidden making cholent. The baal habos made sure to follow all the halachos. As the nanny left the job she told the baal habos, I’ve been putting milk in your cholent all these years.
So I ask you mr. Ignoramus – you want to trust goyim? Thats Your belief and your problem. 7/11 is a goyish store that have hechshers on the drinks but you’ll not find me in there.

Mr know it all...

According to your argument the same concern we have for 7/11 we should have for our cleaning ladies.
There’s somethings we can’t control.
Just about everything store bought that you eat has a chance of being spiked with something non-kosher.
Hashgacha works. But there’s always a small risk when it comes to something we haven’t overlooked ourselves.

Replying...
Reply to  Mr know it all...
July 28, 2021 8:10 pm

In response: we can control not to go to 7/11 which is a goyish store, which is runned and overseen by goyim and we can control not allowing goyim in a kosher kitchen. The choice is yours. About your store bought “not kosher” idea: 1. It’s a jewish store 2. There is a rabbi behind 3. There are jewish managers who are overlooking the workers at all times.. think logically: would a jewish manager who oversees goyim working , would allow him to eat a cheeseburger while working on kosher packaging food? I should say not.

Check out this class too. Really clarifying info!
July 20, 2021 9:31 pm

Important topic,
Thank you for writing about this.
There was a past class posted on collive that also brought a lot of clarity on this topic.
See here – https://collive.com/kashrus-be-in-the-know-booze-schmooze/

Thanks
July 20, 2021 9:47 pm

Why don’t you list the non kosher beers as a public service??

Chanie
July 20, 2021 10:08 pm

Please list the 3 that are not kosher

Chaim
July 20, 2021 10:16 pm

Which store please post

Please list the non-kosher beers
July 20, 2021 10:19 pm

Thank you!!

Kosher Beers
Reply to  Please list the non-kosher beers
July 20, 2021 11:45 pm

Please list the beers that ARE kosher, it’s more positive!

When it comes to halachah
Reply to  Kosher Beers
July 21, 2021 3:47 pm

We have to be as clear as possible, so list both!

Puleeze
July 21, 2021 2:26 am

Everyone drinking the beer is an adult (I hope),so they decided to drink what they decided to drink. Isn’t that something between them and their creator. Since this post was not a simple Public Service Announcement (which if it was would simply list kosher and non-kosher beers), this seems unnecessarily critical of others. MYOB.

Hu??!!
July 21, 2021 5:29 am

What is a frum yid drinking BEER at a shabbos table?!

Mashke
Reply to  Hu??!!
July 21, 2021 11:50 am

What is a person drinking mashke by a shabbos table? There is nothing wrong with beer! The fact that people say it is bad is because it is a party drink or a drink that we will drink a lot of. When you ask any non jew what is worse mashke or beer? They will say mashke. In a way I understand the litvishe, more than lubavitch. Litvishe say do not drink anything. Lubavitch drink the harmful stuff,but not the thing with 3 percent. Because the non jews party with it. It is because they do not like the idea… Read more »

?partying mufrach
Reply to  Mashke
July 21, 2021 7:40 pm

“Der chosid zogt vos men meg nisht meg men nisht un vos mmeg ye meg men nisht oychet a bissel
Der misnaged zogt vos mmeg Meg men un vos mmeg nisht meg men oychet a bissel” BTW litvish also say lchaim saying lchaim on mashka by a farbrengen is a holy practice shown by the rebeim and great chasidim

Boruch Atta B'eer
Reply to  Hu??!!
July 22, 2021 11:16 am

Have you never gone to a Sholom Zochor?

Here's a list of ALL kosher liquor and beer
July 21, 2021 8:48 am
Wow!
Reply to  Here's a list of ALL kosher liquor and beer
July 25, 2021 11:10 pm

Thank you!

Here's a list of ALL kosher liquor and beer
July 21, 2021 8:48 am
Don't forget to mention Clam by Bud,
July 21, 2021 9:18 am

Bud Light Chelada Original With Clamato

Pinchos Woolstone
July 21, 2021 9:25 am

I believe the OU would list those beers which are Kosher.

important
July 21, 2021 10:23 am

An incredible important article!
Well researched

Shocking
July 21, 2021 1:26 pm

that’s really shocking thank you for posting

Beers I’ve seen
July 21, 2021 1:29 pm

I’ve seen Sierra Nevada and Shock Top in CH. Both are not recommended by the cRc

Wow
July 21, 2021 1:59 pm

Had no idea about this.

Who could have guessed???
July 21, 2021 2:02 pm

Thanks for this service announcement. It is very easy to make the mistake of assuming beer sold in a kosher shop would be kosher!!!!

Berel
July 21, 2021 3:01 pm

Just buy Corona

Wow!
July 21, 2021 3:50 pm

This is very helpful thankyou.

wonderful chizuk
July 21, 2021 9:47 pm

coors has an actual hechsher

it beats me
July 22, 2021 3:46 pm

why would you drink flavored beer?

I agree
Reply to  it beats me
July 23, 2021 4:18 am

It taste awful it just ruins the beer

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