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Spirit Deplanes Orlando Flight Because of Unmasked Toddler

The new "normal": Spirit Airlines deplaned an entire Orlando-New-York flight on Monday because a 2-year-old Jewish girl wasn't wearing a facemask. Update: The confrontational flight attendant was removed from duty. Full Story, Video

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kop dr
April 5, 2021 2:12 pm

ITS NOT WORTH IT . TAKE A CAR OR STAY HOME .

KIDS CANT SIT FOR 3 HRS WITH A MASK

Reality
Reply to  kop dr
April 6, 2021 1:44 am

Spirit’s rule is that anyone older than two must wear a mask. That child didn’t wear a mask (not only when he was eating). Spirit enforced their own rules.

Plus
Reply to  Reality
April 6, 2021 12:52 pm

They claim the adults weren’t wearing masks either. He is even taking it off during the video when talking to them. I think if we can try to have respect and remain calm before calling our lawyers and getting mean these things can be deescalated. Chilul Hashem is a thing. It doesn’t excuse biased flight personal. But we should be better than this.

Your just as bad as the flight attendant
Reply to  Reality
April 6, 2021 6:11 pm

He was eating

Just ridiculous!!
April 5, 2021 2:24 pm

SImply do not go anywhere!!

I travel 2hrs every day and kids can not wear a mask.

The People have to take charge
April 5, 2021 2:28 pm

If every passenger refused to wear a mask, airlines would quickly change their requirements. There is no health logic to this. At this point, covid is a virus like any other. We made it to the 21st century without masks, with G-d’s help, we will continue. Money talks. If there were no passengers…… we’d win quickly enough.

OMG!!
Reply to  The People have to take charge
April 5, 2021 2:34 pm

You wanna die? Mask’s help!! I was on a flight with a friend one week ago and i thank g-d was wearing a mask and he wasn’t. This week he was diagnosed with covid.
I have come out with a negative cuz i was wearing a mask on that flight.

This is not ok!?
Reply to  OMG!!
April 5, 2021 4:00 pm

Are you kidding????
It’s a 2 year old eating!!!!!

WRONG HEADLINE...
Reply to  This is not ok!?
April 5, 2021 6:46 pm

The child was eating…. The headlines is misleafing. When your eating, you can remove your mask. She was masked when NOT eating.

A flight isn’t the only way to get COVID
Reply to  OMG!!
April 5, 2021 4:49 pm

He could’ve gotten COVID anywhere else you can’t just blame it on not wearing a mask.

Masks
Reply to  OMG!!
April 5, 2021 4:49 pm

I agree. People should wear masks. But that isn’t how masks work. Masks prevent YOU from spreading COVID by slowing down the particles you expel. For example, a sneeze can travel several feet and travel at 30 mph. But, Covid propellent is too small for a mask to prevent from penetrating the mask. So it is quite possible that your friend would have gotten COVID even if they had been wearing a mask, or that they didn’t get COVID on that flight, but contracted it before or after they boarded. By all means, continue to wear your mask. But you… Read more »

SCIENCE
Reply to  Masks
April 5, 2021 11:48 pm

science has proven masks and distancing doesn’t work. its all lies. get over it. it was used to cheat the elections and get the greatest president out of the wh.

Really...
Reply to  SCIENCE
April 7, 2021 3:39 am

Show us this so called science that says that masks do not work. Please.

Masks are made and exist for a few reasons. One of them is to contain the spread of viruses. That’s a fact and real science backs that up. Stop spreading false information. People’s lives are at risk and just because 99% of your community may have had covid already, it doesn’t give you the right to to spread bad information and jeopardize the lives of other people. That’s Torah 101.

''your community''
Reply to  Really...
April 8, 2021 6:57 pm

notice the words “your community” this is obviously a troll

science
Reply to  Really...
April 12, 2021 1:53 pm

can you show scientific proof that masks work, stop fear mongering, and spreading false info that you safe.

Bobby Lee Pickens
Reply to  OMG!!
April 5, 2021 5:15 pm

You sure you got covid on the flight? Sounds like you’re making an assumption. BTW, how is it that you’re friend was allowed to fly while not wearing a mask. Your story isn’t adding up. I’m thinking you’re just a troll making stuff up. I think the male flight attendant is anti-Semitic. I also think Spirit Airlines should fire him for being racist. I also think covid has given people, especially flight attendants, the authority to be racist, prejudiced idiots. Traveling is hard enough without all the fear mongering narks trying to make other people’s lives harder. If you’re take… Read more »

BS
Reply to  OMG!!
April 5, 2021 7:48 pm

Masks do not block viral particles! Ever!

Mendele
Reply to  BS
April 6, 2021 12:18 am

Really? Your science degree is from where exactly?

If you are a jew
Reply to  Mendele
April 6, 2021 11:13 am

Then your belief in non jewish humans comes from where exactly?

Really...
Reply to  BS
April 7, 2021 3:41 am

Yeah, show us the studies please. It’s laughable what you’ve been brainwashed to believe.

cdc
Reply to  OMG!!
April 5, 2021 11:46 pm

The transmission of Covid-19 on surfaces “is considered to be low,” CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said on Monday. The risk of infection is “generally less than 1 in 10,000.” 


If you really believe
Reply to  OMG!!
April 6, 2021 1:13 am

If you really believe that your mask is what protected you then you’re as stupid as those who believe red strings protect them.

And assuming you’re under about 80 and in reasonable general health you’re an idiot to worry about catching it anyway. The propaganda that it is killing significant numbers of healthy young people is simply lies.

Plus
Reply to  If you really believe
April 6, 2021 12:55 pm

So. Science is wrong and kabbalah and segulahs?? Detox your hate and anger. The election is over. Let’s move on with Sholom and Kovod. The maga “punch back” is not in line with torah values.

“Science”?
Reply to  Plus
April 6, 2021 3:52 pm

The commenter above you is correct. Masks preventing the spread of Wuhan flu, or of any other virus, is not science, but the opposite. That was recognized by all scientists until 2020, and even now a significant number of them say so.

As for the “hate and anger,” look in the mirror, because you, not that commenter, are showing that, as evidenced by your immediate jump to accusations of “maga punch back.”

Really...
Reply to  If you really believe
April 7, 2021 3:45 am

Masks help. Period.
They are not fool proof, but wearing one correctly is better than not wearing one at all. Just because you and many in your community have likely had covid and are at a low risk for re-infection, it doesn’t give you the right to put other people in danger. Get over yourself.

Dr Jeff lodmen
Reply to  OMG!!
April 7, 2021 10:19 pm

I am thoroughlY outraEd at the lack of intelligence in this conversation as proven by many study’s (a fw I partiCipated myself in) that the transmission rate squared by the deatH rate (depending on age) Is .00000347 out of 100,000 people which is less then the risk of flying on a airplane which is .000005 so thank you and fly safely

omg
Reply to  OMG!!
April 12, 2021 1:49 pm

how do you know this friend got the virus on the flight, 99 percent of people with covid do not die, stop the insanity.

Money doesn't talk!!
Reply to  The People have to take charge
April 5, 2021 2:35 pm

I will wear a mask on all flights!!
I dunno about you!!

anti-semitism
April 5, 2021 2:29 pm

so pathetic, they would never do this do blacks. they know they can get away with it towards jews

It's not us vs them
Reply to  anti-semitism
April 6, 2021 1:30 am

When something antisemitic happens why do I always see people making statements like this? You are implying that we are treated more unfairly then Black people. Both Black and Jewish communities are treated unfairly all the time in different ways. Do we need to compare who has it worse? Your statement could just end in “this is antisemitic”, let’s think about why you would bring up the Black community at all. If you are concerned about antisemitism, you should be concerned about racism. Did you know Black people don’t liked being called “blacks”, Or “the blacks”. Let’s show respect as… Read more »

Fake News
Reply to  anti-semitism
April 6, 2021 10:19 am

there are literally countless stories of this happening to non-Jewish people, but enjoy your bubble.

“Countless”
Reply to  Fake News
April 6, 2021 3:53 pm

Well, then, refer us to one of those “countless” examples, if they exist.

Such silly terrorists..
April 5, 2021 2:41 pm

Remember back in the 80’s when people that wanted to hijack a flight needed to actually smuggle guns onto the plane… they could’ve saved themselves the trouble by just NOT bringing a face mask…

Not the 80s
Reply to  Such silly terrorists..
April 5, 2021 4:21 pm

hijacking planes is from the early 2 mid 70s not the 80s, learn ur facts

Really...
Reply to  Not the 80s
April 7, 2021 3:50 am

Wow. How about you learn your facts. There were 33 hijacking and/or hijack attempts in the 1980s. Before you talk down to someone, why don’t you google the facts first. It’s listed clearly on wikipedia one by one.

1938?
April 5, 2021 2:46 pm

isn’t a matter of to travel or not the antisemites are showing them real face

Boycott
April 5, 2021 2:58 pm

Every time an airline fusses about a two year old not wearing a mask we should boycott that airline and put them out of business!

Boycott
Reply to  Boycott
April 6, 2021 11:45 am

Or just never fly spirit or frontier. They always have terrible service for years. And very bad cs. You need to be able to call them.

This is so disgusting
April 5, 2021 2:59 pm

Pure anti-Semitism enough is enough!!

Really...
Reply to  This is so disgusting
April 7, 2021 3:52 am

Bring out all the shopping bags and tin foil with sandwiches and schnitzel before takeoff. They love when you do that.

No masks!
April 5, 2021 3:13 pm

Masks make no sense ! Are annoying! Simple communism!

Crown heights
April 5, 2021 3:31 pm

There is no proof that mask works.

Ohh man!!
Reply to  Crown heights
April 5, 2021 4:52 pm

OMG!! You ppl in crown heights are not mask wearers! Ppl in the UK – London specifically we ALL wear masks!! I travel almost every day 1hr 30mins – 2hrs and me for sure have minimized many, many risks of catching covid so far!! You guys need a little bit of education. Lemme tell ya all that you guys are lucky that you are no where near close to having a Pesach like last year BH. But, look everywhere else across the world. Masks & Sanitzization has saved 1000’s of ppl for sure!! If maks do not help then I… Read more »

Yes...
Reply to  Ohh man!!
April 5, 2021 5:30 pm

The superstitious have always had some talisman to which they could attribute their good fortune. Used to be things like their favorite idolatrous image, or a rabbit’s foot, or whatever; now it’s a mask.

Meanwhile, in Crown Heights we’re having a fine time of it, BH. We had a severe outbreak last year, sure (mind you, that was when the “public health experts,” of the likes of Fauxci, were saying _not_ to wear masks), but not since then.

Masks
Reply to  Yes...
April 6, 2021 7:13 am

In Crown Heights last week my son was on oxygen in hospital because of Covid. BH he is home now but still seriously weak and unable to do anything. Don’t think you are above the law. Wear masks when around other people for your sake and theirs.

Refuah Shelaima Immediate Recovery!
Reply to  Masks
April 6, 2021 11:07 am

Masks still don’t help- being careful with hygiene might

sorry
Reply to  Refuah Shelaima Immediate Recovery!
April 6, 2021 4:11 pm

this is such a grub, kaltekeit, trumpism response. The commenter just wrote that his son was in the hospital and you have the chutzpah to tell him masks dont help, hygiene? What is wrong with us, please, this insanity has to end. Since 2016 our community has lost as sense of chessed and ahavas yisroel and basic mentshlichkeit, and replaced it with MAGA MAGA MAGA

Refuah shleimah
Reply to  Masks
April 6, 2021 3:56 pm

Refuah shleimah to your son. People who want to wear masks – gezunterheit, but let’s not pretend that he wouldn’t have gotten it if everyone was wearing one, because it just ain’t so. Take a look, for example, at the states that have no mask mandates, and notice that their infection rates are far lower.

Berel
Reply to  Ohh man!!
April 5, 2021 5:38 pm

oi shekain oi sheloi

Proof is in the pudding
Reply to  Ohh man!!
April 6, 2021 12:32 am

You say yourself we are nowhere near having the pesach we had last year. Our community has passed the bump BH ( and what a large one that was). Few masks and we are doing fine thank god. Different communities may want to be more careful specifically if they had not had a big spread yet. You do you, don’t hate on us- especially since you yourself realize that no harm is coming from us just acting like normal humans.

masks and sanatization
Reply to  Ohh man!!
April 6, 2021 2:21 pm

more than thousands

sorry
Reply to  Ohh man!!
April 6, 2021 4:08 pm

I apologize on behalf of my fellow new yorkers/americans, we are super super lazy and entitlted and dont think science is real, or facts, we just like to yell about libs and the goverment trying to control us.

despite all science saying masks help, and rules that EVERY SINGLE other passenger has to follow, but this guy said he is gonna call his lawyer, so … i guess were special, dont dare tell us what to do.

The chilul hashem we make, hashem yishmor, we were once better than this …

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Reply to  Crown heights
April 5, 2021 5:38 pm

but there is also no proof that they don’t work. so who are you to decide not to wear one in a case of ‘sofeik pikuach nefesh’?

Maybe red strings work too
Reply to  ----
April 6, 2021 1:16 am

There’s just as much evidence for masks as for red strings, i.e. none to speak of. So who are you to decide not to wear a red string in a case of “sofeik pikuach nefesh”?

Well, then
Reply to  ----
April 6, 2021 8:22 am

You must stand on your head for 60 minutes at a time, every day, and also send $1000 each to five random people once a week. There’s no proof that those don’t work, and by your logic you must do those because of safek pikuach nefesh.

Response to "well, tthen"
Reply to  Well, then
April 6, 2021 3:39 pm

oh please. don’t play that game please. don’t make me explain to you why they are different. They are different because 1) There are MANY studies (I know, I know, just studies, not evidence) which show that masks DO work, whereas there are NO studies showing that what you said works. 2) It is very conceivable (even to someone who did no research) why masks could possibly work, whereas it is absolutely inconceivable why what you said would work (and hey, maybe that’s why I haven’t heard about it at all) 3) Your way includes spending a lot of money… Read more »

What?
Reply to  ----
April 6, 2021 9:51 am

That us like saying always wear a helmet cuz maybe you’ll be hit by a car

Prolonged Mask use can cause severe illness
Reply to  ----
April 6, 2021 11:11 am

5 year old boy rushed to ER with severe respiratory illness caused by what DR termed as mask overuse-

Boycott Spirit
April 5, 2021 3:38 pm

Then they’ll learn

Stupid rule
April 5, 2021 4:26 pm

Pure and poshut Anti Jews.
We are still in golus.

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Reply to  Stupid rule
April 5, 2021 5:52 pm

Just curious, what makes you sure that it is anti-Semitism and not just an irrational stewardess? Don’t get me wrong, Anti-Semitism is a strong possibility, but you should really learn to only make bold statements against other people if you have clear proof of their wrongdoing.

יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן פְּרַחְיָה אוֹמֵר, עֲשֵׂה לְךָ רַב, וּקְנֵה לְךָ חָבֵר, וֶהֱוֵי דָן אֶת כָּל הָאָדָם לְכַף זְכוּת
אבות א׳:ו׳

What difference
Reply to  ----
April 6, 2021 1:20 am

You’re right that it may not be antisemitism, and one shouldn’t make definite statements that may not be true, but what difference does it make whether it is or is not antisemitism? Why is an antisemitic motive worse than whatever other bigotry or superstition or power trip may have been bugging this person? Where is it written that it’s wrong for nochrim to be antisemites? Are they metzuveh in ahavas yisroel?!

umm
Reply to  What difference
April 6, 2021 4:16 pm

umm… maybe because if it’s not Anti-Semitism, then they are just taking advantage of their power. And if it is anti semetism, then they are taking advantage of their power AND being anti-semitic.

And nobody said they are metzuveh in ahavas yisroel. but as YOU said, it is still wrong, both on a Torah level, and on a politicly correct level.

What?
Reply to  ----
April 6, 2021 9:53 am

If they were black this would never happen cuz the flight attendant knows the repercussions it would have

reply to ----
Reply to  ----
April 7, 2021 10:40 am

I traveled with my husband, who looks very Jewish, a week ago, and had the exact same experience. It was an early flight and while he was eating his breakfast, the black stewardess insisted that he wear his mask. Even though he promised to wear the mask as soon as he finishes the sandwich, she informed us that the pilot will remove him from ever traveling on this airline. Across the aisle a person was drinking his coffee and she passed him by without saying a word. I complained to the airline, and as yet have not received a response.… Read more »

Seriously?!
Reply to  Stupid rule
April 6, 2021 7:16 pm

Anti semites will one day learn the hard way. Not that they already haven’t but yeah.
Wait for it – people will say “black lives matter and the steward can’t go to jail”…

power trip is OVA!
April 5, 2021 4:49 pm

it will be a while until another one of these stories happens flight attendants dont want to lose their jobs the power trip is over for them as it has been shown there is thankfully accountibility for abusers spirit doesnt want their employees to make parents of 2 yr olds crazy about mask wearing it comes across as nit picky and cold i flew recently with spirit the same stewardess told me to pull my mask up over my nose twice both times it was up but i guess not enough to her liking I was chewing gum and it… Read more »

It’s so simple
April 5, 2021 7:07 pm

Literally all you need to do is get a letter from a doctor saying that your two year old has “sensory issues” and cannot wear a mask. This will qualify them for exemption, and every airline must legally honor that.

Flight
April 5, 2021 7:09 pm

It says on the Spirit Airlines site that 2 year olds and up need a mask. The flight attendant was just doing her job.
On take-off, one is not allowing wed to have the tray down.
Two year olds are supposed to be in their own seat.
It was a chilul Hashem.

YOU are a chilul hashem
Reply to  Flight
April 6, 2021 1:28 am

I don’t care what the web site says. If a 2-year-old refuses to wear a mask what do you expect the parents to do? 2-year-olds can’t be reasoned with. And if you try to forcibly hold a mask onto a screaming child’s face you should be arrested.

well well
Reply to  Flight
April 7, 2021 5:46 pm

It was not take off yet, and she was using her job the wrong way if an adult refuses to wear a mask that one thing but if a 2 year old is not wearing a mask when she is eating then that is no reason to kick a family off.

Remind me is this still America?
April 5, 2021 7:43 pm

This doesnt feel like America anymore SICK SICK sick

Insert liberal comment here..
April 5, 2021 11:21 pm

Spirit airlines posted a comment blaming the parents, then removed it. That should say enough

Never fly Spirit!!!
April 6, 2021 7:33 am

What a disgusting way to treat a family with children!!!!!

Yossel
April 6, 2021 12:57 pm

Isn’t it amazing how they’re crazy about wearing a mask (most of which are Chinese made KN95 masks (KN stands for knock off) and re NOT for medical purposes, but the airlines pack people into the planes like sardines!!

POLITICS
April 6, 2021 7:28 pm

the masks are just political.

Really...
Reply to  POLITICS
April 7, 2021 3:57 am

Surely. Political across the world. SMH

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April 7, 2021 5:58 pm

this is why i dont fly spirit.

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