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Should I Refuse to Let the School Evaluate My Child

A concerned Crown Heights mother wants to know whether to allow the Yeshiva to evaluate her son, since a learning disability is seen as a stigma by many. Operation Survival asks Dr. Shimon Waronker to respond. Full Story, Video

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Chinuch
August 5, 2019 10:46 am

How low have we fallen that parents forget that they are the primary ones responsible for their Childs chinuch. Chanoch hanar Al pindarko has all the yesodos for parents to mechanech their children as well as all the Rebbe’s Torah. Why do we need to resort to the world’s view of how chinuch should be approached (unless I’m a case that specialists are needed) when we have the buetiful way our chabad chassidus has outlined!

To Chinuch
Reply to  Chinuch
August 5, 2019 11:17 am

Please advise where i can find the Lubavitch Derech in speech therapy?

Reply
Reply to  To Chinuch
August 5, 2019 12:04 pm

“unless in a case that specialists are needed”

To Chinuch
Reply to  Reply
August 5, 2019 12:39 pm

“unless in a case that specialists are needed”

The points is that it is not uncommon for specialist to be needed for children. A high percentage of children need some type of therapy or intervention.

Therapy
Reply to  To Chinuch
August 5, 2019 3:16 pm

“a high percentage”… I’m sorry but saying that shows that there is something wrong with our society. Saying that says that children these days are not developed properly. I’m sorry but what you a saying is not true!

PLS EDUCATE YOURSELF
Reply to  Therapy
August 5, 2019 4:31 pm

You don’t understand what therapay and intervention is. Why would you not seek help from those who are much more educated then you in the feild? Just becuase you’re a parent does not mean you can properly deal with your child and their specific needs. Please seek help with that! If your child cant see you go to a specialist why is there no stigma in that just in either mental health or learning disabilities. Which YES most kids have some form. Does not mean there is something wrong with society it means we are now more aware that people… Read more »

pls
Reply to  PLS EDUCATE YOURSELF
August 5, 2019 11:48 pm

SEE the comment below… he has some great points. Therapy has little or no oversite . The schools often get extra funding and the “organizations” pocket huge amounts of money. first and foremost parents and teachers should truly work with the child. Then if intervention is needed it should be pursued but from ppl without alterior motives.

Larry
August 5, 2019 10:54 am

I don’t think a child that needs help with his reading necessarily is a child with special needs. They are those with special needs and then there are those kids who just need help in getting their reading skills much better which if it’s caught at the right time will save the child and parents a lot of headaches in the future

Agree
Reply to  Larry
August 5, 2019 12:36 pm

How silly to label a child that receives only speech therapy as one with special needs

To agree
Reply to  Agree
August 5, 2019 1:17 pm

No one is labeling the child special needs. That is exactly his point. The child has special needs. It is not the same. Every child has some sort of special needs. T

The stigma is what is preventing people from getting help.

PLS EDUCATE YOURSELF
Reply to  Larry
August 5, 2019 4:27 pm

You clearly misunderstood his point.

We were these parents
August 5, 2019 2:53 pm

My son was diagnosed with LD & other things at an early age because the Yeshiva told us we had to put him on medication. So we had to have him evaluated & the specialists agreed there were different issues. We took care of it WITHOUT meds & it was the best thing we ever did. Not only did he go through the system & get Smicha he married a girl from a very prominent family, he’s a successful businessman, a father, a baal tzedakah & a pillar in his shul and community. If we wouldn’t have been forced to… Read more »

Pride!
Reply to  We were these parents
August 9, 2019 6:29 pm

This is a beautiful story, and you should have lots of nachas. But let me point out- not only did “stigma” not interfere with his life, lehepech! the help he got, along with good parents, tefilla, and Hashem’s help, enabled his success! He should not only not be ashamed of his struggles and the help he got, he should be so proud of his journey and hard work, and thankful to his parents, teachers etc. Please don’t feel that hiding this is necessary, so many can be helped by hearing this story.

Abusing the system
August 5, 2019 3:14 pm

There is nothing wrong with getting help for your child , the problem begins when the school that he is in or wants to go refuses them because of the help that they need . it is the school that are taking advantage of these children & lableing them & claiming that they belong in a special school

if you can't trust the school
Reply to  Abusing the system
August 5, 2019 8:54 pm

then you probably should consider a better school instead of always questioning and doubting and never happy with how things are organized.

Kick Back
August 5, 2019 4:19 pm

Is it true or not that schools get kick backs for special needs Children

if this is true, I would question the integrity of the Evaluation

if it’s not true then they should search for the answer what is wrong

LA Morah
Reply to  Kick Back
August 5, 2019 6:54 pm

It’s important to note that children who need this help but do not receive it are at a much greater risk for developing mental health issues including substance abuse.

It's True
Reply to  LA Morah
August 5, 2019 9:41 pm

It looks like you agree it’s true

Sam
Reply to  It's True
August 5, 2019 11:24 pm

It is hard to believe that in 2019 people are questioning the benefits of intervention and therapy for young children. Thank you COL for posting these clips and leading this important conversation.

He has some great points but....
August 5, 2019 11:16 pm

It depends on who is doing the evaluation. There is a ton of money in the special needs field with many “organizations” that tap into that money. When they evaluate they often have their own pockets in mind. Ie if a child just needs speech therapy they will often send him to all their other services as well. In addition if the evaluations are read they are often exaggerated to even get the services to begin with. So evaluate but with the right ppl….

Sam
Reply to  He has some great points but....
August 6, 2019 12:07 am

Doctors make money off every blood test and visit yet we trust medical professionals. A good mental health professional can be trusted as well. I find these comments insular and dangerous.

Schools need to have the PARENTS, evaluated
August 6, 2019 1:33 pm

Schools facing resistance by parents, to have their children evaluated and or facing parental resistance to be willing to accept the needed intervention for their children, the schools need to change course. At this point, the school needs to stop demanding, the parents cooperation, to help their children, and instead, the school needs to now demand, that the parents themselves need to be evaluated. In such cases, the parents need far more help than the children. It’s a clear indicator that the parents don’t have their head, on strait, and perhaps the parents need more therapy than the children do.… Read more »

LA Morah
Reply to  Schools need to have the PARENTS, evaluated
August 6, 2019 4:12 pm

You said it EXACTLY how it is!

former in denial parent here
Reply to  Schools need to have the PARENTS, evaluated
August 8, 2019 8:05 am

Once a long time ago, I was once a parent who ignored my child’s problems. I knew her behavior was not typical and ignored all the signs… fast forward a few years later, my child gets services and is thriving! I love love your reply!

LA Morah
Reply to  former in denial parent here
August 9, 2019 3:06 pm

BH your child received the help she needed. Developmentally, academically and emotionally,the sooner a child is helped,the better.

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