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    Should I Refuse to Let the School Evaluate My Child

    A concerned Crown Heights mother wants to know whether to allow the Yeshiva to evaluate her son, since a learning disability is seen as a stigma by many. Operation Survival asks Dr. Shimon Waronker to respond. Full Story, Video

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    Chinuch
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    Chinuch

    How low have we fallen that parents forget that they are the primary ones responsible for their Childs chinuch. Chanoch hanar Al pindarko has all the yesodos for parents to mechanech their children as well as all the Rebbe’s Torah. Why do we need to resort to the world’s view of how chinuch should be approached (unless I’m a case that specialists are needed) when we have the buetiful way our chabad chassidus has outlined!

    To Chinuch
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    To Chinuch

    Please advise where i can find the Lubavitch Derech in speech therapy?

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    Reply

    “unless in a case that specialists are needed”

    To Chinuch
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    To Chinuch

    “unless in a case that specialists are needed”

    The points is that it is not uncommon for specialist to be needed for children. A high percentage of children need some type of therapy or intervention.

    Therapy
    Guest
    Therapy

    “a high percentage”… I’m sorry but saying that shows that there is something wrong with our society. Saying that says that children these days are not developed properly. I’m sorry but what you a saying is not true!

    PLS EDUCATE YOURSELF
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    PLS EDUCATE YOURSELF

    You don’t understand what therapay and intervention is. Why would you not seek help from those who are much more educated then you in the feild? Just becuase you’re a parent does not mean you can properly deal with your child and their specific needs. Please seek help with that! If your child cant see you go to a specialist why is there no stigma in that just in either mental health or learning disabilities. Which YES most kids have some form. Does not mean there is something wrong with society it means we are now more aware that people… Read more »

    pls
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    pls

    SEE the comment below… he has some great points. Therapy has little or no oversite . The schools often get extra funding and the “organizations” pocket huge amounts of money. first and foremost parents and teachers should truly work with the child. Then if intervention is needed it should be pursued but from ppl without alterior motives.

    Larry
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    Larry

    I don’t think a child that needs help with his reading necessarily is a child with special needs. They are those with special needs and then there are those kids who just need help in getting their reading skills much better which if it’s caught at the right time will save the child and parents a lot of headaches in the future

    Agree
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    Agree

    How silly to label a child that receives only speech therapy as one with special needs

    To agree
    Guest
    To agree

    No one is labeling the child special needs. That is exactly his point. The child has special needs. It is not the same. Every child has some sort of special needs. T

    The stigma is what is preventing people from getting help.

    PLS EDUCATE YOURSELF
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    PLS EDUCATE YOURSELF

    You clearly misunderstood his point.

    We were these parents
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    We were these parents

    My son was diagnosed with LD & other things at an early age because the Yeshiva told us we had to put him on medication. So we had to have him evaluated & the specialists agreed there were different issues. We took care of it WITHOUT meds & it was the best thing we ever did. Not only did he go through the system & get Smicha he married a girl from a very prominent family, he’s a successful businessman, a father, a baal tzedakah & a pillar in his shul and community. If we wouldn’t have been forced to… Read more »

    Pride!
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    Pride!

    This is a beautiful story, and you should have lots of nachas. But let me point out- not only did “stigma” not interfere with his life, lehepech! the help he got, along with good parents, tefilla, and Hashem’s help, enabled his success! He should not only not be ashamed of his struggles and the help he got, he should be so proud of his journey and hard work, and thankful to his parents, teachers etc. Please don’t feel that hiding this is necessary, so many can be helped by hearing this story.

    Abusing the system
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    Abusing the system

    There is nothing wrong with getting help for your child , the problem begins when the school that he is in or wants to go refuses them because of the help that they need . it is the school that are taking advantage of these children & lableing them & claiming that they belong in a special school

    if you can't trust the school
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    if you can't trust the school

    then you probably should consider a better school instead of always questioning and doubting and never happy with how things are organized.

    Kick Back
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    Kick Back

    Is it true or not that schools get kick backs for special needs Children

    if this is true, I would question the integrity of the Evaluation

    if it’s not true then they should search for the answer what is wrong

    LA Morah
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    LA Morah

    It’s important to note that children who need this help but do not receive it are at a much greater risk for developing mental health issues including substance abuse.

    It's True
    Guest
    It's True

    It looks like you agree it’s true

    Sam
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    Sam

    It is hard to believe that in 2019 people are questioning the benefits of intervention and therapy for young children. Thank you COL for posting these clips and leading this important conversation.

    He has some great points but....
    Guest
    He has some great points but....

    It depends on who is doing the evaluation. There is a ton of money in the special needs field with many “organizations” that tap into that money. When they evaluate they often have their own pockets in mind. Ie if a child just needs speech therapy they will often send him to all their other services as well. In addition if the evaluations are read they are often exaggerated to even get the services to begin with. So evaluate but with the right ppl….

    Sam
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    Sam

    Doctors make money off every blood test and visit yet we trust medical professionals. A good mental health professional can be trusted as well. I find these comments insular and dangerous.

    Schools need to have the PARENTS, evaluated
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    Schools need to have the PARENTS, evaluated

    Schools facing resistance by parents, to have their children evaluated and or facing parental resistance to be willing to accept the needed intervention for their children, the schools need to change course. At this point, the school needs to stop demanding, the parents cooperation, to help their children, and instead, the school needs to now demand, that the parents themselves need to be evaluated. In such cases, the parents need far more help than the children. It’s a clear indicator that the parents don’t have their head, on strait, and perhaps the parents need more therapy than the children do.… Read more »

    LA Morah
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    LA Morah

    You said it EXACTLY how it is!

    former in denial parent here
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    former in denial parent here

    Once a long time ago, I was once a parent who ignored my child’s problems. I knew her behavior was not typical and ignored all the signs… fast forward a few years later, my child gets services and is thriving! I love love your reply!

    LA Morah
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    LA Morah

    BH your child received the help she needed. Developmentally, academically and emotionally,the sooner a child is helped,the better.

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