By Sandy Eller – Under the Chuppah Magazine
Ah, shidduchim. For some people, dating is the stuff that fairy tales are made of. Boy meets girl. They click instantly, and before you know it, they are walking down to the chupah, ready to start building their own bayis ne’eman b’yisroel.
In other cases, the process is nowhere near as smooth. From my own personal experiences, I can tell you about the guy who came dressed from head to toe in gray, from his yarmulka down to the tips of his polished oxfords, the guy whose engine died on the highway and after pulling over and surveying the exterior of the vehicle, sagely noted, “Well, the tires look okay,” and the guy who tried to convince me that his soul had come back from the other side to atone for his previous sins and tried to pick up another girl while still out on a date with me.
But really, those incidents are mere drops in the bucket of shidduch woes, with some people out there having real “war stories” to share. Here are some of them with the real names changed in the interests of privacy:
For some reason, Malky attracted more than her fair share of crazies. Among them was the gentleman who told her that his proudest moment as a teacher had been the time he slapped a student across the face and insisted that Malky walk behind him on a visit to a museum, chastising her sharply when she accidentally stepped onto an escalator before him. That same paragon of virtue also scolded Malky for eating a muffin in his car, explaining that his car was kosher l’Pesach, which was slightly unusual since their date took place just one week after Rosh Hashana.
And then there was the time that Malky got a call from her good friend Debbie who had just come home from a date. The man in question admired a particularly large house that they passed in a well-to-do suburban neighborhood, commenting wistfully, “Boy, would I like to get into that house.” Debbie thought the remark a little odd, but Malky reassured her that he obviously meant that if the exterior was that beautiful, surely the inside must have been stunning as well. The next morning, when Debbie still found herself disturbed by the remark, she contacted a friend on the local police force and asked him to run a check on her date. It turned out that Debbie was right to be concerned. Her date had been arrested not once, but twice, for breaking and entering.
No doubt you have heard the stories about guys who may be old enough to date, but still haven’t learned their manners yet. Like the gentleman who took Esti to a nice restaurant, and then proceeded to use his tie as a napkin. Or the guy who came to pick up Shani in Boro Park and instead of coming in, honked vigorously outside the window, waiting for her to come to the car. When Shani’s cousin went outside to tell him that the date had been canceled because of his lack of chivalry, the young man replied dejectedly, “Man, they always say that!”
Others report dating the types who can politely be labeled as “blissfully unaware.” Like the guy who rented a car to take Leah to a baseball game and then forgot not just where he parked, but what the car looked like, sparking an hour-long search through the Citi Field parking lot to find the right vehicle.
And there’s Benjy, who spent an entire evening trying not to gag because his date didn’t exactly smell like a rose. It wasn’t until he got home that Benjy realized that he had stepped into something rather unpleasant on the sidewalk which had stuck to the bottom of his shoe. It was him, not his date, who was the malodorous one.
Lest you think that it is only the ladies who come home with war stories, guys are equally affected. Ari and Shevy had already dated a few times when he agreed to pick her up in Far Rockaway where she had spent Shabbos. Arriving on time in his cousin’s brand new car to pick up Shevy, Ari loaded her suitcase and her bag into the car. The two drove off to spend a pleasant afternoon in Central Park, only to discover hours later that the car had been towed. Both Ari and Shevy stayed calm as their date progressed from the park to the tow pound, where Ari spent $300 to retrieve the car, which thankfully, still held all of Shevy’s possessions.
David had the misfortune of taking a date to a restaurant that just wasn’t up to snuff. While the food was mediocre, the service was far worse, and David left a nominal tip that he felt accurately reflected their rather dismal dining experience, telling his date that the meal had left a lot to be desired. It wasn’t until the shadchan called David to read him the riot act that he found out that the restaurant was owned by his date’s parents!
While members of both sexes may have had their fill of dates with no ambition or personality, it is usually the gentleman who has the pleasure of paying for a wasted evening. Daniel recalled young ladies who ordered two main courses, nibbled at both of them and then asked the waiter to pack up the leftovers for them to take home.
Or another date who seemed to know every person in the restaurant that they visited and spent the entire night talking to everyone in the room except Daniel, who just sat and ate his meal alone… “I would have gone home and just left her there except I was hungry,” remarked Daniel.
Finally, there are parents to contend with. Sruli endured an hour and 20-minute long interrogation from one father, and when he finally paused to ask Sruli what kind of girl he wanted, Sruli wearily replied “an orphan.”
Shmuel had the pleasure of another loquacious father when he began dating Nechama. “On the first date, her father spent 35 minutes talking to me,” said Sammy. “The second date was 45 minutes. The third 55. By the time we got to date number six he called me up on the date and said, ‘If you don’t mind, come back after the date and we’ll shmooze some more.'” Suffice it to say there was no date number seven.
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Bottom line is that if you like someone you would be willing to overlook the mishugasim.
The girls story is always more dramatic. Maybe the female author can explain.
#42 should be a follow up article. Totally reasonable, understandable, and similar to what I was thinking.
But I would skip the for “entertainment” purposes part, and leave in the thought provoking words on top.
Haha!
I like it a lot. This should be the follow up article…
_______________________________________ BY POPULAR DEMAND – THE FULL STORIES _______________________________________ [Most of the details that I will be pointing out here are clearly deductible from THE STORIES THEMSELVES, minimal guesswork and “benefit of the doubt” was used. Please take all this in a humorous note.] [For entertainment and thought-provoking purposes only.] THE GIRL WHO DIDN’T KNOW MEN’S CLOTHING STYLE The man had a taste for fashion. He matched his polished oxford shoes and his yarmulke to the color of his expensive and stylish gray suit. Pretty cool. The girl though, clearly considered this to be a “war story” and decided to… Read more »
A good friend of mine, also an English speaker, went out with an Israeli Hebrew speaking girl who also didn’t know any English. They got married with the Rebbe’s bracha and lived happily ever after. Maybe they couldn’t fight because the didn’t have a common language.
BTW… I think the article was just meant to be humorous, so don’t go searching for or expecting deep insights. If you didn’t find it humorous don’t get all kvetchy about it. Not all humor appeals to all people.
Dovid
i went out on a couple of dates and interesting things happens all the time on both sides of the aisles it’s all a matter of attitude my wife and I always laugh at each other for the foolish things each of us did while dating
Needed a good laugh!!!
Lighten up everyone and maybe have a little bitachon!
It’s out of our hands so enjoy the ride!
are u trying to make me have a dating phobia?
It’s 100% muttar. One can assume that many lemons were sliced with the same knife, so the shamnunis was wiped off on this first few, which then become boteil in the “clean” lemon slices. It’s a befeirushe Shulchan Aruch.
The one date I went on the guy kept telling me his pants were too big until they actually fell down!!!!
So I went out with a guy, who went on for 20 minutes about all the smicha he has and how he went to burmwa yeshiva in France bla bla bla. He ordered a drink .. Then be continued to drink from his glass that had a lemon wedge on it….. The hotel we sat in had an open bar with food and drinks…. I asked him how he can do that halachichly?
Lesson is… Don’t spend 20 minutes talking about urself and the halacha u claim to know from becoming a rabbi unless u wanna get burned
Dating can be very stressful (for goyim too, btw). This article is silly and doesn’t seem to have any real tachlis other than to share some amusing anecdotes (although I agree with one of the other commentators; what is wrong with wearing all grey?!) Like #31, I worry about all the undo pressure put on people dating. There will always be people who are good at dating and those that are not. Those who are well mannered and those that are not. High strung girls, clueless guys (and vice versa…) but the real problem is the pressuring to marry when… Read more »
True as ever!
And to 7, What about the girls, they need to grow up too… Everyone is just as fault, a grown up girl is not crying 2 hours after, relax, u date the first time to see if u wanna date again and eventually date to get married. It’s time for both party’s boys and girls to stop dramatizing the whole dating world. What you do point out, is a true point for anyone and everyone, there must be better education and better guidance in the shoddy home world, both boy and girl need a guide if it’s a parent or… Read more »
I was expecting it to either a) have a point or b) be funny. This is neither… And trust me, these stories are *nothing* compared to the real shidduch war stories. The truly traumatic ones -manipulative guys/girls; being made to jump through crazy hoops to prove if you’re “good enough” for someone; getting pressured to “just get engaged already” by the person you’re on a date with; being scolded that you’re “wasting his money” or “being cruel to her” by dating with doubts so you must decide right now, break up or get engaged; undisclosed mental illness; inappropriate overtures and… Read more »
Maybe the guy is the naive one, why can’t the girl suggest something…
And wouldn’t it be so much more helpful and less harmfull in the long run if we just said what we thought, if we were hosnest from day one and not just trying to impress him or her!!!
The must stop!
Loving the Under The Chuppa magazine.
These stories are so funny — I was laughing through all — no reason to get all “worked up” — it’s light-hearted humor — got to laugh at how funny life can be… I remember the time I went on date– they told me everything about him except one little detail they “forgot” to mention– that he didn’t speak any English– only yiddish and Hebrew– I only found out after he showed up at my door after traveling several hours to see me– I don’t speak yiddish and only very broken Hebrew– what was I to do?– we went out… Read more »
If the girls took more responsibility in planning the date, paying for it, and keeping the conversation going, they’d have less time to sit and criticize the boys for not being the perfect Prince Charming.
Nu?. Less heartbreak. Let’s go back to go forward I say coz this 21st century methods ain’t working.
This article, although well written and well intended, does no Justice and has no purpose whatsoever on a Jewish site. Let me explain: We are taking about Chassidisher dates, where much is dependent on Basherter! Yes, there are dates which one can classify as odd or awkward. But, for the most part they are civil. Finally, any article has a basic responsibility to understand the outcome of the article. Meaning, after reading the article, what has been accomplished? Has it made our “Shidduch Crisis” easier? Has it encouraged more to date? Is the article, although it may be the truth,… Read more »
Chabad dating is quite different. BH. In Chabad it doesn’t seem like there’s a concept of dating random people that nobody knows.
Revelations of a Burnt- Out Shadchan ….. It’s so hard to please anyone these days!!! Here is a partial list of my clients …. I couldn’t even get them one date, and that is why I am finally quitting and going into the pickle business. Avraham Avinu: How can you recommend him to my daughter? Wasn’t he involved in a family feud with his father over some idols? Then he left home without a GPS or a viable business plan! Yitzchak Avinu: His brother is an Arab terrorist!!! Rivka Imeinu: Sorry, she seems nice but did you hear about her… Read more »
silly article…. extreme situations?
what is meant to be taken out of it? entertainment?
Very entertaining, got a good laugh, #5 got a good point
Of this article?
I also have had a similar experience on a date in January in Montreal where it was 4 degrees Fahrenheit…..and the guy being super cheap thought it was brilliant idea to walk around in the freezing cold…too cheap to go on a mentchlich date and too cheap to get a cab…maybe the single girls should stop being naive and nice….and not give the losers a chance. On the bright side, there are nice guys out there and are considerate, so there is hope. Hatzlacha!
Too funny
Omg im literally in tears of laughter.the guy beeping vigorously ,that takes the cake.O thought ive been through it all .but now I after reading this ,I see theres madness out there.Guys seriously GET IT TOGETHER.
On our first date, he couldn’t find his ticket for the valet parking and couldn’t remember the make, color, or plates of the rental. Humans make mistakes and that is one. Yes, his character is still like that after 10 years of marriage. Humans have mishegasin and issues will constantly come up after marriage. The question is how you deal with them together. One needs to be realistic regarding what s/he personally can or cannot handle.
But if you haven’t met even a single mensch, it makes me wonder about your expectations
So there is 7 stories where the guy screwed up, two where it wasn’t his fault, ONE story where she didn’t act properly (which is not nearly as bad of a story) and 2 stories where it was her father’s mixing in to much, go read the article again and tell me that that’s not one sided.
It’s all syatoh dishmayo there is no mention of marital problems of the great Odom and chavah noach and naamoh Avraham and sorah etc…only a couple of differences…bring in the shidduchim askunim from Willi….
there is another side to the story, which would make it probably understandable. Some examples are valid poor dates and others seem like trivial issues. Noone is perfect!
Some of these stories seem very extreme
Most shidducim are cancelled for trivial reasons
And that is very sad
Today everyone is nitpicking,
We want to know every detail
Enough is enough of this madness…start them off at 20 and 19 and they’ll go to the chupah together.
Perhaps one of the worst written articles I have ever read. Very biased and very one-sided. Some stories seemed a little over the top and exaggerated. I am a guy who has been on a fair share of dates and don’t get me started on horror stories. One of my dates was tripping on Heroin and falling over every other step. There was one time that I had to catch her – because she walked right into a busy intersection in Boro Park and would have surely got hit by a car. Or how about the time I spent $700… Read more »
Is this article supposed to be humorous? Is it to tell us something? It fails on both counts.
And what’s wrong with wearing all grey? Would she have preferred him to be slovenly & mis-matched?
What a waste of my time reading it.
from frum dates. like who know who really anyway. It’s a luck shot – for which we sincerely wish good luck = mazel tov. without good luck how will you end up wit a real mate?
Honestly and sadly I am not surprised by these stories. I once had a date that showed up at my door withought a car saying he wanted to walk around, that wouldn’t have been so bad if it wasn’t below 10 degrees Fahrenheit (I live in Canada). Why are Bochrim so unprepared for a date? There is no excuse And then the Bochrim think it’s so great that they are spending all the money as if they are making a big investment, when the girl is the one getting dressed up for 5 hours before and crying for 2 hours… Read more »
I guess you didn’t read the whole article, because there are stories about girls and their parents who weren’t so nice.
Wow this is all very intense. I did have a date planned but now I’m not so sure. I mean why should I be paying for someone to bring home food from a restaurant on my bill when she wants Is to talk to everyone else. And the weirdest part is her parents own the restaurant so why am I paying for her meal?!
U ddnt read this carefully enuf Bec he did write both sides.sounds like your story is in there,blaming u,oy
Nice that u can look back at these disaster stories with a lighter heart
Sorry, Not sure about those involved though
It should be published into a book
While all the stories are true and prove a point, but I I think this article is not honest and only brings half the horror stories how the men where to blame, I personally know many stories of where it was the girls pure fault, while I’m not excusing any particular man’s behavior but I think it would be more complete to write both sides of the story.