By Rabbi Eli Gutnick, a Chabad sofer stam in Melbourne, Australia, and founder of the International STa”M Forum
I have received a recording from several people over the past few months and I probably should have responded to this earlier. It is indeed disturbing to hear such a distinguished personality in the STa”M world speak with such obvious exaggeration and overt bias against Ksav Chabad.
Ksav Chabad has become a common name for what is known as “Ksav Hameyuches” or “The Alter Rebbe’s ksav.” This is an ornate, older style ksav which originated centuries ago in Russia, and was said to have been taught by the Alter Rebbe himself to his sofer Reb Reuvain. (In this article I refer to this ksav mainly as the “Alter Rebbe’s Ksav”. Chabad also use Ksav Arizal, which is considered more mainstream in the sofrus world.)
The person speaking in the recording is Rabbi Reuvain Mendlowitz. He is a popular American sofer and posek residing in Israel who wrote a very well-received book called “Inside STa”M”, available in both English and Hebrew. On the whole, he seems to be quite a learned and sensible person, and I often refer people to his book. This recording was taken from a talk he gave to a group of Rabbis at Yeshivah University on the topic of “Basics of Hilchos Sta”M For Rabbis.”
VIDEO: From the website YUTorah.org
About 15 minutes into his talk he discusses the concept of the different types of ksav (writing styles) available today. Ksav Beis Yosef is used by Asheknazim/ Litvish, Ksav Arizal is used by Chassidim/Nusach S’fard, Ksav Velish is used by Sephardim, and ksav Chabad (the “Alter Rebbe’s Ksav”) is used by many Lubavitchers. He goes on to explain that it’s better to use a Beis Yosef sefer in a Litvish shul, rather than Arizal or Velish.
This makes perfect sense. In a similar vein, a Chabad Shul, for example, would prefer an Arizal Or Alter Rebbe ksav to a Beis Yosef ksav. It is not their minhag, and likewise a Sephardic shul would want none of the above. A responsible seller of Sifrei Torah, who has customers from different backgrounds, would first need to ask what type of Shul the Sefer is going to. He should then offer options only with the appropriate ksav – for the simple reason that the receiving shul would rather not use something that is not their custom.
However what Rabbi Mendlowitz says next is nothing short of shocking. He says that (unless you are Chabad) the Alter Rebbe ksav is basically not acceptably kosher. He describes the ksav as “spidery” and brings examples of letters that are “extremely problematic”.
What is even more puzzling is that Rabbi Mendlowitz is a long-standing talmid of Rabbi Mordechai Freidlander Z”L of the Vaad Mishmeres Stam. I also received my ordination as a sofer from Rabbi Freidlander and we often discussed the Alter Rebbe’s Kasv (as I have with other mainstream poskim) and no such sentiment was ever expressed. On the contrary, I find that many outside Chabad often marvel at it’s hiddur and aesthetic beauty.
Of course, just like any ksav, the Alter Rebbe Ksav can have problems and shailos. It is a very difficult ksav to write, and should only be written by a mumche (expert). This is why (on average) it is more expensive than other writing styles. There are plenty of competent sofrim in Chabad who can write it in a beautiful and punctilious halachic manner.
Yet, Rabbi Mendlowitz doesn’t say that. He asserts that the ksav is inherently problematic – for anyone outside Chabad. It seems that he is saying that even a top-level Alter Rebbe Ksav would (often) be problematic and the only reason why one could make a bracha on such a sefer Torah is by relying on the leniency of the Rambam. (The Rambam maintains that one may make a brocha (bedieved) on a possul sefer Torah). Furthermore, saying that it’s only kosher for Chabad insinuates that somehow Chabad does not follow Shulchan Aruch – and that Ksav Chabad is based on some odd, unacceptable tradition.
As a matter of fact, The Alter Rebbe ksav is almost identical to the typical Russian ksav that was written by everybody in the times of the Alter Rebbe (and even much later). This is well established, and even today, many used Torah vendors attempt to sell old Russian Arizal sifrei Torah as “The Alter Rebbe Ksav” because it is practically the same. (It is accepted that certain small nuances were specified by the Alter Rebbe to his sofer Reb Reuvain, but these are not what Mendlowitz is concerned about).
Moreover, many of the Beis Yosef Ashkenaz STa”M being written at that time had a similar style, not just in Russia but all over Europe. The most noticeable differences between the Alter Rebbe Ksav and the mainstream style of ksav today are the pay, shin, beis, as well as the pointy “diamond” shaped style of the “feet”, and overall ornate, thick style of lettering. This was all considered mainstream – up until the early part of the last century. While the style of today’s Alter Rebbe beis was common for centuries in Ksav Arizal, particularly in Russia, it was also prevalent in older Ashkenazic STa”M from in Germany 400 plus years ago.
Would Rabbi Mendlowitz say that all the tefillin, mezuzos and Sifrei Torah written in those days and used by vast segments of Klal Yisroel, (including great tzadikim and gedolim) are also a problem?!?
Perhaps we should look at the two examples he mentions that he considers being “extremely problematic letters”, namely the yud and the beis (the beis being the “biggest problem”). I apologize if these paragraphs get a bit technical , but I will explain as best as I can. Let’s look at what he says:
Regarding the yud he says “Very often the kotzoi shel yud will be going to the left instead of going down”, sometimes the kotz on top of the yud will be going in wacky directions and sometimes can be very tall, and sometimes the regel will be very short.” I’m not going to get into the technicalities of all this because I don’t think he is implying that these are so problematic, only a little different to how the yud is normally written today. Furthermore, I rarely see the kotzo shel yud going completely sideways (if usually goes both down and out which is no problem whatsoever). Nor have I ever seen a yud with a foot so short that it is considered a problem.
With regards to his complaint of the “tall, wacky kotz on top”, most Alter Rebbe sofrim simply do not make the kotz “tall and wacky”, and even if they do make it a bit taller than usual, it is rarely a halachic problem, only a nuance which is slightly different to the typical yud in other writing styles.
Now let’s look at what he says about the beis, which he says is the “biggest problem”.
We all know that the main difference between a chof and a beis, is that a chof is round on the lower right side, and a beis has a (square) “eikev” or “okev” (heel) that protrudes out of the lower right side. In the Alter Rebbe Ksav, this is an eikev “ov” – a thick heel, which is thicker (taller) than the regular eikev written today, and is slightly angular. (Many consider this to be the original eikev ov mentioned in the Alpha Beita, which explains its popularity in centuries gone by.)
Yet even in Ksav Chabad, this “eikev” is supposed to protrude clearly and has sharp corners. As said previously, this is how virtually all the Russian sofrim wrote the letter beis in that time, (and even older Ksav Beis Yosef originating from Ashkenaz as far back as 400 plus years ago had a similar “eikev ov”). Below is a picture of a random Alter Rebbe beis that I cropped from a standard set of Alter Rebbe parshiyos I had handy.
Rabbi Mendlowitz correctly says that in Ksav Chabad this eikev is thick, as explained above. But then he says “very often mamash looks like chof, it is indistinguishable to a chof”. Now if a beis presents as a chof (or is indistinguishable to a chof), it is outright possul! No one would argue with that, Chabad or otherwise. It would be possul according the Shulchan Aruch Harav, the same way it would be possul according to the Mishnah Berurah. Does he really believe that professional, ordained sofrim in Chabad are writing letters which are not kosher according to Shulchan Aruch?
Sometimes, in poorly written ksav Alter Rebbe, the eikev can be a bit round-ish. But it still has a pronounced eikev and is still kosher. Of course this is not ideal and it’s not how one is supposed to lechatchilah write a beis according to the Alter Rebbe. But are these really indistinguishable to a chof?? It almost always will still be considered an eikev, and even if somewhat rounded, it will still pass as a kosher beis.
This leads me to my next point. In every ksav you have sofrim who write more perfectly and and sofrim who write more poorly. And then, sadly, you have sofrim that write so poorly and they misform letters so badly, it is hard to pass their writing as kosher. This happens in all styles of writing, be it Beis Yosef, Velish, Arizal and yes, even Chabad. Over the years I have put many Beis Yosef Mezuzos and Tefillin into genizah because the writing is so poor I could not pass it as kosher. Does this mean Beis Yosef Ksav is a problematic ksav in general?!? And that one can only make a bracha on a Beis Yosef sefer Torah because the Rambam allows one to make a bracha on a Possul sefer Torah?!? Of course not!
In conclusion, Rabbi Mendlowitz is not the first one to pick on the Alter Rebbe’s ksav, and probably won’t be the last. I think it is time for the official Safrus establishment to come out once and for all to put these misconceptions to rest. The Alter Rebbe ksav is a beautiful, halchadik and unique ksav with a strong tradition dating back hundreds of years.

Oy! I guess I’ll only use Chabad around the world for food. Will have to refuse an Aliyah.
I can’t tell if this is sarcastic. If it isn’t then why would you trust the food. I am sure there is also an ignorant rov you can find to call that treif. But… I guess you can call on a snag to host you in hoopitzville. Oh wait….
As not a single of our “Rabonim” spoke up when a “Chabad” individual (back by his “Chabad Mashpia” from Cincinnati) falsely accused and slandered tens of our local senior and expert Chabad Sofrim.
Then what’s the wonder that someone from the outside can do the same and even better.
The individual involved in the “Mezuzagate” from Chicago was pointing out flaws which are universally problematic. It doesn’t matter if you are Chabad, Litvish or Sefardi, things like touching letters are problematic by everyone and he was alleging that they weren’t being checked properly.
Here on the other hand, the guy seems to be saying that Chabad script is inherently problematic, no matter how well you write it and no matter how well you check it.
Big Difference.
They both criticized and pointing out issues which are not necessarily an issue according to the OUR Poskim Alter rebbi Tzemach Tzedek, and the way Lubavhich veteran Sofrim wrote and treated STa”M since.
Thank you rabbi Gutnik for taking a stand
Even though this is one rabbi at one shiur, the fact is that the Alter Rebbe ksav gets criticism outside Chabad from rabbis and poskim who should know better.
Mitzvah lefarsem, and to set the record straight once and for all….
How can one be so simple to think it is ok to go ahead and say this as a ruling ,besides playing with fire ,it is simply not normal (unless you come from certain backgrounds) to speak with such brazenness and generality about an eida kedosha.
This man needs to fly to haditch to ask mechila from the Alter Rebbe
Mamosh a rachmonus on someone who thinks he can ask questions on the alter rebbe
“and was said to have been taught by the Alter Rebbe himself to his sofer Reb Reuvain.”
emphasis on ‘And was said’ we dont know for sure
I have given balebatim in my community alter rebbe tefillin and then they go off to Israel and are told by typical non chabad sofrim that they are problematic. Most shluchim have no clue how to respond. This is very educational. Thank you!
As soon as I heard him say I don’t want to get into politics I know there’s something buried over here and had it not been For other issues Etc he would not have felt the freedom to express this interesting views.
Thank you Rabbi gutnik for the good article.
Please Rabbi be the one that takes care of this .start by calling yeshiva university and ask for answering those false allegations.
Hatzlocho
as a 20 year baal teshuva I feel that issues like this are ridiculous , promotes division and ill feelings amongst yidden
Schwabinger, did you go to Georgen Shul?
Thank you Rabbi Eli Gutnick for your thorough and comprehensive responsa, and for rightfully and justifiably defending the ‘Alter’ Rebbe’s honor and dignity in such an articulate and dignified manner.
The Rebbe would start letters to these kind of people with: מסופקני האם לענות על שאלותיו כיון שכנראה רק בא לקנתר אבל אעמידו בחזקת כשרות. This person isn’t even asking, he’s simply attacking and “passeling” The Alter Rebbe, Rebbe Maharash (who was a sofer and wrote obviously with Ksav Chabad) and the other five Rebbeim. Plus thousands of Jews and Sofrim for tens of years with a zilzul that is not worthy of being answered. The Russian (not only Chabad) way of making a beis is not lechatchila?? This is a posek of Stam worthy of recognition? By the way… Read more »
Thank you Rabbi Gutnick for this well written and informative article.
Thank you.
Some Lubavitcher Rabonim have reservations about Alter Rebbe ksav. R’ Landau made his Sofrim change the back of the Bais so it’s clearly not a Chof. Also, there’s an issue of lack of Mesorah Ish M’pi ish. V’yesh lharich.
Correct that’s a result of a Rabbi living in Bnei Brak…
there are sofrim out there that aren’t experienced enough and write the alter rebbe’s ksav with errors that make shailos. For example the left yerech of the ches if not done correctly can make it look like a tov etc.
Thank you Rabbi Gutnick for your clear & elaquente explaination!
to put it simply he should be carefull the way he speaks about the alter rebbe in general i hope he thinks again on what he said it was very unrespectfull.
I was trained by an expert Bobover sofer. He demonstrated that the Chabad k’sav is essentially Arizal but its appearance is due to the cut of the pen – creating a curved edge. This was done mainly by Russian sofrim and I have seen a Beis Yosef sefer Torah that at first glance looked like it was Chabad. The thick heel of the beis is in accordance with the Si’ach Sofer where all the differences between Beis Yosef and Arizal are listed. Many years ago, I was shown parshios from the time if the Tzemach Tzedek and the strokes had… Read more »
Rabbi Gutnick truly is a leader in this industry!
If you claim tefillin or mezuzos are not kosher cause they are admz….than you get to sell a new pair of tefillin as well as sell the old kosher one again.
here is a link to a bais yosef sefer torah with the alter rebbe”s letter beis
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144251415545?hash=item21960debf9:g:-xoAAOSwDTFhHwfz
We actually have in our shul where I live a older Sefaradi Sefer Torah that I noticed has a very similar ekev to the Alter Rebbe Beis.
The described Beis with a “Thick heel” is the way it is and was in “Ksav ArizaI”.
How nowadays do “Sofrim” and “Sochrim” sell Sta”m with a different Beis shape calling it “Arizal”, when in fact this Beis is adopted in Isreal about 150 years ago???
An expert Sofer brought to my attention that the Mishneh Brura claims that the letter פ written in Stam for generations universally is a פ שבורה and makes up his own style of a פ
This expert Sofer also informed me that according to the Alter Rebbe in Hilchos Teffillin סי’ ל”ב סעי’ נ”ב בסופה all Teffilin written by all Sofrim (including this Sofer who mocks Chabad Ksav) are posul bedieved פסול בדיעבד! only
Chabad Sofrim write them correctly like the Alter Rebbe.
Conclusion: one must follow with the Alter Rebbe and not deviate an iota from his holy rulings.
Rabbi yakov zilberman was an expert sofer in Montreal who knew a lot about this topic.Much can be written about this man.
He wrote a sefer on the alter rebbe’s hilchos sta”m which was finally published about a year ago, 30 years after his passing. Kehot sells it.
https://store.kehotonline.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HAR-CHIDS
He discusses the alter rebbe’s ksav at length.
But guess what?
He writes there things that almost all Chabad veteran Sofrim say however Rabbi Gutnik himself and his fellow “Today’s modern Sochrim and Sofrim” don’t like it!!!
For example:
The heel of the Beis is perfectly okay and might even be intentionally rounded on the bottom right!
The YUD does not necessarily have to have the Kotz protruding down and square is perfectly Kosher!
But the Rabbi Gutnik when trying to stick up for his “Alter Rebbe’s Ksav”, (possibly unintentionally) slanders the traditional Lubavhich Ksav!!
Look for yourself….
I have read this 3 times snd I have no idea what you are trying to say….
1) how come anyone even slightly criticizes chabad we go into super victim mode? So he doesn’t like us, who cares? 2) even within chabad so from there are many who will claim that such and such other chabad so from are doing it wrong. So the alter rebbes ksav being complicated is nothing new. 3) he was very respectful. He said it’s a beautiful ksav. That it’s an issue for NON chabad people. The same way chabad people don’t rely on the OU for kashering because we have a different halachik opinion. Litvish Ashkanazim have a different halachik opinion… Read more »
I had Alte rebbe ksav in my Tefillin and R.Marlow ah, didn’t like the ksav. I switched to Ari zl.
This Rabbi is just keeping the Mesorah he received where he grew up which is to bash Chabad. It’s been going on for a long time and won’t end anytime soon. Chabad is very successful and public and is an easy target. Yiddishkeit is fading in Y.U. where Yiddishkeit is taught in a way to blend with the goyim. Yiddishkeit is flourishing in Chabad and they are jealous of how proud we are to be yidden. In Y.U. they teach that you don’t really need to wear a yarmulke, and other such leniencies. You can barely tell a Y.U. bochur… Read more »