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‘Rebbe’s Becher’ Up for Auction

A silver kiddush cup claimed to have been used by the Rebbe will be put up for public auction next week in Jerusalem. Full Story

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Was at fabrenguns with the Rebbe
April 16, 2018 8:02 pm

A zchus for sure! But this was NOT the Rebbes becher…not even close

Bomb
April 16, 2018 7:59 pm

Suppose this item is real. Why would anyone buy it? Remember what the Rebbe said about the seforim. Anyone who keeps this in his home is keeping a live bomb at home.

interesting!
April 16, 2018 5:36 pm

How do we know this is the becher that is up for sale?
This may be a different cup???
Also people shouldn’t be surprised ; they stole everything else.

Flashback
April 16, 2018 4:32 pm

Somehow this reminds me of a sicha said by the Rebbe during the the time of the courtcases of Hey Teves. The Rebbe mentioned that the belongings of the Frierdiker Rebbe do not belong in people’s houses and stressed that it’s like a bomb, very unsafe, for people to own them.
My question is if it applies here.
Do we have a right to owning the Rebbe’s belongings?

Think Not
April 16, 2018 11:23 am

I have a friend in Israel who recently received a “Rebbe Dollar” from someone who was in 770. I took a look and it was a series 2007 dollar. Interesting trick. I’m guessing (just a guess) this becher was used as “kos shel brocha” the same way the dollar was “given by the Rebbe.” Extremely distasteful if not.

"Seforim Yochichu....
April 16, 2018 9:58 am

If the Rebbe showed that a safer or chefetz belonging to the Freideker Rebbe was not up for sale etc…how can we sell an inyan that belonged to the Rebbe…its all Kodesh Kodoshim…and its Meilah Bahekdesh…!!!

what??
April 16, 2018 9:34 am

If the Rebbe used it, it doesnt seem appropriate to auction it of for money. Its a disgrace. Its completely disrespectful, the same way you wouldn’t sell the Rebbe’s microphone, how much more so the rebbe’s becher. Its something way too special to be auctioned offto someone random, it should be kept where all the Rebbe’s things are kept. Maybe let people see it from time to time, but auctioning it off is completely disrespectful.

to #25
April 16, 2018 9:07 am

First of all, why the all-caps?
Second of all, what is “ghezer”? Is that “gezhe”?
Third of all, what in the world does gezhe or not gezhe have to do with this auction? We don’t even know how this item made it to auction. How are you presuming to know the family history of the one who brought it there?

Common sence
April 16, 2018 8:24 am

BH,
From the picture one can see the the flower design has been pressed in a way that the inner part is indented, which I have heard is not a הידור when the inner surface is not totally smooth. Did anyone else year and this too? So how can this be a becher of The Rebbe, which has such a defect?

# 4
April 16, 2018 8:18 am

BS”D to # 23,What aspect in # 4 is disrespectful

Naive
April 16, 2018 2:01 am

People can be so, so naïve. If the auction house can’t produce a certificate of authenticity signed by a reputable individual, who would actually know if the Rebbe used this becher, then anyone who bids for it should have his/her head examined.
People have bought replicas of the Rebbe’s becher for under $50

MRS PERL ARBOR
April 16, 2018 12:51 am

WHICH MEMBER OF AGUCH OR MAZKIRUS MISAPPROPRIATED THIS BECHER, TO SELL IT FOR THEIR ILL GOTTEN GAINS
DISGRACE!
ANYTHING THE REBBE TOUCHED OR USED SHOULD REMAIN IN THE MUSEUM FOR THE CHASSIDIM TO ENJOY, NOT FOR GHEZER AGGRANDIZEMENT

Fake news.
April 15, 2018 11:57 pm

This auction is looking like its gonna be great.

To #4
April 15, 2018 11:34 pm

Highly inappropriate and disrespectful to the Rebbe.

"wise man be careful ..."
April 15, 2018 11:13 pm

Any one can replicate BOTH RYK signature as well Becher, and the Candelabras etc.

Fake but even so
April 15, 2018 11:00 pm

Doesn’t look like the Rebbes becher. But let’s just say it was, what is it doing up for auction? Should be in aguch library not in some rich (poilisher or tinuk shenishbas) private property. Highly inappropriate!

25k
April 15, 2018 10:55 pm

will go up to 25 k or 30 k

Lets BUY IT!
April 15, 2018 10:54 pm

we should buy it
but its not gonna go for a very high price because people know that the Rebbe used it just in somme occasions like many other ones
Rabbi Groner and Rabbi Krinsky should enlight us with the different bechers used by the Rebbe

#13
April 15, 2018 10:26 pm

There is not a levi Galperin

Not the rebbes becher
April 15, 2018 10:13 pm

At most the rebbe touched once for a lechaim
Like the tehilim they used to place on rebbes Bima,
The rebbes used it but wasn’t the “rebbes” tehilim

" AUTHENTICITY # 2 "
April 15, 2018 10:12 pm

P.S. TO MY EARLIER COMMENT, THE BECHER PICTURED IS AN ISRAELI SILVERPLATED BECHER OF WHICH THESE WERE NOT MANUFACTURED UNTIL THE MID 1970’S OR EVEN LATER. THE STERLING SILVER BECHERS THAT R’ BEREL JUNIK BOUGHT COST AT THAT TIME 5.00 SO IT DIDNT EVEN PAY TO MAKE SILVERPLATE AT THAT TIME. SINCE THE REBBE USED THE STERLING BECHERS FROM THE MID 60″S AND ON , AND THE SILVERPLATED WERE NOT EVEN IN EXISTENCE AT THAT TIME OR EARLIER, IT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND AS WHY SOMEONE WOULD “AUTHENTICATE” THIS BECHER AS BEING USED FOR KOS SHEL BROCHO. S.D.

Fake news
April 15, 2018 10:03 pm

המזכיר רק העיד שהרבי השתמש זה. לא אמר לברכת המזון, קידוש או כוס של ברכה!!! לא אמר ב770!! ומאיפה הוא יודע מה הרבי השתמש בבית. המזכירים לא נכנסו שם בדרך כלל. זהו המציאות. 
ועוד, אומרים שהרבנית נתנה זה במתנה ל… וכו’ הגביעים של 770 שהרבי עשה קידוש, הבדלה וכוס של ברכה לא היו ולא בא מהבבית משום שהכלים שהשתמשו על השלחן הק’ היה שייך לאיש שסידר השולחן כל השנים וכו’.
חלום שחלמו וכו’

" AUTHENTICITY"
April 15, 2018 10:03 pm

“IF” THE REBBE USED THIS BECHER IT WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE IN THE YUDS OR EARLY CHOF’S. FROM THE MID CHOFS AND ON IT IS DEFINITIVE FACT THAT THE REBBE USED A STERLING BECHER MANUFACTURED BY EASTERN SILVER CO. DURING THE YEAR THE REBBE USED EASTERN’S # 5 BECHER AND FOR PESACH THE REBBE USED EASTERN’S # 4 BECHER, WHICH WAS SLIGHTLY SMALLER. R’ BEREL JUNIK A’H WOULD PURCHASE A NEW ONE EVERY FEW YEARS, USUALLY WHEN THE GILTING ON THE INSIDE OF THE BECHER WORE AWAY. THE PREFERENCE WAS ONE WITHOUT THE MOGEN DOVID DESIGN, BUT THERE WERE… Read more »

This is definitely not the becher used at the farbrengen
April 15, 2018 9:53 pm

It is highly inappropriate for the auction house onto claim that the Rebbe used it for kos shel brocho. It seems to be their main selling point. But it is just not so.

If it is from Mrs. Galperin, then it’s clearly from the Rebbe’s house. Maybe it was used by guests. Is there a Levi Galperin??

This picture
April 15, 2018 9:51 pm

Where can I find the original of this picture and make a copy?

Opportunity
April 15, 2018 9:49 pm

A great opportunity for someone to be able to have something the Rebbe used in his property. What a zchus.

Zoom in!!
April 15, 2018 9:46 pm

It says Levi on it

🤔 Hmm...
April 15, 2018 9:45 pm

Why is the name Levi engraved in the Becher?

not the rebbes becher
April 15, 2018 9:44 pm

this does not look like the rebbes becher!!!

To #1
April 15, 2018 9:35 pm

Reb Berel Y.. Baught the bechers for the Rebbe. The one pictured is NOT the one used By the Rebbe at farbraingen…..
There were a few of them.
However They were exactly the same design.

Please....
April 15, 2018 9:34 pm

The word CLAIMED in emphasis.

Levy
April 15, 2018 9:32 pm

Where is Aguch?

Anonymous
April 15, 2018 9:31 pm

BS”D Sounds fishy,how would it get to private ownership, wonder what a glass the Rebbe drank tea from is worth or a towel used by the Rebbe from the Union Street Mikvah

doesn't feel right
April 15, 2018 9:30 pm

I’m very uncomfortable with this and I wonder if others feel the same. Is it just me?

Fake news
April 15, 2018 9:29 pm

I would be very suspicious

Rabbi Krinsky cannot authenticate this for sure

It is silver plated

It was given to Mrs Galperin

The name levy is inscribed in it

Terrible
April 15, 2018 9:26 pm

disgrace!!!! The Rebbe’s proprty is not for sale.

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