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Rabbi Braun’s Scathing Speech on Attack on Yeshivahs

Worse than serving not kosher food in schools: Rabbi Yosef Braun, member of the Crown Heights Beis Din, spoke out sharply against the attack on Chassidic Yeshiva education by the New York Times and State Board of Regents, in a speech at 770 Eastern Parkway. Video

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what's the point
September 15, 2022 11:26 pm

Putting aside whether or not in fact including klipas nogah secular subjects aligned with dinah dimalchusa is worse than non kosher food, in what way could a speech in 770 have any effect on the law that has been passed? why not speak about things that the attendees can use in their avodas hashem?

That’s the Point
Reply to  what's the point
September 16, 2022 8:40 am

Did you actually bother listening till the end?
So much has been said that the attendees can use in their Avodas Hashem.
And yes there is a point in taking about this in 770. Did the Rebbe not speak for hours in 770 about laws that have been passed?

That was his speech
Reply to  what's the point
September 16, 2022 8:42 am

After adressesing the issue, he then said that we need to make our houses like Tomchei Temimim, and bring in more purity, while pushing out all negativity and impurity

The Rebbe gave many speeches in 770…
Reply to  what's the point
September 16, 2022 8:54 am

Those speeches were in yiddish and changed the world.

Probably listen before commenting
Reply to  what's the point
September 16, 2022 9:10 am

He covered that; consider listening to the video before commenting.

You obviously didn’t watch the full thing
Reply to  what's the point
September 16, 2022 9:38 am

He precisely spoke to the “attendees” during the second half of the video, telling them what their “avoda” is

Did you listen to the speech
Reply to  what's the point
September 16, 2022 10:38 am

If you listened until the end you would not have asked your question.

What?
Reply to  what's the point
September 16, 2022 11:30 am

Dude Dina demalchusah applies only to monetary things and a few more rules….
(And if you say Dina demalchusah then you can say that throughout history like inquisition….)

Dina demalchusa
Reply to  what's the point
September 16, 2022 11:33 am

Dina demalchusa has absolutely no grounds
When not aligned with Torah.
You took a halocho in torah, and using it against torah.
Looks like you don’t know any torah, or even history..
Just btw,
We send our kids to school to learn torah.
Not to get more of klipas noga.
Look at the public schools,
they learn lots of klipas noga, and we see
How well they are doing in 3 klipos hatmeos.

HUH ?
Reply to  what's the point
September 16, 2022 11:35 am

you really have me scratching my head. dinah dimalchusa is a concept in monetary laws, so its as applicable here as the prohibition against damaging property etc., no connection whatsoever. you’re point about “klipas noga” is also a misconception as we are dealing with one who is able to study torah (this differentiation is clear if you study tanya ch 8 properly, togue this isn’t the proper forum for that lesion lol) and to you’re point – your a contradiction. first you question the content of the speech, then you question its necessity!!. so first and foremost its relevant for… Read more »

Nice one!!!
September 15, 2022 11:31 pm

This is what everyone needs to hear!! The Rabbeim risked their lives for Chinuch Al Taharas Hakodesh who would be so foolish as to allow this to happen!

On point!!
September 15, 2022 11:32 pm

Such true and powerful words! We are lucky to have a Rav who speaks the truth clearly and outright!

We will survive
September 15, 2022 11:36 pm

We survived Paroh, we survived Tzar & Stalin regime – we will survive this too BH –
HaShem will help us!

You Grasp at Straws out of Bad Chinuch!
Reply to  We will survive
September 23, 2022 10:42 am

Tzar? Stalin? We live in a medina shel CHESED.
We are dor shvi’i. Our avoda now is to stop the chilul hashem — now B’FARHESYA — of cheating our kids of a future outside of shlichus/chinuch.

Government doesn’t want us Pru&Rvu Mitzvah
September 15, 2022 11:40 pm

We are too family oriented and they don’t like it… they want to limit our population by brainwashing with public system education that dosent support family but Individual that are child free ….
They not anti religious

Ad Mosiy
Reply to  Government doesn’t want us Pru&Rvu Mitzvah
September 16, 2022 3:50 pm

This is textbook Democrat rhetoric, to divide and conquer just like Paroh many others after him tried to do.

Its good to see some passion
September 15, 2022 11:58 pm

Its nice to see some passion finally. Its great to see people stand up for themselves and not be pushed around by arrogant, self-righteous, oppressive hypocritical bureaucrats. These “Jewish” groups and “activists” who channel their pain and traumas into coercive campaigns against communities they don’t like, care about, or honestly truly understand are exhausting. They’re not willing (nor are capable) to think the problem through, understand the complexities of the community, and factor in the larger societal implications of what Chassidic Jews are for. They likely don’t believe there can or should be a pure and righteous people – which… Read more »

Amazing
September 16, 2022 3:41 am

Laying down the gauntlet

Excellent
September 16, 2022 3:43 am

Thank you for giving us chizuk!

Round of applause
September 16, 2022 5:59 am

My son probably out surpasses the kids across the street in public school with reading and math. However, I don’t want their leftist propaganda! I can teach my kid secular at home. Secondly, I asked the same thing on a FB feed of a Lubavitcher woman who supported the new NY legislation passed against our schools: Do our children not deserve to eat or have bussing to school?

Fix it
September 16, 2022 6:16 am

Fix the education system and then there won’t be a need to defend it

Mendy M
September 16, 2022 6:37 am

B”H Rabbi Braun is speaking truth to power! Too long the NY system has been trying to the the smart phones and all this drek into our beloved schools or no funding. It’s not enough that they corrupt and mismanage the public system, now they want to do it to our schools too.

Shimmy K
Reply to  Mendy M
September 17, 2022 1:35 pm

Preach brother! Their so-called “schools” are breeding grounds of radicalism, free love, and occult evils. Our children grow up ehrlich and free from the taint of demonic sin. Forget the three Rs of reading, writing, and arithmetic — my three Rs are Rashi, the Rambam, and the Rebbe!!

Shimmy K
September 16, 2022 6:55 am

When the goyim mock our education but we learned about magnetohydrodynamics from Professor Branover in middle school and they were learning that people come from monkeys. What a shandeh.

BS .
Reply to  Shimmy K
September 16, 2022 9:38 am

Give me a break. u know nothing abt magnetohydrodynamics

 

Shimmy K
Reply to  BS .
September 18, 2022 8:33 am

Of course I do! Here’s a quick summary of my thoughts on the matter:

Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD; also called magneto-fluid dynamics or hydro­magnetics) is the study of the magnetic properties and behaviour of electrically conducting fluids.[1] Examples of such magneto­fluids include plasmasliquid metalssalt water, and electrolytes.[2] 

GO SHIMMY!
Reply to  Shimmy K
September 23, 2022 10:49 am

The things we know through chassidus and istakel b’oraysa uvara alma! Any OT graduate can go to MIT if they wanted.

excellent
September 16, 2022 8:01 am

very well said

What does crime have to do with it?
September 16, 2022 8:11 am

Imagine equating getting an education to committing crime.

If the moral and ethical standards were legitimately that high in Crown Heights, nobody would be worried about teaching kids to read and write.

The fact that the people who commit crime went to public school has nothing to do with the fact that they learned math. If it did, all the girls in Crown Heights would be criminals.

Missed the point.
Reply to  What does crime have to do with it?
September 16, 2022 10:18 am

It’s not because they learnt math that they’re criminals, rather that there is more to education then Academics.

Helpful tip
Reply to  Missed the point.
September 16, 2022 11:44 am

“…there is more to education than Academics.”

Than, not then.

🙂

Grammarly
Reply to  Helpful tip
September 16, 2022 3:02 pm

Use that and you won’t need to worry about grammar mistakes again.

Or...
Reply to  Grammarly
September 19, 2022 11:15 am

Educate yourself and read a book every now and then, and you could fix your grammar mistakes all by yourself like a real adult!

“Wet streets cause rain”
Reply to  What does crime have to do with it?
September 16, 2022 10:22 am

Your post is an example of confusing cause and effect (like in my caption above). No one is claiming that studying math causes crime. It’s rather that the criminals have studied math and obviously it hasn’t changed their behavior, so the notion that we need math in our schools to reach the public schools’ standards is nonsense on stilts. On the contrary, their standards need to be brought up to ours.

The Rebbe’s thoughts on college.
Reply to  “Wet streets cause rain”
September 16, 2022 11:49 am

The rebbe was against the idea that someone needs to go to college to become a mentsch.

In reality, learning math and English has nothing to do with ethics or morals. So the argument that public schools need to be brought up to our ethical standards is irrelevant.

Learning basic subjects is a quality of life issue. If they stopped teaching it to girls, there would be outrage.

Nobody has the right to permanently reduce the quality of life of these kids.

Serious confusion in your post
Reply to  The Rebbe’s thoughts on college.
September 17, 2022 8:59 pm

You start out sensibly, but then go completely off the rails.

Indeed, the Rebbe said that you don’t need to go to college to be a mentsch. But he also pointed out that all the education in the world, if devoid of G-d and of morality, is worthless, as seen with pre-WWII Germany.

So yes, the public schools most certainly need to be brought up to our moral and ethical standards. As for your argument about “quality of life,” look at the sicha of Simchas Torah 5715.

Great!
September 16, 2022 9:30 am

It’s so great to see a Rav standing up for what’s right, and not being afraid to speak truth. Thank you Rabbi Braun.

JAX
September 16, 2022 12:50 pm

All the talking in the background makes it hard to hear him.

JAX
Reply to  JAX
September 18, 2022 8:37 am

Oh wait, I just realized the background noise was on my end haha the neighbors are making a bas mitzva for their granddaughter. My bad.

Fascinating!
September 16, 2022 5:57 pm

Why don’t we as a community call upon our so-called “” Askonim” who endorsed the person who could have stopped these guidelines form from being imposed upon us in the Primary a few months ago?

Why are we voting democrat
September 17, 2022 7:16 pm

Community council pushed everyone to vote democrat for years. This is the result of voting democrat

rov speech
September 18, 2022 2:58 am

An excellent speech. He is very knowledgable on the issues, and spoke straight to the point.

MORE LIKE RABBI BRAWN
September 18, 2022 8:48 am

LISTNNG 2 RABI BRAUN GAVE ME SO MUCH CHIZUK. I RED THE NYT ARTICL AND IT MADE ME FEEL BAD ABOUT MYSELF LIKE MAYB I DIDNT GIVE MY KID SECULAR AND NOW THATS WHY THEY HAVE A HARD TIME WIT JOBS AND PARNUSA BUT ACTULY LIKE RABBI BRAUN SAID OUR EDUCATION IS QUALITY AND THE BESHEFR PROVIDES AND ACSUALY IN GEMARA WE HAVE MATH AND SCIENSE AND EVERYTING WHAT A PERSON NEEDS TO BE MATZLIACH SO SHKOYCH RABBI BRAWN KEEP STRONG WE ARE NOT RESPONSBL FOR POVRTY IN THE KHILAH THAT IS MISLEADNG WE HAVE TREMENDUS KOYACH AND EMUNA AND… Read more »

tongue in cheek
Reply to  MORE LIKE RABBI BRAWN
September 18, 2022 1:31 pm

Very well placed intentional spelling errors=Cute

Chezky Pomerantz
September 18, 2022 10:13 am

Yo my name is Chezky P And I’m hear to say I support Chassidishe education In an unironic way I’m tired of your math And your liberal opinion I wanted avoydes hashem And tefilla with a minyan Don’t talk about grades When they ain’t got middes My kid’s an illui In niglah and chassidus I’m tired of your talk About gelt ‘n parnassah Mo money mo problems I mean Mas Hachnasa You come in my school With your ****** and your *******, Take a look at yourself, You think you know any better? I know what you teach, Pritzus, Hefker… Read more »

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