ב"ה
Friday, 13 Sivan, 5780
  |  June 5, 2020

Live:

Police Write Late Note to Yeshiva

A Chabad bochur showing up late to his Yeshiva had the most solid letter of excuse - it was written by the police department. Full Story

Wolf & Lamb Hosts Winemaker

Next Story »

Music Stars Join for Yitzi’s Song

45
Opinions and Comments

To keep track of your comments, follow a conversation or flag a comment Login
avatar
  Subscribe  
newest oldest most voted
Notify of
mashgiach
Guest
mashgiach

the rebbe would not be happy, the rebbe always said mivtzoim cant come on the time of seder

wow
Guest
wow

That made me cry.

Love it!!
Guest
Love it!!

this is great!

To number 1
Guest
To number 1

He wanted to be back and planned to be back. The police requested he stay, obviously Hashem had a different plan:)

I'm crying from Nachas and Joy!
Guest
I'm crying from Nachas and Joy!

This makes me proud to be a fellow chossid!

the best and ONLY good reason to be held by the police!

Ah Mechaya!!

Interesting
Guest
Interesting

I never knew there was a chabad yeshiva in natzeret illit.

mashgiach
Guest
mashgiach

he rebbe would be very happy that the bachur go’s in his break on mivtzim (in sted of doing oter things) locally (no trein ride) like the rebbe always wanted from bachurim. actually the qwote is when the bachurim sent in a duch that they went on mivtzim like the rebbe sed. the rebbe responded that mivtzoim is for “baali batim” which work and do mivtzaim. but for bachurim it is only if it is NOT on the chesbon of seder but from there break time which they can leav at 2:15 go to the local places and come back… Read more »

Excuse me #1
Guest
Excuse me #1

Who are you to say what the rebbe would feel or say!? I don’t think he does it every day! Seems to me for that day in particular he stayed a bit longer… doing something wonderful!
Let me ask you Mr. Maivin, What would you say, if one of those police officers came forward some time in the future, and said it was because of that bochur, that day, that he is frum today!?

Stop pulling the rebbe card! It’s because of mashgichim like you that so many Buchrim don’t care to be chassidish.

#1 - get with the times!
Guest
#1 - get with the times!

Coming late is not something this bochur does on a daily basis. Had he not thought twice about it, he would not have asked for the letter to present to his hanhala.
I hope you’re not the “mashgiach” in any of my sons’ Yeshivos. Furthermore, YOU do NOT know that this particular incident would not have made the Rebbe happy.

kiddush hashem!!
Guest
kiddush hashem!!

Beutiful story,not on the cheshnon of seder though!

To. Mashgiach
Guest
To. Mashgiach

The job of the mashgiach is to demand that the bochur goes to seder on time. The job of the Jewish policeman is to demand that he teaches them

Shocked at number one
Guest
Shocked at number one

To number one ..
This letter doesn’t come every day the bochir wanted to go back on time they were yearning for more learning!
Of course the rebbe would be happy what’s yeshiva about if not for this… He was doing a good thing ! Why negativity ? A true mashgiach would be proud!!! You would probably punish him and it would be another boy off the derech! Of course there’s Seder but there’s exceptions sometimes in life…..

cold winter
Guest
cold winter

To number 1 you don’t belong in chinuch as you fail to bring out the best in our boys

OVER SEAS
Guest
OVER SEAS

if he has reshus from his hanholo

stam
Guest
stam

The Rebbe’s opinion is clear, mivtzoim and peulos of the sort are clearly secondary to seder and cannot come at an expense of seder without clear advance permission from hanholo, the fact that this bocher stayed behind without advance reshus is against the rotzon of the Rebbe, the bocher had no right to stay and then afterwards bring the best excuse, he may get off a knas but don’t kid yourself that this is what the Rebbe wants. “Let me ask you Mr. Maivin, What would you say, if one of those police officers came forward some time in the… Read more »

Wow!
Guest
Wow!

Beyond heartwarming!!! What a beautiful letter!!! Yay Chabad bochur, keep up the great work Shneur Hatzaddik!

Number #1 might actually be right.
Guest
Number #1 might actually be right.

“to Schneur’s credit, he wanted to leave at 15:15 to return to the Yeshiva but was asked by us to remain”
Seder is seder!

To #8 Kol Hakavod
Guest
To #8 Kol Hakavod

You said exactly what me and my friends say.
Thank you

Mashgiach
Guest
Mashgiach

Dear Mashgiach,

What are you doing browsing COLLIVE?

To #8 Kol Hakavod
Guest
To #8 Kol Hakavod

You said exactly what me and my friends say.
Thank you

To #1
Guest
To #1

The letter says “he wanted to leave but they would not let him as they had one more tefillin to put on”. It was not during seder it was during lunch break, but there was a delay.

Number 15
Guest
Number 15

Emes veyatziv

Good bochur
Guest
Good bochur

It must have taken time to write that excuse letter out:)
Cute story

To Number Fifteen
Guest
To Number Fifteen

That was very long, all you wrote. You could have summed all that up into one sentence:

“If a bochur is not absolutely perfect in every way, then he’s going against the Rebbe.”

I guess in your opinion, all yeshivah bochurim are going against the Rebbe.

WOW
Guest
WOW

This is so beautiful! May Hashem bench this Bochur with all the good things. And may he have good influence on his own peers as well!!!

thats just amazing!
Guest
thats just amazing!

Wow…

stam
Guest
stam

the bochur was learning

made my day!
Guest
made my day!

This article made my day, but the comment by #1 really trivialized an amazing mitzvah that was done by a real “tzadik” as they called him in the letter. If only more boys these days spent their time doing such great things! Continue the great work “Shnuer the Tzadik!”

to # 1
Guest
to # 1

he didnt choose to be late… he was asked to stay after he had planned to go!
read the article

Moshiach now!
Guest
Moshiach now!

What ever the case is I’m sure he meant good.
And that during these dark days of Golus the Rebbe is fissure proud of any Mivtzoyim that takes place.

Dear Mashgiach I wish you that you should only have to deal with such problems.

Dear Mashgiach
Guest
Dear Mashgiach

I would like to wish you out of the depths of my heart that you should only need to deal with so called problems of this sort.

With no doubt it will hasten the coming of Moshiach now!

To #1
Guest
To #1

pessimist. Also, who are you to say what the rebbe would be happy with?

Dear mashgiach
Guest
Dear mashgiach

Dear MAshgiach,

before you go into others small problems please look at your problems because it looks like you need to fix them!!!!

it is better for the boy to go on mivtzoim during seder then the boy going off the derech

what i think all people involved with chinuch should learn that if i boy did something good and missed good also he should not be SCREAMEd AT!!!!!

IF YOU HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO SAY SAY NOTHING!!!

Mom
Guest
Mom

Shneur HaTzaddik. Most definitely he is.

Another Mom
Guest
Another Mom

Let the Yeshiva of Natzeret Illit decide if the boy did the right thing not the readers of COL or hanholos of other Yeshivas. They know the boy, they know the situation, maybe they worked out such a plan in advance with him, just like the yeshivas here allow the boys to go on Release Time every Wednesday during Seder (which is done with the Rebbe Rayatz and our Rebbe’s permission).

Chasidim wake up!!!
Guest
Chasidim wake up!!!

The alter Rebbe should have been in shul on Yom Kippur but instead went to help the woman who had just given birth let’s think about this story what do we learn if somebody is in need of something we help them the police officers were clearly in need of something and the boy went to help them this is why we’re here it’s not about rules and regulations it’s about people and our love for each other let’s get real let’s wake up this is it!!!

shlucha
Guest
shlucha

the whole point of learning in yeshiva is to DO SHLICHUS, and learn with another yid!!! You have to think about OTHER people before yourself. Otherwise, why would shluchim move their families to far crazy places with no minyan, mikva in the beginning? – all to help another jew!!! Whoever doesn’t think this maybe needs to work on their ahavas yisroel

What an exceptional article
Guest
What an exceptional article

Spoiled by comment # 1.What thrill do you get from comments like that? Weigh up the situation before pathetic comments. No wonder bochur in have a hard time respecting…. Give a little credit please without thoughtless hogwash

One of many examples of the Rebbe's words
Guest
One of many examples of the Rebbe's words

Acharon shel Pesach תש”ל: Where the Rebbe says that the youth will lead the rest towards the Geulah, due to their mission of being Neiros Lehoir. Even at this age they train to spread Yiddishkeit. But only during set times that do NOT disturb the regular Seder. To the Shlucha #37. Shlichus is about giving our life to another. But a Yeshiva student is not at that stage. And the Rebbe very clearly says, that learning is vital before Shlichus, especially at this age. And if we always think of others first (think oxyen mask on a plane) we will… Read more »

שקלא וטריא & לימוד זכות
Guest
שקלא וטריא & לימוד זכות

It says clearly in the letter that the Bochur asked to leave back to yeshiva, however, the police requested he stay and gave him a note, it also says that the Bochur comes there on a daily basis, so ממה נפשך if he was not aloud to go ever, where was the mashgiach not knowing about it?. And if he was aloud to go then he did NOT miss Seder by choice as the letter clearly explains it, he followed the request of the police (דינא דמלכותא דינא) give this Bochur a brake, הלוואי it should be the Worst problem… Read more »

shliach........sources sources......
Guest
shliach........sources sources......

the worst thing i hope my son will ever do is to come late to yeshiva from mivtzoim.. however the rule is the rule .. mivtzoim has to be michutz laseder every bachur has to learn the edited sicha on this issue of what is demanded of a bachur… explained very eloquently.. it is in lekutei sichos vol. 14 in the back .. acharon shel pesach …. i believe .. 5736

to 36
Guest
to 36

judaism is about rules and regulations… see well !! tanya beginning of perek 41 . discipline comes b4 and is more important then love. that what the good holy book says… despite how u feel

One-time Lateness
Guest
One-time Lateness

He wanted to get back but the officers kept him there.
He made the right decision as long as it’s a one-time lateness.

to comment #1
Guest
to comment #1

your a little inaccurate . the rebbe said generally not in seder time. but with permission from hanhalla when the mivtzaim is really needed , exceptions are just fine.

Great
Guest
Great

this is truly a kiddush Hashem

X