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Parents Still Fear Vaccinations

Despite medical assurances, the number of parents in New York asking to exempt their children from school immunization requirements is steadily rising. Full Story

Rabbi Shmuel Lazar OBM

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Rishe
July 14, 2010 8:49 am

I am the first and only person to put a real name on a comment. And probably the last. I would like to respond to number 21 who wrote: Just curious… Did anybody ask a Rav if it was okay to put your child and other children at risk by not taking a sensible precaution like immunization, based on something you read on the internet? Do you have the right to make a life and death decision like this? Dear Nameless Blogger 21, it is not a question of whether you have the right to make this decision. By having… Read more »

Vaccinations or Immunizations?
July 13, 2010 8:33 pm

It may seem like just a question of semantics, but it actually is a core issue in the debate. Having read so much and heard from so many “immunization proponents” and “anti vaxers” I can almost judge which side they support by the word they use. When someone uses the word “immunization” they are most probably a proponent. The term “immunization” infers that vaccines are guaranteed to convey immunity- which unfortunately they are not. Not to mention that they come with a long list of possible side effects. The correct term is “vaccine”, meaning, the actual shot. Whether or not… Read more »

To #29
July 13, 2010 7:48 pm

You make a very valid anti-vaccination point! If the vaccines only protect for a limited amount of time, it turns out that the people in danger of contracting the diseases are the adults, who are actually at higher risk! All of these diseases are experienced in milder cases by children (with the exception of infants- who BTW are not vaccinated anyway!) The religious grounds for not vaccinating are “V’NISHMARTEM L’NAFSHOSEICHEM”. If you have found enough information to doubt the safety of vaccinations for your child, and are more confident to battle the chicken pox than the varicella vaccine, this Torah… Read more »

imunizations is the best way to protect yourself
July 13, 2010 12:27 pm

when the mumphs started alot of my friends got it and i asked them did you get the imunization ? and he said ya and i aked him when and than he said more then 10 years ago people should know that not every vaccine protects forever i was protected thats why i didnt catch

FDA removes a vaccine due to 3rd party investigation
July 13, 2010 2:35 am
don't vaccinate
July 12, 2010 11:05 pm

all those who vaccinate their children without researching unbiased opinions are harming their children – hold strong and don’t vaccinate. read the following fascinating article about the Amish who don’t vaccinate.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/
science/autism_none_for_unvaccinated_amish.htm

dont be afraid to ask real questions
July 12, 2010 10:44 pm

do your own research
mothering.com
search the immunization section of the forum and forum archives
googlescholar.com
do a search for each immunizations.

learn to ask questions.

to 16
July 12, 2010 10:01 pm

I read this book – a most for any serious parent thinking about the medical importance of immunizations
http://www.amazon.com/Factcines-Facts-Vaccines-Data-Decide/dp/1419684299

Do you know what's in a vaccine?
July 12, 2010 9:27 pm

*ammonium sulfate (salt) * beta- propiolactone- known to cause cancer. suspected gastrointestinal, liver, respiratory, skin and sense and organ poison *genetically modified yeast, animal, bacterial & viral DNA- causes unknown genetic mutations *Latex rubber *monosodium glutamate (MSG) *aluminum *formaldehyde (formalin) *micro-organisms *polysorbate 80- known to cause cancer in animals *tri(n)butylphosphate – suspected nerve and kidney poison *glutaraldehyde -poisoness if ingested. Causes birth defects in experimental animals *gelatin *gentamicin sulfate & polymyxin B (antibiotics) *mercury (thimerosal) *neomycin sulfate (antibiotic) *phenol/phenoxyethanol *human and animal cells- from aborted fetal tissue. Pig blood, horse, blood, rabbit brain, guinea pig, dog kidney, cow, heart, monkey… Read more »

hello!
July 12, 2010 9:13 pm

even if everyone in the US vaccinate their children, people are forever flying around the world, to places where vaccinations are not required. Diseases have potential to get oround when vaccinations are given or not.

To 19
July 12, 2010 8:58 pm

Autism is so rampant these days and age because there was not a definition for it 20 years ago. It was in the DSM (diagnositic and statistical manual for mental health) but not well understood. Today, it is the diagnosis du jour. People label, but still can be mistaken for ADHD as easily. It is not an increase in AS (autism spectrum) but a better understanding of what it looks like. As for the supposed autism-vacine link, the the phoney discoverer of this fed information to his study to make it look like there was a link, when indeed, there… Read more »

Just curious...
July 12, 2010 8:25 pm

Did anybody ask a Rav if it was okay to put your child and other children at risk by not taking a sensible precaution like immunization, based on something you read on the internet? Do you have the right to make a life and death decision like this?

East Coast Jews are Amazing...
July 12, 2010 6:11 pm

I am astounded by the foolishness/selfishness of the east coast jews (it’s not just CH – Lakewood is just as bad if not worse) and posters like #18. Have you not learned anything from the Mumps outbreak?? Do you realize that Mumps had been virtually eradicated from this country and only came back because of the selfishness of the orthodox jewish communities? B”H mumps is relatively innocuous (aside from a few men going sterile and some kids going deaf) but imagine if it was something worse? This attitude about not listening to doctors (even though the Rebbe told us many… Read more »

Religious exemption
July 12, 2010 5:56 pm

Just to clarify: People citing religious exemption are NOT saying Judaism says not to vaccinate. They are saying that their religion holds to do what is best for their child. And, in their estimation and after doing research, this is what they hold is best for their child.

sorry
July 12, 2010 5:10 pm

do you know how common autism is today it is madness i dont know if there is a link but i am sure suspicious i hear a lot of anger so there’s no point in continuing this “discussion” it is a hot topic, understandably, we are talking about the health and lives of our children. some dont want to vaccinate for that reason!! personally i am that scared of them, i would rather take my risk with the disease Gd forbid. although polio is one i would consider. i would have to rethink the whole subject actually, but i cannot… Read more »

Very annoyed
July 12, 2010 4:06 pm

I am getting very annoyed with yidden who are using religious exemptions from getting the shots. There is NO religious reason to not get. Don’t use religion as an excuse to not do something you don’t want to do for other reasons! It makes us all look bad in the long run.

Please just post websites and books and other source information
July 12, 2010 3:02 pm

about the pros and cons for vaccines.

Too many people waste time saying ridicules things, like #2 and #6

To # 12
July 12, 2010 2:39 pm

what you say about polio, that one is more likely to contract it today from the vaccine is only because the vaccine was effective and polio is not around like it used to be, so yes before the vaccine, hundreds of kids would have gotten and today (thanks to vaccine) only one in a million might get it from it. and the reason why the whooping cough vaccine is given to babies older the 6 months even though they are out of risk, is to prevent others (other younger infants, just like this baby getting the shot today was safe… Read more »

To # 4 and #8
July 12, 2010 2:33 pm

Read the book in #1 and you will see there is loads of real medical data from a variety of studies …

wow
July 12, 2010 2:27 pm

from the comments (here, yet again), i’m surprised that we lubavitch don’t have a thriving scientific research center. so many people with “expert” opinions. why don’t each of you with disagreements consult with your own expert in the field and decide for yourself without chastising each other.

To #2
July 12, 2010 2:10 pm

Anytime anyone emphatically and categorically denies the other side of the argument the right to their opinion, they are simply showcasing their stupidity!! Embarrasing how many dumb people we live amongst…….

surprising facts
July 12, 2010 1:57 pm

Doctors are not trained to scientifically evaluate the pros and cons of immunizations, or any other treatment. This field more properly belongs to those trained in statistical analysis, which I have. The CDC and other similar organizations should have staff members that can better evaluate these matters. The CDC actually issued the recommendations that the doctors use. However, you can find surprising items on the CDC website, like that in the USA a person is more likely to get polio from getting a polio vaccine than contracting the disease naturally. Another item from the CDC, Whooping Cough is only dangerous… Read more »

To number 8
July 12, 2010 1:37 pm

There’s one slight issue: Herd Immunity – look it up and see why not vaccinating hurts other kids too.

to #8
July 12, 2010 1:13 pm

I’m not #5, but from what I’ve read, it actually was because so many kids were not vaccinated. The vaccine is meant to protect from small exposure, not from an outbreak where many people have it. So yes, it was because of the large amounts of kids who were not immunized!

To number 5
July 12, 2010 12:03 pm

With all due respect, 80% of the kids with mumps were immunized. Please don’t blame the children who were not immunized.

whats a religious reason to not be immune?
July 12, 2010 11:56 am
idiots
July 12, 2010 11:42 am

to all of the parents that think they are smarter then every doctor. if your child was in my school, I would never allow your child to step foot into a classroom knowing that I am putting 30 other children in SAKANA….

see
July 12, 2010 11:40 am

its because of these people the mumps went around

A Mom
July 12, 2010 11:31 am

If you can find even ONE study showing the safety of vaccines that was done well and NOT funded by vaccine manufacturers or people with money in the field, please post. As far as I know, there is no 3rd party independent study researching vaccines.

-from a mom who spaces out vaccinations but is still worried about them.

It's not fear
July 12, 2010 11:13 am

Try posting something non-biased for once. We made our decision for the safety of our children, not from “uneducated fear” as is a favorite propaganda phrase.

What a bunch of morons ...
July 12, 2010 11:01 am

There is no justifiable religious reason — if any reason exists at all — not to immunize children. The fact that this keeps coming up is evidence that people in our communities are insane and out of touch.

The Facts on Vaccine
July 12, 2010 10:59 am

Want to know the facts?Read:
Factcines: Facts on Vaccines. Just the Data. You Decide
by Dr Susan Shoshana Weisberg MD. Available on Amazon.com .

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