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Owner of NJ Chinese Kosher Eatery Seen With Non-Kosher Food

The Kosher Chinese Express in Manalapan, New Jersey lost its certification after a damning video emerged of the owner buying non-kosher meat and chickens at a nearby wholesale store; OK Kosher to customers: Kasher your utensils. Full Story, Video

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Confused
September 5, 2022 9:12 pm

Isn’t the point of having hashgacha, having a mashgiach there at all times??? Did the mashgiach not see this being brought into the restaurant?
Something doesn’t sound right..

Huh?
Reply to  Confused
September 6, 2022 8:30 am

Not every place will have a mashgiach temidiis

Someone who frequents there...
Reply to  Confused
September 6, 2022 10:08 am

The mashgiach is usually snoring in a chair. He is hard to wake up. I’ve been there a few times and he is always asleep which made us very uncomfortable.

No need for Kornblum
September 5, 2022 9:19 pm

As he is an apologist for restaurant owners no matter what they do… just go directly to the hashgacha

Mr M
September 5, 2022 9:25 pm

Notice no one signed the letter.

What?
September 5, 2022 9:42 pm

Maybe he was buying it to donate to a homeless fellow?

Strange
September 5, 2022 10:04 pm

Who would have taken this kind of video? And then leaked it to the public.

Rabbi Yehuda Shain
September 5, 2022 10:25 pm

YUdel Shain from Lakewood was the original Hashgocha on the Manalapan chinese restaurant and the owner was KEN. Reb Yudel then brought in the OK as it was located in an area that may have needed a National name hashgocha as well. Reb Yudel did not allow the owner to have a key to the restaurant. The Mashgichim had a number of serious kashrus issues, they called DYL of the OK, to pull the Hashgocha. Rabbi DYL said “it’s lean times, so we can’t drop any hashgochas”. Soon after KEN sold it to his Cousin Henry. The family has two… Read more »

come on
Reply to  Rabbi Yehuda Shain
September 6, 2022 3:25 pm

take this with a grain of salt…

Fake news
Reply to  Rabbi Yehuda Shain
September 7, 2022 11:10 am

Be aware: This is a completely made up post and has no truth to it.

Also confused
September 6, 2022 12:25 am

In the article they wrote that there is no evidence that the treif stuff was brought into the restaurant. The owner bought not kosher stuff. He has another not kosher restaurant so nothing is sure at all. Did I understand correct?

How can you ever trust a non frum or Goy?
September 6, 2022 1:11 am

Like by Landau, any restaurant should have only the mashgiach have the keys and should not have any other responsibilities other than his mashgiach work

Owner without a key?
Reply to  How can you ever trust a non frum or Goy?
September 6, 2022 10:33 am

One must be very naive to think the owner doesn’t have a key

Most hechsherim
Reply to  Owner without a key?
September 6, 2022 3:26 pm

Practically most top hechsherim, around the world, have the same policy

Clueless
Reply to  Owner without a key?
September 7, 2022 11:11 am

No reputable Hechsher allows A Goyish owner to have the keys.

No facts feom the PK
September 6, 2022 3:39 am

So basically the OK has no support for their statement other than the video and blank signed letter which looks like halachic positions are based on suspicious conduct but no supporting facts. What should have happened is the kosher private eye should have followed him and see where he went. Now as a community there is suspicious behavior without firm proof. A potentially compliant kosher business is shuttered as any logical businessman would do based on social media frenzy.

Did you read the article
Reply to  No facts feom the PK
September 12, 2022 11:29 pm

Even from the article it is clear that there is more than just the video, the whole “fumbling with his words” thing, and “the lack of trust when questioning the owner”. I would also not be surprised if there are more details that surfaced from the investigation more than just the video clip. They don’t have to explain every detail of their investigation to you, they can say their conclusion.

Prevention
September 6, 2022 4:41 am

What the owner of a kosher restaurant does outside of the restaurant has nothing to do with the restaurant. Why? Because as G-d-fearing Jews we know that we would only eat at a restaurant that has full time supervision. The full time supervision would be the only ones with access to food preparation areas. The owner (or anyone else) would have no way to bring in kosher let alone non-kosher food without it being caught before it reached food preparation areas. All of that ASSUMES that the kashrus supervision is sufficient to ensure all of the above. IF there was… Read more »

We use them to cater so many events
September 6, 2022 6:31 am

This is so upsetting

Michael Stein
September 6, 2022 10:05 am

Was the non kosher brought into the Kosher restaurant?
Once the non kosher was loaded into the vehicle was it seen anywhere near the kosher restaurant?

Restaurants
September 6, 2022 2:43 pm

Honestly, this story makes me so nauseous. Every few years, something like this props up. Hashgacha is complicated in a food prep area, even with Mashgichim. How can a non-Jewish person have the sensibility of what Kosher means to me? The guy probably thinks it’s all the same, blessed by a rabbi or some such nonsense. In the meantime, ch’v something like this is bound to happen. Hashem Yishmor.  Makes me think twice about the value of eating in a restaurant. Not to mention that home made food is fresher, tastier and healthier… and cheaper. As an Akeres Habayis, my family’s… Read more »

I don't understand your solution
Reply to  Restaurants
September 12, 2022 11:33 pm

You shecht your own chickens? You trust the hashgacha about the shechita but not about which item was brought into the restaurant? Which items are used in the restaurant are more black and white and difficult to forge than the difference between a glat kosher shechita or not

Anonymous
September 6, 2022 3:27 pm

It is Alleged that this non kosher chicken and Meat purchased at Restaurant Depot on the Kosher Chinese Manalapan Credit Card

This isn't talking about if the restaurant is Kosh
September 6, 2022 4:04 pm

It doesn’t matter if the food was brought into the kosher restaurant or not. I would feel uncomfortable regardless. Just the fact that he bought non kosher food is not okay. (maybe for another restaurant, maybe for his house) That is why it’s a level not to eat food from a person who is not Shomer Shabbos and even more so from a person who doesn’t keep kosher. So this post is for people who currently eat at this restaurant and would feel uncomfortable eating there now after seeing this.

Just to explain..

Owner with a key and other perils...
September 15, 2022 1:11 am

I genuinely wonder how many kashrus certifications are issued by various agencies to establishments run by owners that don’t keep kosher, and how many of them bar the owner from entering said establishment without a mashgiach? I’m going to guess that this isn’t as unique a case as we would like to think. Furthermore, for those who think that if the owner “doesn’t” have a key the kashrus is “safe,” what makes them sure the owner didn’t cut himself a key before handing over the “only” key to the mashgiach? Honestly, if you really want to be careful you shouldn’t… Read more »

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