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    New Women’s Mikvah Planned

    Plans to build a $2.5 Million women's mikvah, spa and fitness center in the heart of Crown Heights are underway, COLlive has learned. Full Story

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    NOT TOO SMART
    Guest
    NOT TOO SMART

    to have a womans mikvah on crown and albany with the THREE lchaim halls right on that corner….

    It's about time...
    Guest
    It's about time...

    Mazal Tov!! The women in crown heights absolutely deserve this!!!

    Ich farshtei nisht ...
    Guest
    Ich farshtei nisht ...

    Until now everyone made a big deal about privacy when going to the mikveh because a few people might see you going in. Now they’re building a community center where hundreds of people will be around to see who’s going to the mikveh???

    tzinus
    Guest
    tzinus

    how does privacy fit into the picture? bring your teenage daughters with you to swim while you take a dip and the go upstairs to a lchaim. How convenient. And the men can pass by too.

    wow
    Guest
    wow

    This will be amazing for CH

    HATZLOCHA RABBA!
    Guest
    HATZLOCHA RABBA!

    It’s amazing how Machon Chana tries to fill the needs of the community.

    very interesting
    Guest
    very interesting
    great i am all for it
    Guest
    great i am all for it

    but were will they park!!!???

    Nice!
    Guest
    Nice!

    That looks amazing, what a beautiful addition to the community this will make. i hope it’s not all just dreams and wishes.

    FInally
    Guest
    FInally

    WOW

    yosef
    Guest
    yosef

    this is by far the best thing that ever happened to crown heights in recent times, god bless you this is worth living for

    Out of towner
    Guest
    Out of towner

    Very impressive. The Rebbe is certainly proud.

    Machon Chana
    Guest
    Machon Chana

    Its all very nice,,, but where is Machon Chana in the building owned by Machon Chana Women’s Institute?

    CH Resident
    Guest
    CH Resident

    What ever happend to the Beis Shmuel womens mikva we heard so much about.

    This plan is too ambitios. let’s keep the focus on a new mikva

    Hindy
    Guest
    Hindy

    Cool… glad I cancelled my gym membership.. no more excuses!!!

    To 1, 3 and 4
    Guest
    To 1, 3 and 4

    To # 1 and 4 Don’t be so pessimistic

    You know how convenient it will be for ladies going to a lechaim. Come stop by say hi leave for an hour and no one will ever know you left.

    to #3
    In ALL seriousness to clarify things maybe Rabbi Garelik should publicize a letter explaining these issues that all residents are having.

    a married woman
    Guest
    a married woman

    what difference does it make where it is, all over the world mikvas are near the boys yeshiva or a shul. sowhat are you complaining about just say about time we can have another mikva to go to

    yiddene
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    yiddene

    is the woman going to the mikva expected to use the pool -spa, the same day, before or after? something is missing in this plan which i dont grasp as yet
    if this is for others, then why connect it with the mikva?
    is this supposed to help tznius in any way.
    are you trying to make the mikvah a public spectacle? is thia done in any other frum community, pray tell?

    neighbor down the block
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    neighbor down the block

    I agree with #4. And I presume they will kick out the two minyanim to create this gorgeous place?

    Parking is impossible here already, so don’t bring your car. I can’t see them succeeding, they’ve never achieved too much so far even though they have great ideas & intentions. How will they raise the money? Not from me!

    nice!
    Guest
    nice!
    CH woman
    Guest
    CH woman

    I can’t wait. What great plans. It will be very tznius. Since this will be a multi function building noone will know what you’re going for.. & btw the mikva on Union street is not very tznius. people are always walking by & that is only a 1 function building.

    chana
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    chana

    when u go into the building know one will know what ur going in for could be the cafe, swimming, or the mikva!! i think its a fantastic idea!!!

    I don't get the commentators
    Guest
    I don't get the commentators

    It’s a full fledge gym etc..it’s not like it’s only a mikvah so who cares if it’s near lechaim halls etc. No one will know if a woman is going in to use the gym, mikvah or swimming pool.

    It’s probably better that way so it feels safer.

    pool!!!!!!
    Guest
    pool!!!!!!

    yay! cant wait!!

    what about the 40 or so families that live there
    Guest
    what about the 40 or so families that live there

    Housing is so expensive and hard to come by, what are all
    the families that get kicked out of their apartments going to do,
    why don’t they do this project on the empty lot right across the
    Mikvah on Albany Ave., that would be a win win situation.

    they won't know?
    Guest
    they won't know?

    until, they don’t see her at the lchaim or gym. or when she meets her friend walking in to the building who says” great, are you also going to so and so’s lchaim- I’ll walk in with you’. And then the poor lady has to lie and say- no, I’m going swimming (albeit, I have no bags with me)
    this can get so amusing- is she dressed for a lchaim- does she have a wimming bag- does she look embarrased? I can go on and on…. maybe we can make a mendy pellin show about all the different circumstances 🙂

    to number 23
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    to number 23

    How do you know that no one will know if you haveto use the mivkah…………spa or whatever. If you are there and others are around in the same area for other reasons, its very LIKELY that you will be seen.
    Some of us still like the concept of tnuius, privacy etc.
    Woman will look around, walk around, tour the building untill its one big party!

    #26 is right!!
    Guest
    #26 is right!!

    Crown & Albany??? Are you kidding? Plans look beautiful, but I would rather use the old mikva on Union & Albany. I have been using it for 10 years now & rarely meet other people outside. It’s a very quiet area.

    ridiculous idea
    Guest
    ridiculous idea

    to have a mikvah in middle of crown heights its totally not tzniyus and takes away from the beauty of the mitzvah especially since crown and albany is the center of activity at night
    if your gonna buil a mikvah build it somewhere else a little less crowded

    Unreal!
    Guest
    Unreal!

    Wow, i cant believe this.. The Crown Height “Y” put so much money, time, and effort into the locker room.. Some people are so unappreciative! Anytime something good happens in C.H you will never hear Thank You or good Job, all you hear is one complaint after another…..

    Everyone is so CYNICAL!!
    Guest
    Everyone is so CYNICAL!!

    This is a fantastic project for Crown Heights and much needed. I pray this happens and is completely quickly with all the Rebbe’s brochos.
    And for everyone who is mocking the idea, I would certainly like to think the planners have addressed all of your concerns and I am confident it will be developed in a way that is kosher, tznius, etc.
    Intelligent people are those who find answers, not just problems.

    Keep it separate
    Guest
    Keep it separate

    this is a great idea, but keep the mikvah out of it and buid separately. I agree the community is need of a womens/girls center, but why with a Mikvah? The Mikvah needs to be in a totally separate location (in the outskirts of CH) and does not need to have the fitness center included with it.

    VERY PRIVATE
    Guest
    VERY PRIVATE

    Hello maybe the fact that its a public building with a lot of other things going on is a GOOD thing people dont have to know what you are going in for the pool,mikvah, cafe, l’chaim….its PERFECT!

    stuning
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    stuning

    this is stuning i am sure the people who planed this and put it together thought about the privacy issue and r making sure this is the best plan possible 4 all……

    cool down!
    Guest
    cool down!

    This is not happening so fast, by then you’ll be bubbys and it wont effect you. As the flier says “imagine”.

    whats with the beis shmuel mikveh?
    Guest
    whats with the beis shmuel mikveh?

    weren’t there plans to build a mikveh on lefferts/troy?
    think its a fantastic idea!
    Hatzlocha Rabboh!

     Four exits
    Guest
    Four exits

    Many hours of thought have gone into the planning and ensuring privacy. There are many different entrances (monitored) to ensure privacy and options. Wih modern technology- elevators are controlled different hours. The pool and spa are on the other side of the 12000 square space with separate access. The foremost concern is of course privacy. There are also sufficient private waiting areas planned. Also all men’s entrances to simcha hall and shul will be on Albany. Main entrance and Crown st exclusively for women. All imput is greatly appreciated. Keep it going.

    This is fantastic~~
    Guest
    This is fantastic~~

    The only issue I have is,, that there will only be two mikvaos and 12 bathrooms,, at least in the beginning until it gets destroyed, I am sure that it will be so packed,, the waiting will be horrendous!

    Didan natzach!
    Guest
    Didan natzach!

    May this be a beginning of many victories in the war of tznius, tahara,and kedusha in our schuna and throughout the world! giving the Rebbe the nachas He deserves.

    Imagination or Reality
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    Imagination or Reality

    Yasher koach to those who got it down on paper. But bringing it to reality depends on all of us in the community. The need to have a beautiful women’s facility is tremendous and every day gone is avaida shaina chozeres… Building mikvoas precedes shuls…

    kolhakavod
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    kolhakavod

    i just hope the planners ignore all the naysayers

    What ever happend to the Beis Shmuel womens mikva we heard so much about.
    Guest
    What ever happend to the Beis Shmuel womens mikva we heard so much about.

    I heard that they are starting to build as soon as plans get approved which is very shortly

    # 25
    Guest
    # 25

    # 25 what makes you think that they will force all the families
    out ? that would be insane.

    thank you! thank you! thank you!
    Guest
    thank you! thank you! thank you!

    this is soooo long overdue
    hatzlacha rabba v’muflaga in all that you do!

    Needed: support and encouragement!!
    Guest
    Needed: support and encouragement!!

    all the negativity is a downer for something that would enrich our community’s hard working mothers. Everyone would benefit so greatly from the gym/spa/pool and 1st descent mikvah that’s long overdue in our neighborhood!!!

    $25 million
    Guest
    $25 million

    From the looks of the drawing it will probably cost closer to $25 million. I’ll believe it will happen when I see it done.

    some people dont think!
    Guest
    some people dont think!

    a person can walk into the building and it can be for the pool, fittness or mikva. so no problem about privicy…

    tznius?!?!?!
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    tznius?!?!?!

    Please excuse my negative reaction, I think this is a horrendous idea, even though the intentions are good. How is it mutar to mix recreation with mikvah? This will undoubtedly cause a host of awkward situations. Meeting your teenage daughter, who knows you don’t have a ‘gym membership’ or going to a l’chaim without a stitch of makeup? The idea that ‘noone will know why you are going in’ is besides the point. Before or after going to the mikva is a private and thoughtful time, not the time to socialize. Also, the location is far too central! Whatever happened… Read more »

    to the ppl who made neg comments
    Guest
    to the ppl who made neg comments

    BS”D
    sad

    what a shame!!
    Guest
    what a shame!!

    always ,nothing but negative remarks
    by the way a little excercise would do some of you good

    Who said 12 rooms ?
    Guest
    Who said 12 rooms ?

    i see 14.

    Uh...interesting...
    Guest
    Uh...interesting...

    WHO would spend hours at the mikvah..first going, then go to the gym, the spa and pool? A mikvah where you can bring your children for babysitting? This is nuts! Women want to get in and then get back home as soon as possible. So much money for this stuff, when families can not pay tuition.

    Please explain me
    Guest
    Please explain me

    If Moshiach is coming any moment, do we, in CH need a fancier mikve. What new clientele will it attract to the mitzvah? Why spend so much money on such a temporary beautification?

    read the article instead of complaining!!
    Guest
    read the article instead of complaining!!

    did nobody read the article??
    it says clearly separate entrance for the mikvah- who said anything about bumping into ppl going to swim etc?
    the yetzer hara will be there whenever something good is trying to get done, no need for u to enforce it,

    Truth is truth!  If you cant take the heat-get out of the kitchen.
    Guest
    Truth is truth! If you cant take the heat-get out of the kitchen.

    My g-d, all you out there trying to quiet down the privacy issue with the excuse of “stop being so cynical” or “stop being so negative”, go back to your psychiatrist or go to s. Fransico where the liberals like to just deny reality… If you can;t handle the heat get outta the kitchen, if you can’t handle the Truth/reality the you don’t belong in a debate, because contrary to your liberal beliefs, not everything that happens or is proposed in this world is all just perfect and excellent… Nobody is denying the CH is in dire need for a… Read more »

    is this a not-for-profit project?
    Guest
    is this a not-for-profit project?

    the article does not say the donations are tax deductible. although there is probably a way to get tax receipts by making one part of the project not for profit. so that is not the final way to tell.

    people would assume a project with a Mikveh is not for profit – but that is not a safe assumption.

    if it is a for profit project – support should be in the form of loans or shares – not donations.

    the article does not say how much they expect membership will be.

    Complainers
    Guest
    Complainers

    Some ppl will always complain. At least now there will be a choice. If you would like to go to the Mikva on Union Street… GO. Some Women would perfer to go to a Mikva that is clean and new and come home feeling like a dignified women.

    Att: 53
    Guest
    Att: 53

    Wow. What a stupid comment. Yes we all hope and pray Moshiach is coming anyday but if you really believe that there is no need for “temporary beautification” then you are very unaware of the youth in from our community. Open your eyes and you will see how many young “NEED” this. And there is nothn wrong with wanting to go to the Mikva in a nice place.

    too many comments
    Guest
    too many comments

    pehraps the idea is that you can say you are going for a massage and no one knows that you slip into the mik. and no one has to know….
    Levi

    Market them separately
    Guest
    Market them separately

    In reading the first paragraph I found the reference to the threesome: “women’s mikvah, spa and fitness center” jarring. I think they should be “marketed” separately. I find the “all under one roof” line unappealing. It makes me cringe since it doesn’t seem to afford the mikva the kavod it deserves. I go to the mikva for tahara, not to elevate my soul, and a mikva is not on a par with a spa and fitness center. I don’t agree with those who oppose having a mikva in a well-trafficked area as long as there is a discreet way to… Read more »

    to #23
    Guest
    to #23

    People will know what youre going in for, if you have no make up on or look like a ghost, i think everyone will know where and why youre going.
    If youre make up is all made up then youre going for a simcha otherwise people will assume y youre there.

    Even after reading all the good and negative comments
    Guest
    Even after reading all the good and negative comments

    and trying to keep a positive and open minded outlook, I stll disagree with the location of the mikvah. The spa and gym and pool etc… sound great but don’t confuse the mikvah into all of this. You could have the most private entrance but let’s not deny reality that this is crown and albany!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! buildings, yeshivos, simchas on all 4 corners. bad bad bad idea!!!! Either beautify the union street mikvah or build the beis shmuel mikvah or find another location and keep police men and guards there. I would not be interested in talking to people on the… Read more »

    Excited resident
    Guest
    Excited resident

    All I wanna know is, when will it be ready?

    sounds good...but
    Guest
    sounds good...but

    Do I see see correctly, are there only 14 rooms to prepare in? If you are building a Mikvah for a large community, at least build it with enough space…

    # 62 spot on!!
    Guest
    # 62 spot on!!
    traffic light
    Guest
    traffic light

    we all know that when a traffic light when up on union and albany it was really rediculis i dont need to drive by and see my neighber or mother or siter coming out of the mikvah. the worst thing is now to go and make a mikvah on such a busiy corner do it on east new yourk and kingston ehre there is a empty lot, lots of aprking as well that is where the comunity is growing, its a sfe place, quiet and night, and none sees who is coming or going. as well it will obviously be… Read more »

    little hope but nice idea.
    Guest
    little hope but nice idea.

    E NEW YORK AND BROOKLYN IS A RLLY GOOD SPOT, I AGREE WITH #66.
    A FRIENDLY TIP:
    IF U MAKE A NICE MIKVAH – MAKE SURE PPL ARE COMFTORABLE USING IT.

    what about...
    Guest
    what about...

    beis rivka lefferts basement there is lot of space there quiet by night support a already made building with plumbing there electriciy…

    After reading all the comments
    Guest
    After reading all the comments

    There seems to be two trains of thought some people think that a mikvah should be in a quiet place that way nobody can see you but on the other hand everybody driving or walking near by knows exactly what you are doing on Albany after sunset
    The other option is to make it in a very public area that way nobody knows if you are going in to a lachaim or to the gym
    I guess that’s why it’s good to have two mikvah’s to make everybody comfortable

    Seichel
    Guest
    Seichel

    Location not such a great idea. Don’t think flyer should say “pamper your body.”

    25 MILLION!
    Guest
    25 MILLION!

    Why don’t you take that money and help the families in C.H who don’t have money.. Or food on their table or cant pay for their house.. this is not the smartest way to spend waist 25 million!!!!

    mikva
    Guest
    mikva

    kol hakavod shkoyach!

    to 71
    Guest
    to 71

    if you would know how to read 2.5 mil not 25 mil
    you can get a job and pay for food for your family and your rent

    The Wise Rabbi's Advice
    Guest
    The Wise Rabbi's Advice

    You’re right. You’re right. and, You’re also right. This was clearly a hot and most read article. Everyone’s opinion is important and valuable. This is the koach of 2010 to be able to hear everyone’s insight. The planners are planning big plans for the women of the community and it is great to hear what the women are saying.

    Whats the big deal?
    Guest
    Whats the big deal?

    Most of the Mikvahs I have been to, are part of a community center. And yes, very often, “mikvah hour” coincides with “maariv hour”. Its very simple to make a separate and private entrance!! To all those who do not approve of the money being spent- why are “chabad houses” the only eligible ones for an esthetically appealing mikvah?? why should women cringe at the thought of using a dirty and old facility? Us women make many sacrifices for this integral Mitzvah, and I do believe we deserve to perform this mitzvah in a “regal” environment. I commend those who… Read more »

    # 73
    Guest
    # 73

    I guess you dont know what it feels like not to have something! With the hard times its not so easy to find a job. Wow i really never met someone who would even answer a Q like that. What if there is a family that the parents are divorce? Or One of the parents lost a job? You really think that is the best answer. I think you need to wake up and see what is really going on out there.

    PAY ATTENTION
    Guest
    PAY ATTENTION

    Just wanted to say that LOOKING at the plan, there doesn’t seem to be any REAL separation from mikvah and pool; they seem to share open spaces (or glass separations). Stair cases seem to be sharing destanations. So unless I don’t know HOW to look at the plan that is a PROBLEM that everyone is concerned about and rightfully so. Another complaint about $$$ well, it won’t go up for 2.5 million(impossible) $25 million may actually be the right number(that I can’t really say forsure). If you can’t afford to help then don’t, if you don’t want to help then… Read more »

    separate entrance??
    Guest
    separate entrance??

    picture does show two entrances on crown st. ‘sooo separate and private’ -sarcastic. even if there is anotherentrance we can still SEE which one YOU”RE using!!!!
    come on people.
    Needed? Absolutely!
    Creative? Sure!
    Thoughtful? Good question!
    General idea- GREAT.
    Mikvah issue- REAL!
    Good Luck!
    YOU CAN DO IT!
    WE BEG THAT YOU DO IT RIGHT!!!

    separate entrances
    Guest
    separate entrances

    To me it looks like there is an entrance and an exit on the right side of the building on crown st . I guess the others constitute the elevator and another, a staircase from the leftside which goes to the spa. I heard there is another one from the alley going directly to the mikvah side which is convenient if parking places can be rented from neighbors.

    coollllllll
    Guest
    coollllllll
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