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    Ner Yisroel Bochurim Apologize

    Bochurim from Yeshivas Ner Yisroel in Baltimore sent a hand-written letter to Maryland Rabbi Shmuel Kaplan regretting the Chabad mockery. Full Story

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    Aaron
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    Aaron

    BS”D seems sincere and not only bc of the publicity that put the Yeshiva in a bad light

    Joke
    Guest
    Joke

    Even in the letter, they’re still mocking Chabad, making it try to sound like Tanya… Unbelievable

    Let's be one
    Guest
    Let's be one

    We are all yidden. Let’s stand together..

    #2,let's be dan lkaf zechus
    Guest
    #2,let's be dan lkaf zechus

    that they quoted Tanya sincerely. Perhaps this will be the start of something good in a revealed way.

    To all
    Guest
    To all

    You are all very judgemental with your comments
    And its revolting
    To #2 i hope ur a 3 year old and not an adult bc this is not something a mature adult would see
    Your very very judgmentel #2. And very negative

    #2 Really?
    Guest
    #2 Really?

    Just accept it and move on. You’re not the Rebbe.

    no one signed that letter
    Guest
    no one signed that letter

    Common? Not one rosh yeshiva, mashgiach or something behind these kids? The shliach doesn’t need the apology, it’s them to go to the rebbes ohel which they made fun of is needed to ask mechila

    if thy hand delivered
    Guest
    if thy hand delivered

    a letter to the shliach in town then the story should be put to rest

    i live in baltimore
    Guest
    i live in baltimore

    ner israel he’s been making fun of lubavitch on purim for over 30 yrs only now they got busted

    Levy
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    Levy

    The Yeshiva must assume some responsibility. A signed apology on official stationery is a minimum requirement.

    Yossi.
    Guest
    Yossi.

    The letter was part of the Purim shpiel!!!!!
    Fake news.
    By tomorrow morning the will be back mocking חב’ד

    Shortest letter ever
    Guest
    Shortest letter ever

    This is such a fake letter. No sincerity felt at all. This Yeshiva showed a tremendous amount of hatred and brutal sinas chinam. There has to be some education done with the families of that school. It is truly a sad day for Judaism.

    BH BH
    Guest
    BH BH

    Izzy Clapman for Ch VAAD HAKOHOL

    Israel
    Guest
    Israel

    The 2 boys that delivered it are so sweet I hope the Shlucha invited them in for a cup of coffee and some chocolate Babka.

    Now back to business. The Yeshiva gotta issue an apology and get rid of the bad staff.

    please
    Guest
    please

    for the health and welfare of these rabbeim, parents and kids please go to the ohel and apologize. No good can come to you if you don’t. please take this seriously as you should

    By us even a first grader
    Guest
    By us even a first grader

    Begins writing a page with Bs”d or B”h on top
    Teach your bochurim …

    Larry
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    Larry

    I don’t know what to make of the letter but I definitely would not invite any of these people to my place

    deeply disturbing
    Guest
    deeply disturbing

    I think we should not let them off so easily.We should let the hanhala know in no uncertain terms that something serious is lacking in their hadracha.Is this the outcome of the Torah and mussar which they inculcate in their talmidim?What would R.Yisroel Salanter,after whom the yeshiva is named,say.

    Good for the bochurim but now...
    Guest
    Good for the bochurim but now...

    I am glad someone apologized, however, we don’t know if this was two bochurim, 10? It’s a simple letter which shows the hanhola had nothing to do with it. The administration should apologize and promise to counsel their students to respect other Jews and learn to oppose others in a respectful manner. I thank these bochurim. I am sure they felt true remorse but now the hanhola had to show that they can behave like mentchen.

    As If
    Guest
    As If

    Were we offended? Sure. Do we make fun of the Ltivishe in our homes/communities/schools? All the time. Doesn’t feel so good when the shoe is on the other foot.

    Some of them apologized. That’s more than any of us have done for the jokes we’ve made. Appreciate it for what it is, learn from it, and move on with life.

    The Shlucha
    Guest
    The Shlucha

    #14
    Had a good handle on the situation. No coffee or babka.
    This is a good beginning. More should come forth to substantiate their emes and goodwill for the future.

    Hey
    Guest
    Hey

    I thought something odd , on tne lines the same as nu 2 , wss strange for ner yisroel to express themselves like this
    But yes move on

    Where is the BSD on the Top of the letter
    Guest
    Where is the BSD on the Top of the letter

    Where is the BSD on the Top of the letter
    where are the boy’s signatures or for that matter anybody’s signature

    REGRET OR COVER UP ?
    Guest
    REGRET OR COVER UP ?

    I DON’T THINK AN UNSIGNED LETTER CUTS IT. HAD ALL THE TALMIDIM IN THE GRADE SIGNED IT WOULD HAVE SOME VALIDITY. LACK OF AN OFFICIAL LETTER FROM THE HANHOLA SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. I THINK THE PROPER FORM OF PENANCE WOULD BE FOR EACH OF THE BOCHURIM TO LEARN ONE PEREK OF TANYA.

    Refuse to accept this apology until they go go ohel
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    Refuse to accept this apology until they go go ohel

    This is not our issue to forgive. Neither is it the shluchim of Maryland. It is something they must travel to New York to beg forgiveness by the Ohel. The fact that the Rosh refuses to apologize is evidence that they don’t truly believe that they have done something wrong. It is so sad to see a Rosh Yeshiva sticking up for a felons against chassidus.

    Chas vshalom this could lead to teachers sticking up for students when they do things that hurt others. וד״ל

    Behavior disheartening
    Guest
    Behavior disheartening

    It’s nice to see some boys had charata. Althoug it would be proper for them to apologize in general for the leitzanus of Chabad. What is so disheartening is that this outlook is obviously coming from the way they educated by their hanhala members. Seeing their true colors openly, esspecially when I am a neighbor and work eith these people regularly is terribly upsetting. I wish to think it ‘s not the norm. May we all be tolerant of those that are different from us and stay focused on doing what the Rebbe wants from us!

    Anonymous
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    Anonymous

    The letter sounds like Purim Torah to me.

    I think it’s odd ...
    Guest
    I think it’s odd ...

    … that nobody signed the letter. You think at least the bochurim would sign off as “plony ben plony”

    Apology?
    Guest
    Apology?

    I dont see an apology in the letter!

    Plz take the letter down - it’s not an apology
    Guest
    Plz take the letter down - it’s not an apology

    It’s a joke and more disrespect

    AND no signature and using some Tanya ideas is adding insult to injury

    Waaaaaaait a sec
    Guest
    Waaaaaaait a sec

    Everybody chill. Firstly we must acknowledge the fact that it is extremely difficult and painful to publicly apologize, these bachurim did something brave and deserve credit. Number 2, yes I agree that they should go to the ohel to apologize

    solution
    Guest
    solution

    to show their sincere remorse there should be a weekly achdus chassidus chavrusah between ner yisroel and the zal over there as a recent graduate from our education system, and having been through three yeshivos, we are not innocent of this kind of behavior. in all three yeshivos i’ve been to, the mashpiim made fun of the litvisher lifestyle by almost every single farbrengen. the only thing is we’ve been taught to hide our mockery. to those who were offended grow a thicker skin, while the jokes were definitely distasteful, it’s not hateful. hate is where a person will hurt… Read more »

    To #20
    Guest
    To #20

    You would never ever see one of us hanging funny pictures of their Rabbis(even though some of them were actually really nasty to Chabad and the Rebbe) and definitely we would not make a whole show about them involving several rooms of the Yeshivah (they even used their backyard too! To put up the ‘Ohel’) so please leave your bs for yourself and don’t try to compare us to them. We as Lubavitchers have no time to deal with the darkness, we are busy lighting…

    Halacha / What if??
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    Halacha / What if??

    Assuming that halacha is important to the hanhala then they know that even being nevaze a Yid who is not physically alive to ask mechila then they must go to their kever kal vechomer the Rebbe.

    I would like the Rosh Yeshiva to be honest. If these same actions were done toward Rav Moishe Feinstein ztl or Rav Elyashav ztl would he still say “It was just kids ” ????

    Thirsting
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    Thirsting

    B”H
    Their neshomos are thirsting for chasidus.
    If this is what they write, they don’t understand what chasidus is about.
    Chasidus was started at YU; now bring it to Ner Israel.
    And bring them for a trip to the Ohel to apologize. In the meantime, at least send them letters of the Rebbe and weekly sichos to start learning chasidus. They do not seem to understand what chassidus is about. What hiskashrus to a Rebbe is about. Bring them closer with love -send the students and staff weekly sichos and letters of the Rebbe.

    How would the Rebbe have reacted to this fiasco?
    Guest
    How would the Rebbe have reacted to this fiasco?

    With great sadness, undoubtedly. But not anger. Sadness because these boys are so ignorant and misguided (and likely full of hate), to have done what they did. Sadness because they will never know what it feels like to help a fellow Yid – who was not as fortunate to be born into Torah and Mitzvos – to do a simple mitzvah like put on tefillin or hear the megillah on Purim . Sadness because, while their grandparents were in Litvisher Yeshivos working so hard with the self centered goal of becoming gedolim, our grandparents were in Russia risking their lives… Read more »

    Rebbe
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    Rebbe

    They went personally to the Sheliach
    Sheliach shel Odom KeMoso
    Don’t interfere between the Rebbe and the Shluchim
    We in Chabad don’t own the Rebbe
    Maybe the Rebbe owns us more likely
    Each Chassidus does not in Chabad tradition need to “protect” the Rebbe
    Allow the Rebbe’s brochos to permeate all Benei Yisroel
    Rebbe hardly needs your help and certainly not nasty mean comments
    Just to tell you guys that Ner Yisroel is one of the most respected mosdos and has been since inception
    That detracts nothing from Tomchei Temmimmim to say this and acknowledge
    Hope this message gets published!!!!!!

    The hanhola and the bochurim should go to the ohel to ask mechila
    Guest
    The hanhola and the bochurim should go to the ohel to ask mechila

    If this is an example of what their torah study inspires them to do, n

    Is an apology good enough?
    Guest
    Is an apology good enough?

    We have to remember that the Rebbe cares more about what they did to themselves. They don’t have to go to the Ohel, but they should do outreach or something to honor the Rebbe. That’s a true apology.

    Not true!
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    Not true!

    To those who say that Lubavitch does the same mockery in reverse, not true. We may make light of a mannerism that is foreign to our own upbringing and style in a camp skit or something but never personally insulting their leaders or even the masses of litvish yidden. I never saw a mockery of R Kanievsky, R Shteineman, etc. If we ever did that in our yeshivas, our roshe yeshivos and mashpiim would whip us into shape quickly and certainly apologize if it were to happen and become public knowledge. The Rebbe would certainly not tolerate his chassidim engaging… Read more »

    MRS PERL ARBOR
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    MRS PERL ARBOR

    THE MENAHEL OF NER YISROEL IS A DISGRACE TO THE NAME OF CHINUCH IF THAT IS ALL HE HAD TO SAY. DISMISSING AN AFFRONT TO OUR REBBE AND MINHOGIM AS A “PURIM SHTICK”

    Near Yisroel
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    Near Yisroel

    After this publicity, I hope parents will think twice of sending their children to a yeshiva like this, especially lack of proper leadership

    The real issue
    Guest
    The real issue

    Very sad that these young boys whom will soon be men are educated in an environment which engrains snd encouragrs so much chullul. May they immediately be able to come close to emes. I personally was raised in a secular environment and can tell u in certain terms that these boys did not come to this on their own ” it takes a village to raise a child” more specifically the klippah then are surrounded in has begun to permeate them. May they know only emes in revealed ways and have to power to break through all the klippot they… Read more »

    the source of the issue
    Guest
    the source of the issue

    being in education being a father of many children with many grandchildren and coming from a family that business was the main focus even at the table
    the problem is not with the children or students..they are sponges..they are echoing a tone they have heard..the leadership of these boys communities and their homes is the source of this mockery..or disrespect or disunity..the leaders need to take responsibility for their students actions ..
    as i shared in education the teacher
    in the home the parents
    and in business the CEO
    are repwsonsable for what happens under their leadership

    That is apology?
    Guest
    That is apology?

    Who wrote the letter? It is not signed by anyone. It is not on stationery from the school. Another Purim joke.

    Kinah brings sinah
    Guest
    Kinah brings sinah

    Just looking around at peulos of Shluchim and Chabad Chassidim over Purim/ker ah velt/ it is obvious that in one day The Rebbes koach is with us and continues to give us unimaginable kochos.
    If you cannot beat em join em!

    apology?
    Guest
    apology?

    I did not see that on the letter.

    Heshy
    Guest
    Heshy

    I am not t a Lubavitcher ,but I hold of all rabbonim. This is what Rabbi Avigdor Miller ztl thought. He held of every gadol.

    "We and others in yeshiva were not happy about the "Purim shtick" that was done."
    Guest
    "We and others in yeshiva were not happy about the "Purim shtick" that was done."

    Thus the ones writing the letter were not the perpetrators!

    Stand on a chair
    Guest
    Stand on a chair

    As the Rebbe always stressed, there needs to be a horaah in avodah. Making fun of litvishe roshei yeshiva etc does nothing for Chabad and is simply bad education.
    If we want to be great, stand on a chair.

    VAYEHI
    Guest
    VAYEHI

    Biymei
    HaRebbi miLubavitch,
    Biymei- lashon Tzara,
    People opposed
    The Rebbe,
    Chutzpa reigned
    In the land

    Chassidei HaRebbe
    Were incensed,
    They refused
    To bow,
    They stood
    Their ground,
    Until “they”
    Disavow

    A slight turn,
    A letter of regret,
    Was sent
    To inform,
    That Purim shtick
    Truly sick,
    Is bizayon
    And shtus,
    Get a grip

    Yidden in golus,
    Wake up,
    Enemies enough,
    Purim a Holy-day.
    Iysh lrayayhu-
    Today,
    Tomorrow,
    Moshiach-
    Do not
    Delay

    #15 TOTALLY CORRECT
    Guest
    #15 TOTALLY CORRECT

    The sooner The better.
    It is very critical to act immediatelly
    There are known stories, real names/people

    Skeptic
    Guest
    Skeptic

    There are legitimate differences in the approach and avodah of Chassidim and others. Each side needs to accept the truth and virtues of the other side and not be so convinced that their way is the only way. You can be a true emesdik tzaddik and/or talmid chochom without having any relationship with your rebbe or chassidus.

    Our focus is much different
    Guest
    Our focus is much different

    Ashreinu
    Our boys were busy before Purim packing thousands of mishloach manos for mivtzoyim, practicing to Lein the Megillah, learning about Purim, planning their routes… I barely saw my boys on Purim they were so busy with mivtzoyim Boruch Hashem! We are SO LUCKY that our chabad boys are busy with productive and beautiful things!!!
    Our boys build floats for parades, make signs to spread more light, and invest their energies in bringing Moshiach. THANK YOU REBBE!!!!!

    @#54
    Guest
    @#54

    How true! We should appreciate what the Rebbe has given us, and pity the yidden who aren’t as privileged to get the amazing chinch our boys get.

    Lets Be Honest with our own behavior
    Guest
    Lets Be Honest with our own behavior

    In all the camps and yeshivas I have attended, standard protocol is to make fun of “Snags”. How is that any better? Such behavior is taken for granted.

    We need to look inside and realize how it now fees to be the butt of the joke.

    to those who wrote the apology...
    Guest
    to those who wrote the apology...

    good for you! it was the right thing to do and puts you a cut above those who still insist on making light of the incident. for sure the Aibershter remembers l’tova those who seek to create shalom among His people. a freilichen shushan purim to you.

    Not the same #20!
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    Not the same #20!

    Yes, there is much unncecessary litvish bashing but the other comment someone made is also correct. I seldom heard people make very nasty comments about other Gedolim. Even R’ Shach, who had strong things to say against the Rebbe, I only ever heard criticized in Tanya lashon. I think that was wrong too but Ner Yisroel bochurim were saying nasty low life things about the Rebbe. That’s shocking to me. Good for the bochurim who went to apologize but it isn’t that courageous like some other commentator thinks. They didn’t sign their name. This whole thing was pathetic but I… Read more »

    their disdain for Lubavitch/Tanya ...
    Guest
    their disdain for Lubavitch/Tanya ...

    comes from their leadership.
    a letter like this is not fixing the core of the problem.
    I feel bad for them that their Yiddishkeit allows them to mock other Jews to the extent that it has become so much a part of their thinking, that it passed as entertainment in their well reputed school. sad.
    in my work environment, a litvish colleague remarked about Tanya as “not valid”. the gyva is shocking…

    Relax!
    Guest
    Relax!

    I’m a hat and jacket wearing, chitas and Rambam learning Lubavitcher chossid, And I thought the display was funny and good humor…

    Yes 59 - the gyva is absolutely shocking...
    Guest
    Yes 59 - the gyva is absolutely shocking...

    The apology letter seems inauthentic to me but knowing the age of the boys, I’m actually okay with it. What I am NOT okay with is the leadership not stepping forward with a MUCH stronger apology.

    Also not okay with me is the fact that it’s obvious this only “blew up” because they got caught on social media. How many other schools are doing this with abandon? They haven’t been “caught” so it doesn’t exist?

    Nebach on them
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    Nebach on them

    A real rachmanus on these boys that they are so misguided and are involved in such stupidity. A life infused with chassidus leaves no room for such baseless hatred. A real real shame

    Focus on the good
    Guest
    Focus on the good

    Instead of getting all worked up about what was done, we must focus on our good. As number 54 stated, we are busy preparing for Purim by practicing megillah, mivtzoyum, preparing mishloach manos, and so on. This is an amazing thing and we should continue to do this. We must learn from the yeshiva how not to behave. I haven’t witnessed mockery of the litvishe people, but if Chabad people do mock them, then this story should be used as an awakening. We don’t like being mocked, we shouldn’t mock other Jews. When we were given the Torah we were… Read more »

    Another way of looking at it, from YW
    Guest
    Another way of looking at it, from YW

    1) They came in person, ready to face Rabbi Kaplan. 2) Unless I am mistaken, no one has reported that the boys who came to the Kaplan house showed anything other than genuine remorse and respect (no sarcasm or obnoxious smirking, giggling, etc.). 3) They wrote a note that included “speaking our language” — including terminology from Chabad Chasidus. If they were not proficient at that, it’s not necessarily an attempt to be unkind or show disrespect: quite the opposite, likely! I personally think that this should be viewed as a sincere attempt to right their wrong. This is a… Read more »

    The proof is in the pudding
    Guest
    The proof is in the pudding

    There are three events coming up in the coming months to see if they really changed their ways.

    1) יא ניסן, the Rebbe’s birthday.

    2) סעודת משיח, last day of Pesach.

    3) ל”ג בעומר (parade).

    If they mark those occasions as is done in Crown Heights, then we will know for certain that they have changed.

    Apologize
    Guest
    Apologize

    Defaming the Lubavitcher Rebbe is more dangerous than playing with fire. The principal must come out and publicly apologize! This is a disgrace and should not be tolerated in a “Torah institution.”
    This shameful occurrence is just a result of the way some Jews view other Jews.
    The doors of Teshuva are always opened, but it requires the responsible parties to take the appropriate action and apologize.

    Rachmanus
    Guest
    Rachmanus

    I honestly have only Rachmanus for these bochurim. Mocking a tzadik or praising the tzadik doesnt change the tzadik. Really, who cares? It’s like if a mentally ill person yells at you in the street. It’s a reflection of a pathetic disconnect from any Jewish values and learning. What a sad, sad, state of mind and heart. What kind of chinuch-less chinuch did they receive? I feel for them. They are innocent minds that have been inculcated with hate and with apathy. I pity them and their parents. How sad. Like many thousands of other Chabad bochurim, my boys were… Read more »

    To 64
    Guest
    To 64

    Honestly, it’s not our place to forgive them. Let them go to the Ohel to ask for forgiveness. We can feel compassion for them and their twisted chinuch and be kind to them and understand that they are sweet boys with misguided mechanchim. But if they ask ‘us’ for forgiveness, they’ve missed the point. They haven’t hurt us; they have only hurt themselves. And they dirtied themselves by mocking a tzaddik hador. If I was their parents, I would drive them to the Ohel myself. This is no joke. I would fast and go to the Ohel and give tzedaka… Read more »

    Anonymous
    Guest
    Anonymous

    A group of bochurim went to give shalach manos to the Kaplans. And one of them quickly wrote a handwritten letter. Anyway, what does Shmuel Kaplan have anything to do with this? Did they make a mockery of him specifically? Could he apologize for all lubavitchers and other Jews and for the Rebbe? Were they expecting that the Kaplans will inform COL that they gave shalach manos to them?

    40/46/48 all on to something
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    40/46/48 all on to something

    40-having experience in both camps the sina isn’t 2 way! 99.9% of Lubavitchers have zero clue what N.I. stands for. Many Bochrim there engage in Intense Torah learning by day and college at night, which has identified NI as tilting more to the left in the Yeshivisher world. Even less know is the fact that the founder of N.I.- Rabbi Ruderman’s -father was a Lerned chossid of the Rebbe Rashab. I’ve heard that the Rebbe once (obliquely) addressed the introduction the sr. Rabbi Ruderman made between the young Yaakov Yitchok and the Rebbe Rashab…lamenting (in intense pique) the fact that… Read more »

    HOW
    Guest
    HOW

    on earth can any Lubavitcher shrug this off as just a Purim joke? This involves our Rebbe!

    skeptic
    Guest
    skeptic

    let’s see them move hours away from any semblance of a frum community (shlichus) then we’ll talk about apologies

    One more point
    Guest
    One more point

    I imagine this was done as a form of “marbim b’simcha”& that is truly sad. If this is the “hachana” for Purim, imagine how empty Purim itself is. Ahreinu Ma Tov Chelkeinu! May they be zoche to come to Chassidus!

    To #53
    Guest
    To #53

    Anyone who thinks he can be a “true emesdik tzadik or talmid chacham WITHOUT any relationship to his Rebbe or Chasidus” is called a “Tzsdik in pelz”
    Ask someone to explain it to you

    Disgusted
    Guest
    Disgusted

    The problem is, it was on school premises, seen by this Rabbi Cook & teachers, and was allowed to stay up. The only reason it was taken down was because of publicity. The fact that the Principal was more angry at the publicity than at the display speaks volumes. Anonymous letters don’t cut it for me – even ones that are apparently decent. If these boys don’t have the courage to sign their names, the letter is worthless. Unfortunately, the anti-Chabad movement from these misnagdim is encouraged in their schools. Ner Yisroel is not some dinky little dump of a… Read more »

    Naftoli uk
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    Naftoli uk

    I am of the opinion that nobody in Lubavitch has the power to forgive and forget any insults or abuse other than the victim. So going to the ohel and asking mechila is the most obvious thing. Also it seems to me that the danger of being insulting to the Rebbe (or any of the” gdolim”for that matter )was not made clear to these talmidim by their mechanchim. The apology has been made because a group of yidden are upset. The avera of venosi Lo sooir applies even leachar misa. The’s boys should have it explained to them that they… Read more »

    i was sad to see  the display go...
    Guest
    i was sad to see the display go...

    about time NER YISROEL had a pic of the Rebbe on the wall , a mikva , some mivzoyim going on there , Hiskashrus with the rebbe , a yechi sign etc!
    the place looked so much better !!!!

    sad to see it go #2
    Guest
    sad to see it go #2

    forgot to add
    the best way to respond is to present them wirh a set of igros kodesh and likkutei sichos for their yeshiva … and tell them to put the pic of the Rebbe back !

    Sorry
    Guest
    Sorry

    I am a bochur at Ner Yisroel who actively participated in this shtick and was very involved therein. I want to apologize and perhaps clarify a few misunderstandings. 1. This shtick was done by not all, but some of the 54 members of the N.I. 11th grade, in the middle of the night. No one else knew or helped. The hanhala was taken completely off guard when they walked in for shacharis. 2. This shtick was not done with any hate in mind. I personally have a lot of respect for chabad activities as well as for the Rebbe. The… Read more »

    Mig
    Guest
    Mig

    This is not an apology.

    To 64
    Guest
    To 64

    Your comments are excellent, however Chabad back
    In 92/95 years created a huge schism in the frum
    World with the Moshiach schtick. I have also been in the
    presence of many shluchim who unceasingly
    Bash the , “ stupid litvaks who daven the wrong
    Nusach”. There are many examples like this. Point is is
    Many Lubavitchers don’t love every yid as they say they do.
    It’s a two way street my friend. And yes NI should ask mechilla from the Rebbi.

    To  #74
    Guest
    To #74

    I said a person can be a true tzaddik and talmid chacham without a relationship to YOUR rebbe or his chassidus..

    Does the Rosh think by calling Collive he is exempt from his responsibility
    Guest
    Does the Rosh think by calling Collive he is exempt from his responsibility

    The fact that the institution did not send out a formal letter with a stationary and the signature of the Rosh Yeshiva is a complete chutzpah to Lubavitch. Every Lubavitcher should be personally offended that the only haphazard form of apology was a phone call to Collive.
    Collive does a great service to Lubavitch but by no means to they represent it. NI has personally offended every lubavitcher and they need to formally apologize by writing a letter addressed to Lubavitch as a klal.

    Get in with it, it’s over.
    Guest
    Get in with it, it’s over.

    83, grow up. They formally apologized. Get on with it.
    This was not a Ner issue but a private one at Ner. Over

    shame ! shame ! shame!
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    shame ! shame ! shame!

    Shame on the students,shame on the school, shame on the parents and shame on the teachers and administrators who would tolerate such a disgusting action.

    action plan
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    action plan

    Ner Yisroel should be gozeir a taanis, and have a special kinnus where Lubavitchers address the entire yeshiva about the Rebbe and Chasidus, at the conclusion of which a picture of the Rebbe is placed permanently in front of the Beis Medrash and hundreds of nusach Ari siddurim are brought there for the talmidim.

    Follow up sessions to be held monthly for the next year, until the transition to a fully Chabad institution is complete.

    ATT Ner Yisroel Bachurim
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    ATT Ner Yisroel Bachurim

    For the furture, I have composed a list of normal and highly less destructive and hateful Purim schtick if you’re in need of some extra ideas. I have also composed a general encyclopedia of things you can do with your free time besides mocking Chabad. Please see my website: thingstodowheyourenotchabad.com **It is my personal opinion that Mission Purim Schtick in all Chabad Yeshivas should be annulled, aborted, ended, confiscated, obliterated. It has no source and is completely out of line with many life perspectives that Chassidus teaches us ie bichol drochecha doeihu ie there’s no such thing as checking yourself… Read more »

    Re: Get in with it, it’s over
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    Re: Get in with it, it’s over

    It wasn’t a formal apology. It was written by a talmid in a satirical manner if I may add. You can’t have your cake and eat it. The yeshiva cant be blamed because it was an amateur act of a talmid but then you say that the amateur act of a talmid is a formal apology by the institution. I do agree that we should get over it because it’s not our business as chassidim to dwell on negativity. We gave the admin countless opportunities to do the right thing and formally issue an apology, but they clearly refuse. At… Read more »

    For all the negative voices
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    For all the negative voices

    How do you imagine the Rebbe would react to a move in the direction of shalom?
    Would the reaction be to reject or encourage?
    How are you reacting?
    What is your ultimate goal?
    What motivates your position?

    Who needs an apology? It was a joke..
    Guest
    Who needs an apology? It was a joke..

    I don’t know why everyone got so upset and offended. Just some lame jokes, move on.

    Why are you going against the Rebbe?
    Guest
    Why are you going against the Rebbe?

    What is with the attackers here? As has been mentioned previously, the Rebbe said that nowadays there are no more מתנגדים, just ניט חסידים. So why are you making such a big ruckus like you discovered a whole nest of Misnagdim when the Rebbe said there are no Misnagdim now?

    Why are you going against the Rebbe??

    Wake up people
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    Wake up people

    This anti Chabad attitude is nothing new. We lived in a frum upstate community over twenty five years ago. My son was in elementary school and got into a fight with a boy who ripped up a picture of the Rebbe and was mocking my son’s belief.
    Guess who got into trouble? My son for hitting. Of course nothing happened to the other boy(s). Where does the hate come from? The adults of course.

    Uncle Mendel
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    Uncle Mendel

    I could just throw up from some of these opinions, especially from “Black Hatted, Chitas saying;;;l;” etc. That letter sounds like it came out of a Microsoft Word Template. Lots of key apology words, but no apology or to whom, and saying nothing.

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