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    Ner Israel Removes Purim Mockery

    The principal of the Ner Yisroel high school in Baltimore told COLlive.com a Purim exhibit on Chabad was "kids misbehaving." Full Story, Video

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    The school is responsible
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    The school is responsible

    The school is responsible for the chinuch of these children, and should not dismiss such behavior as “mischievous teens”.
    The Rebbe is the Nasi Hador and to make a mockery is playing with Fire. Let the “mechanechs” encourage the children to make a cheshbon nefesh and do a sincere teshuvah along with the themselves !

    The entire school and school grounds was used to do this evil
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    The entire school and school grounds was used to do this evil

    The class rooms the front door the yard outside.
    The families and Yeshivah is guilty.
    Kos She Brocho to ghosts must stop as well guys but that is only a small crazy part of Chabad and if we did not keep who would?

    Symptom or cause
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    Symptom or cause

    This is simply a symptom of a much larger core issue. Primarily that the leadership of these yeshivas do not teach or at the very least show considerable respect to chassidus Chabad in general, and the Rebbe in particular.

    Berel
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    Berel

    I missed the memo. I was supposed to be offended?

    This is just Wrong and disgusting!
    Guest
    This is just Wrong and disgusting!

    I would never see such disgrace about other Gedolim!
    I think our students are taught A LOT more Derech Eretz!
    The school should be ashamed of themselves!

    Thank you Izzy
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    Thank you Izzy

    Thank you izzy for standing for what right and doing the right thing.

    Puh-lease
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    Puh-lease

    Shouldn’t be on social media? but it should be allowed to happen? This is a time when you can’t hide anymore. It’s all out in the open. Dark education brings dark action. Disgusting, as is the reaction of the Yeshiva. Is this what our future “gedolim” are being taught? They should be ashamed of themselves and completely revamp the “leadership” there.

    rebbe will help
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    rebbe will help

    the rebbe will take care of them

    Why post these pictures???
    Guest
    Why post these pictures???

    Why are you posting these despicable pictures? The fact that this is the chinuch they are giving these children is of course terrible and they will be accountable for it, buy why post the pictures of this shmutz???

    Honestly
    Guest
    Honestly

    Having fun at the expense of Chabad…
    But honestly the only disrespectful thing in there was the acronym they spelled out for the Rebbe…other than that it’s all realistic

    they display life as they see it …life that is foreign to them …
    Going to the mikva haaa haa
    Doing Mivtzoyim haaa haaa
    Wearing a hat haaa haaa
    Having a Rebbe haaa haa
    And he’s even honored with a special chair haaa haa
    And even believe that when they write , their Tefillos go straight to heaven HA

    All so different from the life they know . I would call it ignorance , not hate.

    It's Purim....
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    It's Purim....

    Let’s get over it and like the dude said – let’s accomplish what Chabad is capable of accomplishing.

    We must learn from Reb Shmuel Munkes, Rabbi Gershon Mendel Garelik, Rabbi Shimon Lazaroff, Rabbi Alter Tenenbaum and from many other wonderful Chasidim to NEVER take ourselves TOO seriously.

    we must be more active
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    we must be more active

    we must do all we can to stop fights
    may we have the coming of moshiach!!!!!!!!

    That is distugusting
    Guest
    That is distugusting

    Why would enyone do that about OUR REBBE

    I just called and spoke with the Rosh Yeshivah
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    I just called and spoke with the Rosh Yeshivah

    Call (410) 484-7200 and ask for the Rosh Yeshivah if you feel this was a issue.

    Awareness
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    Awareness

    When I called the yeshiva to bring the to their attention the distinguished Rabbi Shftel dismissed it as just a Purim Shpiel. This was a full week ago. Frum children should know and be taught better to respect other Gedolim just as we would hope our students and children would not poke fun at any Litvishe Gedolim.

    to #11
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    to #11

    does not mean it is right

    Disgusting
    Guest
    Disgusting

    A formal apology must be made to the entire world Jewish community. This is a true Chillul HaShem of major proportion.
    Its time to start teaching Mussar and stop feeding hate. We must hold the leadership of Ner Israel responsible and accountable. A GRAVE YARD ON THE FRONT CAMPUS????? Haman would have been very proud!!

    and?
    Guest
    and?

    14, what did he say?

    תלמידי חכמים מרבים שלום בעולם
    Guest
    תלמידי חכמים מרבים שלום בעולם

    מי שאינו מרבה שלום אינו תלמיד חכם אלא תלמיד טיפש

    Shtus
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    Shtus

    This generation is all about shtus.
    Use it for kelipa or kedusha. The choice is each of ours

    pic of zmani tefila
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    pic of zmani tefila

    funny how the latest time for shachris on the sign is 2:00 pm

    18
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    18

    You call and find out.

    To  #18 If you do not like what they did call up.
    Guest
    To #18 If you do not like what they did call up.

    You call and find out. The Rabbi spoke with me for few minutes and if you voice your complaints maybe they will get the message.

    Angry with the Menahel more than anyone...
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    Angry with the Menahel more than anyone...

    This was childish and offensive. The Menahel’s attitude is pathetic. His reaction should be “this was wrong,” “we will talk to our students about showing respect to other Jews and respect to other communities’ gedolim,” “we apologize on behalf of our students.” Definitely NOT: “these were just kids horsing around, back off will you, how dare you publish these private photos!” This will blow over in a couple of days but it leaves a horrible impression. The Menahel should have responded appropriately. Shame on him. I encourage others to call the school and voice your disapproval. (Then, let’s make sure… Read more »

    Ironic
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    Ironic

    The irony here is that when any of their talmidim walk into a chabad house around the world, they are welcomed with open arms.
    BH we do as our Rebbe taught us.
    Moshiach Now!

    The Rebbe will take care of them
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    The Rebbe will take care of them

    Forty years ago a shliach put up a menorah in the town square of a small city, and a non-frum Jewish lady became extremely upset and wrote letters of protest to the local newspaper. The menorah stayed. A few years later, the lady’s daughter married a Jewish boy and moved to a foreign country. There the husband started learning with a Chabad shliach and the couple became frum B”H. The Rebbe took care of everything.

    just  what is  needed
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    just what is needed

    this is perfect;;great expression of what torah yidden should be seeing each day..and stop the cult life that is disgraceful

    #21
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    #21

    Totally agree,

    The only part that was offending was the” the Reba…”

    ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE
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    ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE

    Hey, look at it this way: The Alter Rebbe writes in Tanya Perek 2, that פושעים ומורדים, rebellious sinners receive their nurture from Hashem through the Nasi HaDor, the Rebbe in a “backwards” way, בחינת אחוריים. So they still get hashpo’o and the Rebbe still takes care of them, albeit indirectly. So… as i see it (yes, it’s 100% wrong, sinful, dangerous etc.) BUT, hey Rebbe awareness and consciousness in seeping in. On Purim, when we rise above differences, עד דלא ידע, photos of the Rebbe were displayed on Ner Yisroel campus! Who would have thought 770, the Rebbe, mivtzoim… Read more »

    sruly
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    sruly

    very true like everything you say

    this is a huge chutzpah
    Guest
    this is a huge chutzpah

    living in 2018 this should not be happening. Contrary to what this rosh yeshiva said in the conversation. I have never seen a chabad yeshiva put on such a display in order to mock, even the biggest misnagd.

     What A Disgrace on Ner Yisroel
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    What A Disgrace on Ner Yisroel

    Where was the administration , the mechanchim etc. when the students didn’t now any better than shame themselves
    and shame the name of their yeshiva. This must be the
    spirit of certain individuals – Hamans!!!.
    Boruch Hashem there is lately much achdus and respect between the different sectors of Am Yisroel.
    May it continue and be strenghthened. PURIM SAMEACH

    Pointing the finger
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    Pointing the finger

    First reaction should not be to accuse others of wrongdoing. He should have just apologied instead of saying that others are culpable of the same sins

    two reactions
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    two reactions

    1—- you can tweet your displeasure to @NIRCnews

    2—- granted some of it is out of bounds. but who here would like their private thoughts and speech about the non-lubavitch world made public? the slur ‘snags’ was invented by chabad to insult the others; it’s no less demeaning than the ‘chabadsker’ slurs the others coined…

    To 29
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    To 29

    Well said. Thanks for that prospective. Let’s remember not to make things worse for these kids chas visholom. Your opinion counts so forgive them for their foolishness and try to only say good things and think good thoughts about every you.

    Disgraceful
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    Disgraceful

    Thank you Sruly for informing the public of this hateful act.
    These boys and teachers, principals are no different than those wearing swastikas.

    I think you all missed it!
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    I think you all missed it!

    The real reason they took it down is because their 11th graders don’t know how to spell: 1) Moireinu and 2) “Lifnei” in Ahsrei instead of “Livnei”.

    If I was the administrator of Ner Yishmael, I would bury my face in shame that my 11th graders are such incredible Amei Haaretz!!! ROTFL!

    No one there noticed that someone (or maybe everyone) there says Ashrei 3 times a day (allegedly) and is saying it WRONG!!!!!

    AZAH GELECHTER!!! Happy Purim!

    @31
    Guest
    @31

    You hit the nail on the head but miss the point

    We don’t dress Tomchei Temimim up in a ner Yishmoel clown suit because 1. it would a profound disrespect to Tomchei Temimim and 2. we’d never think of it. We just don’t hold the litivish identity (as distinct from the Yidden who identify as litvish) in high enough regard to make a mocking display of.

    We are taught from birth to look beyond the superficial. ‘Litvish’ is false consciousnesses. They’re just frum Jews, no matter what they like to believe. ‘Litivish’ doesn’t rate a purim shpiel.

    Kids
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    Kids

    Kids who are raised in Frum Homes with Yiras SHamayim would not do this.

    mezuzos
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    mezuzos

    if they had a Mezuzah checking station ,They should check their Mezozos ( personally I think they need to be fixed)

    Let's Keep It Light
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    Let's Keep It Light

    I think Ner Yisroel looks infinitely better with pictures of the Rebbe all over!

    Ner YIsroel Baltimore?
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    Ner YIsroel Baltimore?

    Is this “mechina” related to the Ner YIsroel Baltimore??

    Disgrace
    Guest
    Disgrace

    You would never see this mockery of gedolim in a lubavitch school. The kids and teenagers know better and ahavas yisroel and derech eretz is more ingrained. Even if there is differences of hashkafa, there is a general attitude of derech eretz and ahavas yisroel that would never allow lubavitch kids to act like this. I feel sorry for the kids in this school that felt completely fine doing this…

    Neturei karta
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    Neturei karta

    Unfortunately we should not respond or acknowledge such debased behavior. Klipa can only be dealt with through uprooting. How sad that Chabad who is built upon mesiras nefesh should be scoffed at. These are people who have their Judaism confused. Vnahapoch hu.

    So wrong
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    So wrong

    I’m sure the menahel thought it was funny. If the kids felt comfortable enough to completely turn the entire yeshiva into a mockery of chabad & the rebbe it must be something that the menahel are ok with & maybe even talk about or joke about

    Ner Yisrael?
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    Ner Yisrael?

    more like Ner Yishmael

    37 Its so bad
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    37 Its so bad

    I’m with u I caught it to

    #34
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    #34

    Please let me know which of our moisdos would allow a blatant anti snag carnival. Sure there are some of us who need to brush up on our Ahavas Yisrael, but it would never fly for one of our moisdos to make a public anti anyone carnival. If Chas Veshalom it happened there would be Lubavitch wide condemnation.

    just like the kosher buchers in nyc
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    just like the kosher buchers in nyc

    wanted shalom rubaskin out of business, they had successed beyond there wildest dreams, there is nothing funny about this, it will come back to them, hashem runs the world

    It shows how ignorant they are
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    It shows how ignorant they are

    Wow this is so messed up in so many ways. The amount of time spent on this the menahel had to know it was going on. This is what they think of chabad all the hard work & dedication to bringing Jews closer to Torah & mitzvahs all the incredible work chabad does around the world & this is what they boil it all down to. Truly disgusting & sad. Chabad & the Rebbe deserve a lot more resect for all the good we have done in this world. To be mocked for trying to make the world a better… Read more »

    The ohel?
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    The ohel?

    Don’t they also believe in קברי צדיקים?
    Disgusting

    2 comments
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    2 comments

    @45 so true but it’s because of the ideology of @38 , which i guess is what chabad believes–that on the bottom are nebach , non-chassidim. then above them are stam chassidim. and at the pinnacle of creation, chabad. you can’t have such a theology without making enemies. and ‘litvishe’ were there for a 1000 years before the Besht

    Unacceptable
    Guest
    Unacceptable

    Everyone should call the yeshiva & complain. They shouldn’t be mocking & making fun of other Jews. The jewish people should be UNITED this is just divisive & sickening.

    משיח
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    משיח

    דאס איז נאר א סימן צו די התגלות

    Basic spelling of Davening
    Guest
    Basic spelling of Davening

    That is pretty embarrassing! לפני??!!

    Rabbi Cook
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    Rabbi Cook

    With respect, your outrage should not be that it leaked on social media, but rather the lack of derech eretz your student have

    This was full on wrong
    Guest
    This was full on wrong

    They should be ashamed that that’s what their kids spend all time on and this is the message their clearly giving them and kids are just expressing it Don’t try to cover up as kids Their your students and you’re responsible for these kids and they turned over the ENTIRE school so the hanhola clearly saw and was part of it otherwise if it was taken down right away wouldn’t have pics etc I feel very bad for them that that is what their students are busy with and they aren’t babies 11th grade it’s a shame oish may Hashem… Read more »

    People!
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    People!

    Wow i am chabad and i do find this pretty funny U have to admit All u people who are saying its disrespectful and making those boys sound like there criminals your over exaggerating… That is what they know of chabad and we should look at ot differently now ” how can they do this to lubavitch?” But “look how much they know about lubavitch? ” Those boys made a shtick So wt? I dont see this as disrespectful at all And all you people saying its how there chinuch is or blaming it on the heads of the school… Read more »

    Friend
    Guest
    Friend

    Very, very sad.

    What?
    Guest
    What?

    Were all judging the hanhola so quickly

    Misnagid
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    Misnagid

    this seems to be chilul Chabad not chilul hashem

    To # 58
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    To # 58

    Funny? Did you catch the part where they called the Rebbe a Chamor (donkey) on the “matzeiva?

    The sin
    Guest
    The sin

    Of getting caught

    upset
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    upset

    this is really not good! very very upset

    Its purim
    Guest
    Its purim

    Take it easy.

    iojefug
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    iojefug

    just some kids trying to have fun

    To #29
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    To #29

    Great perspective! happy Purim.

    appalled
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    appalled

    this would never be aloud in our moisdos, of course the hanhala knew. and laughed along. and if they are not around enough to know, then let them leave their tv’s and sports and visiting wrong places and get into the yeshiah. it is no secret where they go “for fun”. I know. I grew up with these rosh yeshivas magedei shir etc. They should be trembling in fear of the consequences that will be put upon them, the yeshivah, the kids and the parents. There is be’chira by yidden.

    Erev Rav
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    Erev Rav

    Don’t let them pulled you down, this is a distraction to be angry instead of praying and doing teshuva today b simcha and rejoice later at the Megillah reading, There is no ego with The Rebbe and Hashem has mysterious ways, this might led some people to become Baal Teshuva Lubavitchers ,

    #58 and #65
    Guest
    #58 and #65

    Totally agree with you both

    Teshuva
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    Teshuva

    The best thing would be for the entire class to travel to 770 and the ohel with a guided tour from a important Chosid.

    Reverse roles
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    Reverse roles

    Should be shach or ahron kotler

    A VIEW FROM THE INSIDE
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    A VIEW FROM THE INSIDE

    I taught in a Litvish cheder, and as a “joke” there were Moshiach flags and Yechi yarmulkes aplenty, especially around Purim. Trust me, I’ve seen this from the inside– secretly they’d love to be a part of the action.

    Fun to who? Just More Baseless Hatred!
    Guest
    Fun to who? Just More Baseless Hatred!

    We remain our worst enemy.

    Oh please
    Guest
    Oh please

    Why waste time fighting darkness when you can add light.
    Ofcourse it is very wrong but it’s their problem.
    Yossi Eliav

    Simply put
    Guest
    Simply put

    A) I don’t care what time of year it is or what place in the world you live, laughing and disrespecting another Yid’s way of life in such a public and chaos-arousing way is inexcusable. B) Judaism has many different shitos and ways, that’s the way HaShem designed us, it’s the way He wanted it to be. There’s Sefardim, Ashkenazim, Belz, Satmar, etc etc. Just because we do not keep the same minhagim or shita does not mean we have to seek blood. CV! There’s nothing wrong with serving HaShem differently then another Yid might be serving HaShem. There’s definitely… Read more »

    Are you telling me
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    Are you telling me

    No one told parents what they were working on props and etc and NOT ONE parent called or saw to stop it ??

    To #65
    Guest
    To #65

    Really your going to say “Take it easy” because it’s purim?!
    You should be ashamed of your self.

    Shlichos around the world
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    Shlichos around the world

    Was spelled without the h

    It’s took me a while to figure out that it said kisef hamalchus
    Guest
    It’s took me a while to figure out that it said kisef hamalchus

    Again they missed out the h. What terrible spelling

    resident
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    resident

    WHen I called the big Rav Sheftel last week he quickly hung up saying it was a joke. Without even a sorry. These people have no bushah! The next time they are asking for kosher food in some far location for their vacation they can forget about chabad.These are sick people

    REBBE
    Guest
    REBBE

    they should go to the ohel of the rebbe and ask forgive-ness

    larry
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    larry

    They played with fire I hope they don’t get burnt.No different then the Palestinians teaching their children

    Moshe
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    Moshe

    To number #25 I have people walk through the door who disrespect The Rebbe Threw them out like a dog.Never regretted it for a second

    Five Towns
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    Five Towns

    These so called bnei Torah are not lacking in chassidus, rather the issue is that they don’t take the sifrei mussar that they supposedly study in a serious fashion. Perhaps they need a lubavitcher chossid to give them shiurim in chovos halvovos, mesillas yesharim and hilchos lashon hara. A Freilichen Purim.

    RESPECT EACH OTHER!!!
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    RESPECT EACH OTHER!!!

    WHEN HAMON WANTED YO KILL ALL THE JEWS HE DID NOT CARE ABOUT THEIR AFFILIATIONS OR IDEAS.
    WHEN.HITLER THROW YIDDEN INTO THE FURNACE HE DID NOT ASK IF YOU WERE LITVICH OR CHASIDISH!!!!!
    TIME TO RESPECT EACH OTHER EVEN WHEN WE DON’T AGREE OR SEE EYE TO EYE!!!!
    “BORCHAINU OVINU KOOLONU ” K’ECHOD”

    Don't mess with the rebbe
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    Don't mess with the rebbe

    #65, this is nothing to just accept because it’s purim. I can get over the shtus of making fun of us but calling the Rebbe a chamor and mocking h directly is just beyond chutzpah. Shame on the kids but more a shame on the menahel who seems to be passing this off as no one’s business.
    They should issue an apology

    Sorry... I got caught
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    Sorry... I got caught

    Sadly knowing that the aebischer is watching everything just isn’t enough these days. This menahel has to know that anything can end up on social media, whether you like or not.
    This looks like an elaborate project. Amazed they spent so much time and effort ridiculing a tzaddik and his followers.

    In short
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    In short

    Whoever did it for their own good better make their way to the ohel and ask mechila ASAP

    another mistake
    Guest
    another mistake

    omed al gag- not al gav

    Worst menachel!
    Guest
    Worst menachel!

    Arurim arurim kol….
    Bruchim bruchim kol hachassidim!

    Welcome to the world.
    Guest
    Welcome to the world.

    I grew up in that kind of community. I thought that by now 35yrs later, they had a little more respect. Be careful what you say here, its a public forum. The school allowed it, its a full display, not a small joke. Be proud, ashreinu, and nebach, feel sorry for them.

    what a disgrace
    Guest
    what a disgrace

    shame on ner isreal.They are a “choshesh” onto am yisroel

    Oh gosh
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    Oh gosh

    A few points 1) The first picture. Learn a blessed thing! Chabad doesn’t not sleep in the sukkah because it says Basukos teishvu. Learn the sicha! But no… G-d forbid to be a tiny bit educated. 2) al gav beis hamikdash 🙂 Heaven help us. Please. They’re such idiots it’s out of control. They should be ashamed of themselves and their amaratzus and how they have no sense of pnimius and their entire hanhala should be ashamed of how they’ve EDUCATED their students to speak badly about the Rebbe. The Rebbe is about ten thousand times greater then any other… Read more »

    wow
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    wow

    theyre just jealous

    They spent so much time on this
    Guest
    They spent so much time on this

    Don’t you realize that what they picked up on… Will stay with them forever? This is like eating kashe in tomchei temimim.
    If will after these kids for life. And when they grow up and encounter Chabad, they will remember what they did on Purim, and realize that they were making fun of the most astounding community and Rebbe in the world!

    The coverup/deflection is worse than the crime
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    The coverup/deflection is worse than the crime

    It would be a lot less of an issue if they’d feign concern (they’re clearly not), and accept responsibilty that they failed to have proper oversight of the kids and applogize and say they’ll speak to the kids to stress importance of achdus and respect. It’s clear that lots of time was invested into tgese props, wasn’t just a disrespectful joke. The joke is on tge institution that dragged their own name through the mud, not the Rebbe’s. The Rebbe could handle their disrespect on his broad shoulders.

    this is actually quite funny
    Guest
    this is actually quite funny

    always look at the bright side, its purim!!!

    It’s wrong
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    It’s wrong

    To all you people saying I’m Chabad and I think it’s ok and they didt mean any harm. No you are not Chabad you should not say your chabad your misguided .they were making fun and were extremely disrespectful it is wrong that’s the Emes and they should make a public apology that’s it simply

    Purim Shpil
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    Purim Shpil

    Maybe hang a cross as a Purim Shpil!?
    I guess the Rebbe isn’t so bad, Och Un Vei they display it this wa.y

    To #52
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    To #52

    “and ‘litvishe’ were there for a 1000 years before the Besht“… and guess what, they were a MESS! They had dysfunctional views on beautiful pashute yidden who didn’t know how to learn Torah like Harvard Professors. The yidden in general we’re broken by shabsai tzvi. The above mentioned statement is rediculous. And has no logical implications. Learn some history.
    The Baal Shem Tov cleaned up their mess.
    So yes, the Chassidic Ancestry is what to be proud of.

     Beautiful Display. Signs of the future.
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    Beautiful Display. Signs of the future.

    Many years ago…like in 80s, I learned in a misnagdishe…ok, I’ll be nice…Litvishe Yeshiva and the guys were always laughing about mivtzoim, kiruv, Moshiach, chassidus and everything else the Rebbe taught us. Now, look around. Every Litvish organization and gadol talks about Kiruv, Ahavas Yisroel, Moshiach, chassidus etc… These displays are a vision into the future. All Jews eating in the sukkah even in the rain. Yidden going on mivtzoim with lulav and esrog or chanukah. Yidden going to the Ohel etc. Etc. Remember the story of Rabbi Akiva laughing when he saw the fox coming out of the Koidesh… Read more »

    It's YOUR Test
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    It's YOUR Test

    Are you still going to have Ahavas Yisrael?
    Not descend to Litvak bashing?
    Everyone should look in the mirror and ask what he or she can learn for his or her own avodah. That’s all.
    The Rebbe doesn’t need us to defend him.
    Just do what we should, vezehu.
    A freilechen,

    Crown heights
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    Crown heights

    As a knas the students should learn chassidus once a week. Either Tanya or sichos of the Rebbe’s.

    CH Resident
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    CH Resident

    Chabad /Lubavitch intrigues them. It might not have been done Leshem Shomayim, but it accomplished getting pictures of the Rebbe in their Mesivta.
    About BDE, sad to say, there are many Lubavitchers who say that too.

    Does Chofetz Chayim make an exception for "Humor" or Purim?
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    Does Chofetz Chayim make an exception for "Humor" or Purim?

    I don’t recall that to be true. Since it is impossible for the hanhalah of this Baltimore mosad to “gather all the feathers from the pillow” — that is, to apologize to every single Jew (not just Chabad!) they have offended, this is now between them and Hashem. Of course, a highly-publicized apology would be in order. But really, this is now between them and Hashem. I agree with the one offering to teach Chofetz Chayim, Chovos HaLevavos, etc. to this offender group of Litvishers. Apparently they still don’t get it, including the hanhalah. If someone made fun of the… Read more »

    Rabbi yissocher  frand is the mashgiach there or something
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    Rabbi yissocher frand is the mashgiach there or something

    I’m shocked nothing was done to stop these bochurim from doing this. They spent HOURS AND NO ONE SAID NOTHINGGGGGGG?????????

    i'm really not concerned with what they think of us...
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    i'm really not concerned with what they think of us...

    rather, i’m concerned that there’s so much hatred bottled up there just waiting for the moment when they think they can display it openly with impunity. I suggest their menahalim spend some introspective time analyzing what the ridicule was REALLY all about. one thing he can be sure of: the Aibershter isn’t viewing this behavior as a joke and isn’t laughing.

    From Israel
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    From Israel

    When the Rebbe was nistalek, Schach’s followers danced in the street. Before Auerbach died, his followers were beating up Rabbi & Rebbetzin Havlin over the draft law. They are sickening. I’m sick & tired of seeing these holy shteigeren. They think they are so righteous as they shockle & veyn, but they have no problem pushing women & kids out of the way to get on a bus first. Give up their seats for the elderly? That’s a joke. We complain all the time about the fanatics in Meah Shearim, but this lot are worse. Try driving near the Mir… Read more »

    Misnagid
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    Misnagid

    A freilichen Purim to all my brothers from Chabad lubavitch

    rachamanus
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    rachamanus

    i have rachamanus for the Rabbis of this Yeshiva
    These kids are just korbanos
    Laughing at the Rebbe, was not the smartest thing to do
    Please ,Hashem have rachamanus on them they dont know better

    The preoccupation with Chabad is fascinating to me
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    The preoccupation with Chabad is fascinating to me

    What’s really interesting to me is their preoccupation with Chabad and the Rebbe. There must be some inner turmoil these kids have and some admiration that, unable to express normally, comes out in this type of behavior.

    WoW!
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    WoW!

    A picture of the REBBE hanging in a Litvisher Moised?

    Moshiach Tzeiten.

    To u
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    To u

    #58 ur comment says it all
    Well done
    And everyone you all have to relax!!!!
    #104 that is the worst thing u can do
    U want them to start hating lubavitch?
    People should really think before they speak
    Stop judging

    Reb Yoel from Baltimore
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    Reb Yoel from Baltimore

    Last night a few bochurim showed up collecting money for their (rosh) yeshiva. I asked them about the Purim shtick. These are the first words they told me “we made bizyoinois of chabad.” . Period. It was definitely not ‘accidental’. They knew exactly what they were doing!

    Awesome
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    Awesome

    This is so funny, just take a chill pill and stop behaving like baybies .

    Yes of course it’s disrespectful and all, but look at it this way.....
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    Yes of course it’s disrespectful and all, but look at it this way.....

    These are a bunch of eleventh grade teens who need action in their life like most normal teens….who has action?!? CHABAD!!!!!
    They really want to be part of it….:)
    But I’m totally not excusing them, it was not okay what they did

    Does the Menahel really feel bad?
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    Does the Menahel really feel bad?

    If yes, he would use this as an educational opportunity, and take all the students to the Ohel to ask Mechila in public (as this is the true Halocho.)
    Happy Purim!

    yechi
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    yechi

    In lots of places I go to they make fun of the Rebbe and his chassidim who believe in him… oh, wait a minute, those places are officially Lubavitch! – Time to clean up the mess in our own backyard!!!

    I wonder
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    I wonder

    I wonder how many ner yisroel graduates there are that go to Chabad houses for guidance and yiddishkeit after they went OTD…

    104
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    104

    איז עס מעגלעך אז אויב מען גיבט א קנס אז די קינדער מוזן לערנען.. ?זיי וועלן קוקן אויף קדושה אין א שווערע ליכט…

    נאר עפעס צו טראכטן וועגן

    Article & Comments Are Worse Than Purim Shpeil
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    Article & Comments Are Worse Than Purim Shpeil

    Having taken a look at this article and it’s comments – has a rov been consulted? Are we allowed to post such things publicly? This is a double standard, calling out others, then cursing them out, claiming all sorts of falacies – just because u can comment anonymously. There is nothing new here and u can have whatever perspective of it you would like – positive or negative or neutral – but publicly inciting hatred against another yid is most probably an issur even on Purim. Go hate haman instead. Chabad is about ahavas yisroel and bringing moshiach…not sure how… Read more »

    Protecting our Rebbes honor
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    Protecting our Rebbes honor

    For anyone willing to forgo ones own honor, that’s a choice the individual makes. However, never ever are we permitted to forgo our Rebbes honor. What was done is beyond unacceptable. Hopefully those involved will realize the severity of the action and do teshuva. May Hashem protect klal Yisroel.

    Shameful dismissal
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    Shameful dismissal

    Take responsibility and reprimand your students and reinforce discipline throughout your faculty! Don’t be a sore sport and pretend you had nothing to do with it and act like it’s not a problem!

    Beating around the busy and lying is worst than being quiet and us knowing who’s responsible!

    2 weeks
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    2 weeks

    I’ve seen theses photos about a week or more ago and they’ve been around even before that. This has been up for a while and the hanholo pretend they had nothing to do with this.

    What a fail you fakies.

    I'm Stam saying
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    I'm Stam saying

    Maybe they thought they could fullfil the mitzvah of ad dlo yada with milk.And the chalav akum caused them to behave like that. Ok ok. It was chalav Stam. Whatever.

    Moment of silence
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    Moment of silence

    The chabad shluchim have been advocating for a moment of silence in public schools so that the children can be afraid of the “eye that sees and the ear that hears”. Maybe we can advocate the same thing for the hanahalah of ner yisroel so they can be afraid of Hashem and not of the figurative policeman. i.e social media.

    Sad
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    Sad

    Just really sad….no more words

    @comment 28
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    @comment 28

    I like you. Spot on. That’s the attitude. #letsbefriends give me your number MG 😉

    To 110 (misnagid)
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    To 110 (misnagid)

    To my fellow yid,
    To you too! No worries, plenty of litvaks are actually promoters of achdus even when they hold their nose on some disagreements (within Lubavitch there are multiple hashkafos as well). With time the litvaks that have yet to smell the achdus roses will get with the program.

    For the record
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    For the record

    The word misnaged isn’t a slur. It means opponent to chassidus. A very old term. Even “snag” though slightly less polite is just a derivative of the longer misnaged word. And the definition of snag means “impasse” not exactly a horrible thing to be called, though I admit, in today’s day and age the most polite way to refer to them would be as “litvak/litvish”. Either way, it’s rare for Lubavitchers to have a visceral hatred to a fellow Jew of any other community sect within yiddishkeit. We hate Hamas, not yidden.

    Ner Yisroel is already a Chabad Yeshiva
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    Ner Yisroel is already a Chabad Yeshiva

    The founding Rosh Yeshiva, Rav Ruderman zt”l, was from Chabad roots.

    They should institute mandatory classes in Tanya there, mandatory trips to the Ayhel and 770, appoint a Lubavitcher as mashgiach and mashpia, and a Lubavitcher as Rosh Yeshiva.

    What a disgrace, they don’t accept the malchus of the Rebbe even though their founding Rosh Yeshiva was from Chabad roots. Rav Ruderman zt”l even used to learn Tanya.

    Moshiach now!

    What do you expect?
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    What do you expect?

    What do you expect when the whole Lubavitch constantly makes fun of misnagdim? Just because you don’t show it to them doesn’t mean you don’t feel or say how much fun you make of them and of their gedolim too. So here they’re just letting you know how they feel and it’s Purim. It’s honestly funny and if you find this offensive then the problem is with you not with them. And honestly, have you never heard the saying that imitation is the biggest form of flattery? And besides, how many times have Lubavitchers dressed up as not Lubavitchers on… Read more »

    Honest truth
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    Honest truth

    Lubavitch is disrespectful to Misnagdishe gedaylim. See in the comments here, they say Kotler, Schach, etc.

    Disgusted - Here is the Rabbi's info - HE needs to apologize and fix this
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    Disgusted - Here is the Rabbi's info - HE needs to apologize and fix this

    Rabbi Simcha Cook – ext. 317, home – 410-653-9311, fax – 410-653-9311, e-mail – [email protected]

    I went to Yeshiva in Toronto in the early 2000’s and the local litvish elementary school kids would yell, mock and spit at us. (that’s besides for the yeshiva boys doing similar what encountered). I thought this type of activity was mostly over with, this needs to be addresses. Those schools and families should be dealing with their own community issues -and Balitmore has plenty – not teaching to hate another Jewish community. (sigh)

    horrible
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    horrible

    this is extremely horrible should not be accepted and misnagdim have no basis for their hatred other than that they are jealous and that they are scared of mashiach so they dont do mivtzoyim
    and in the gemara it says you should think of your leader as mashiach

    i dont know what to say.
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    i dont know what to say.

    how could a jewish school do such a thing!

    Ner Yisroel is awesome
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    Ner Yisroel is awesome

    As someone who went to ner the menahel has no idea what the Purim shtick is going to be until after it is up so u guys really shouldn’t be blaming him. And the rosh yeshiva???? Even after it’s up he doesn’t know what it is because he doesn’t have so much to do with the mechina. The one thing I do agree with is that he should have apologized and explained the situation but for you guys to say it’s a bad mosdos that’s just not true

    The point is
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    The point is

    It’s a bad mossad because they have sinah for chabad and made a mockery of the furtherance/outreach/kiruv to yiddishkeit. I don’t know how relevant it is whether the principal/rosh yeshiva knew what the bachurim were doing. It’s an excellent mossad just like Harvard is a great mossad. I’m also pretty sure you can find professors in Harvard that are Talmidim Chachamim. Shame on them.

    To #138
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    To #138

    If you think about it, we really can’t blame the students. They evidently have no first-hand experience with Chabad and obviously have never seen the Rebbe. All their information on Chabad comes from their surroundings. And the one common denominator of all these students is that they go to the same school. It’s therefore rather easy to conclude that this display is reflective of the school in general including the administration. It’s quite clear that the administration and faculty are very much to blame for enabling this to happen. Not just their reaction to it. Hopefully these kids will iyh… Read more »

    Get real
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    Get real

    Set up in classrooms all over the school and we are supposed to believe the Hanhola didn’t know. Where were they? This didn’t happen in 30 minutes. We are emailing the school and suggest everyone does. They should be shivering in fear to condone this kind of hatred. The video is strong and says it all.

    #138
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    #138

    its a pathetic place!! the mere fact that he anwered it that way , shows he has no respect for Torah or Hashem. and i hate that i have to write this on Purim

    In line with 106
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    In line with 106

    When I was in 4th grade in a Litvish cheider I saw all the gedolim pictures on the wall and I asked the rebbi if I could bring in a picture of the Rebbe to join the others. He was very happy to oblige, and I took it home at the end of the year.

    Most people are fine with us and some people don’t like us, and that’s fine too. However, the laws of ahavas yisroel and loshon hara are always in effect.

    Our Bachurim
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    Our Bachurim

    אשרינו מה טוב חלקיו Our Bachurim the same week launched and honored Rabbi Yitzi Hurwitz with over 10,000 Yiddin putting on Teffilin in his honor. This is in addition to their full time occupation in deep Lim mud Hatorah nigleh and Chassidus. I have two Boys in Mesivta, for all the Ner Yisroel students and graduates reading these comments, you should know my boys never spoke or heard in our home, summer camp or Yeshiva anything against any Gadol Batorah and Eidah in Klal Yisroel. This shameful exposure that you hoped to keep for the inside sonei chabad is now… Read more »

    To #134
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    To #134

    I totally agree with you.
    Im not lubavitch and reading the comments really puts me off
    Disgusting

    #123,The Rebbe's honor
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    #123,The Rebbe's honor

    You are absolutely spot on. A chasid has to know his rebbe’s kavod is not subject to Purim shpiels or anything else!

    Grow up
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    Grow up

    It’s just shtick stop crying like a bunch of children.

    Shtick
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    Shtick

    Shtick is made about Donald Trump. Not a Gadol B’yisroel. Get real. This wasn’t an offhand comment of superiority, but something delibirate. Something truly disgusting. The reaction of the principal makes it smell even more. If you have a child in that school, SEND HIM SOMWHERE ELSE!

    Lack of Derech Eretz
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    Lack of Derech Eretz

    I am shocked that the Hanhalah is not taking any responsibility for the grave lack of Derech Eretz of their students. I felt so sad that something so disrespectful can happen in a Frum school. It’s no wonder the boys have such poor Middos, there doesn’t seem to be strong leadership in their school to emulate. Shocking.

    My thoughts
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    My thoughts

    Definetly parts of this is disrespectful. I think though that chabad is above this. Having opposition is not a new idea. Old news. Anything very successful and out there, is a big topic that people think of as worthy of immitating etc. Frankly, I’m quite honored that this is what they associate us with. Mivtzaim…etc. So definetly it was overdone a bit, and talking about the Rebbe is no small thing. But we can see past it (I’m not talking about the disrespect towards the Rebbe) and not let this get us down. Just keep on spreading light and taking… Read more »

    Dugri
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    Dugri

    Show me one real Lubavitcher that goes there.

    Lubavitch in Baltimore has their own separate school.

    We have to be better
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    We have to be better

    As a lubavitcher bachur, a shliach in a yeshiva, this is hard to see. And as a parent I’m sure it’s harder. The younger bachurim and kids who don’t know too much about the history between chabad chassidim and other Jews see these things and question. And then they hate. We can’t deny that we make fun of misnagdim and their rabbonim. Is it justified? No. Do they “start up”? How old are we?! We have to be better than that. Purim is the perfect day to learn this lesson. As Jewish people, we have always been bullied, has that… Read more »

    I live in snag baltimore
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    I live in snag baltimore

    I live in baltimore ner yisroel has been making fun of lubavitch
    For over 30 yrs. now they finally got busted

    Dont mess with the REBBE
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    Dont mess with the REBBE

    when the yidden showed such spontanious simcha /achddus and ahavas chinom at the sudden and miraculous release of Sholom Mordechai Rubashkin we all felt the footsteps of Moshiach SO the satan got busy and with the help of RUACH SCHTUS a bunch of kids in a good yeshivah fell into a trap sowing Discord and Sinas Chinom AGAINST the REBBE and his Chassidim whose whole purpose is to bring the GEULAH NOW THIS was not a Purim joke this was VERY SERIOUS and TERRIFYING.. The hanhalah has to fix this They can fix this AND DON’T MESS WITH THE REBBE

    My rebbe
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    My rebbe

    What a disgrace. My Rebbe told me a story tonight. Many years ago on Purim he met a yid. This yid worked in ner Yisreol (not sure deserves such a name) for 15 years and during the whole time no one ever approached him to speak to him. My rebbe approached him and bh he put tephilin on and read him the megila. 15 years!!!! Ner Yisroel should be ashamed of themselves.

    to number 58....
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    to number 58....

    you are not chabad if you can let and even think its ok, that the rebbe should be made fun of like that…!
    what makes you chabad? do u learn sichos?, do you say chitas?? do you know what chabad is?

    Cool
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    Cool

    I have to say it’s super original and creative.
    And btw we make fun of them all the time too. How many people wore long peios, shtreimels… There is just a lot more about us to make fun of.
    It isn’t right but it gave me a laugh! That’s what Purim is about.

    152
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    152

    I couldn’t agree more. So because they don’t have ahavas yisroel or derech eretz, we should stoop to their level? This just pushes the geulah away. We have to focus on what good WE can do. Not on the not good OTHERS do. Lchaim!

    what!
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    what!

    exuse me how would you react if we made an exibit about your rebbe you wouldnt like it you respect you rebbe hopefully and we respect ours tremendosly.next time you have time on your hands do something usefull or at least respectfull!

    to number 157
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    to number 157

    Disgusting. Its about time you have respect for Gedoli Yisroel

    rude and absulutly pathetic
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    rude and absulutly pathetic

    this exibit belongs either in the rubbish bin or nowhere at all!what were these immiture children thinking i suggest they go back to the basics and start learning thier manners again,from preschool where they belong!

    Ashreinu
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    Ashreinu

    Our boys were busy before Purim packing thousands of mishloach manos for mivtzoyim, practicing to Lein the Megillah, learning about Purim, planning their routes… I barely saw my boys on Purim they were so busy with mivtzoyim Boruch Hashem! We are SO LUCKY that our chabad boys are busy with productive and beautiful things!!!
    Our boys build floats for parades, make signs to spread more light, and invest their energies in bringing Moshiach. THANK YOU REBBE!!!!!

    תיקון
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    תיקון

    Since Chabad is so full of love for other Jews they should not be penalized now. Rather, they should be placed on probation after this grave sin for a period of five years and a monitor appointed to institute PC sensitivity training. At the conclusion of this period, the situation can be reevaluated.

    Meanwhile, all Lubavitcher holidays should be observed at Ner Yisroel with farbrengens and toasts to the Rebbe, עד דלא ידע בין חסיד למתנגד.

    Mivtza tefillin Ner Yisroel
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    Mivtza tefillin Ner Yisroel

    What can you expect from them, they don’t put on Rabbeinu Tam tefillin, their tefillin is not ksav Ari, etc.

    Maybe bochurim from the Lubavitch yeshiva there should be sent to Ner Yisroel to put Lubavitcher tefillin on them.

    Balance Please
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    Balance Please

    Those commenting with disgust are certainly correct in their outrage for this particular scenario. Those asking us to lighten up, are perhaps misapplying a good sentiment in the attempts to keep the peace. However perhaps we need a third and more balanced perspective here. Perhaps we who recently learned perek lamed bais in chitas, and live our lives to mekarev another yid should see past painting the entire Jewish nation with the broad strokes of “us” vs “them.” These boys and perhaps the leadership of their Yeshiva certainly need to make a cheshbon hanefesh. However lets keep in mind that… Read more »

    #156
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    #156

    How can u even ask someone those questions ?
    I think the Rebbe would be so ashamed !!

    #82 #89 totally agree
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    #82 #89 totally agree

    ..They better do serious teshuva!!!

    CHILL
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    CHILL

    Where’s everyone’s sense of humor. It’s genuinely funny.

    Send bochurim to be mekarev them to Chasidus like at YU
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    Send bochurim to be mekarev them to Chasidus like at YU

    Just like at YU there is a Chabad club and Oholei Tayreh bochurim go there every Thursday night to learn Chasidus with the students, same too with Ner Yisroel. It is true that they are not the same, YU now has a mashpia Rabbi Moshe Weinberger from Long Island, who is a big Chosid of the Rebbe, but maybe there is still hope for Ner Yisroel. There is less than a month to the Rebbe’s 116th birthday, maybe something can be done there on יא ניסן. They can start saying the Rebbe’s kapitel every day after davening for a start.

    Spelling is atrocious
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    Spelling is atrocious

    Just need to say , the kids can’t spell on Hebrew or in English!
    Reall all the signs

    We're sorry
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    We're sorry

    I am a bochur at Ner Yisroel who actively participated in this shtick and was very involved therein. I want to apologize and perhaps clarify a few misunderstandings. 1. This shtick was done by not all, but some of the 54 members of the N.I. 11th grade, in the middle of the night. No one else knew or helped. The hanhala was taken completely off guard when they walked in for shacharis. 2. This shtick was not done with any hate in mind. I personally have a lot of respect for chabad activities as well as for the Rebbe. The… Read more »

    I’m nauseas from this menahel
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    I’m nauseas from this menahel

    “It’s totally ridiculous that it was put on social media. I’m sure there are things in New Brunswick and Crown Heights “ that’s an apology? That’s how you behave? No, no Rabbi Cook, this is not how others behave. And that doesn’t even matter. That’s so lame!! We don’t need an apology. Stop raising hate-filled kids! This isn’t Purim! It’s nauseating.

    Thank you clapman
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    Thank you clapman

    Whoever you are. Well said. Thanks for saying what’s on all of our minds.

    daige nisht-zai nisht nispoel!
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    daige nisht-zai nisht nispoel!

    the rebbe said that there are no real misnagdim today.
    poor them they’re just confused and tying to get attention.
    but they should know: they’re playing with fire!

    its a disgrace
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    its a disgrace

    Do we make fun of their gedolim???!!!

    TO 171
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    TO 171

    Thank you!!!! Very nicely written!

    i’m personally sad that this display went
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    i’m personally sad that this display went

    about time NER YIDROEL had a pic of the Rebbe on the wall , a mikva , some mivzoyim going on there , Hiskashrus with the rebbe , a yechi sign etc!
    the place looked so much better !!!!

    How lucky we are
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    How lucky we are

    litvish bochrim have nothing to do on purim and are nebach very bored…so… they do childish things to keep themselves busy

    To #171
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    To #171

    Thank you for trying to explain BUT: Abt #1 – even if the hanhala was taken off guard, the fact that they refused to apologize and even dismissed the idea that something might have been wrong here, casts the entire blame and responsibility on them Abt #2- Even if no disrespect was purposely intended, the feelings harbored towards Chabad were VERY clearly expressed. So this might just be a symptom, the main issue is way deeper and was expressed through this Abt #3- “a spoof of elokhist philosophy” Nice try. And you even agreed that one thing was too obviously… Read more »

    Purim Shtuss Chabad Style
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    Purim Shtuss Chabad Style

    Ashreinu mah tov chelkeinu!
    Boruch Hashem that our Chabad bochrim and girls are taught that Purim means running around on mivtzaim in a l’chatchilla ariber way. Even if not all of our teenagers are doing what they are taught, at least they know what they should be doing.

    181
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    181

    They should have done a trade your jacket station so that everyone has mismatched suits

    Learning from History
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    Learning from History

    We do not have chasunas during the Sefira, as Rabbi Akiva’s pupils did not respect each other’s Rebbe’s.

    A Limmud Zchus
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    A Limmud Zchus

    I am a Lubavitcher, and as it so happens, I have been working on the Ner Yisroel Campus over the past year.
    I have never encountered any disrespect or animosity from any of the talmidim at any time.

    On the contrary, on numerous occasions I was thanked sincerely and politely by various bochurim for the work that I was doing.
    Furthermore, some of the bochurim offered me drinks, especially on the warm summer days.

    Despite the fact that I politely declined their kind offers, one Bochur took the initiative and brought me an ice cold can of soda.

    Mi k’Amcha Yisroel!

    A Limmud Zchus
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    A Limmud Zchus

    I am a Lubavitcher, and as it so happens, I have been working on the Ner Yisroel Campus over the past year.
    I have never encountered any disrespect or animosity from any of the talmidim at any time.

    On the contrary, on numerous occasions I was thanked sincerely and politely by various bochurim for the work that I was doing.
    Furthermore, some of the bochurim offered me drinks, especially on the warm summer days.

    Despite the fact that I politely declined their kind offers, one Bochur took the initiative and brought me an ice cold can of soda.

    Mi k’Amcha Yisroel!

    whoa
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    whoa

    much worse than i had anticipated. woe. disgraceful.

    If it was Breslov nobody would bat an eye
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    If it was Breslov nobody would bat an eye

    If the bochurim did a shtick with a Breslov doing stick with “Na Nach Nachma Nachma MeUman” and the like, guarentee no one would be upset about it. I’m almost certain. Nobody would say its disgraceful. Everyone would laugh and get over it. As someone who grew up in the Lubavitch community, I have never seen such an unwelcoming atmosphere to other gedolim and limmud haTorah outside of what the Rebbe perscribed. To quote what I heard by someone with alot of pull in that circle “You aren’t going to be come a Talmud Chochom anyways! Close the gemara and… Read more »

    To #171
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    To #171

    Well said.

    And as a former Talmud of Ner Yisroel, I can say that I was never ever taught anything remotely hateful about Chabad. This was Purim Shtick based off of what these boys learned during their younger years as Ner Yisroel itself does’nt teach anything remotely siilar to the shtick about Chabad

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