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‘Near Death’: Activists Warn About Rise in Alcohol Consumption

Chilul Hashem in the making: A group of Jewish community activists met to discuss the rise of alcohol availability and consumption in frum circles; a Yeshiva bochur was found intoxicated in Park Slope. Full Story, Photos

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Unbelievable
March 5, 2023 6:55 pm

This is a serious pekuach nefesh matter which even the rabbis have to come forward to address the situation due to it being as it is and yet how the irony that not one rabbi in the photos looks like they plan to take the situation in their hands. Yes they are there btw just listening, to show official support and life moves on… seriously?! Okay, another article that’s “just talking” till the next one….

Really?
Reply to  Unbelievable
March 5, 2023 8:39 pm

You must have special powers to assume all that just from pictures. Rabbi Braun is speaking in one of the pictures.

The Rabbanim Actually Put Out A Letter
Reply to  Unbelievable
March 6, 2023 12:29 am

Your assumption (that not one Rabbi looks like they plan to do something) B”H turned out inaccurate. A few days ago, the Rabbanim of Crown Heights led by Rabb Braun, actually put out a very strong letter on the subject, and clarifying that the Rebbe’s regulation on alcohol for those under the age of 40 applies on Purim. I am surprised that there was no mention of this letter here (maybe I missed it) it was hanging all over 770 this past Shabbos. Although that there are obviously a large portion of people who may disregard the Rabbanim’s directives (ironically,… Read more »

True
March 5, 2023 7:07 pm

My nephew had to be hospitalized after losing consciousness from excessive alcohol consumption nearly losing his life.. the drinking has list meaning, and is just an activity for fun.

Finally, we are waking up!
March 5, 2023 7:09 pm

Kudos to the organizers. You are saving lives.
How can we get involved as parents?

Demand the end of mesivta drunks
Reply to  Finally, we are waking up!
March 6, 2023 1:19 am

The weekly Thursday night + chassidishe YT farbrengs ENCOURAGE and TEACH 14 year old impressionable innocent naive bochurim to drink. In the name of chassidus. With peer and mashpia pressure. How backwards is this??? How evil??? How wrong??? In the name of getting a bochur to open up. The heck w opening up. Safer to not. I tried stopping this when my oldest son entered mesivta. It took a huge effort to get the hanhala to agree to only wine at farbrengs in shiur aleph. We held a meeting- parents and staff. The staff laughed at us mothers saying “a… Read more »

Why wine?
Reply to  Demand the end of mesivta drunks
March 6, 2023 10:27 am

If your problem is legality, wine is also illegal.

Not Just 770
March 5, 2023 7:14 pm

What about the “secret” group that goes off into a Rabbi’s office for their own little “kiddish club?”

They’re not openly drinking in front of everyone but the result is obvious when these guys reek of liquor and are obnoxious to deal with.

It’s the big open secret in Shul and whether you realize it or not, people notice.

Dovid
Reply to  Not Just 770
March 5, 2023 7:54 pm

As long as they aren’t giving alcohol to young people they are guilty of being selfish and stuck up, not of murder.

If you are upset that you aren’t invited, maybe ask if you can join their club.

However, this isn’t relevant to the conversation and counterproductive. We aren’t going to stop their kiddush club, but we can ask them not to give out alcohol to anyone under age.

Not Just 770
Reply to  Dovid
March 5, 2023 7:59 pm

When their kids are unsupervised or crying for tatteh whom they can’t find, it’s a problem.

Do they need educating?
Reply to  Dovid
March 6, 2023 2:55 am

Does everyone in the kiddush club drink safely? Are there former alcoholics at shul being pulled into this or feeling so tempted it is hard to be at shul? Does it spill out in other ways- how many people are dancing on Simchas Torah as opposed to just sitting there because they had too many lchaims?
Having seen all of this first hand, once this becomes part of a shul’s culture there are many unintended consequences that merit consideration.

Nice
Reply to  Not Just 770
March 5, 2023 7:54 pm

I see why you aren’t invited to the office. You sound like a lot of fun

Not Just 770
Reply to  Nice
March 5, 2023 8:00 pm

I’m not interested in getting shiker every Shabbos. I have children who need me and a loving wife who is glad I don’t reek of booze.

Ok
March 5, 2023 7:15 pm

Ok very nice!
What about combating smoking as well?

Not understanding
March 5, 2023 7:22 pm

Why is alcohol the issue ? Be careful Someone doesn’t put something in your drink …….
As usual the frum community is always off the mark

I think there is a need to discuss both issues
Reply to  Not understanding
March 5, 2023 10:40 pm

I personally educated my teenager about both.

Gerald
Reply to  Not understanding
March 7, 2023 8:52 am

Were off the mark, that’s why the FRUM world has substantially less murders, divorces, DV issues, overdoses etc. (this is not to say they dont happen of course, we are human) But to say “as usual, were way off”??? You seem to be way off my friend…

Not just simchas torah
March 5, 2023 7:36 pm

Go into 770 any night nowadays.

I knew some not frum people that walked to 770 for ST,
Their only take away was that every single person they bumped into was almost passed out

A little late
March 5, 2023 7:39 pm

Purim is once a year. And what happens on Purim is a result of alcohol abuse, primarily in Yeshivas, Shuls and by Mashpiem.

If this discussion shiuld be taken seriously, It would expected that all those sitting around the table implement an alcohol free (or almost) policy in their yeshivos, schools and shuls.
Otherwise, this article is a Purim Torah.

Schools
Reply to  A little late
March 5, 2023 10:12 pm

There is a yeshiva where the mashpia was giving mashkeh to bochrim that were just 13-14 years old!!
And another school where the teacher asked for mashkeh for mishloach manos!! What kind of message is that for the kids 🙁

Why the negativity!
March 5, 2023 7:51 pm

These comments are quite absurd.

“not one rabbi in the photos looks like they plan to take the situation in their hands”- How on earth can you make such a statement! Are you a Navi! So pessimistic and judgmental!

“Why is alcohol the issue?”

“Why not combat smoking?”

So critical. Look at the good. They got together to discuss an important issue, article is creating awareness. Beautiful! To all critical commenters, are you doing anything better? Stop the negativity!

Replying
Reply to  Why the negativity!
March 5, 2023 8:27 pm

Why the negativity? Am I a navi?! HELLO?! This problem was from 10 years ago (if not more)?! Did the situation get better or worse mr. Judgmental? Its called a realist that no one wants to FACE THE PROBLEM!

your point?
Reply to  Replying
March 6, 2023 12:49 am

which problem is it that you think is not being faced?

Kol Hakavod!
March 5, 2023 7:55 pm

It’s about time this happened! We have been ignoring this as a commuity for far too long.
Schools and yeshivas – time to step up and deal with this. Stop allowing alchohol. Enough is enough!

Let's be realistic
March 5, 2023 8:03 pm

Stopping giving all alcohol to minors within the Orthodox Jewish community is dead on arrival. The next question is how much and how frequent. Then there are certain contexts in which case alcohol is being abused. Then there are times when the alcohol is not associated with anything religious whatsoever and is merely wild. This wild wonton behavior is the only actual issue, and is the issue that must be dealt with. Alcohol should be administered but with the decree of the Rebbe etc. The issue of drinking and driving is a separate one that is very important. No one… Read more »

Good to educate about all these points
Reply to  Let's be realistic
March 6, 2023 3:01 am

And it is not necessarily “dead on arrival” as you put it. It is something that takes work but can be done, if we believe it has merit. And yes we also need to educate about what happens when a person has already had something to drink.

A parent
March 5, 2023 8:05 pm

Thank you for taking the time to lead this initiative. I would like to add something important. The distribution of drugs. THIS TISHREI in front of 770 I saw a non jew distributing free drugs to bachurim. We need to stop this. We need more supervision.

Stop funding
Reply to  A parent
March 5, 2023 11:18 pm

It’s part of the budget of 770, stop paying for it and less kids and adults will get drunk
You can’t resolve this issue till people have alcohol available all over our “wonderful” schuna

Another Org....
March 5, 2023 8:22 pm

…. that gets to tell people what to do . Bunch of exagerators. Wait till the fundraising campaign. Find real problems . And present and implement real solutions . Stop threatening people. And remember . You can’t fix stupid.

Bochur
March 5, 2023 8:43 pm

Why no mention of weed

Leah.
Reply to  Bochur
March 6, 2023 12:20 pm

We are not talking about weed bc weed is not being handed out by adult and I dont think people are going to the hospital bc of it.

L'chaims in Mesivta
March 5, 2023 9:05 pm

Why is it ok to offer boys wine for L’chaim at age 13 and 14? This sends the boys the message that it’s ok to drink.

What are you talking about?
Reply to  L'chaims in Mesivta
March 5, 2023 10:44 pm

Of course it’s okay to drink. Kiddish is drinking. Havdala is drinking. The four cups of wine are drinking. To make a movement the drinking is evil is simply incorrect. Drinking must be monitored and done correctly.

All those mitzvos
Reply to  What are you talking about?
March 6, 2023 1:25 am

Can be done using grape juice

Open a book
Reply to  All those mitzvos
March 6, 2023 10:33 am

Grape juice is not OK for most mitzvos except specific grape juice (unsterilised) and for medical reasons

Funny
Reply to  L'chaims in Mesivta
March 5, 2023 11:15 pm

It’s became like a cult in chabad to get drunk, what people coming for to ch on Tishri?

Unhappy
Reply to  Funny
March 7, 2023 12:28 pm

And only in Chabad. Getting drunk has nothing to do with Yiddishkeit.

Who remembers
March 5, 2023 10:04 pm

The article whould do well to mention the incident that occurred this past Tishrei, when two drunk bochurim beat a litvish bochur to the point of death on simchas beis night.

This Shabbos in 770!
March 5, 2023 10:23 pm

What a scene! 20-30 bochurim drunk and disrupting the Seder Niggunim after Mincha.
Upstairs in The small Zal, bochurim laying on the floor in a pool of vomit.
This is what the Rebbe and the world are seeing every Shabbos.
What a Chilul Hashem.
Shame on us for ignoring it.

Who are they?
Reply to  This Shabbos in 770!
March 6, 2023 1:06 am

All Israelis and foreigners… Not English speaking bochurim!

Unhappy
Reply to  This Shabbos in 770!
March 7, 2023 12:30 pm

This is the Seder in Melbourne. Instead of dovening maariv Friday night they go to someone’s place where parents are overseas and get plastered.

alcohol
March 6, 2023 12:56 am

kiddush is made on something alcoholic (as is other event markers – bentching, sheva brachos, bris…), farbrengens are with hard alcohol, purim is blatantly ad dilo yoda, so we can’t masquerade an anti-alcohol stance. And it’s a tough sell to demonize something that’s ok for 40+ year olds, or holy events. The challenge is to be able to address alcohol as a controlled substance. It’s ok for person X in situation Y. It’s not ok for person Z at all, and ok for other to a certain extent. Like most things in our reality. One must teach/learn the skill of… Read more »

Unhappy
Reply to  alcohol
March 7, 2023 12:33 pm

So you’re saying a12 year old is so machmir and frum (and never misses dovening etc) that he needs to make Kiddush (when he can listen to others) on vodkalike his father.

ok....
March 6, 2023 4:34 am

Yes it ia WRONG to get drunk and its going totaly against the Rebbe but….
Purim is difrent when the Rebbe made the gezairoh שמיני תשכ”ג he sayd that this is not for purim cuz on purim its a mitsvah and no harm can come from a mitsvah
Yes when poeple drink during the year its terible and realy bad stuff can happen
But purim we have a haftoche that nothing bad is gonne happen.

Wrong
Reply to  ok....
March 6, 2023 2:20 pm

Later the rebbe also added the gezeira for Purim and only took it off certain years

Unhappy
Reply to  ok....
March 7, 2023 12:34 pm

So you are saying that they can drink and won’t die from alcoholic poisoning?

30 percent of students are on some sort of ADHD m
March 6, 2023 6:54 am

“30 percent of students are on some sort of ADHD medication”
This is part of the problem! The lesson you teach my medicating everyone is if you have a problem – medicate it. So feeling stressed – drink!

Differentiate age groups
March 6, 2023 9:05 am

Yes, bochurim can be told that there is no drinking under the legal age. They accept that they cannot drove at 13 even though the adults around them all do. It is what we teach them from a young age. Drinking responsibly requires a fully mature brain. And when we drink, we can model responsible drinking, kiddush, havdala, no need for excessive social drinking.let’s stop laughing at people who use grape juice. Maybe they have health issues or alcoholism or medications that prevent them from drinking. That should be respected and admired, and would go a long way in helping… Read more »

The parents
March 6, 2023 9:31 am

I think it’s up to parents to teach their children about proper alcohol consumption. I remember just before I entered mesivta my father spoke to me about alcohol abuse and how to drink responsibility b/c he understood where I was going and what go’s on there

Yoel
March 6, 2023 9:35 am

According to the Zohar Vaeira, the evil inclination is aroused by wine.

Alcohol is a crutch for weaklings.

Culture of alcoholism
March 6, 2023 10:40 am

We live and raise our children in a culture of alcoholism. We need to root this out at the source. Parents call the mesivtas and say no. Report the fake IDs forgers in 770. Report the stores that sell to minors. Parents wake up! You are asleep at the wheel. Do you know where your child is? Do you understand why he isn’t waking up in the morning on time?
Any adult who gives alcohol to a child is culpable. We do not want addict sons or alcoholic husbands for our daughters.

Girls
March 6, 2023 11:15 am

I hope they bring this education to the girls schools too without pretending like it’s not an issue there

they did
Reply to  Girls
March 7, 2023 12:43 am

a hatzala guy came and spoke to a bunch of schools.

Ironic
March 6, 2023 11:47 am

This has been going on for 50 years with Yeshivahs putting out vodka for teenagers at fahrbrengens thinking it’s going to magically change bochrim b’ruchnios. Those kids are parents and grand parents and condone drinking, with the result that Chabad has many, many alcoholics which should have nothing to Yiddishkeit.

Teenagers don’t stop because you tell them to
March 6, 2023 11:50 am

Anyone who has had any interaction with teenagers of any background knows, that “taking it away” doesn’t actually mean they won’t get it. They are smarter than you, and more creative than you. They will get their hands on booze if they want to. You cannot control a teenager! The only way to stop this issue is to educate them, if they still make poor decisions, and risk harm to themselves, then that’s a reflection of your education. Also, teenagers make dumb choices, that happens, but having them learn from their own dumb choices and their friends or peers dumb… Read more »

Very good work... but appears a tad odd...
March 6, 2023 12:06 pm

Such meetings are crucial and I commend the organizers. Thank you.

However – it does appear a little odd that there are no young people from the actual community invited to this meeting.

Please bring others from outside of the “elite” fold to join in such convenings. This will enhance the outcome we all hope and pray for; a safe and merry Purim for all.

Moshe A.

Hey an "idea"
March 6, 2023 12:57 pm

To have shot cups written on them smt about the rebbes horaa of 4 cups and make them with number 1 2 3 4.
Or 1/4 etc.
It not have to be reusable. So everyone can get one at any time (basically available everywhere).
S h

No chillul Hashem here!
March 6, 2023 2:05 pm

This is the biggest mitzvah to bring light to a situation and not ignore it. It can save someone’s life!!
Keep talking about it.
Keep writing about it!
Thank you!!

Smaller cups
March 6, 2023 3:55 pm

Every time by a central farbrangan in 770 and other places people (including rabbi Braun) says l’chiam, on a 8 oz. (Big) cup of maskah Although there is a small amount in the cut I suggest that we start using smaller cups, showing that we have a smaller amount. They make special 1oz. cups to say l’chiam. We can even get a 3 oz cup but we can start by showing our children that we take a small amount. It’s how big the cup is I can say ONLY ONE! l’chiam on a 20 oz. Cup and it can be… Read more »

Drinking too much is against the torah!
March 7, 2023 5:10 pm
  1. The Torah says that we must follow the law of the land and drinking underage is illegal
  2. There is the concept of a nazir who may not drink even one drop of wine
Gerald
Reply to  Drinking too much is against the torah!
March 8, 2023 1:08 pm

and you always follow the law to a T right? suure…

please educate, but you are not GD
March 9, 2023 1:43 am

thank you for caring and yes, please educate, but you are not GD to say so assuredly that there will c”v be fatalities this Purim al tiftach peh and also ask yourself why are so many on pills maybe things can change a bit in schools to better acoomodate children who can’t sit behind a desk all day and/or follow what the Rebbi or Morah for hours without getting up a bit (other than recess) please also look at the bigger picture of why so many drink, this world is not an easy one to navigate these days… young people… Read more »

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