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to #12
December 3, 2017 9:30 pm

” Seek to respect others’ values. Seek to value for yourself something other than what you’re fed.”
Would you like to explain that more clearly? If you’re coming from where you sound like you’re coming from, it’s your thinking that ‘s encouraging confusion and doubt, and your thinking that’s contributing to the perception that even though taking drugs isn’t ideal it’s still acceptable behavior.

Wow
December 2, 2017 9:37 pm

I’m a bochur and drugs is barely, actually not even a problem around me or my friends and don’t say I don’t know what actually goes on because I do and drugs isn’t the issue. the biggest deal is drinking more than four and being exposed to unfiltered internet
I’m probably one of the only select young people that have a comment on this

Sorry
December 2, 2017 8:49 pm

Kids in Cali have a much bigger problem with heroin and drugs they find in grandparents bathroom. Everybody’s parents smoke pot. It’s not a big enough high for kids and who wants to do what your parents do. Focus on the real problems. It’s a matter of time before pot is legal for recreational and medical use. Take the tax money and stop the opiod problem. Btw edibles have cured my lifelong insomnia. I am over 65 and don’t need to get high but I do need to sleep.

No more than 4.....think about it.
December 2, 2017 2:39 pm

I don’t believe the Rebbe was suggesting a mesivta boy (14-16)should consume 4 ounces of vodka every Thursday evening. It is illegal and unhealthy. In the letter posted by one of the above commenters, the Rebbe writes ….not to allow method shlichus etc. The average bochur that goes on MS is 20+.
In the days between 9 and 19 Kislev a mesivta has 4-5 farbreingens. Do the math. It’s mind boggling!!
Wake up!! The house is on fire!

# 16
December 2, 2017 10:37 am

It is so not the place here to address what you are intimating You are married Don’t emulate the Gerrer Chasidim it is not for us and frankly not for the majority of Gerrer either Rashis Chochmo which in my day every Tomim was advised to learn Shulchan Oruch the Orech Chaim Halochos will guide on how to instil kedusha but normality into your marriage When one wants to aim too high too soon once falls One fails and one gets despondent Where are the Mashpios? Trust our guys they have wealth of experience Go on Shlichus with easy mind… Read more »

To #6
December 1, 2017 5:44 pm

One word, DENIAL.

Are you a Lubavitche chasid!!
December 1, 2017 10:28 am

If you claim your Lubavitche chasid, then we know the rebbe was very aginst drugs, so of you want to smoke pot, then became a bresliv chasid!

Another excellent article
December 1, 2017 10:01 am

I’d like to add a few more thoughts for readers to consider: Why would a young or older person try or use marijuana? Is the reason emotional, peer pressure, or perhaps because of misinformation they’ve been given that marijuana is a natural remedy that may help them with a chronic condition they’ve been living with and that nothing has yet seemed to help? Looking into the Holistic treasure chest of TRULY NATURAL, NON-TOXIC, AND SAFE ALTERNATIVES to marijuana, other drugs and alcohol and selecting from the Flower Essence section we can look at: Agrimony, for the person who hides their… Read more »

Berel
December 1, 2017 9:19 am

#16 You will make an excellent Shliach IY”H But you have to get past this. It’s generally not an addiction, everybody has their threshold. Some people aren’t inclined, so even an open internet isn’t an issue for them; some people are able to manage with filtering to which they can get the password to; some people need filtering that they can’t get the password to; and some people need to have no access to the internet in public; and some people need to have no access to the internet at all. You need to find your threshold, the major decision… Read more »

#16 Please do not go on shlichus!!!!
December 1, 2017 8:15 am

Why would you go on shlichus now!??? Help yourself first. Yes there are thousands of frum s** addicts but help is available. Good luck!!

Adhd
December 1, 2017 8:11 am

My son who has ADHD tried pot and believes it had helped him. Has anyone here had experiences with that? Are ADHD medicines any safer?

I hate pot, but it's saving my marriage
December 1, 2017 8:00 am

I’m a big anti drug, cigarette, alcohol proponent. I got married at a young age to someone who suffered lots of abuse and has lots of issues. The first decade of our marriage was a true nightmare. I was always scared of who I’d wake up to, I was not aware of the mental health history that runs in his family, if I had known we would have never been married, Gone through years or therapy, medication combinations, in treatment facilities and nothing worked. Shabbos was the worst, I hated shabbos because of all the drinking he would do in… Read more »

To #19
December 1, 2017 7:44 am

Thanks for sharing I was wating for this comment, stop with all this weed topics, because I think it makes people to want to smoke!

#20 amen
December 1, 2017 6:57 am

l just feel sorry for the closed minds to the dangers of pot and alc, may we merit a revalation to truth

# 19
December 1, 2017 6:56 am

You are absolutely right
In all things there is good and bad
Klipas nogah
Internet
Alcohol
Tobacco
Etc
As long as the States legalize
If it it illegal then in my interpretation the item becomes
From the three klipos which are utterly impure
How you say does secular law affect
Says I Almighty G-D controls the actions of Government
As we say in our heartfelt prayers on Kippur Day
Let’s not go down the Rambam’s conundrum, not the place here

To 19
December 1, 2017 6:39 am

You’re in denial. You say “you don’t do it for fun or to escape anything”….. yet you use it for emotional wellbeing. That stuff is frying your brain…… one day at a time.

EVERYONE SEEKS INSPIRATION, AN AIM...
December 1, 2017 6:22 am

Thank you #20 for telling us the Rebbe’s words on mashke! I heard a respected mechanech say that the reason the youth are not feeling involved (and its consequences) – is because they don’t feel the realness, the urgency of yiddishkeit somehow (whatever the reason) – and the remedy is to give them an ACTIVE urgent involvement and AIM – which is actually the Torah’s aim – as brought to us so urgently during 40 years of the Rebbe’s leadership. Basically, said the mechanech – when the youth feel connected to TODAY’s yiddishkeit – (which is enabled through knowing chassidic… Read more »

4 keleshlikes only
December 1, 2017 4:20 am

IT TAKES THE REBBE TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT OVERDRINKING IS FORBIDDEN FOR ANY PERSON IN LUBAVITCH.
I THINK THAT THE REBBE ALSO SAID THAT A BOCHUR SHOULD ONLY HAVE UP TO 4 LITTLE ONE OUNCE CUPS OF VODKA.

we need more open dialog
December 1, 2017 1:32 am

this leads us back to chinuch, are we getting it right? why “Our kids today are lacking purpose, identity, direction. All the things that can help fill a void”. we need more open dialog.

#10 just the opposite
December 1, 2017 12:59 am

Among the young people, the bias is that ‘marijuana is harmless and safe’ and that is what people are trying to address here. Not which is worse, or why don’t people (rightly and justly!) publicly condemn drinking etc. There are many many addictive substances and behaviors to address in our modern world. But sadly, many kids have NO idea of the possible effects that weed can have. And they meet someone like #19 who smokes and is successful and outwardly ok, and they extrapolate that EVERYONE can use it safely and it is completely harmless and fun. Know the dangers.… Read more »

"Self Defense Studio CH"
December 1, 2017 12:13 am

for our children- sports and a healthy life. for our enemies- drugs and death. Our children do not touch drugs. They grow up healthy.
https://www.facebook.com/selfdefensestudioch/

go mendi baron!
December 1, 2017 12:11 am

Mendi is the best in this field and has dealt with such issues for many years. Everything that was said here is absolute truth, don’t deny truth because you cant handle it,just say what i’m doing is wrong but i will choose to continue. And for those of you that feel that there is an alcohol problem that may be true but weed is the discussion here. Don’t use bringing up other points that are a problem to ease you of your weed addiction. You crown heightsers have nothing better to do with your lives than sit here and fight… Read more »

To number 5
December 1, 2017 12:02 am

At this point I think it’s safe to say that you are stuck in the old biased “weed is a drug that kills people” attitude and funnily realize that you can google the statistics yourself. You say not to compare the 2 alcohol and weed but at the same time you don’t look at the facts. Alcohol causes over 500 deaths a year in New York alone!!! While smoking pot has guess how many??? You got it, zero! Which one should you be screaming about? The drug that is hidden from the youth or the one that is given out… Read more »

Rebbe's Directives regarding Alcohol - Mashke - 2 Sivan, 5768 May 29, 1968- published by Kehot in original Hebrew with Rebbe's handwritten additions
November 30, 2017 11:50 pm

B”H 2 Sivan, 5728. to the leadership of Tzeirei Agudas Chabad (Lubavitch Youth Organization) branch….. Greetings and Blessings!’ We are herewith conveying to you the words of the Rebbe Shlita, that he said today to the members of his secretariat and to the leadership of Tzeirei Agudas Chabad (Lubavitch Youth Organization) after the afternoon services. and we requesting you to publicize these words in the befitting manner. “Since the festival of Shavous is rapidly approaching and since I’ve been notified that there are those who have began to be lenient with regards to Mashke [Alchohol], so – as with regards… Read more »

Married with kids
November 30, 2017 11:40 pm

I am 34 years old. I’m a Lubavitcher who lives in crown heights. I’ve been smoking pot since I’m 17 years old and it has helped me immensely in my social life, emotional life, etc. the only downside is it can get a bit expensive on a budget but so can alcohol or cigarettes which I don’t touch. I don’t do it for fun and I don’t do it to escape from anything. I haven’t touched and Advil or Tylenol in years because it helps with that as well. I make over 100k a year Bh and I am very… Read more »

We take away the pipe and hand them a bottle
November 30, 2017 11:32 pm

Not to say that smoking is in any way good, but I do think it’s odd that such an outroar for pot is happening and yet Crown Heights is known for some pretty crazy drunken shananagins and this doesn’t get spoken about? It may not be right for teens to be smoking but is it ok that from let’s say 14 they are exposed to drinking all through their yeshiva experience, usualalg drinking multiple times a week. I think the point is not to get caught up in one or the other but to educate our children and really our… Read more »

Thank you!
November 30, 2017 11:08 pm

Thank you COL!

Why is there no attention
November 30, 2017 11:05 pm

Being given by the worst of addictions killing the spiritual life of people. Lust and s** addiction, it’s rampant and destroying not only youth but adults as well. No one is immune from this machleh. Including myself a married chassidishe yungerman who’s looking for Shlichus. It’s a disease.

ALCOHOL IS A DRUG
November 30, 2017 10:58 pm

Please use any available dictionary.

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November 30, 2017 10:54 pm
When are we going to wake up?
November 30, 2017 10:49 pm

Wow. Very disturbing to see #5’s comment. The substance abuse issue in our community is due to pain. Whether ppl numb that pain w alcohol or pot or any other addiction- the problem is the same- PAIN. It’s not going to solve our problems to tell ppl to stop doing drugs/drinking alcohol or even purging our communities of devices…let’s wake up before it’s too late and change our view. Know and recognize that some have less of a capacity to deal w pain or trauma. That’s their test. Some are prone to being judgmental and arrogant. Everyone has a test.… Read more »

Beside the point???
November 30, 2017 10:45 pm

“Our kids today are lacking purpose, identity, direction. All the things that can help fill a void. But that’s a whole other topic.” Really? That IS the topic. But no one wants to admit it. Almost every person addicted to pain killers (legal or not) and mind altering substances, suffers from some pain from a void. (often caused by a trauma of sorts). Discussing whether weed or alcohol or pills or street drugs are dangerous is deflective. Focus on WHY people take them in the first place. And admit that this generation has an unprecedented challenge to address connection, purpose,… Read more »

To number 2
November 30, 2017 10:25 pm

Alcohol in moderation is OK and possibly even good for you – of course follow safe drinking guidelines, don’t drink more than 4, don’t drink alone or to wake your self up using alcohol – but making Kiddush and saying one or two lechayims on the occasional shabbos is perfectly fine and won’t damage your brain. Studies show that doing the same with pot will damage the mind affecting episodic memory, attention and associative learning in a dose dependent manner. Interestingly the more cannabis used and the earlier on in life then the greater the cognitive impairment. Another interesting randomized… Read more »

Anti Marijuana bais
November 30, 2017 10:24 pm

As long as people view a difference between alcohol and marijuana then somethings wrong. Socially/society wise marijuana seems like “drugs” and alchol isnt viewed as such. The reason being marijuana is illegal. This is an external factor not an essential reason. Yes people dont abuse alchol but also people dont abuse marijuana. Yes abuse exist but it is present everywhere. Point is marijuana has a distorted image. So if someone does marijuana he has stepped over a red line and all drugs are accross this red line so now this person is in a “category” of over the red line.… Read more »

@7
November 30, 2017 10:21 pm

Read this article and Dr Herman’s article, and you’ll see WHY.

To #6
November 30, 2017 10:13 pm

Alcohol most certainly is a drug, and it does provide the “quick fix”.

You’re insane if you think the amount of drinking that goes on during a Thursday night “farbrengen” or on simchas Torah isn’t abuse. They’re abusing their bodies.

It’s pushed way to much on underage teenagers for no reason other than “it’s chassidish”.

Be healthy
November 30, 2017 9:54 pm

Why is it so hard to convince everyone that pot heads are frying their brain. You see it. It’s not a secret. Don’t do this crazy stuff. Stay healthy! Get help!

To #2
November 30, 2017 9:45 pm

Very few people in our community abuse alcohol. This false “alcohol abuse crisis” needs to be put to rest.

I knew 400 bochrim when I was in Yeshiva. ONE bochur had an issue with alcohol abuse, and it was for a short period of time. I know hundreds of men who drink on Simchas Torah and occasionaly on a Shabbos and have zero issues with alcohol abuse.

Alcohol is NOT a drug. It doesn’t provide a quick “fix” the way drugs do.

To number two
November 30, 2017 9:23 pm

At this point it is time to say be quiet already! Or that in French. It’s crazy that whenever an issue is addressed there are ppl who say- but the other problem is much worse. Does that minimize the problem at hand somehow in your mind?!? Sorry but that’s a warped and dangerous mindset. The conversation now is about drugs or weed or whatever u wanna call it. You have a problem with alcohol? Write a different article about that. This isn’t about which problem is more severe so don’t mix ppl up

True
November 30, 2017 9:20 pm

Comment 2
A real catastrophe.
No-one discusses alcohol.We are raising addicts.

Well said
November 30, 2017 9:14 pm

Thank you for posting and explaining so clearly

Alcohol more dangerous issue
November 30, 2017 8:12 pm

because it’s part of our very life. Please give as much space to the dangers of alcohol as you do to pot. In our community we’re too blase about alcohol even as we get all hot and bothered about pot. Because it’s so familiar, it doesn’t mean it’s any safer.

Excellent article
November 30, 2017 7:54 pm

Than you for posting

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