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Kfar Chabad: 6% Not Vaccinated

Israel's Health Ministry reports that 6% of children in Kfar Chabad are not vaccinated against measles. The situation is worse in Tzfas. Full Story

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There's a serious problem here...
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There's a serious problem here...

And that is that the concerns of anti vaxxers regarding the safety of vaccinations are not truly being addressed. They are trying to be threatened and intimidated into doing something which they – rightfully so- is harmful to their child. Nothing in the world will convince us otherwise…cuz way back we also believed..just like eo else that vaccinations are great and very necessary. It’s only after really delving into it that we opened our eyes and realized it’s not as safe as we thought. So nothing will undo what we’ve learned. So instead of forcing everyone to vaccinate- we really… Read more »

Agree with #1
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Agree with #1

I’m so sorry that the PR campaign has become so fierce and that the pharmaceutical bullies have become so intimidating. It is clear where this is going, and I’m so, so sorry that the freedoms of smart parents may soon be taken away. HPV (as if frum people get this…), chicken pox, Hepatitis B for newborns (Hep B affects drug users and permiscuous individuals only), shingles, the flu. Soon we may be forced at gunpoint to accept ridiculous medical “commands” – as if doctors who are PAID to encourage patients to over-vaccinate are unbiased… Oh, please. Keep telling fake news… Read more »

Exactly as #1 said
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Exactly as #1 said

Stop dismissing our concerns. When vaccines are safe, I’ll (maybe) give them to my kids. Until then, leave us alone.

And by the way, the number of ex vaxxers is growing. The truth can only be hidden for so long.

TO 1
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TO 1

THE INGREDIENTS ARE PERFECTLY SAFE! HAVE YOU STUDIED THIS? ARE YOU A MEDICAL DOCTOR? I DOUBT YOU RECOGNIZE HALF OF THE INGREDIENTS.

we need pediatric nurse and doctors home visits back
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we need pediatric nurse and doctors home visits back

Guess moms of large families not having enough time to visit pediatric doctor or Tipat Halav services … maybe government should put back the service of home visits and education as it was in 80′ so more kids will have an apportunity of equal health care …..
or mandatory scheduled visits to see the doctor …
I don’t know but 16-17% of kids not having vacations it’s a lot i

The halachic view on shots:
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The halachic view on shots:
Tishrei Im Harebbe
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Tishrei Im Harebbe

Please don’t allow them to come to CH unless they provide immunization records.

Number 2
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Number 2

Your statement that unvaccinated children are only a threat to other unvaccinated children is chilling and heartless. My child is unvaccinated due to a disease where she cannot be vaccinated. She is also susceptible to these outdated viruses that could prove very harmful to her c”v. Your so called harmless choice is a very real threat to the health and well being of my child. One day anti-vaxxers will be sued in court under tort law for causing preventable injury and harm to other children.

Baruch Hashem!!!
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Baruch Hashem!!!

May Hashem keep all the children of kfar Chabad and other cities unvaccinated and NOT autistic…… To think that people would rather autistic kids so long as they don’t have measles is mind blowing!!!

Once again
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Once again

The extreme arrogance of anti-vaxxers who think they are smarter than the entire medical establishment. And the Rebbe who always advised listening to them. These people are beyond dangerous, no school should accept their kids.

To everyone:
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To everyone:

🎶 Amar Ravi akiva… amar rabi akiva… ve’ahavta le’reacha kamocha…🎶

To #8
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To #8

So your compromised child is more valuable than my healthy children whom you say I must vaccinate (with toxic chemicals) for the benefit of your sick child? Not to dismiss your duty but you need to be more careful with your child…. chicken pox and measles and the flu were and are always harmless for 99% of the population…

To #4
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To #4

I AM an MD. I DID attend undergraduate school, medical school and residency. I DO know what these ingredients are. I HAVE studied the SCIENTIFIC literature on vaccinations, their ingredients, their side affects, effectiveness, and ability to provide immunity. I studied the timeline of epidemiology of diseases as well as the definitions for those diseases at different times (yes the definition changed, particularly for polio). I am FULLY vaccinated. One thing I will never tell my patients is that I will under NO circumstances vaccinate my child!!! Vaccines are extremely toxic, unsafe, damaging. Scientific data has shown that their effectiveness… Read more »

Reasonable Vaccinations
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Reasonable Vaccinations

Im not sure why this isnt said more often but theres an idea called reasonable vaccinations. You dont have to give every single vaccine (esp hpv and of those ilk) and you dont have to do it at the exact month as long as your on top of it (hard when you have a bunch of kids). If you dont want your kid getting varicella/chickon pox vaccine then let them catch it naturally as a kid so they dont have to worry about getting the more serious, potentially life altering diesease of shingles when they are older. Nobody cares if… Read more »

My Opinion
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My Opinion

I think every single individuals opinion matters. I think it matters that we we’re all created with the capability to use our minds and think for ourselves. I think it matters, that as Jews, we have freedom of choice. I think It matters whether people speak up or not. Most importantly though, I think that how we treat each other, matters most. In the graduate school for my profession, One of the main things that we learned is how to respect each other in public and reconcile our differences in private. It is a message that every single individual in… Read more »

number 8
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number 8

I agree. If u don’t vaccinate your kids its as if u r killing them!

To number 13
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To number 13

well if you are an MD you would know that they changed the ingredients to safer ingredients. They used to include mercury which they no longer do.
There used to be many plagues and diseases they were inoculated due to vaccines.
There is no scientific data suggesting vaccines are dangerous.

Stop judging!!
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Stop judging!!

The Rebbe would’ve preferred us to be kind and understanding to each other. So all you crown heights lubavitchers who are so committed to the Rebbe should maybe act in his ways too not hate anyone and everyone who isnf like them or make the same choices as them. Pathetic and disgusting. And to the person who wrote not to let anyone unvaccinated in ch should maybe shave off his beard or take off your sheitel and stop pretending. And anti vaxxers dont pretend to know better then the medical establishment. Only once your child gets a shot and ver… Read more »

To number 17
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To number 17

I know that they removed enough thimerosal in MMR to be considered trace amounts by the cdc. I also know that anything less than 2% is considered a trace amount. Did you know that when youy add the 1.9% thimerosal in MMR you end up with nearly 5x the maximum dose allowed by the cdc. I also know that the same time they “removed” thimerosal from MMR, they began putting it into the flu vaccine. I also know that mercury (thimerosal) is not the only adjuvant and that aluminium is one of the most common adjuvants used which is extremely… Read more »

Don't quote rebbe conditions have changed
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Don't quote rebbe conditions have changed

RFK Jr. wins case against U.S. government for vaccine safety violations Sunday, November 11, 2018 by: Vicki Batts Image: RFK Jr. wins case against U.S. government for vaccine safety violations (Natural News) Del Bigtree, founder of Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN), teamed up with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to take on the U.S. government by filing suit against the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) for vaccine safety violations — and they won. This is big news for all concerned with the topic of vaccine safety. It turns out the federal agency has been neglecting their vaccine safety obligations… Read more »

to number 13
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to number 13

hey – would love to chat with you; can you email me at [email protected]? thanks!

-ChabadMD

Also to 17
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Also to 17

There is A LOT of research showing the dangers of vaccines as well as the risks of getting the disease. I’ve read and studied both. I’ve weighed my options. I hope each patient weighs theirs. If you decide the risk is worth it after being fully informed by both sides of the research, that is great, if not, also great. Your decision.
Read the work of Dr. Yehuda Schoenfeld, world renowned Israeli immunologist. He has some easily understood lectures and research papers on the immunologic effect of vaccines.

To #14
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To #14

Pertussis causes permanent damage? When and where was this study done? Certainly not the 2010’s in the United States. There was a pertussis outbreak a few years ago. My kids got it and coughed for about a month, including the one who was very young. Could have been mistaken for a cold. I think you’ve drunk a bit too much of the pharmaceutical cool-aid.

To Dr. 21
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To Dr. 21

Please give Dr. David Brownstein, M.D. a call. Look up his articles, “Common Vaccines Contaminated with Glyphosate” and “The Chickenpox Vacine Mess” as I doubt the M.D. above would be safe exposing him/herself to such a militant group of irrational parents (and unfortunately, uninformed leaders as well) on COL. The Rebbe’s guidelines were in regard to a vaccine schedule that has now been replaced with something he wouldn’t recognize. Hep B? Flu? HPV? Chicken pox? Where does it end? Parents – please THINK. There are hundreds of top M.D.s who question the ridiculous and dangerous vaccine schedule forced on children… Read more »

To 13
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To 13

With the anonymity of the internet you can claim to be anything including the Rebbe.

No one who has studied medicine would claim that vaccines are “extremely unsafe, damaging, toxic”. That’s utter nonsense. They have proven to be safe in numerous studies and trials except for the tiny percentage of the population allergic to them. Since people have become sick after eating eggs, fish, milk, bread etc. with your logic you shouldn’t feed your kids anything.

I challenge you to identify yourself. You are no MD, you are a liar.

Choices come with consequences
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Choices come with consequences

I don’t presume to tell anyone whether they should vaccinate or not. But I DO presume to tell you that you should do your own research , be strong in your decision because you will be fully be responsible for the consequences of that decision. Vaccine injury is real. The national vaccine compensation program paid 3.7 billion dollars to date and counting in injury compensation. The majority of these injuries revolve around are chronic and incurable. And not as “rare” as the public perceives. Settlements included death itself. Given the seriousness of the consequences it is only appropriate that the… Read more »

MMR measles mumps rubella
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MMR measles mumps rubella

Why is all the discussion only about measles? Mmr vaccine prevents mumps as well, the cause of male infertility if an unvaccinated male catches mumps.

To 13 and rest of you all.
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To 13 and rest of you all.

I am a Mayo Clinic trained physician and a Neurologist as well. The questionable ingredient in the MMR has not been in the vaccine for decades and there is zero data showing any linkage whatsoever with autism and any vaccine especially the MMR. The fact is, autism is often diagnosed at ages 2-3 when developmental delay is most easily and is most frequently diagnosed for that is what children should begin to speak. The studies done looking into this issue were massive with very strong statistical analysis and there was and is no data linking the two. If one wants… Read more »

Appropriate Humor
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Appropriate Humor

Why did the anti-vaxer’s 3-year-old start crying?
Because they were having a mid-life crisis 😉

Thank you number 20
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Thank you number 20

All those pro-vaxx please read that a few times. No one is really monitoring the safety. Yes, they are doing a good job a reducing the risks of diseases but MOST claims from a parent that a vaccine has hurt their child is not going to the right place so the medical establishment is not following that. Many parents who know the vaccine caused the harm are being ignored . So obviously there is no ‘scientific evidence’ to prove that the vaxx harmed. Cause the same people who need you to take the vaccinations to keep disease under control are… Read more »

to 13
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to 13

if you are an MD and you describe medical literature in the way you do, you are a joke! you sound like you dropped out of high school, forget about having 10 years of post secondary education under your belt, here is a little simple statistic for you, hope you can handle it, measles kills one in 1000, vaccinations injuries cause death in one in one million cases, I don’t believe you’re an MD, but you should know that your idiotic advice can and has caused pregnant women to lose their babies, males to become infertile from mumps, children left… Read more »

to 29
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to 29

what a horrible horrible thing to say .
for shame
clearly you don’t really care about anyone.

Shimon Shak
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Shimon Shak

If you dont vaccinate your kids you are putting babies in danger. The Rov in Kfar Chabad needs to get involved and make a ruling joining other famous poskim that ” If you dont vaccinate you cant live 8n the Kfar period end of story.

BICHIRAS Chofshes
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BICHIRAS Chofshes

Hashem didn’t make a human being incorrectly that we can’t fight viruses and infections, Hashem did make people with free choice, so we have people making vaccines convincing the medical field that for some reason the body Hashem made is malfunctioning and we can’t have proper imunity that civilization has been having for 1,000s of years…..but Baruch Hashem we have choices to delve into the sciences of vaccine and immunity and make our own choice……

I want to speak to the MD
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I want to speak to the MD

I am looking for more information on the topic so I can make good decisions, not just based on what I read online.
I would like an honest opinion based on medical research.
Please post your name or someone you recommend.
Thanks you!!

from,14 to,23- Pertusis
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from,14 to,23- Pertusis

To the commenter whose children got Pertusis. First of all- correct. I was in elementary school way before 2010. Second of all, while there used to be around 8000 deaths a year from pertusiss after widespread use of the vaccine its down to about 20. Thats just the death toll. Third of all pertusis is most dangerous in babies under a year old not as big of a deal especially in kids older then four.

Watch vaxxed
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Watch vaxxed

Medicine changes all the time. There was a long period of time we’re women were forced to get full Anastasia and their babies delivered via forceps, with the umbilical cord clamped immediately after birth because it was said to be safer. Women went through awful experiences giving birth. Women were forbiddden from nursing their babies, because formula was safer. Women who fought to give birth to their babies naturally were laughed at, made fun of, and overall ignored. Finally medicine caught up with the reality that birth is a natural process, and every doctor will tell you that nursing is… Read more »

I have a solution
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I have a solution

the 2 state solution! (R”L, CV”S)
You don’t want to vaccinate your child, against what OUR REBBE SAID!, Against what OUR RABBONIM say. Against what OUR DOCTORS say. Against what the majority of frum Jews in this community say.
Fine.
START YOUR OWN SCHOOL WITH YOUR OWN RULES and leave the rest of us alone!!!!

Wakefield was a fraud
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Wakefield was a fraud

And the anti-vaxxers are gullible emough to still believe him?
Please educate yourself and keep your kids home till you grow some brain cells.
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/antivaccine-hero-andrew-wakefield-scientific-fraud/

Wowwwwwww
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Wowwwwwww

All I see is one side did the research, and discovered the dangers while the other side did not do the research but is just looking at the fact that diseases are lessened. You’re right…diseases we’re lessened BH…but at what cost? How can you force a parent to deliberately poison their child even if it’s in order to prevent another disease? No one should have to choose between 2 evils but that’s what every parent needs to decide for their child and NO ONE should judge anyone for that decision- let alone FORCE their opinion on to someone else. Vaccinations… Read more »

A Bubbe
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A Bubbe

I have to put my 2 cents in. Whoever gives all the vaccines that they recommend today is risking their child’s health and those who dont give any vaccines at all are also taking risks. Until they make vaccines safer, I believe in the middle road, give the ones that are necessary- mmr, dtap, polio, but not all these extra ones they try to overload children with. Not hep B, chicken pox, prevnar, all these newer ones. Parents do real investigation, the vaccine schedules today are not wise, too much, too close together , some unnecessary. I had the mumps… Read more »

To 39
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To 39

Wakefields research was continued by numerous other independent researchers that came to the same conclusion that he and his team did ! Wakefield lead that study alongside two other physicians who both had their Medical license reinstated once ALL the facts were presented correctly to the medical board. Wakefield choose not to fight it and move on to other projects one being autism awareness and vaccine injuries in general which he has had great success with. He co produced the movie vaxxed which is NOT an anti vaccine documentary but rather exposed a CDC coverup of dishonest research results in… Read more »

a few quesitons
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a few quesitons

hepatitis B is spread through lifestyles that BH most frum yidden don’t do. Why do frum doctors (Rosen, Feldman, etc.) not speak about this? This vaccine is given the first time at birth, when the only chance of infection is that the mother engaged in this sad behaviors. Why are over 90% of our children getting this shot when there is zero risk of infection and not even an issue of herd immunity. Why was the smallpox vaccine officially taken off the recommended list in 1972 when there were no more cases in North and South America, but Polio vaccines… Read more »

Bubby
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Bubby

I commented in 41, but in response to #43. Yes Hep B has no place in being administered to our newborns, unfortunately I know of one case of vaccine damage from the hep B, and I suspect it’s just the tip of the iceberg.

Parents please educate yourselves . After giving birth to an infant no more than 10 minutes old, a nurse stands there offering to give your baby Hep B. Know what you are agreeing to before you say yes.

My apologies
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My apologies

To the Medical Practices I’m fully aware that in the event of a vaccine causing a serious injury to my child that even though legally your practice isn’t held responsible as I signed for that shot and was given “informed consent” that you were generous enough to mention all the adverse reactions that could happen along with sharing your what you have witnessed yourself with your patients. Your practice will indeed be helpful to .my child by providing referrals to various pediatric specialists such as but not limited to pediatric gastroendro, neurologists, immuniogists etc. Most likely recommendations for the best… Read more »

Helpful alright
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Helpful alright

Many families of vaccine injured children complaine that after the injury the medical practice isn’t helpful to them anymore. I don’t agree
I think they would be plenty helpful in the scenarios above !

to 46
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to 46

let me understand
you “don’t agree”
because you “think they would”?
seriously?
they are not. they won’t even look at you after your child is injured by a vaccine. and then they pressure you to vaccinate your next child. you can think but i have experienced this.

It's a choice ...
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It's a choice ...

Parents are allowed to not vaccinate their children. And schools are allowed to not accept unvaccinated children. Parents who don’t like the school’s policies are free to go elsewhere, or even create their own schools.

beware of vaccines injuries
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beware of vaccines injuries

I have seen vaccines cause serious injuries, there is a reason more or more people are hesitating. don’t let your child be a korbon! please please do researchthe ingredients and side effects, you cant undo a vaccine but you can do more research.

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