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Jewish Woman Violently Punched in Attempted Mugging

A Jewish woman was violently assaulted by a black female who attempted to rob her as she walked in Crown Heights on Thursday evening. Full Story

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What about the Pepper Spray?
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What about the Pepper Spray?

Curious about all the pepper spray that was handed out in Crown Heights. Two Jewish women have been attacked in the last two weeks and there have been no reports of them “pepper spraying” their attackers. So was all the pepper spray being handed out in vain?

Berel
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Berel

“when the attacker approached a Jewish woman and punched her in the back of the head”

About the pepper spray
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About the pepper spray

Yes, Pepper spray is an extremely useful way of fending off an attacker, however, not when youre attacked from behind. There is an obvious difference.

Pepper spray
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Pepper spray

It can get easily turned on you and is unsafe on a windy day. Secondly, the women was punched in the back of her head. Which wouldn’t give her time to pull out pepper spray. Third, one needs to learn the basics of fighting back once on the ground. I have been training in women’s self defense and martial arts for 8 years…

Pepper spray used by a competent adult
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Pepper spray used by a competent adult

Can save lives.

Pepper Spray is better than NOTHING
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Pepper Spray is better than NOTHING

We believe that there are actually adults here who can carry protective resources where they have immediate access AND use it responsibly. And would prefer to act from a distance rather than to engage in combat. Please consider that your chances of subduing a crazed, violent criminal, much larger than you, using martial arts are doubtful.. and most of us would rather not wait until we’ve had 8 years of martial arts training, like you, to find out for sure. Meanwhile, we’ll use whatever resources are available.

Self defense
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Self defense

The point is it can get turned on you very easily. I carry other forms of self defense. You are correct. Any form of self defense may fail. When being attacked from behind, pepper spray does nothing.

Need both
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Need both

If someone attacks you from behind like in this case, your pepper spray and distance won’t do much good. You don’t get to choose how they will try to surprise and attack you

Classes
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Classes

We obviously need classes in self defense asap

Also
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Also

Being situationally aware can help.
I check my surroundings every so often to make sure no one is following me too close behind or for too long.
I agree, pepper spray, and self defense classes are a must. Checking our backs will have to suffice until then.
Moshiach now

Self defense class
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Self defense class

Can you please share which class you go to? I’m looking for a self defense class for women

Tzedaka
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Tzedaka

This black woman goes around crown heights asking for tzedaka and if your don’t give her money
She screams at you
That you sick and crazy

Ch resident
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Ch resident

10 yrs ago she was sixteen.
That makes her 26 now.

Great job done by all
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Great job done by all

Kudos to the bochurim of oholei torah mesivta for handling the situation with professionalism as they always do. OTM never disappoints!

Homeless
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Homeless

Why are there so many homeless people in our neighborhood
Answer: because we have homeless shelters all over our town!!! This is insane! We have to do something about it or this will keep happening again and Again!!

We could have avoided having so many homeless
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We could have avoided having so many homeless

If we had a jewish homeless shelter we would not have had all these homeless shelters. We got them because we had no homeless shelter in our area. They were protested against but it didnt help because we had no homeless shelter. A jewish homeless shelter is still needed

Why charged only with Robbery??
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Why charged only with Robbery??

Why not also, more importantly, with Assault and Battery?? Some law ‘enforcement’. With robbery alone she’ll be out on free bail before she’s even in. This is unacceptable. And, of course, we all know that this was a HATE CRIME. A non-Jew in the same place at the same time – and there are plenty of non Jewish people who walk the area- would not have been targeted for this crime and especially such vicious violence.

Wondering the same thing
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Wondering the same thing

Punched and again and again and no assault charge? I don’t get it.

Wondering the same thing
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Wondering the same thing

She punched her and injuries were sustained. No assault charges ? Rational?

Wondering the same thing
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Wondering the same thing

Rational for no assault charges is…..?

No assault charges?
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No assault charges?

Reason?

Hood Rat
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Hood Rat

We need to catch them
And not Call police
We need To beat The
Ou Of Them

Don’t talk like that
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Don’t talk like that

I doubt you intend for your words to drive a Jew to prison. It would be a big chilul hashem and a tragedy. A major, major tragedy. Violence never stops violence.

Facts
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Facts

Couldn’t agree more

Disagree
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Disagree

Problem will be solved only when the criminals fear society more than society fears the criminals. Or moshiach comes!

Ad Masai…

7 pm on Empire and Albany...
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7 pm on Empire and Albany...

What’s next?
If people like this assailant get away without a scratch because law enforcement sees fit to ignore the truth…

7 pm on Empire and Albany...
Guest
7 pm on Empire and Albany...

What next?
If assailants like this one get away without a scratch because law enforcement sees fit to ignore the truth then expect more

Witnesses?
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Witnesses?

Why didn’t they stop her from “continuing while trying to rob her”?

Where are the guardian angels
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Where are the guardian angels

I guess they were just used for a publicity stunt

huh
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huh

they can be everywhere all the time?

Patrol
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Patrol

We are to blame
We are not patrolling our community

She was already released
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She was already released

She was already released and is back on the street

New New York
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New New York

She needed the money.. that used to be reason enough. Not every hungry person is anti-Semitic

Berel
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Berel

yep i’m sure that in her off hours she is staunch supporter of her Jewish neighbors

Work for food not kill for food
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Work for food not kill for food

She is not hungry she can eat at shelter but drugs can’t buy and Work is something that she never tried.
Hungry can ask, and get food card from the government and from around too. She is a Criminal And need to go to the prison

7 pm on Empire and Albany...
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7 pm on Empire and Albany...

So she repeatedly punched her and punched her even when the woman was on the ground because she needed the money?
Or maybe she forgot to take the groceries (I happen to know that the woman was carrying bags of groceries) because she was hungry?
Yes, every person who enjoys hurting Jewish people when they have alternate options of who to rob, steal, punch etc. is antisemitic. Don’t be so naive or worse, blind to stay in your politically correct comfort zone.

Oh my god
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Oh my god

Carry guns

Not that easy
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Not that easy

It won’t help because I bet you that you would be scared to use it

Vote out democRATs
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Vote out democRATs

As long as we elect liberal democRATs we will be victimized. The democrats today are very sick and dangerous. They hate Orthodox Jews as well as Israel. The jewish ones are self hating Jews. Why can’t we be smart voters. Between all the frum yidden in nyc as well as upstate we can get rid of the self haters like Schumer,Nadler and Engel. Why are we sleeping.

Refua Shleima to the victim
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Refua Shleima to the victim

I hope our community can provide this lady and her family all support.
It’s unacceptable what is going on in our streets. Time to hire private patrol. We are going back 30-40 years in safety and pls wake up all our rich and wise people and do something and community will support it.
Till now all plans not working …
Go and screen homeless shelters and send mandatorily all sick and sheigiz to the mental house

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