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Internet Is Not the Problem

Rabbi Osher Shapiro, a chassidishe educator in England, argued that the internet is not the reason for frum teens at risk. Full Story, Audio

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response to comment 25
January 4, 2012 11:39 pm

Once your kid gets a little older – he will race to the internet, b/c you have deprived him of it.

Maamin Bachachomoim
January 2, 2012 3:02 pm

With all my respect for Reb Osher whom I know personally.There is no doubt that the internet is a most powerful and dangerous tool and just as when my 6 year old will pick up my plugged in hammer drill I will snatch it from his hand before he harms himself so will I ensure that my children have no access to the web at whatever personal incovenience that will cause me, because I cannot take the risk of them harming themselves. Whoever tries to brush aside the terrible risks involved in the Web by quoting that we have to… Read more »

to #12
December 31, 2011 7:30 pm

Parents have to allow there kids to be free. Kids cannot be caged up. They need to feel that you trust them. They cannot have filtered computers – that don’t allow them to go on websites they want to. If the website is blocked, they will run to anywhere else they can get internet! you need to provide them with the background and strength to overcome themselves and not go onto that website. And it needs to be their decision, not yours to control – what they use it for. If you go up to your child and present them… Read more »

My opinion
December 30, 2011 8:59 am

1. It is NOT always the parents fault!!! I love my son to pieces – showed him unlimited amount of love. He went off the Derech for OTHER reasons NOT A LACK OF LOVE and even during that time, which was so difficult – i couldn’t sleep at night sometimes but in all the time he went off i still loved him UNCONDITIONALLY – even when i heard the sound of that shaver in the bathroom and my heart would shatter into a thousand pieces every time – even when he stayed in his room and would not come join… Read more »

ummm?
December 29, 2011 6:58 pm

do you relize that whoever is reading this article or posting on this article is ON THE INTERNET?!? how can yo say it is the problem if your on the internet yourself????

Yay!!! I'm the first one to comment!!
December 29, 2011 6:57 pm

This dude is so smart!!! He’s Brittish, that’s why. Brits always sound smart even if they say something stupid. But he at least said something smart. I think. 🙂 hehehe

R' Leibel
December 29, 2011 6:55 pm

this guy doesn’t know that he’s talking about. sooo not. INTERNET is THE poision that ruins the child. its like saying that someone who just drank poision and died CHV”SH didnt die from the poision. just saying

to #18, FILTERS
December 29, 2011 5:03 pm

safeeyes.com
I used it for 5 years, its totally headache -free. You can also alocate how much time a family member can use the computer. Costs about $50/year, definetely worth it.

filters
December 29, 2011 4:10 pm

Does anyone know of any good filters?

common sense?
December 29, 2011 3:12 pm

The internet is a power like electricity. “Questionable” content is “questionable”, was/is and unfortunately will always be available so long as we are in golus. Using the internet for the wrong things is like using the light of your home to see the same stuff in print. the internet made it more convenient? So did mass transit! So did the highway system… You can’t ban electricity. You can’t ban internet. You CAN teach morals. You CAN model making mature choices. You CAN teach, by example, how to live a life that does not give in to every whim. Am I… Read more »

internet
December 29, 2011 3:06 pm

Internet is the most dangerous thing for every jews soul. You would just hope that most adults are able to stay on the straight and narrow. You can not rely on that for children and teens. Go to TorahCafe.com and listen to Dr Twersky’s speech on the dangers of the internet.

boruch
December 29, 2011 12:19 pm

its the internet killing everybody its worse than tv

Rebbe Banned TV and would Internet Too
December 29, 2011 12:10 pm

No Lubavitcher or Chossid had TV in their homes.

The Rebbe on the same token would get internet Koshered because internet has TELEVISION.

Agree with #12
December 29, 2011 11:18 am

I don’t know if the internet is THE problem or not, but it is definitely A problem.
Anyone who has internet in their house MUST have proper (real proper) filters, and even with filters, the computer should be in an open, public area of the home, where anyone can be a Yoitzeh V’nichnas. Without these two conditions, it’s practically like giving a child a bunch of magazines, some Jewish, some Non-Jewish, some Kefira, and some complete filth (let’s face it most websites (over 50%) are filth.) and saying here, you make the right choice.
Plain common sense.

agree and disagree
December 29, 2011 9:59 am

there are obviously sites where teens (and adults) don’t belong. and it is too easy to reach these sites (accidentally or deliberately). If a home has internet, and has children and has no filter attached, it is equal to HANDING YOUR KIDS MAGAZINES WITH EXPLICIT MATERIAL, AND WORSE. Even the best, most Chassidish kids are normal. ANd normal means going to these sites. If you are a parent saying “not my kid” you are absolutely, without question, and most certainly fooling yourself. If you doubt me, talk to your child’s teachers.

THE problem?
December 29, 2011 9:42 am

I am not sure anyone can know what is the problem. TV is also not THE problem, and the ban was placed and it is still in effect.

Personally, I don’t think having Internet is an Aveirah. It’s all over my house. But to say it is not THE problem and ignore its problems sound a bit naive to me.

SENSE
December 29, 2011 5:21 am

Finally someone with sense

One of the main problems is.......
December 29, 2011 4:33 am

Being someone who also works with teenagers I have found one of the biggest issues that we have to deal with is some of the parents of these children. From a very young age these children hear their parents curse out their schools, teachers, the gabboyim in shul the rabbonim in the community etc. What do you think that this causes when the children grow up with this? I was once in shul and I heard a father call his sons Rosh yeshiva by a nickname, poke fun at the Mashpia in the Yeshiva and openly speak badly about one… Read more »

guts
December 29, 2011 12:11 am

nice to see at least one voice stating the obvious. except i don’t agree that making it treif makes the problem worse. people need to learn how to make choices, not be told to avoid them. true one should not create the ability to trip, but something like internet is there anyway. the real issue is that leaders and educators don’t have the creativity and stimulation available to counter the internet. their offering of old-style stuff falls limp when compared to that which is avaialble digitally today. the few who are making hi-class educational stuff and who embrace technology do… Read more »

im all for comment #6 :)
December 28, 2011 10:44 pm

i cant wait either! lol 😉

yayayaayy! can't wait for my parents to read this article!
December 28, 2011 9:50 pm
love is all you need
December 28, 2011 9:26 pm

kids are in homes with “hidden sholom bayis” issues. they need love, they need attention and THEY NEED PARENTS WHO ARE WORKING OUT THEIR OWN ISSUES. that is why kids are filling in gaps.
Yossi Jacobson has talked about it too.

Example
December 28, 2011 7:38 pm

You live by example. You want your kid to say Brachos out loud, then you have to say them out loud, etc.

Wow
December 28, 2011 7:18 pm

He’s right. It’s a tricky thing raising a teen. If you forbid everything they’ll rebel, but if you give them too much room there’ll be no rules and they’ll still be “at risk”. So what do you do?

positive
December 28, 2011 6:54 pm

lets keep this discussion positive if you dont agree dont make fun
moshiach now

happy to write the first comment
December 28, 2011 6:46 pm

good that he write’s “internet is not THE problem” b/c there is still a problem

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