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well written
August 13, 2020 11:36 pm

*claps*

ImyH soon!
August 13, 2020 11:38 pm

I appreciate that this article was written with such a respectful tone. Even if the reader of this article decides not to wear a mask in public, this article did not bring any more hurt or negativity into the world. That is something worth celebrating.
Thank you for sharing a message in a positive and eloquent manner.
Moshiach now!

Wrong
August 13, 2020 11:51 pm

I feel for you being concerned about your pre existing conditions. However, your argument is not rooted in science but fear and propaganda. A mask will only prevent herd immunity. Nothing more, nothing less. What you need is for the younger healthy people to actually catch it and build immunity. Others will then develop t cell immunity. Buts let’s start with the fact that the PCR test used to test for Covid are also not scientifically sound. In fact, the virus has never been purified or isolated. Here’s a link, but I’m sure you won’t read it. https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/ Let me… Read more »

Easy
Reply to  Wrong
August 14, 2020 3:09 am

She wrote a respectful article. Please next time respond respectfully!

Berel
Reply to  Easy
August 14, 2020 3:09 pm

The only response some will consider respectful is yesirr right on it we’ll all wear masks forever and ever regardless of any other concern be it scientific or personal.

Wrong
Reply to  Wrong
August 14, 2020 7:22 am

Even mild cases of covid can cause long lasting complications and damage to various parts of the body. I know this first hand as do many others. And we don’t yet have the full picture due to the novelty of this virus.

One "Impressive" doctor
Reply to  Wrong
August 14, 2020 10:22 am

OK…so even if you don’t completely believe the world’s most respected scientists, even if they’re a bit more extreme than your belief system – still, if everyone in the store wore a mask, my aunt could go shopping. If everyone on the streets of CH wore a mask, my aunt could go for a walk. This is a community of chesed – will you really try to rationalize away a simple act of chesed?? For Heaven’s Sake – literally! – just wear a mask and be a mentch. It’s t hat simple. I guarantee you that my aunt has gone… Read more »

Nope
Reply to  One "Impressive" doctor
August 16, 2020 12:52 am

“Yes please for chesed” give me a break the best chesed we can do is to get it and get over it not mess up the whole world. The number of suicide and suicide attempts are way up (more then covid deaths) where is the chesed for those ppl?

Masks do harm
Reply to  One "Impressive" doctor
August 16, 2020 8:25 pm

Masks can harm and only work when worn appropriately and properly. Please hear the experts that specialize in the field. You tube: tammy clark and kristen meghan

There is a cure for covid
Reply to  Wrong
August 16, 2020 8:48 pm

Please look at Dr. Zev Zelenko’s Twitter as well as Dr. Simone Gold, Dr. James Todaro for more info…

Complainers in the Desert !
Reply to  Wrong
August 15, 2020 10:16 pm

I am sorry you are willing to sacrifice your children and mine so that you may or may not get this “herd immunity” People who get COVID 19 and survive are still experincing long term medical issues.I wouldn’t wish this on my enemy let alone my familly and community.

Wishing everyone refuah shelaima Moshiach Now!
August 14, 2020 12:02 am

I have breathing difficulties when I wear a mask

Neighbor
Reply to  Wishing everyone refuah shelaima Moshiach Now!
August 14, 2020 7:54 am

So do I. So I wear it anyway in a store to protect others, and quickly take care of what I need to in the store, then go out and remove my mask.

One "Impressive" doctor
Reply to  Neighbor
August 14, 2020 10:23 am

And so do I. But that doesn’t mean I will go out at my convenience and compromise my friends.

Google tammy clark and kristen meghan
Reply to  One "Impressive" doctor
August 16, 2020 8:31 pm

Your mask is useless against the virus. It doesn’t even protect against dust which is a far larger partical. All it does is compromises your health. It is interesting to note how the mask mandates were implented only after the corona numbers were plunging already.

Face shield
Reply to  Wishing everyone refuah shelaima Moshiach Now!
August 14, 2020 10:45 am

If you have difficulty breathing then you can at the very least wear a face shield. They sell at MP

Neighbor
Reply to  Wishing everyone refuah shelaima Moshiach Now!
August 14, 2020 6:10 pm

So how would it feel if you were told- breathing difficulties with a mask? So stay home!? As many stores out of CH keep to – no mask, no entry. That would mean you’d need to stay at home and not shop!! That’s what it feels like for older people who are stuck at home and can’t go into a store!!

Crown Heights Jewish Resident
August 14, 2020 12:05 am

This isn’t totally accurate. I am the first to get on businesses for not enforcing mask rules. But lately I have noticed that some businesses have gotten better about it. And people are wearing masks more in the grocery store. And one hosiery store does have a very strict mask policy (I shop there.) Yes, some businesses I walk in and I walk right out cause the employees and/or the customers aren’t wearing masks. But we have to give credit and praise to our businesses that are doing the mask thing. And there are some.

Well said
August 14, 2020 12:08 am

“A miracle would be nice , but even as we Daven for one, HaShem has given us masks.”
This is a beautiful line and great letter.
This also applies to people who have grandparents living with them and can’t risk being exposed to the virus. Or those who have donated organs. We should all be extra cautious in crown heights even if the numbers have gone down.

Good point
August 14, 2020 12:11 am

I’m young, in my twenties, and I wear a mask walking down Kingston avenue even though it’s been extremely rare recently. Do I feel a bit self-conscious? Sure. Do I think it’s the right thing to do? Absolutely.

A great example for us all
Reply to  Good point
August 14, 2020 10:02 am

#mensch

Why?
Reply to  Good point
August 16, 2020 8:32 pm

You’re being mislead.

I for one will
August 14, 2020 12:21 am

Start wearing a mask in the stores!

Mendel G
August 14, 2020 12:45 am

Dear neighbor. I wish we could get in contact because you seem to be hurting for no reason. People not wearing masks are not preventing you from going shopping, they aren’t better than wearing nothing. There are not enough active cases for you to have any serious chance of getting sick. Only sick people can transmit the disease. The cdc said asymptomatic spread Is rare at best. Check out adoctoraday.com . Please remember that Hashem is watching you and wants what is best for you. Nothing is someone else’s fault ever. We must try to make the best of our… Read more »

Incorrect
Reply to  Mendel G
August 14, 2020 10:04 am

That is absolutely not true and an incorrect read of the study. “Assymptomatic” and “pre-symptomatic” are not the same thing AT ALL.
Meaning that yes, people can and do walk around BEFORE developing symptoms and spread.

One "Impressive" doctor
Reply to  Mendel G
August 14, 2020 10:27 am

Thank you for these encouraging words. I have enough empathy to realize that it’s uncomfortable for you to wear a mask. So, I understand the simple pleasure of being comfortable. I’ll just stay home. Enjoy the sunshine!
As for your medical recommendations – I will continue to trust Hashem, and the expert scienctific wisdom He’s made available to those who are called scientists.

Mendel G
Reply to  One "Impressive" doctor
August 14, 2020 11:21 am

I never said that I don’t wear a mask because it’s uncomfortable. I don’t wear a mask because it is useless. I am not sick and there is no way I can spread a virus that I don’t have. If I was sick I would stay home. BH there are many doctors and scientists. Many of them say exactly what I am saying, that’s where I got it from, I would never ch”v want to put someone else’s life at risk. It’s just that I plain and simply are not putting you’re or anyone else’s life at risk by not… Read more »

Question
Reply to  Mendel G
August 14, 2020 1:07 pm

But what if you’re sick and you don’t even know it? What if the symptoms haven’t shown themselves yet?

Nope
Reply to  Question
August 16, 2020 1:00 am

Whatifism at it’s best. And what if it comes back. And what if they dont find a cure and what if and what if. U stay inside locked up I’ll enjoy my life with my family and friends who all had it and have gotten over it months ago. But but what if….

I'm cracking up
Reply to  Nope
August 17, 2020 6:14 pm

I absolutely did not say to stay inside locked up. I just said to wear a mask. No need to be dramatic.

Seriously?
Reply to  Mendel G
August 14, 2020 11:44 pm

mask simply cuts down your ability to spread, as it mostly contains your outputs

Not true
Reply to  Seriously?
August 16, 2020 8:34 pm

It’s as useless as using a chain link fence to keep mosquitoes out

Its interesting...
Reply to  Mendel G
August 17, 2020 4:55 am

That the people who are skeptical about the usefulness of masks tend to be the young and healthy among us, while the elderly and those more at risk seem to believe the vast majority of doctors who say that masks can help… There is a famous parable from the dubno maggid where the guy shot arrows at a wall and then painted bulls eyes around them. So you were able to find some people/svaros against masks. Shkoyach. Now why dont you use the same energy finding svaros and people who are pro mask and see what you come up with.… Read more »

Nope
Reply to  One "Impressive" doctor
August 16, 2020 12:58 am

The scientists say that masks dont work for viruses and some if not most of the ones ppl wear actually make it worse so tell me again y I should wear a mask?

Grateful we Left
Reply to  Mendel G
August 14, 2020 11:20 am

Please keep your ridiculous theories to yourself.
My family is in CH and I can’t visit.
Missing weddings and new babies. I’m afraid to travel and come across people who take chances that affect us. It’s people like you who are hurting the rest of us. Do I like being isolated. No
No I want to stay healthy for me and my family.
Yes !

Chances?
Reply to  Grateful we Left
August 16, 2020 8:40 pm

Science does not support your claim. You are being lied to. No one is hurting you. You are hurting yourself by wearing the mask. It strains your oxygen intake and touching it brings the virus that sits on any surface to your face. It also lowers your immune system so if you do catch it you’re at a much higher risk.

Tante Yentel
August 14, 2020 12:48 am

Well said

Live and let live
August 14, 2020 12:52 am

Sorry for your situation. Every experienced doctor will admit that Masks do not offer complete protection. Looks like even if every single person will wear a mask, it still won’t enable you to leave your house.
Looks like Collive is on a mask campaign. People are sick and tired of this. We want to live like normal civilized people.
If you still have any doubts as to how much people in CH are willing to do to save lives – just look at the amount of people from our community that were pioneers in donating plasma

To the contrary
Reply to  Live and let live
August 14, 2020 1:48 am

Seems to me collive is on an anti mask campaign…. they post pics of events and L’chaims showing ppl without masks and no social distancing whatsoever

Agree !!
Reply to  To the contrary
August 14, 2020 9:57 am

Collive is trying to show that CH is back to normal . Tha t is a big problem , because all the out of towners now think CH is OK to come to

Amazed how people can just do nothing for 6 Months
Reply to  Agree !!
August 14, 2020 11:58 am

So you would like for us to stay “not-normal” so you can continue to sit at home and not do anything with your life (aside from collecting unemployment) and justify it by telling everyone your are “saving lives”

One "Impressive" doctor
Reply to  Live and let live
August 14, 2020 10:30 am

First of all, we’re not pioneers in this. And it’s not like everyone in CH donated either. “Every experienced doctor” – really, you checked them all out?? And, with all due respect, if every single person on the planet wore a mask, the virus wouldn’t be transmitted. Period. Again, your ignorant and cavalier attitude towards this writer’s safety is astounding! We’re talking about a simple act – it’s not like wearing wool tzitzis and capote or stockings and sheitel in 90degree weather! There’s a lot we do that’s not so comfortable, but we do it for ourselves. How about a… Read more »

YAY SOLUTION TO ALL ISSUES!!
August 14, 2020 12:53 am

First of all, says who a mask will be the magic thing that will prevent you from getting the virus? If only it would be that simple. I’ve heard first hand accounts of how doctors, I mean real doctors (not the ones who write all the articles and scream at everyone all day and every day – like the non arrogant ones yknow) that every time they come into a meeting and close the door, boom the masks come right off! The main reason why some people don’t leave their house, is because of the professional anxiety creators and fear… Read more »

embarrassing
Reply to  YAY SOLUTION TO ALL ISSUES!!
August 14, 2020 4:29 am

you are the shandeh. shame on you. were you not affected by all the deaths, funeral after funeral….people still in the hospital fighting for their lives. this is a real pandemic not fear mongering by the media. panic attacks would not be necessary if you did your civic duty and put on a mask. you are selfish beyond reason. elul is here, rosh hashana is around the corner…..you have a lot of work to do.

Please read
Reply to  embarrassing
August 14, 2020 9:25 am

Most people within our community, have suffered one way or another from coivd, the passing of a father,mother,uncle, or dear friend, i don’t believe anybody is down playing the severity of the situation, but to say that not wearing masks is the cause of this, and to say that it will prevent it, is a little much, more dr’s say that it it really doesn’t help, but to keep people feeling safe, keeping to what the governor wants, and avoiding fights, its better to wear one, CH had been pretty much covid free for the last month or two, yes… Read more »

Nope
Reply to  embarrassing
August 16, 2020 1:08 am

Civic duty is to stand up to the unlawful dictatorship that we have now in NYS yes we HAD a pandemic but it has passed anything that has happened in the past 2 months in pure politics and fear mongering. Get over yourself amd let us move on with life

Thank you for sharing your experience
August 14, 2020 1:37 am

Is humble and well written your post. I would love to see in general people arousing more love and considerations for others. COVID 19 has been a blessing because now everyone has some enforced and strict rules , however every year on Hannukah or Purim careless parents for the “sake of mitzvos” take sick children to shul or events or adults with FLU go to shul disregarding olders and where I live some people open the mikva despite being closed due COVID because they are so “holy ” and we are raising a generation of Idiot Pious . But also… Read more »

to "Thank you for sharing your experience"
Reply to  Thank you for sharing your experience
August 14, 2020 2:51 am

dont call some one an idiot for metsiris nefesh

100%
August 14, 2020 2:15 am

I am not sure why the crown heights community does not wear masks. They are equal to all communities, within health matters. Whether they were hit bad with Covid-19 or not, masks are still a necessity. I totally understand that Crown Heights is safe and protected from the spread of Covid-19. Or at least so they think. New discoveries are coming about that the spread of Covid is contagious in many different shapes and forms. No one knows what is going to spread, or how it’ll spread, but we have to do our best to keep safe. Therefore, we have… Read more »

And why?
Reply to  100%
August 14, 2020 11:57 am

Why is it a necessity? Because stupid politicians said so? Because the news said so? We live in the United States, we have our rights and freedoms, everyone has a right to wear a mask if they want.

And why?
Reply to  100%
August 14, 2020 12:08 pm

Why is it a necessity? Because stupid politicians said so? Because the news said so? We live in the United States, we have our rights and freedoms, everyone has a right to wear a mask if they want.

Nope
Reply to  100%
August 16, 2020 1:14 am

Are u kidding me kids should wear masks. If you know anything or care about education u will know and understand that requiring kids and staff to wear masks will cause longer term emotional damage. You say make a kiddish hashem how? By going along with what the government says by shuttering shuls amd schools where is the mesiras nefesh oir grandparents had in Russia fighting for chinuch? The damage that was done is almost irreversible
NO MASKS IN SCHOOLS. NO MASKS FOR KIDS!!!

Masked Jerusalem
August 14, 2020 2:56 am

This is a really nicely written article. Kudos! I live in the center center of Yerushalayim, and we are all masked here. We get fined if we don’t. With that being said, wearing masks DID NOT prevent the “second wave” here, and it also IS NOT helping it go away. Israel closed down super early and super fast, so they halted the virus in it’s tracks. However, the virus HAS to make its way around in order to be done and over with it. Therefore, once we opened up, the virus was finally allowed to spread so that we can… Read more »

BH just me.
August 14, 2020 3:39 am

Hydroxchloroquine and zinc. Or quercetin and zinc to prevent the virus.

Just Put On A Mask And Go To The Fish Store.
August 14, 2020 3:47 am

I’m not sure why the writer is so worried. Let her wear a mask herself, problem solved. If she wears a mask she will be safe from CoronaVirus. I don’t see why she blames everyone for not wearing a mask causing her to be locked inside.

Anonymous
Reply to  Just Put On A Mask And Go To The Fish Store.
August 14, 2020 9:16 am

Both parties need to be wearing masks for ultimate protection

Incorrect
Reply to  Just Put On A Mask And Go To The Fish Store.
August 14, 2020 10:08 am

Are you serious? Have you not been reading anything put out by the actual science and medical community? Non-respirator masks do the most for preventing droplet and aerosols FROM the wearer and do less to protect the person wearing. Meaning that for it to work, all parties need to wear.

Wear a mask.
August 14, 2020 6:34 am

Best case situation – you potentially SAVE a life. (Or at least allow those cooped up at home for months to take a breath of fresh air)

Very worse case situation – you have an extremely uncomfortable and itchy piece of material over your face for a period of time.

As Chassidim who go lifnim meshuras hadin, ESPECIALLY in the realm of Ahavas Yisroel, the answer is obvious.

In the zechus of our ahavas chinam, may we be Zoche to a time of guaranteed health for us all with Moshiach now!

Devora Lein
August 14, 2020 7:26 am

You can wear a N95 mask and go shopping in stores outside of Crown Heights- Trader Joes, Whole Foods, Food Town, there are many stores in NYC where everyone wears masks. Also you can take a walk in the park and stay away from people and keep on your mask. I suggest you speak with a doctor to find out what you can do even if people in Crown Heights don’t wear masks. You and your husbands mental health is very important as well.

Well said
August 14, 2020 7:47 am

Well said. This is true for many people, older and some younger as well. My elderly grandparents live in my house and so we are all extremely careful. We haven’t been to shul since Purim, and we still wear masks out. This was our choice because we do not want to even RISK getting sick around our grandparents CV. It’s true that masks aren’t a guarantee. It’s true that they don’t fully protect you. But the deal with masks are that they protect OTHERS. When someone wears a mask, they are protecting the other person near them. Besides for blocking… Read more »

Blame Game
August 14, 2020 7:49 am

Sure you can blame us for not wearing a mask, but should everyone suffer for the few minorities.
There are steps you can take, to ensure your safety, but don’t put the burden on others.

Your choice affects others
Reply to  Blame Game
August 14, 2020 7:59 am

It’s not about putting the burden on others. It’s about recognizing that whether you like it or not, what you do or don’t do DOES have an effect on other people.

Oh please
Reply to  Your choice affects others
August 14, 2020 9:29 am

Fact: you can only spread coronavirus if you have it. Most likely if you’re symptomatic e.g. cough or spit on someone else.
If you don’t have the coronavirus, what you do it don’t do DOESN’T have an effect on other people. The chance of you having asymptomatic coronavirus especially if you were careful to wash your hands and not lick contaminated surfaces is as close to 0 as possible in crown heights now.
So spare me.

Where is your care for others?
Reply to  Blame Game
August 14, 2020 8:11 am

This is the most selfish thing I have read in a while

Really?!?!
Reply to  Blame Game
August 14, 2020 10:10 am

”suffer?!?!” I can’t even believe I’m reading this from people who are supposed to care about ahavas yisroel and pikuach nefesh. And quite frankly are the same people who wear wool underwear and wigs and nylons in the middle of a blazing summer day!

Blame Game
Reply to  Really?!?!
August 14, 2020 11:56 am

Love how you bring random facts into this. Let the writer buy some N95’s, a face shield and call it a day.

One "Impressive" doctor
Reply to  Blame Game
August 14, 2020 2:41 pm

Hm…I guess you tell your dentist to not bother with a mask, or the person who’s serving your food in the restaurant, or the emt who comes to you when you suddenly don’t feel well…I guess you tell them all they don’t need a mask, just to give you one and you’re good to go….they shouldn’t feel the need to be uncomfortable…..yes?

Neighbor
Reply to  Blame Game
August 14, 2020 7:35 pm

Who says that your discomfort with wearing a mask is more justified than the life of someone In a “minority”? And just to be clear- I travelled out of New York and every single person in every single store, hotel, hiking trail, attractions was wearing a mask!! They were “living life” too- just with a mask! So it’s possible to do! It’s just that people here in CH can’t be bothered to. And that’s not a valid excuse to cast off the “minority” in CH into their homes. It’s actually quite unbelievable that as Jews, who fight to save every… Read more »

A senior
August 14, 2020 7:57 am

I bought this mask. It protects you alot more than a regular mask. “Shop Sonoviatech Masks – Sonovia” https://sonoviatech.com/shop/

Responsible
August 14, 2020 8:12 am

There are things you can do to strengthen your immunity, you can’t put it on other people to protect you.
It seems you’re very scared and think that other people wearing masks will protect you.
It doesn’t work that way, it’s just a speculation

NONSENSE
August 14, 2020 8:43 am

This mindset would’ve made sense two months ago – but now there are virtually no cases in Crown Heights. In addition, if you are leaving the house to do a quick shopping trip, if you socially distance, it is basically impossible to catch it in Crown Heights. If you think like this, for the next 10 years everyone is going to have to wear a mask while shopping or at shul. You have to look at what’s happening now – Crown Heights essentially has herd immunity. It has what most countries and cities in the world don’t. And maybe, it… Read more »

Poor woman
August 14, 2020 8:57 am

The problem is that this poor woman was given the understanding that the general population needs to be masked – – a position that at least 50% of this country’s population takes strong, serious issue with.

This is besides the point made in the comments that there are many many medical professionals who disagree with mass masking.

May Hashem protect you and guard you from all harm.

No End In Sight
August 14, 2020 9:36 am

If there was a clear end in sight, people would wear masks. With no end in sight, and considering 95% of our community in CH got Covid six months ago, it isn’t realistic to expect thousands of people to wear masks in the boiling heat for a handful of people. As others have suggested, it would be best for you to shop in stores outside of CH that do enforce mask rules.

Really?!?!
Reply to  No End In Sight
August 14, 2020 10:13 am

Really??? But we wear wool shirts and black coats and a black hat and not a straw fedora in the blazing heat….
But a square of cotton is just too much…?
Seriously people. Be consistent at least.

Excuse me
Reply to  Really?!?!
August 16, 2020 10:29 pm

We are not looking to add any more chumrah’s like the ladies need to wear in Iran. No thanks. We’ve got enough already. Especially since masks harm and do NOT stop the virus spread. They may even exacerbate the further spreading of germs…

Some of these comments are shameful
August 14, 2020 10:03 am

Seriously? This writer has every legitimate reason to be afraid to go outside in crown heights. Masks should be more enforced and if you go outside of crown heights, EVERYONE is wearing a mask. What makes us different? The fact that majority of our community got Covid back in March and April? So what? What about the people who didn’t? What about the elderly who are still very much suseptible? What about people with pre existing conditions? Not wearing a mask is a complete disregard for your fellow Yidden who can potentially get sick and die due to your “need”… Read more »

Exactly
Reply to  Some of these comments are shameful
August 14, 2020 10:39 am

You read my mind. Well said.

All frum communities
Reply to  Some of these comments are shameful
August 14, 2020 11:24 am

Um, have you been to any other frum communities in and around New York?

Boro Park, flatbush, Williamsburg, lakewood, monsey and don’t even ask about the Catskills.

We can argue both sides civilly, but please let’s stick to the facts: there is hardly any mask wearing in all of the frum communities. It’s untrue and unfair to single out crown heights.

Repeating a lie does not make it true
Reply to  Some of these comments are shameful
August 16, 2020 10:41 pm

The very politicians promoting masks and social distancing in the name of saving lives are the same that forced contagious covid19 patients back into nursing homes and joined/actively promoted the violent ‘protests’ where thousands of people did not wear masks or social distance. The obvious double standard is astounding. If you still trust what they say I have a Brooklyn bridge to sell you…

CH Resident
August 14, 2020 10:07 am

Thank you to the writer of this article. This issue has bothered me since day one of the pandemic. For some reason, anywhere you go in NYC, most people will be wearing masks. But for whatever justification, when you come to the streets of crown heights, no one respects their fellow jew and community members enough to wear a mask. Where is the condemnation from Rabbonim and community leaders? How is 770 open as usual without any social distancing or mask wearing? How do shules hold kiddushim and other events, without a care in the world. Have we forgotten the… Read more »

C h
Reply to  CH Resident
August 14, 2020 11:14 am

We almost all had it. There’s herd immunity at this point. So wear a mask when your indoors with a lot of people or if you go out of town but in the street is fine

With this NOVEL coronavirus
Reply to  C h
August 14, 2020 1:10 pm

How can you be so sure?

Mendel G
Reply to  CH Resident
August 14, 2020 11:32 am

Somehow 770 has been open for weeks and no one has gotten sick. According to your logic how is that possible? Maybe it’s because everyone is healthy and therefore can’t spread the disease?

Not true
August 14, 2020 10:40 am

I went to went to Empire Kosher and the Market Place and mascs are enforced so not not sure what you are referring to. Shul is a different story

Hydroxy
August 14, 2020 10:50 am

I know many ppl with compromised immune systems, diabetes, obesity, old age, etc that got the virus, took hydroxychloroquine and zinc and are walking around just fine. The narrative that a mask will do the trick is such a false narrative and a false sense of protection. Social distancing is the best prevention but that’s up to each individual. We need to stop shaming and imposing mask mandates on people. Let everyone make their own choice. There are many respected docs who say masks don’t work. So let’s not make this black and white. Live your life and let others… Read more »

One "Impressive" doctor
Reply to  Hydroxy
August 14, 2020 2:49 pm

It IS black and white. And those who care more about themselves, trust youtube and google for information, and are purely selfish – they Deserve to be Shamed!

Nope
Reply to  One "Impressive" doctor
August 16, 2020 1:28 am

You do you and stay locked up until the vaccine. I’m going to live my life especially being that I had it months ago

I am also immunocompromised
August 14, 2020 11:26 am

Thank you for your post, writtten with such refinement. I am in the same situation as you are. I cannot understand why the beautiful residents of Crown Heights don’t get that at least 30% of us have not had coronavirus. Many of us are older and have health conditions, and are at extremely severe risk. Masks are only one part of the total package of avoiding coronavirus. All the scientific experts agree that if everyone in the USA was careful about coronavirus–social distancing, not being in crowded environments especially not inside where there is no ventilation, wearing masks when you… Read more »

Masks etc
Reply to  I am also immunocompromised
August 16, 2020 9:27 am

Re: Social distancing and mask wearing.
All the protesting wo masks and social distancing did not increase number of cases. Please tnink people.

Move to California
August 14, 2020 11:49 am

Is this a real story? A real old lady writing this letter? Or maybe potentially some random democrat in crown heights (if that exists) who is pro masks and what’s to get their word out there that everyone should wear masks and This is the only way they’d Be heard?

Wtvr the case , move to California. Masks are mandatory everywhere.

Mask or no mask, stay inside.
August 14, 2020 11:54 am

An interesting observation, I read recently an article of a couple who were extremely careful about wearing masks, gloves, and using all kinds of sanitizer. Shockingly they somehow got the virus regardless of all their efforts. It’s unclear exactly how this virus moves around, and how long it lasts, but it may be the right thing for you to stay inside regardless of people wearing or not wearing masks…

Michelle
Reply to  Mask or no mask, stay inside.
August 16, 2020 11:50 am

If the people they were around didn’t wear masks they could still get it. Masks offer only limited protection for the wearer. That is why it’s incumbent upon all of us to do the right thing and wear masks to protect those around us.

You can go shopping
August 14, 2020 11:55 am

The only thing holding you back is your belief in the media’s propaganda. If masks are so important, how come no one in crown heights has gotten sick in months? Why aren’t cases spiking back up, and causing large number of deaths (c”v)? Use your brain and statistics instead of news channels for your information

Mask or no mask, stay inside.
August 14, 2020 11:59 am

Those who say “Chillul Lubavitch” and “it’s only CH” that’s not being careful. Just saying you’ve been in a bubble – plenty other neighborhoods who aren’t careful about masks, and time will tell if it helped at all. I apologize in advance for not adhering to your beliefs in masks. I wore one up until I had antibodies. Currently there is ZERO known cases WORLDWIDE of someone who tested positive and then negative (even if they after tested positive), or with antibodies and then testing positive (dubious of how many real cases of this happening) passing the virus onto someone… Read more »

Suggestion
August 14, 2020 12:07 pm

In the beginning a lot of media was causing people to have the virus in their minds more then in reality. I did walk in the street and hear a young boy endlessly repeat “corna corna you have corna.” (That doesn’t mean to say that the virus was not a lot here then) but my point is people shouldn’t go around with the mindset like certain people did when they came out of the holocaust, but there minds are, till today in the holocaust. Take the precaution by wearing a mask but try to first go for a walk on… Read more »

Masks are not necessary
August 14, 2020 2:14 pm

In NYC, especially Crown Heights people currently infected with Covid-19 is almost zero. So since I am healthy and I know that I do not have Covid-19, what exactly is my wearing a mask or social distancing protecting you from? Would you wear a mask if you were the only one in your car? I assume no, because there’s no point. Well there’s no point in having healthy people wear masks in a store either. If they had Covid-19, they would be home.

Wrong about case numbers.
Reply to  Masks are not necessary
August 16, 2020 12:00 am

There were 2,281 NEW Covid cases in New York City this past week. That’s about 325 cases a day. How is that zero?

NYC has millions of people.
Reply to  Wrong about case numbers.
August 16, 2020 4:31 pm

Yes, 325/day out of millions of people.

Positive tests are inaccurate
Reply to  Wrong about case numbers.
August 16, 2020 8:20 pm

A neighbor’s nasal swab came out positive but the more accurate blood test came back negative. The numbers of cases are highly inaccurate and are being used to scare the living daylight out of people. Some tests show positive when in touch with dead viral particals from months ago. We are being mislead by the politicians and ‘experts’ who have a financial incentive to prolong the fear and push for treatment that they will profit from.
Please look at Dr. Zev Zelenko’s Twitter as well as Dr. Simone Gold, Dr. James Todaro for more info….

Peace To All
August 14, 2020 2:17 pm

Beautifully written and compassionate article, succinct and to the point. I pray for your miracle and that soon you can go out and about. For all the people who say they can’t breath or it is bothersome to wear a mask, do you mind it when your surgeon wears a mask? I am sure it is hard to stand there for hours on end trying to save your life while breathing through it. Do you tell your dentist, “oh don’t bother, I know it is annoying to wear it as you stand over me” if it’s good enough them laboring… Read more »

Bad Idea
August 14, 2020 6:43 pm

Masks aren’t reliable enough and if everyone wore them it would give you a false sense of security.

Hmmm
August 15, 2020 9:33 pm

So does that mean you go to trader joe and shop rite? Sounds like you don’t which means it doesn’t have to do with the masks at all. You are still fearful. Not sure what your solution is but it definitely shouldn’t be pointing fingers at others.

Complainers in the Desert !
August 15, 2020 10:12 pm

The Rebbe was a man of science .I think he would be very grieved that many yidden are turning to the soothsayers and the cultist of the time . I CHOOSE to stay home because I am older , I have breathing problems and it was enough to convince the NYCDOE that I could work from home. Truthfully I am more afraid of the adults who choose to disregard the health of others than I am of the children. When Korach et al decided to take matters into thier own hands it did not go well with them .I agree… Read more »

Life isn’t fair
August 16, 2020 9:04 am

We live in a democracy. People must make the best health choices for themselves & their families. That may be a decision to isolate , wear a mask etc. However, if someone does not have any underlying conditions why should they isolate , wear a mask in the heat or any other restrictions?
It’s unfair? Life isn’t fair. We need to live. We need to work & we need a functioning economy.
In the absence of a vaccine you need herd immunity to allow you to live a normal life & meet me in the shopping isles.

Being home for 6 month is not healthy at all
August 16, 2020 11:12 am

I’ll suggest your kids to take u out for upstate or to the beach to breath healthy air. And walk more … sorry but u are slow killing yourself and your husband by staying home for so long period.
Be healthy, wear a mask and gloves and go out, walk around and be healthy.
Don’t judge CH majority was sick already means less ppl can spread it.
And test yourself might be u had it too without any symptoms because u still has some groceries or other stuff coming to your house.

Anonymous
August 16, 2020 3:48 pm

This is a PANDEMIC! For goodness sake, this virus is deadly! It definitely won’t cost you to take precautions! Yes, we all wan’t to get back to normal; no corona weddings, no masks or gloves, no zoom celebrations, but it’s spreading before you know it! So please! Do more than a favor to your community and also for yourself, the Mitzvah of saving a persons life! Bezras Hashem, this pandemic will end with the coming of Moshiach right now and end this Golus already!!!

Scamdemic
Reply to  Anonymous
August 16, 2020 9:07 pm

Safe, effective early treatment is being suppressed. Useless, tyrannical mandates are being forced. Many needless deaths occurred because of outright negligence and malpractice by the city run hospitals… Just ask the hospital survivors if you want to hear the horror stories they experienced while unable to talk but fully cognitive. Add in the unnecessary deaths of the elderly at the nursing homes because of the governor’s mandate to accept covid infected patients there and you reach the level of premeditated murder.

wondering
August 17, 2020 8:05 pm

if there was a chance no matter how small, to safe someone’s life(even if it wasn’t guaranteed…) and you feeling uncomfortable wouldn’t last forever… wouldn’t we all jump to do it?

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if you want ppl to wear masks, sell them at cost
August 20, 2020 9:58 am

They are down to $6 for 50pk on ebay, walmart… w free shipping. Face masks provide a false sense of security, but I wear anyway. I get them free. if i had a retail store i would sell them 5/$1,or free for customers. Many simply lost or forgot to bring along or cant afford the dollar for each that is marketed here. ….

Shoshana
August 20, 2020 11:37 am

The Crown Heights Bais Din stated unequivocally that right now wearing a mask is a mitzvah. Your opinions and feelings on the subject are irrelevant. If you’re not wearing a mask in public you are not following a ruling of the Bais din.

Incredible
Reply to  Shoshana
August 20, 2020 3:51 pm

no one cares….no one…not the chessed lady who is busy bustling around helping people..not the guy you learn with or the people you worked with…not your favorite neighbor. the truth about people comes out…now

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