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I Got Annoyed When Counselors Didn’t Have WhatsApp

Op-ed: "When I directed a day camp, I was even frustrated that some counselors could not access WhatsApp. Now, I recognize that I was wrong on how I view the app and how it affects us." Full Story

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Mrs. Henny Karniel, 83, OBM

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Smartphones- not so smart
January 5, 2024 12:03 am

I still believe we could decide as a community to abandon smartphones.
When television came out, it was negated. Smartphones should also. The positive does not outweigh the negative. We don’t walk out of our houses with portable sinks. We can have a computer at home, and wait to use it when we get home. Our focus, attention and inner peace will return.
Our privacy and borders will be intact. We will be fully present in everything we think, say and do.

I agree
Reply to  Smartphones- not so smart
January 5, 2024 9:27 am

Too many people are not paying attention to the beauty around them. Instead they have their head and eyes down locked on their phone.
It is a big problem.

Not the chabad way
Reply to  Smartphones- not so smart
January 6, 2024 10:03 pm

We don’t ban things that can be used for good.

Smartphone- not so smart
Reply to  Not the chabad way
January 7, 2024 6:33 pm

Seems many diff types of people feel the bad outweighs the good. Just it would probably help if it came from the top down. Grassroots groups are also extremely important, but i think the Rabbonim missed an opportunity to say we should not use- to think ahead. But they could stand up now after seeing incredible damage done. TV, plus movies, plus internet? Plus distraction from being present with children, plus isolating all members of family to separate rooms, each in own world, plus yetzer hara to always check for incoming info, plus posting what used to be private… Yes,… Read more »

Our Schools Are Guilty As Well
January 5, 2024 12:19 am

Some of the schools in Crown Heights only send important information through whatsapp which is a huge disservice to parents who don’t want to have whatsapp and miss out the information. I recently sent my kid to school on a vacation day because the school had changed the vacation dates but sent the notification through whatsapp and home notes (which didn’t make it home to me from my preschooler) and I wasn’t on the whatsapp group and didn’t get the message. There’s at least one school that only sends home messages via whatsapp. It’s not fair to the parents that… Read more »

100%!!
Reply to  Our Schools Are Guilty As Well
January 5, 2024 10:30 am

I JUST had this discussion with someone in the administration of a certain department in my children’s school, asking if communications could be sent some way other than WhatsApp.
The response I got — instead of encoragement, or at least acceptance — was just excuses that showed that convenience trumps all else.
This, from a מוסד חינוך (!) where chinuch should be the priority (obviously), and they should be the first ones in society to discourage smartphone use (even by parents, since we are out kids’ role models — at every age).
A disgrace!

Not too long ago....
Reply to  Our Schools Are Guilty As Well
January 6, 2024 12:47 pm

Those very schools made us parents sign that we don’t have internet at home 🙂

If you think about you're phone
January 5, 2024 12:55 am

Does you use it or does it use you

Lead please
January 5, 2024 1:03 am

The role of the school is to lead.

I’m pretty sure that replacing that important role with “raising awareness” with the parents is not going to do the trick.

With every parent you have another opinion and trust me they are all aware of this huge issue and wish the school would actually do their job and *lead*.

Groupme
January 5, 2024 7:48 am

I was a counselor in an overnight boys camp where many of the staff did not have smartphones. They had feature phones. The camp set up a GroupMe system which worked very well

Blackberry
January 5, 2024 10:06 am

Honestly, I believe many people (Even Not jews) would love a dumb phone!

The problem is: A dumb phone with a proper keyboard (that’s compatible with cell carriers) DOES NOT EXIST!
I had a blackberry until a year ago when all major companies stopped carrying not 4g/5g phones…

a HUGE business Idea for whoever wants to do it would be to make a Blackberry style keyboard phone that’s compatible with the modern cellphone carriers with only talk and text.

Smartphone- not so smart
Reply to  Blackberry
January 7, 2024 6:37 pm

Totally agree. I was using alcatel from metropcs with qwirty keyboard, till since they were 3G, they would not work for 4,5 G. And model went out of stock as well.

gabb
Reply to  Blackberry
January 7, 2024 7:26 pm

look into gabb phones they have the same apps that a flip phone would have but has a screen and proper keyboard

new phones that carry apps
Reply to  Blackberry
January 9, 2024 12:33 am

Look in to Quinn phone, or Ecco phone.

I'm glad it's a conversation
January 5, 2024 10:39 am

it’s not about this app or that app. we have to stop and talk instead of blindly jumping on every bandwagon!

Not Techie
January 5, 2024 11:20 am

ive been dreaming about such an event. Im not techie and i wanted someone to hold my hand through this and help me out

Why are all the staff in school on phones
January 5, 2024 11:53 am

We don’t pay less tuition because staff are doing their personal things or checking social media on our kids time.

It’s easy for schools to tell the kids not to
January 5, 2024 11:55 am

Be on phones …. Bus monitor , on phone , bus driver ( chalila) on phone, teachers wearing a phone purse , rebbe ear piece , therapist browsing instagram , soccer coach – scrolling

Safetelecom
January 5, 2024 12:18 pm

KosherOS.com blocks channels

false
Reply to  Safetelecom
January 5, 2024 12:57 pm

there there is no way to complety block channles or a broswer on a andriod phone even with premuim services there is always and will be a loop hole

TAG does block it.
Reply to  false
January 8, 2024 12:54 pm

I use it.

Safetelecom
January 5, 2024 12:20 pm

Thekosheros. Com. Blocks channels

Love Whatsapp
January 6, 2024 9:59 pm

I’m so thankful for Whatsapp for bringing my entire family together, for connecting me with my shul, and the reservists missions group

My Daughter missed important msgs
January 7, 2024 11:07 am

My daughter was working in camp. She was the only one with a “dumb” phone. she often didn’t get important information because of it. Other girls were also constantly teasing her about it.
I’m grateful, that in school most of her friends have the same phone. It’s not just whatsapp. They know how to get other apps on their phones. Even with codes and blocks.

Balance
January 7, 2024 8:46 pm

While I understand restricting apps can be helpful, I think we should explore how to handle technology in a balanced way. Basic filtering and making no device time a regular thing.

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