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    How ‘Jewish’ is the Magen David?

    Rabbi Nachman Wilhelm of Online Smicha discusses if having the Star of David in a shul is problematic since its origin isn't known. Video

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    Rabbeinu Nachman
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    Rabbeinu Nachman

    The main thing is the 6 ktzavos directions reminding us all that Hashem is wherever.

    dear rabbi
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    dear rabbi

    are.u.ever hear about the koivetz that the rebbe made explaining based on kaboloh the meaning of the mogen david?
    I think the name of the professor the rebbe wrote was berchenko

    BH
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    BH

    I was always told Dovid HaMelech had a Mogen Dovid on his
    armor.

    look at the back of a dollar bill
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    look at the back of a dollar bill

    The stars form a mogan Dovid and was put on by Chaim Soloman the then treasurer of the U S. 90 years ago.imagine how many Mogan Dovids the Rebbe MHM gave out…

    To #3
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    To #3

    Heard the same

    Sefer Riziel hamalach
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    Sefer Riziel hamalach

    What kinda talk is that?? ..”source unknown”??? In Sefer Riziel hamalach which is the sefer Adam Harishon received fro Reziel hamalach it has Magen Dovid symbols inside!!!!!!

    make a search in hebrewbooks.org
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    make a search in hebrewbooks.org

    some time ago i made a research about the מגן דוד
    and found countless sources of old books.
    including the concept of the magen dovid and ALSO
    the literly design and symbol.
    “books” referring to jewish seforim from jewish rabbeis threw all the generations.

    Dovid Hamelech
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    Dovid Hamelech

    There is no evidence that people in Dovid’s days put designs on their shields or armor. However it’s possible that a later Jewish army did use this symbol, and called it “Mogen Dovid” because it is made up of two deltas (one right side up and one upside down).

    Haym Salomon
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    Haym Salomon

    Haym Salomon was never treasurer of the USA! And paper money didn’t exist in his day. There is some bobbe mayseh that the stars on the seal of the USA were arranged in that shape at his request, but there’s no evidence at all for it and it’s very unlikely. It’s far more likely to have been a masonic thing.

    Rebbe said to remove off gate of CGI ?
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    Rebbe said to remove off gate of CGI ?

    I once heard, (not sure how accurate)
    That when the Rebbe went to visit CGI he wonderd why the symbol was on the entry gate.
    Before the Rebbe left it was removed.

    Tzorich Iyun
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    Tzorich Iyun

    tzorich iyun godol

    cgi
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    cgi

    My father was at cgi when the Rebbe came to the camp grounds before camp started .He told me the Rebba said to remove the magin dovid

    wow   interesting  hhmmmm
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    wow interesting hhmmmm

    to many above and especially to # 2 in general there are many kabalistic hidden gems in Zohar about this, there was a professor that came to the Frediker Rebbe asking him to explain to him the sources and meaning of the M.D. the Frediker Rebbe sent him to the Rebbe, and from there the Kovetz came out, In general it is known as # 10 writes, the Rebbe was never to happy with it, not because of the Magen David within itself, but rather for what it has become to resemble today, as we see with other things, Shvuos… Read more »

    TO 10
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    TO 10

    YES I HEARD IT FROM ONE WHO DROVE WITH THE REBBE ON VISIT TO CHECK OUT THE CAMP BEFORE THE SUMMER BEGAN

    CH'er
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    CH'er

    Rabbi Wilhelm please explain….

    Shoshanim Bein Hachochim??? where is the parallelism here to that,,, I am not challenging you at all,, just asking,, thanks

    former student
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    former student

    i dont understand the geshrai, why don’t you all listen to the whole shiur, knowing the rav, he never shoots from the hip, he always quotes his sources, so dont shoot the mailman, he is just saying the halacha viewpoint

    What about the Hamsa?
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    What about the Hamsa?

    Is a Hamsa a Jewish or a Moslem symbol?

    Rabbi Y.Ginsburg
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    Rabbi Y.Ginsburg

    from Kfar chabad relates to the symbol of magen david,
    i heard (not directly) in his name that it is a holy symbol and even jewelry should not be made of it.
    that explains (maybe) why the rebbe wanted it off the gate.

    Yesh loimar...
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    Yesh loimar...

    …that the Mogen Dovid signifies Creation. Six outer segments, the six days of the week, the center representing Shabbos. We are taught Shabbos begins from the previous wednesday to the following tuesday represented by three days made up of a downward (previous) triangle and three upward (following days). Also the Shabbos ‘center’ makes up an area the size of all the six days combined, as Shabbos includes all the days of the week. The two triangles, showing two ingredients of Shabbosness, represent Hashem’s Shabbos and our Shabbos, Shabbos of zman, and Shabos of mokom (the Mishkon), Shabbos hoRishon and Yom… Read more »

    To #16
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    To #16

    Halacha viewpoint? Halacha?

    Chaim Solomon
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    Chaim Solomon

    was G.W.’s main financier. He designed the seal that exists until this day.on the dollar,and he funded the war against the British.He died penniless.to # 17,hamsa is a Arabic for five,and is not Jewish for anything,but a goyishe superstition against the “evil eye” There is no evil eye in the world since the Rebbe.

    just a thought
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    just a thought

    The Rebbe may have wanted the mogen david removed from gan yisroel because as a social program (as opposed to a shul or the like which is exclusively religious), that it shouldn’t be cnfused with zionistic in the modern sense, especially since more modern Jewish children were also wanted in attendance.

    Not to confuse, but that it is nonetheless Kosher.

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