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How Does the Torah View Women?

Applied Chassidus with Rabbi Simon Jacobson: How does the Torah truly view women? Is “Tracht Gut Vet Zein Gut” the answer to every hardship? Video

Rabbi Meir Tzvi Gruzman, 82, OBM

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Women don't need many mitzvot because they are special
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Women don't need many mitzvot because they are special

Women don’t need mitzvos because they are more special….
Is this really the best R. Jacobson can come up with? we were taught this apologetic approach in grade school. It didn’t work then and it certainly does not work now.

It leaves so many unanswered questions. Just one of which is the fact that a woman’s testimony (with some exceptions) is simply not valid. Is that because in essence she is “more special” than a man?

Did you listen to what the Rabbi said?
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Did you listen to what the Rabbi said?

Is that what you heard — that women don’t need mitzvot because they are special?! I listened to what the Rabbi said, and I heard something very different: That the divine connection for some (men) is an act (a verb) and for others (women) its a state of being. Rabbi Jacobson was basically explaining the words of the Arizal that women embody time, therefore they are exempt from time related mitzvot.

Women should find the answer
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Women should find the answer

I think US ,WOMEN OURSELVES should strive to find the answers to these questions because these are for sure not complete answers. As much as I respect this Rabbi and many others, we cannot accuse them of saying what they say. We should be strong enough to explore who we really are OURSELVES and pray G-d to help us and deliver us. Good luck to us.

2. I did listen
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2. I did listen

Women are on a higher spiritual level.
Women are special
Women embody time

It all sounds so wonderful until you realise that these platitudes simply cover the fact that women are unequal to men in Judaism. I think a little more honesty would be a good place to start

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” Just one of which is the fact that a woman’s testimony (with some exceptions) is simply not valid. Is that because in essence she is “more special” than a man?” A woman’s testimony is “invalid” not because she’s not trusted, rather it is a technicality in the law. Torah law dictates that woman can’t be forced to testify because of mitzvas asay shehazman gromo. The law is, if you can’t be forced to do something then you can’t be yotzay someone else. Much like a Jewish king’s testimony is “invalid”. Not to say he’s not trusted g-d forbid but… Read more »

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The first question that needs to be addressed is do you want to connect to G-d and you feel slighted/unequal compared to men or do you simply want “equal rights”? Men and Woman are different full stop. Therefore we connect to g-d in uniquely different ways. It’s not better or worse it is simply different. If we take the Torah and it’s laws at face value it may seem that woman are treated unequally. Then again if we take the Torah at face value men would lay Teffilen on the bridge of their nose. The Torah places such tremendous value… Read more »

Number 6
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Number 6

Please give sources from the Torah that speak about the tremendous value of Jewish women!
From the Chumash, please!

Number 7
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Number 7

Woman have more understanding see parsha about Bnos tzlofchod. They are more understanding of gods will see story about tzipora and Moshe’s son. They are the real source of change in people see bereishis about Chava. They are more in tune and men must listen see vayera. If want more I’ll give

number 5
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number 5

Invalidation of women’s testimony has nothing to do with mitzvot asei she-ha-zeman grama.

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why is the “first question” what my motivation is?
I simply pointed out that R. Jacobson’s answer to the question of women’s equality is inadequate as the Torah is replete with instances of female inequality. If you think my premise is wrong based on your understanding of the sources than by all means disagree. but why does my personal motivation matter?
Questioning one’s motives is an easy way to avoid having to engage with the actual questions.

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number 6

“The woman’s role of raising a frum family is exponentially more dear than the man’s role.”
so now women are MORE important than men?

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Number 6

The problem with tying a woman’s significance (in God’s eyes) to raising a frum family is that it is limited to women in marriages, who are fertile, and who are of childbearing age. What about women who cant bear children? or women who cant get married? or women whose children have flown the nest?

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