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To #50 from #48
November 8, 2017 11:55 am

A Constitutional convention would have the power to change the Constitution, so by definition it could not possibly be unconstitutional.
The Atheists are already forcing people out of business for not baking “wedding” cakes for alternative “marriages” which actually is, unconstitutional. So claiming that they won’t do anything “unconstitutional” at the Constitutional convention is just liberal propaganda and a strawman argument. And unions have opposed Religious schooling so they are not so friendly to Frum communities.

To 51
November 7, 2017 10:45 pm

Unions have done a lot for many, including Jews. That does not give them a license to lie to the public, as they have in the campaign re: Proposition 1. It is not the Torah way to engage in lying tactics and to support that tactic. As already mentioned above, and as you know deep down, not even ONE state legislature will ever vote in term limits for themselves — let alone TWO successive state legislatures. You know that, but you keep honking the same horn anyway. Term limits would GREATLY benefit the Frum community, as already described above. SO:… Read more »

old place President st and Brooklyn ave
November 7, 2017 10:04 pm

tried to vote , they told me i have to go to Medger Evers college so i gave up,

How about this?
November 7, 2017 5:44 pm

We all vote, and we also work to improve the community council and עסקנים.
Everyone’s happy.

Vote No Prop 1
November 7, 2017 3:40 pm

Term limits and any other change to the state constitution can be effected by two successive legislatives voting for it and it then be presented to the public as a referendum. There is no public benefit in constitutional convention for the frum community. As many of the above commentators have stated the frum community does not have it’s needs met due to low voter turnout. Union membership is perhaps the single greatest factor in moving minorities including Jews into the middle class from poverty and should be supported and not distained.

To #48, from #43
November 7, 2017 3:28 pm

Has any other state done what you predict? NO! WHY? The answer: What you predict is against the US CONSTITUTION, so it would not fly. As for “what exactly I think a convention would change that would benefit frum Yidden,” the answer is: EXACTLY THIS: More Term limits for our elected officials in Albany: Frum Yidden need for the status quo to never get too entrenched and comfy-cozy in Albany. Otherwise, we can get stuck with state senators and assembly people, for life, who don’t have our best interests at heart. Also, term limits make it harder for “machine politics”… Read more »

To #48, from #43
November 7, 2017 2:29 pm

Has any other state done what you predict? NO! WHY? The answer: What you predict is against the US CONSTITUTION, so it would not fly. As for “what exactly I think a convention would change that would benefit frum Yidden,” the answer is: EXACTLY THIS: More Term limits for our elected officials in Albany: Frum Yidden need for the status quo to never get too entrenched and comfy-cozy in Albany. Otherwise, we can get stuck with state senators and assembly people, for life, who don’t have our best interests at heart. Also, term limits make it harder for “machine politics”… Read more »

To #43, RE: Constitutional convention.
November 7, 2017 1:34 pm

The country (and the world) are becoming more and more atheist and anti G-d.
With a Constitutional convention they could for example take away our Constitutionally protected first Amendment rights to follow our religion, which radical atheists, say is ‘abusive to children’.
That is just one of many negative possibilities that could come from a Constitutional Convention.
What exactly do you think that a Constitutional Convention would change that would benefit Frum Yidden, that would outweigh the rights and freedoms we have now, under the Constitution, as it is?

Why don't we keep the voting and community council issues separate?
November 7, 2017 1:04 pm

We need to vote because it’s our civic duty and so that our community is taken seriously by the politicians.

If you have a problem with the community council you could write an article about it and clearly state what you think should be done to rectify the situation.

Askon haters, did you think of this?
November 7, 2017 12:38 pm

If everyone voted for the other candidate, the “Askon” will not have his connections anymore once his guy loses.
Now are you going to go vote?

To those who don't like the Askonim
November 7, 2017 12:00 pm

Start your own advocacy groups and PACs.
Competition is good for everyone.

Vote for who YOU want, not for who the community council wants
November 7, 2017 9:44 am

Problems solved?

To #12: Don't believe the lies
November 7, 2017 9:44 am

Just look at who is against the constitutional convention: The Unions The Governor and other “career politicians” The Rich Special Interest Groups (both liberal and conservative!) ALSO don’t be so quick to say that “your civil servant neighbors” are all voting NO. AU CONTRAIRE! Many, many Union members use their critical thinking and research skills and know the game. As a result: anytime the Union says to vote a certain way, they know to vote the OTHER way! The myth about losing pensions is a bald-faced lie! Pensions are set by Union contract, between the union and the city/state/county, etc.… Read more »

DA & Mayor have nothing to do with Askonim
November 7, 2017 9:17 am

Last I checked the District Attorney decides if and how to punish criminals who hurt our kids, and we decide who the DA should be. Last I checked the Mayor decides who and how competent the police commissioner as well as the force is, and we choose the Mayor.

This has nothing to do with the Askonim and how badly the community council is doing its job.

Nothing justifies not voting
November 7, 2017 8:37 am

To those with legitimate complaints against the community council, if you vote for the other candidates they don’t endorse you can be taken seriously. If you sit home and do nothing, don’t expect anyone to take you seriously and rightfully so.

To 38
November 7, 2017 8:35 am

If WE had politicians who NEEDED our votes, THEY would change it.

November 7, 2017 8:34 am

To 31:
They worked hard to get where they are, and so can you.

To 32/”Cold winter”:
With a do-nothing defeatism like that we’re definitely screwed.

To 35:
Who you vote for is confidential.

To 37:
Of course, because by sitting home “the people” ask for nothing.

To #27 and #22 (#29)
November 7, 2017 8:30 am

The reason the police won’t make a report is not necessarily because of how much they do or don’t care. The fewer reports of crime are filed, the lower the supposed statistics of how much crime there is, so that the Mayor can claim that “crime went down” under his leadership. This was true for Bloomberg, and it is true as well for DeBlasio. Both administrations have pressured the individual precincts to make as few formal “in the system” reports of crime as possible. This also explains why, even when they do make a report, they often seem to have… Read more »

To #31
November 7, 2017 12:00 am

EXACTLY. It’s like being dictator for life. Heaven only knows what kind of kickbacks & sweetheart deals they get from elected officials, but one thing is sure…we the people get nothing.

if you don't even vote
November 6, 2017 11:34 pm

you can’t expect anyone else to pay attention to your issues

not true that no one will ever know who you selected
November 6, 2017 10:43 pm

you wrote “While every candidate you fill in on your ballot remains confidential and no one will ever know who you selected” this is so untrue!
when you sign in, they write a number next to your name in the book, AND on the ballot. Any idiot can look at the ballot and compare the number to the book.
That said, I plan to vote – REPUBLICAN – all the way down.
Actually changed my party affiliation because I’m tired of the bleeding heart democrats who are anti what America has stood for untill about 8 – 16 years ago!

Vote for the other candidate
November 6, 2017 10:02 pm

If you’re mad at the community council then vote for the candidates they’re not endorsing.
Not voting is just your unjustified laziness dressed up in deceptive excuses.

You can be upset at the community council and still vote
November 6, 2017 9:58 pm

What’s the connection, and how did some commentors confuse the issue here from elections to the community council? The community council’s problems is another issue for another day.

Cold winter
November 6, 2017 9:06 pm

I am going to be voting with my feet because I am disillusioned with the whole process we are screwed if we vote and scrowd if we don’t by the way in the past i did vote all i got was bupkes

complainng about askonim
November 6, 2017 8:54 pm

“become one yourself” halevai. The people in these positions werent elected to be there. and when people try to get into positions of askonus, the current “askonim” fight them tooth and nail, lest they lose their positions. So dont make it sound as if it is that simple. Everyone knows the facts–that the askonim dont advocate for the community, rather they act out of their own interests–and voting wont change that. Ultimately, two wrongs dont make a right, and we should all vote anyway, but the point remains the same. To the guy who mentioned winterization–I had the same story.… Read more »

November 6, 2017 7:28 pm

Complaining about Askonim? Become one yourself!
Complaining about police or the government? Vote!

Just complaining and not doing anything? Worthless!

To number 27: I am number 22
November 6, 2017 6:44 pm

You want the police to care? Vote, and then tell the politicians to make them care or they’ll lose your vote.
You don’t vote? Blame yourself and no one else!

To 27
November 6, 2017 6:41 pm

So the conversation went from voting for politicians to Askonim and now to desk clerks in the community council!

If we vote, the politicians will feel pressure to listen to us and make the cops care about our safety. Because no one votes the cops have no one making them do their job.

To number 22
November 6, 2017 6:22 pm

Please share with us unenlightened ones,what is it that they do? My car has been broken into twice in the last six months, the cops wouldn’t even make a report. is it perhaps affordable housing ? no, that only takes place in Other Frum communities. Maybe it’s different grants that the gov makes available to say, homeowners? Well Bidid Havai Uvda, I walked into the community council to ask for help with a winterization grant, and to my dismay all the guy asked me (aggressively If I may add) “who told you about it?” Of course in the end they… Read more »

To #14
November 6, 2017 5:32 pm

If you don’t like a candidate or his party, you vote for the other one.

You don't vote because of the Askonim?? Rubbish!
November 6, 2017 5:31 pm

You’re lazy and making believe you have a good reason.

Vote for Nicole Maliotakis, Republican
November 6, 2017 5:31 pm

A fine, ethical, politically savvy person.

You dislike the Askonim?? Become one yourself!!
November 6, 2017 5:30 pm

Don’t do nothing and just complain.

Start following this:
!אמור מעט ועשה הרבה

To: 10, 11, 17 & 20
November 6, 2017 5:28 pm

They ONLY benefit themselves? They do NO advocating for the community!?
You guys are cynical ignoramuses looking for excuses to justify your laziness.

School on Empire Blvd. & New York Av.
November 6, 2017 5:27 pm

Many people’s polls have moved there.

The sad part is:
November 6, 2017 5:16 pm

That 95 percent of the community will not vote, and who can blame them, no one sees any benefit from any of the elected officials at any level of government, the fact that so few show up to the polls should serve as a wake up call to those who claim to “represent” us, Do you people realize how little faith the typical community member has in you guys!? They won’t even show up to the polls! We are talking about a community that gives and looks out for each other, yet when it comes to matters of politics, people… Read more »

November 6, 2017 5:12 pm

When they said to vote certain candidate is because is good for the regular citizen,o because will benefit the big real estate families of crown heights?

To #1
November 6, 2017 5:01 pm

Many voting places (incuding Brooklyn Ave & President) have changed to the public school next to Beth Rivkah on Crown Street near Nostrand. You have to be in the door before 9 pm tomorrow Tuesday.
It’s easy. Just do it.

Agree w/ 10 and 11
November 6, 2017 4:59 pm

Honestly there is no point–voting helps only in so far as we as a community get involved with politicians, and in CH the people who are responnsible for doing that (the CHJCC) use their connections for themselves. They dont help the community. So I dont think it will help to go vote, we wont gain from it–only those who are involved w politicians, aka the CHJCC people, will benefit, and I have no interest helping them further their personal agendas

To #1
November 6, 2017 4:54 pm

That polling place was changed to the Public School near Bais Rivkah

Yes! Go vote!
November 6, 2017 4:36 pm

No excuses

who for
November 6, 2017 4:19 pm

Besides NOT voting for Blasio I wouldnt know whom I should vote for in other words like # 7

To #10 and #1
November 6, 2017 4:18 pm

It’s not about the Askonim, it’s about you having a say in your safety and pocketbook.
I guess you don’t want to.

Vote No Prop 1
November 6, 2017 4:03 pm

If you are a small businesses owner who likes customers who pay their accounts promptly or a non profit who appreciates tuitions and donations (or a beneficiary of the above) stay strong with your civil servant neighbors and vote NO on proposition 1. This proposition benefits career politicians, is expensive to the tax payers and has slim chance of ever helping the yeshiva population.

Cold winter
November 6, 2017 3:54 pm

I have no intention to go vote as my vote is taken for granted i will stay home tomorrow and vote with my feet.
To the so called leaders of crown heights do you live in a bubble of money that you have ignored the struggling families of crown heights i refuse to play a part of the games and will stay home tomorrow

What for ?
November 6, 2017 3:41 pm

Why should I go vote if the only outcome will be that the Askonim of our community will use any leeway they have to benefit themselves?! To be clear I’m referring to those at the CHJCC.

To #7
November 6, 2017 3:34 pm

Vote for the republican for mayor.
I forgot her name..
Check out the Jewish press for the endorsements.

Vote early, vote often
November 6, 2017 2:45 pm

#3, that’s the tip of the iceberg in voter fraud. One of my kids who has always lived in CH has never managed to get on the electoral roll – on the other hand, his sister who went on Shlichus overseas over 10 years ago, is still registered. As are we, who moved away 4 years ago. Something is very wrong.

Suggestions for those uninformed??
November 6, 2017 2:22 pm

For those of us who are willing to vote – please let us know who would be in our best interest to vote for.

To #3
November 6, 2017 2:18 pm

Why don’t you call voter registration to inquire as to your specific situation?

November 6, 2017 2:18 pm

We should all go vote

Yes! Go vote!
November 6, 2017 2:10 pm

No excuses

Great and informative; a question
November 6, 2017 1:55 pm

How do I get the name removed from the eligible voter rolls, of someone who has passed over? My relative in Israel died two years ago, but when he was in the US his address was at my house. We still of course get voter info. addressed to him, so I know that means he’s still considered “registered to vote”.
I am very concerned that his ongoing registration could be used for fraud.
PS: The only proof of death I have is a death certificate that’s all in Hebrew, from Israel! Will the city accept that?

November 6, 2017 1:51 pm

Let’s take a stand!

November 6, 2017 1:28 pm

BS”D I read that the voting place on the corner of President and Brooklyn closed, so where do we go