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Growing Rather Than Sailing

The bochur behind the op-ed "Sailing Through Yeshiva Life" follows-up with a second article, this time with suggestions. Full Story

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person
April 22, 2012 10:07 pm

same with the girls

#25
April 22, 2012 9:10 pm

I love your comment

Great idea!
April 22, 2012 8:45 pm

Based on all the above comments, I think it would be a great idea to start with teaching SPELLING in yeshivos! Lol.

To #18
April 22, 2012 7:05 pm

Oh, you were the chutzpenyak who sent unsigned emails to random hanhola members saying ‘Read this and do something?’

to #19
April 22, 2012 7:05 pm

success ? your definition of success and my definition of success is completely different! success to me is being a jew who follows halacha and supports his family. to you success seems to be all about making money .

to #21
April 22, 2012 3:35 pm

totally right we should all learn all the sichas non bias instead of being ignorant and we will then all be “bachdus” & you shouldnt criticise him eather “even though that the rebbe wouldnt agree with him still hes trying to help you have to understand that hes confused so we have to show him the right path ”
we should all be talmidim of aharon “ohav shalom vrodef sholom”
moshiach now

to every one
April 22, 2012 2:47 pm

all this starts when we dont have unity in lubavitch we dont have to critisice every thing every body writes he is just a human he could be right just respect the fact that he has his own oppinions even though that the rebbe woudnt agree with him still hes trying to help you have to understand that hes confused so we have to show him the right path whatever yechi hamelech now

To #8
April 22, 2012 1:05 pm

What is the problem ? The writer succeeded in eliciting lots of pro and con comments, That is very important! Sometimes we need to stimulate the energy before we take action. I say it’s a job well done.

are we like satmar?
April 22, 2012 12:50 pm

are we going to stay the same forever…..you have to understand the bigger picture …..judaism has evolved throughout the years ……we adapt to our surroundings and county while not changing the laws of the torah….we have to change or else we will remain a bunch of old time losers from russia who will be uneducated and insecure in this fast doggy dog world…….i know that more then half of lubavitch feel like i do so lets start doing something about it…..new schools with new rebbies …better english ed. more activities for the bocharem….music,art, etc. we dont all have to be… Read more »

Ok I did something
April 22, 2012 10:21 am

I sent emails to some hanholo. anyone else do anything?

To #11-
April 22, 2012 2:22 am

You spelled also wrong, as well as me, as well as people! 🙂

@ # 5
April 22, 2012 1:15 am

The Rebbe also started botei sefarim lamlacha. Te rebbe did not think everyone belonged in yeshiva and therefore prepared school where bachurim can go and learn a trade al taharas hakodesh. Due to the misguided chassidishkeit of todays people, there is a mindset that everyone must go to yeshiva. It is wrong. It is literally a prison sentance for some bachurim. People have to stop looking down at guys who are completely frum yet go and learn a trade. If that would happen more “good” guys would go to frum trade schools rather than sitting through yeshivos and learning nothing… Read more »

to 11
April 22, 2012 12:42 am

u spelled “also” wrong
lol fix your own mistakes before you fix others.and next time use spell check.but i agree in these over too long comments

are going to literally turn over the world
April 22, 2012 12:42 am

why to people write ‘literally’ when they actually mean ‘figuratively’?

to number 11
April 22, 2012 12:38 am

you also spelled ‘also’ wrong

sorry
April 22, 2012 12:18 am

sorry bored to right like that maybe you are referring to yourself because to sit on front of internet instead of learning like a normal bochur of shiur alef zal and not going arond zal and look at who learning and who not because by the end of the day we are all equal legabe learning i my self agree with comment number 10 READ “Point 2. The rebbeim NEVER said/intendid EVERYONE to go to the “traditional” tomchei timimim. in fact tomchei timimim was designed originally for those who wanted to take their education to the next level not to… Read more »

To #10
April 22, 2012 12:12 am

Ur comment is unnessesarily long,mi and I’m sure other pple don’t have the patience to read it
U alco spelled”coffee” wrong

Hello wake up and smell the cofee people he's right
April 21, 2012 11:25 pm

I’ve two main points to make 1.A lot of these comments are upset about “changing” the system. So i ask you is this the same Tomchei timimim Started by the rebeim. In fact there are only a few “tomchei timimim” the rest are just want to be’s but they will ALL tell you THIS is tomchei timimim and the Rebbe Rashab icked each of you to come here. I’m sorry but the Yeshivos today are not what they used to be. Yeridos hadoros, standards have dropped i mean what does it take to get into a tomchei timimim today? basicly… Read more »

happy
April 21, 2012 11:14 pm

your not 2 years old. your hungry feed yourself dont wait to be fed.things will never change

An ordinary (misivta)bochur
April 21, 2012 11:06 pm

You are either a Misivta Bocher or a Bal Tshuve that did not spend more than 6 month in yishvah!! Every thing you write is just so old and is coming out of my ears, You wrote absolutely nothing New, Original or unspoken. At least once a month it is posted on one of the websites written by a different idiot each time (obviously with out a name) who thinks he discovered America .If you want to help go in to chinuch and start working on salving problems. when you get there you will notice it ain’t so simple the… Read more »

not the kavono
April 21, 2012 11:03 pm

for the same reason the rebbe did not want that small children to learn limudei chol,
bochurim must also not.
why is science and “socials studies” differnt than “Fundraising, marketing, budget management,”?

on the other hand...
April 21, 2012 10:35 pm

The most elementary rule in education is that each and every pupil is an individual that must have his/her needs met. I experienced the opposite of what the grievance in the article was. I was in a super strict yeshivah. Though my intelligence was and is probably above average, I had no cheishek (stamina/discipline) to sit and shteig in gemarah, shulchan aruch and samach vov all day. If you were spotted talking about non learning related matters with your friends [during seder], you would have a member of hanholo staring you down. Every time my father would inquire by my… Read more »

have you read achron shel pesach 5736?
April 21, 2012 9:37 pm

if so, do you really think the rebbe will approve of developing shlichus skills in yeshiva?

do you know that the rebbe even forbade developing fundraising skills in KOLLEL! ?

in other words, does the rebbe have an opinion?

should we take example from other yeshivois ?
April 21, 2012 8:41 pm

Should we take example from other Yeshivois on how to excel ?

The answer is a definite “no” ; the ‘others’ dont learn Chasidus the ‘others’ dont listen to our Rebbe the
‘others’ are meakeiv the geulo with their ‘krume’ ways …and >>BICHLAL they teach to learn with gayvo and are not even ‘worth’ thinking about.

Like they used to day in the olden days
April 21, 2012 1:47 pm

“aff tzulochus, s’iz faran a oibeshter oifen velt” if the bochrim would know that then things will be alot diff.! Dont try making new sestyms etc. And its the mashpiems problem %100!!!

an ordinary solution from an ordinary bochur
April 21, 2012 10:20 am

There’s no way you are teaching business skills in a yeshivah, mivtzoim is not a core focus of yeshivah either so spending time teaching those skills is second to useless Bochurim float coz that’s the current yetzer hora… if they would speak to their mashpia more often maybe they would get somewhere- if they dont have a mashpia no curriculum enhancement will help them out… even in a perfect system floaters will be floaters The first paragraph of your call to action embodies the epitome of vague. Perhaps what you were thinking was- that it is the magid shiur/mashpias job… Read more »

optional
April 21, 2012 5:32 am

These course ideas should be optional – since there are always bochurim who can taka set real Torah goals and reach them.
But for a bochur who is not towing the line, he could be told by honhola to attend the courses.
And others could attend if they have an interest in the particular practical area. Otherwise they’d have to be in zal.

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