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I agree and disagree
October 25, 2020 9:56 pm

I agree that the song shouldn’t have been played there.
I disagree with your stance on participating in political events. As a Frum political YouTuber, I constantly get asked how any Jew (especially Orthodox Jews) can vote Democrat when the Left is against a lot of things which we support.
It’s a Chillul Hashem not to openly support Trump.

To author
Reply to  I agree and disagree
October 26, 2020 12:28 am

Not necessarily was it Lubavitchers playing the music. I was at the ohel the other night and a few breslov chassidim came in and started singing “ uman uman Rosh Hashanah “… and one person even took a piece of a ripped up pan out of the rebbes tzion and wrote נ נח נחמ נחמן ״ “ on it and walked out.

It could very well have been a non Lubavitcher who also has no respect for the rebbe and started playing it.

Agreed
Reply to  To author
October 26, 2020 1:19 am

Exactly. Innocent until proven guilty.

Or we could...
Reply to  To author
October 26, 2020 3:51 pm

We could judge a person favorably… maybe the person that chose to play the song wasn’t a lubavicher and didn’t really know the significance of the song and how the rebbe felt about politics, with no malicious intentions . Maybe they saw an opportunity to use a song that they felt was joyful to bring joy to all the yidden that were there. instead of using this as an opportunity to bash people for using the wrong song why don’t we use this as an opportunity to teach them about the Rebbe, and what he stood for though the teachings… Read more »

1000 PERCENT!!
October 25, 2020 9:58 pm

Could not agree more VOTE TRUMP (I think it’s a MUST) but know your limits!!!

Don’t drag the name of Shluchim in to Very dirty politics… We all know how much damage it’ll do to mikorovim

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Excuse me?!
Reply to  1000 PERCENT!!
October 26, 2020 1:58 am

The name of shluchim? The shluchim have no name of themselves, they are the Rebbe’s shluchim!! If you are worried about the shluchims name then you obviously don’t know what shlichus is all about!

100%
October 25, 2020 9:58 pm

Agree completely.
Thank you for speaking up.

Nfc east is a Churban
October 25, 2020 9:59 pm

I can’t believe the Cowboys got blown out by the redskins!

PC Police here badge #770
Reply to  Nfc east is a Churban
October 25, 2020 10:42 pm

It’s a churban to use the name Redskins.

Please refer to them as the Washington football team.

you mean
Reply to  Nfc east is a Churban
October 25, 2020 11:35 pm

you mean football team

Nfc east is a Churban
Reply to  you mean
October 26, 2020 1:12 pm

no, redskins are their real name

not so suprising
Reply to  Nfc east is a Churban
October 26, 2020 11:45 am

cmon its 2020 you shouldve been ready for it but that cardinals game was incredible

Nfc east is a Churban
Reply to  Nfc east is a Churban
October 26, 2020 1:12 pm

such a shanda . only thing i can say to the owners , put me in

agree
Reply to  Nfc east is a Churban
October 26, 2020 5:34 pm

So are the vikings.

For once I agree with an article
October 25, 2020 10:00 pm

But I have a question, did the Rebbe ever vote or Express part of Democrat or republic?
And a follow up to the question, why are chassidim voting ( if the Rebbe didn’t vote, let say…)?
Just out of curiosity, anyone?…

Incorrect
Reply to  For once I agree with an article
October 25, 2020 10:18 pm

The Rebbe encouraged voting

Voter Registration Drive
Reply to  Incorrect
October 25, 2020 11:17 pm

Does anyone know why that has never happened here in CH ?? Many residents are not registered & do not vote. Think of all of the girls and bochurim living or learning out of town who could vote. Numbers = Political power. Nu ??

Voter Registration @18 Years old is a Must;;
Reply to  Voter Registration Drive
October 26, 2020 12:03 pm

Needs to Be Part Of The Yeshivas,Girl school ect Curriculum;

As It Was In The Past CHJCC Should Be at The Forefront NOW

The Rebbe Voted
Reply to  For once I agree with an article
October 26, 2020 12:51 am

I heard from Rabbi Paltiel that the Rebbe voted every election.

Voting
Reply to  For once I agree with an article
October 26, 2020 10:57 am

The Rebbe was a registered Democrat on paper.

Everyone's a critic
October 25, 2020 10:03 pm

No matter what people do, someone has to complain about it. They’re doing a lot more than the people that sit at home and complain how nothing is changing or happening

Well said
Reply to  Everyone's a critic
October 26, 2020 9:53 am

Everybody has an opinion. Mine is – I take It as a compliment and an acknowledgement of Chabad’s appreciation of the Trump administration. I’m sure no disrespect was meant; on the contrary.

There’s so much to be upset about, the election being very high up on the list for Jews in the USA and in Israel. Stop mutchering about this, & get the word out to Vote Trump!

I agree
October 25, 2020 10:04 pm

There is no benefit to publicly endorse a candidate. If Trump wins our local democratic governmental officials and democratic liberal goyish neighbors will have it in for us. If Ch” v Trump loses,we will definitely be on the outs… what benefit is there to bring attention that frum jews are Trump supporters?

Doesn't matter
Reply to  I agree
October 25, 2020 10:22 pm

Progressives already hate Orthodox Jews. You only have to look at all the attacks against us over the last year in New York, BEFORE the community came out in support of Trump.

It is already well known
Reply to  I agree
October 26, 2020 12:24 am

It is well known that the Orthodox Jewish community supports Trump.

Have you noticed something?
Reply to  I agree
October 26, 2020 6:14 pm

They already do have it in for us. Let’s at least be respected by standing for what we believe in.

I'm so sorry someone stubbed your toe...
October 25, 2020 10:07 pm

.. if i knew who you were i’d run over instantly to kiss your booboo

Typical Coward Talk
Reply to  I'm so sorry someone stubbed your toe...
October 26, 2020 6:15 pm

Sitting over your computer safe in your basement while real people stand up for the safety and future of all new Yorkers.

Ad mosai!
October 25, 2020 10:10 pm

Why are people always looking for problems

Well Said!
October 25, 2020 10:12 pm

On point! Is it worth it to push people away from Chabad over this? (Most secular Jews in NYC are liberal.)

Berel
Reply to  Well Said!
October 25, 2020 11:15 pm

Time to get them to vote Trump

Don’t worry, the shluchim are all writing tut tut articles about how both sides…

Lipszyc Family
Reply to  Well Said!
October 26, 2020 7:27 am

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Why are u allowed to go to baseball games
October 25, 2020 10:13 pm

But he cant go to rallies.

Get a life and I highly doubt ur actually voting

CHT
October 25, 2020 10:14 pm

I think you can see on the video that they only started and turned off right away. Someone right away realized it was a mistake and turned it off.

BTW, I remember reading the Rebbe had endorsed **some** of the political events.

AGREE 100%
October 25, 2020 10:18 pm

`We have to hold on to being chassidim of the Rebbe and not give in to a
temptation to enter into ‘worldliness’ – when it comes to maintaining the essential HASHPAAH of a chossid of the Rebbe – the Rebbe is watching if we hold on to
what he taught us – in this case – CHABAD IS NOT POLITICAL. And the Rebbe
has his reasons – our goal has to be – everything for the sake of spreading yiddisheit, And the Rebbe said business is not to be mixed with spreading
Yiddishkeit stuff – it just wont work

U know...
Reply to  AGREE 100%
October 26, 2020 2:14 pm

After reading all such comments, they make me really sad. Everyone who keeps on saying to do what the Rebbe wants etc (which is 100% true), maybe come out and *do something* to help the hundreds of kids in ur community who are failing in yidishkeit and failing to do what the Rebbe says!! Maybe there’s a reason why kids arare going out and getting so into politics and other things. What do u want from them? Especially after being home for so long with basically no education!

In my opinion
October 25, 2020 10:21 pm

The Rebbe was strongly for voting. This election is very important the most in the 40 years I have been voting. I think the parade/demonstration was wonderful. Now if you are objecting to the music you are certainly entitled to your opinion on that. but to go out and encourage people to vote like that I say col hakovod.

You sign your name but not really
October 25, 2020 10:23 pm

Chaim what?

Be a men put your name!!!!

like you did?
Reply to  You sign your name but not really
October 25, 2020 10:55 pm

You can’t demand a name without a signature. (also, should spell man)

😎.
Reply to  You sign your name but not really
October 25, 2020 11:08 pm

Tell me yours and I’ll tell you mine

...
Reply to  You sign your name but not really
October 26, 2020 2:16 pm

Seriously what do u care lol

Bringing light unto the nations
October 25, 2020 10:24 pm

Trump openly acknowledges Hashem. We openly acknowledge Hashem. Standing with other god fearing individuals and spreading light is exactly what we should be doing. Let’s criticize less and stand together more. The Rebbe definitely wants that

Trump Acknowledges Hashem
Reply to  Bringing light unto the nations
October 26, 2020 1:33 pm

G0d fearing??? Are you kidding??? You can be very grateful and appreciative of things he’s done….but an example of G0d fearing?? A moral person?? From his menuval behaviour with women throughout his life, to his screwing his workers out of their pay, to his ‘charitable’ donations that tax dollars paid – he is worse than morally corrupt. Yes, thank you for what you did, Mr. President….but please don’t think we’re all so stupid to think that when you point to the skies,, or hold up a bible for the press, that you’re actually thinking anything but ME ME ME ME… Read more »

The real issue is
Reply to  Trump Acknowledges Hashem
October 26, 2020 9:34 pm

If cv the left gets power, they will stop at nothing, to force our schools to teach young children that alternative lifestyle is a good and normal marriage. This is already happening to yeshivas in Great Britain.

Nope
Reply to  Bringing light unto the nations
October 26, 2020 5:41 pm

Trump does not believe in God. It’s a show he puts on for his Evangelical supporters. When they ask him questions about religion and scripture he has no clue.

Voting
October 25, 2020 10:25 pm

I heard from R. Leibel Groner. It was a voting day in Crown Heights and the Rebbe asked Rabbi Groner, how come I do not hear the car with the loudspeaker going around urging people to vote. The Rebbe wanted everyone to vote. However,t he Rebbe never endorsed any candidate with the exception of the election in Israel in 1988. By voting, you are doing several mitvos. One you are showing Hashem you are on his team. Two ,if our people voted like in Williamsburg we would have more political clout.

Wow!
Reply to  Voting
October 26, 2020 2:17 pm

Was this ever recorded? Is there a way we can see thus?

Much bigger then politics
October 25, 2020 10:31 pm

This election is not a political choice. It’s the final showdown between Kedusha Vs. Klippa.
Will we have a world world that G-d is welcome or not?
Will we put back millions of Jews under the threat of an Iranian nuclear attack?
Will we allow them to split Yerushalaim where we get west Jerusalem and they get Har Habais and the Makom Hamikdash thereby preventing the Geulah?
Lets not forget the Alter Rebbe literally gave his life to fight Napoleon because he represented atheism!
This is not about Hakoras Hatov its Dirah Betachtonim wich is all of Chassidus!

Kedusha vs kelipah?
Reply to  Much bigger then politics
October 25, 2020 11:17 pm

This is utter insanity!! Trump is the side of kedushah???? Have we completely lost our senses? He is a goy, a mushchas, who represents the lowest of the low, the basest, most crass president we have ever had in our lifetime. Maybe he was a tool in Hashem’s hands to achieve certain things for shleimus ha’aretz (although if we’re being completely honest Israel is now in a weaker position vis a vis shtachim etc than we have ever been) but that makes him kadosh? Do people even understand the meaning of these terms? Have we become so blind? Samim or… Read more »

Hes not worse then the Czar
Reply to  Kedusha vs kelipah?
October 25, 2020 11:57 pm

Look at the Mitteler Rebbes (in the Igros of the Mitteler Rebbe) letter where he talks about the Alter Rebbes support for the czar and his utter hatred for Napoleon. I don’t think the czar was in anyway more refined then Trump yet the Alter Rebbe says that the Eibishter is with him because he attributes his success to him. Unlike the letter I just mentioned I’m not sure of the validity of the following story but its brought in many Chassidisher seforim (see Maase Ho’achron) That a certain Tzadik who disagreed with the Alter Rebbe on Napoleon asked him… Read more »

Kedusha vs kelipah?
Reply to  Hes not worse then the Czar
October 26, 2020 12:06 am

You do not know who the Rebbe would support in this situation so don’t put words into the Rebbe’s mouth. In fact the Rebbe said in a sichah of 24 Teves, 5752, that the birur of France has been completed. https://www.sie.org/templates/sie/article_cdo/aid/2309038/jewish/The-Spiritual-French-Revolution.htm

To Clarify
Reply to  Kedusha vs kelipah?
October 26, 2020 1:34 pm

Where in the above comment is there one word that says who the Rebbe said we should vote for? All that was said is that we can deduce from the Alter Rebbe’s support for the czar that when there’s a choice between a coarse person who believes in G-d or a heretic we should support the believer. In this case Biden is not necessary a non-believer but the movement he represents are not only heretics they are bent on driving the world away from anything holy and G-dly. Your Idea that the Rebbe said that the Birur of France has… Read more »

eigel hazahav
Reply to  To Clarify
October 26, 2020 2:44 pm

There’s room for differences of opinion as to which candidate will be a better leader for the US or the world at large. Someone who comes to a different conclusion than you isn’t necessarily on the side of kelipah and you on the side of kedusha. The inability to acknowledge that other people can have valid viewpoints, even if you disagree, is the essence of sinas chinam (which is the source of all kelipah and galus). We are dealing with two non-Jews after all. This is exactly the point–Some people conflate support for a political candidate with support for Torah… Read more »

Ch resident
Reply to  Kedusha vs kelipah?
October 26, 2020 7:47 am

It’s obvious your a self hating jew this is exactly why we made such a parade so ppl like you wake up and realize the democratic party doesn’t like you even if you vote for them

eigel hazahav
Reply to  Ch resident
October 26, 2020 9:45 am

Wow. I”m a self-hating Jew for telling you to stop worshipping Trump like an eigel hazahav. I guess the Jew-loving Jews are pro-avodah zarah?

To clarify...
Reply to  Kedusha vs kelipah?
October 26, 2020 10:42 am

I don’t think “much bigger than politics” meant that trump is kedusha. On the contrary, this has nothing to do with trump/politics at all. I think he is saying that now in these highly tense times, we are seeing the fight *in the world* between the forces of klipah and kedusha. We should vote for the one who will be “a tool in the hand of Hashem” who will be instrumental in moving the world towards a more Geulahdike world. That’s all. Thats called choosing kedusha. It doesn’t mean the tool themselves is the best/most refined person out there. I… Read more »

eigel hazahav
Reply to  To clarify...
October 26, 2020 10:59 am

I think there’s some room for disagreement whether Trumpism indeed represents the side of kedushah. For example the Rebbe mentioned quite a number of times that America is a medinah shel chesed and Trumpism is unleashing forces that are the opposite of chesed (increased restrictions on immigration, cruelty towards migrants, decreased funding for social programs). Not to mention his intemperate language and peritzas gevul with the way he speaks about his adversaries with lack of respect and sechel. You can argue pro or against this policy or the other, but you should at least be able to see room for… Read more »

Whoa!!
Reply to  eigel hazahav
October 26, 2020 2:25 pm

Whoa!! Speaking abt gvura vs. Chesed. How about locking us all up till we all die vs. Letting us live??
And plenty of what he does for the Jews is on the CHESED side vs. Gvura… would u reather be treated with gvurah?

Whoa!!
Reply to  eigel hazahav
October 26, 2020 2:29 pm

Chesed vs. Gvura. How abt locking us all up till we die vs. letting us live?
And forget about all the things u mentioned, what about the things Trump does for the Jews? I would say they’re on the chesed side, and I doubt u want them on the gvura side 😉 …(as the other side tends to want).

eigel hazahav
Reply to  Whoa!!
October 26, 2020 3:21 pm

We could go back and forth forever but that’s not the point. Vote Trump all you want. The only objection I have is when you claim that your support for Trump is based on kedushah and anyone who thinks otherwise is on the side of kelipah. That’s when it goes off the rails. Trump is a goy, Biden is a goy. You can agree or support one position over the other but bottom line they BOTH represent kelipah. Neither is kedushah. And the fact that the AR supported the Czar over Napoleon is no proof for who he would support… Read more »

Agree
October 25, 2020 10:34 pm

We will DEFINITELY VOTE FOR TRUMP but refrain from getting to involved in politics
This is very important election just look in the news how animals are and have been behaving…. do u really want them in power?
Please vote! Please vote 4 TRUMP

Trump supports religion.
October 25, 2020 10:35 pm

Look at all the a Democrat controlled cities and states. They consider religious gatherings to be non essential (but Home Depot is, or hobby lobby, or the local bike shop). Trump pushed for churches synagogues and mosques to reopen. He actively supports religion where the Democrats don’t. He wants a less centralized government so he gave the states the power, and yet somehow they blame him when they failed. For once, we need to be honest and vote a straight Republican ticket. If you want the Democrats to respect us, show them they need us. They have been taking us… Read more »

A socialist threat to jews
October 25, 2020 10:37 pm

Why does someone always have to find fault with everything.ur not a big chossid by complaining . Can we just once and for all have a little achdus when a major threat to Jewish life and yea it will also be a threat to the shluchim look what happened in Portland to the Chabad house if the socialists win .

Finally someone says the truth
October 25, 2020 10:38 pm

The chilul Hashem is astounding. We’ve replaced the Rebbe with l’havdil Trump and Chassidishkeit with l’havdil Trumpism. What’s happening is a disgrace to the Rebbe MHM.

Need help
Reply to  Finally someone says the truth
October 25, 2020 10:57 pm

U need a real doctor

THANK YOU!!!
Reply to  Finally someone says the truth
October 25, 2020 11:10 pm

This is absolutely insane! I’ve never seen anything like this in my life. The same people who mock yechi, mock Moshiach flags, are out there openly putting Trump on their yarmulkes and dancing and singing Yechi to him!!!! The Egel Hazahav of our generation. HASHEM YISHMOR!!

Bentzion
October 25, 2020 10:46 pm

The Rebbe was againt chasidim in politics in Israel too. But he requested to vote for the party which was the best for Jews. Once he especially called to vote for Agudas Isroel. All chasidim were OPENLY campaigning for them. Never before did I vote here. But this time is different. It is between faith in G-d and atheism, between freedom and communist oppression, between “malchus shel chesed” for Jews too and “malchus horisho” in particular for Jews everywhere. Whoever OPENLY shows which side he/she takes is “mkadesh shem shomaim” or…

Thank u!
Reply to  Bentzion
October 26, 2020 2:32 pm

Said very clearly. Summing up all these comments into one. Kuddos

Not entirely wrong
October 25, 2020 10:48 pm

It is important to support those who are friendly to the community, and I think that the parade today was ultimately a good thing, but it is important to make sure that nothing at all bears the official name of Chabad on it.

No I don’t agree.
October 25, 2020 10:49 pm

And why didn’t you sign your last name?
There’s nothing wrong with playing a Chabad song in a support parade for Trump. Trump is part of the final Redemption. His policies restore values and restore the Jewish people to their homeland. Your problem is you don’t see the bigger picture. It’s funny because you talk like such a big a chossid but you’re missing the forest for the trees.

Bochurim in Lubavitch
October 25, 2020 10:54 pm

Unfortunately your average Bochur hates Joe Biden!

As Dovid Hamelech writes in Tehillim: The Sheep were returned, the Sheep’s pen (where they live) was remembered as well, but the Shepard is not even mentioned!

We have to stop following Shtusim, 100% we must vote for Trump, but why get involved and all worked up about it, as if the Rebbe’s Inyonim are C”V from the past…

Pls read that comment
Reply to  Bochurim in Lubavitch
October 26, 2020 2:35 pm

There was an amazing comments answering u. Please scroll up and read.
In short, stop telling everyone this unless u want to help them. Stop telling the bachurim/youth. They have nothing else unfortunately

Bochurim in Lubavitch
October 25, 2020 10:55 pm

Unfortunately your average Bochur hates Joe Biden!

As Dovid Hamelech writes in Tehillim: The Sheep were returned, the Sheep’s pen (where they live) was remembered as well, but the Shepard is not even mentioned!

We have to stop following Shtusim, 100% we must vote for Trump, but why get involved and all worked up about it, as if the Rebbe’s Inyonim are C”V from the past…

New pseudo religion
October 25, 2020 11:03 pm

Unfortunately, Trumpism/Conservatism has become a new psuedo religion for many in the Frum community. It’s as if these people can’t find real meaning in Yiddishkeit, and so have turned to a false idolatry that substitutes as a passion outlet for their real religion.

When Melech Trump is defeated in a landslide in 10 days from now, some soul searching may be in order.

We have a Rebbe. Stop celebrating and elevating Golden Calves.

we have a rebbe!
Reply to  New pseudo religion
October 26, 2020 6:42 am

THANK YOU! seems like EVERYONE needs this reminder here!!

Sad
Reply to  New pseudo religion
October 26, 2020 8:42 am

It’s sad that because you have no accomplishments to tout for Biden after 40 years in government, you have to attack the character of Trump supporters in trying to win.

If Trump is a melech, just remember what they say about praying for a ruler’s health. The person who replaces him may not be better.

If Biden wins we will have a Harris presidency in less than three months. Just know who you are really voting for. Check her prosecution record when in California. If Republicans were truly racist they would be voting for Harris in droves.

You're missing the point
Reply to  Sad
October 26, 2020 5:56 pm

He’s not talking about replacing egel trump with another egel of biden and democrats. It’s about forgetting about all of these politicians and focusing on chassidishkeit and what the Rebbe says

Uh huh
Reply to  New pseudo religion
October 26, 2020 2:38 pm

Its not as if. Maybe ppl cant find meaning in yidishkeit (unfortunately!) so they turn to this for excitement?

Biden supporters
October 25, 2020 11:04 pm

As much as all the good he is done he has also created such chaos in peaceful country of america, looking forward to 4 years of biden a quiet peaceful america once again!!!!

What are u saying
Reply to  Biden supporters
October 25, 2020 11:46 pm

I’m not American but how can u vote for someone who is against u if u r really Jewish. Biden seems mentally challenged or very senior. judging from the debate plus he’s with Iran,Palestenians and diesnt believe in Hashem. Seems catastrophic for idden and democracy should he win. Chv

Seniors
Reply to  What are u saying
October 26, 2020 1:53 am

Another example of trumpisim finding its way into our circles. In Yidishkeit we celebrate our elders when someone gets older he is looked upon more not less… Young Chasidim and bochurim haben gevlgert tsivishen di eltere Chasidim. In general the way we to talk about a senior which may or is not at their full strength as if it’s some curse the way we degrade him because he is not as sharp as trump, think how our parents and grandparents feel when they hear this talk. (I’m not saying that mental acuity is not a concern) but the viciousness in… Read more »

Lol!!!
Reply to  Seniors
October 26, 2020 2:40 pm

Biggest joke. Do u see how much Trump took care of the seniors during Covid? (Vs our looooovely governer here in NY)

Huh?
Reply to  Biden supporters
October 26, 2020 1:10 am

What chaos did he create?

???
Reply to  Biden supporters
October 26, 2020 2:06 am

What quiet and peaceful??
If Biden wins u ain’t getting any peace at all, it’ll be the riots again just worse

Another Person that Doesn't Understand Chabad
October 25, 2020 11:07 pm

Another article that misunderstands what Chabad is really about. Who said this is an endorsement, are we not allowed to attend the trump parade? Are we not allowed to enjoy ourselves. It says bchol derachecha de’ehu, know him in all your ways. This is what that person was doing. They were actually doing a mitzvah, and small-minded “Chasidim” see this as the opposite.

What has Lubavtich come to.

THANK YOU!!!
October 25, 2020 11:14 pm

I remember when people were so worried about talking about Moshiach and spreading the Rebbe’s message about Moshiach openly. Is it going to turn people off? Is it b’ofen hamiskabel? When chassidim would express their deepest faith in the Rebbe, in geulah, in techias hameisim, they were mocked, told to be quiet, hounded out of shul. Now all of a sudden everyone is running to embrace Trump, to loudly express their devotion to him. No fears of chilul Hashem, no fears of turning people off or b’ofen hamiskabel. No shame, no embarrassment. Halevai we’d be out there teaching the Rebbe’s… Read more »

Personal preference vs official opinion
October 25, 2020 11:19 pm

It’s seems simple yet often misunderstood,

Every person (Lubavitchers included) is entitled to to have a ln opinion on politics and support whomever they’d like.

As a voting block frum jews don’t benefit from being known to support a specific party.

Chabad as a movement and organization always was, and must remain non political.

Ch resident
Reply to  Personal preference vs official opinion
October 26, 2020 8:09 am

This was not a chabad organized parade Jews from all over NYC helped and they invited pplmfrom CH

mr f
October 25, 2020 11:41 pm

a freak would say I’m voting Biden
when was the last time u herd ISIS beheading someone
Iran is not able to commit big terrorist attacks because under trump America doesn’t fund terrorism anymore grow up and get informed

Nobody cares
Reply to  mr f
October 26, 2020 12:13 am

Vote for whoever you want.

Just stop jumping up and down with your slavish devotion to Trump.

It’s embarrassing already.

Hashem is G-d, not him.

Surprised
October 25, 2020 11:49 pm

Your reasoning for voting for Trump is shallow, we’re voting for trump because it’s the best option on the table..

Chilul Hashem, Keneged Chassidus b'ikor
October 26, 2020 12:38 am

There is no question. It was a Chilul Hashem. You see that in the reaction it provoked. And you see it in the story now spreading across national and international news. Shame on you, each of you, every person who participated. And, it was pointless. You did not change one vote, and you are not going to change any vote, and it is not your business to change any vote. Your only accomplishment was confrontation, and getting egged on camera while pretending to be a chassid. In doing that you undermine everything the Rebbe worked for, and the very core… Read more »

Ch resident
Reply to  Chilul Hashem, Keneged Chassidus b'ikor
October 26, 2020 8:07 am

Regardless if we changed ppl mind of who to vote for we showed NYC that JEWs are for trump and that the leaders of this state cant do anything to stop us bc they played their hand now we’re playing outs and that’s by showing our support for President Trump

????
Reply to  Ch resident
October 26, 2020 10:19 am

We Jews?!?! I am Jewish and I am not voting for Trump and for your information most Jews are NOT voting for Trump

Haha
Reply to  ????
October 26, 2020 2:43 pm

Fyi I think most Jews ARE voting for Trump

Actually
Reply to  Chilul Hashem, Keneged Chassidus b'ikor
October 26, 2020 8:34 am

It wasn’t a Chillul Hashem. I live and work in a non-Jewish dominated community and city. We get a minyan together maybe once or twice a month, not for lack of trying. When I speak to people out here they can’t understand why Jews would not vote for Trump because of what he has done for Israel. I keep having to be ashamed to admit they vote D because of government handouts, since I don’t see any other reason to vote for a group that doesn’t believe in religion, wants to force religious people to live their lives according to… Read more »

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I think the Rebbe wanted us to vote.
October 26, 2020 12:42 am

Go out and vote for a Ohev Yisroel
Donald J. Trump.
No bickering about what when and where just vote

A voice of reason!
October 26, 2020 1:32 am

A voice of reason…. We are not and we will never be a political party catering to only one part of the Jewish community and the Jewish world and the world

La dogers
October 26, 2020 1:54 am

I can’t bolive that the la dodgers won the game tonight

Time for everyone to stop this bickering
October 26, 2020 4:53 am

We are in desperate need of ahavas chinom, not the opposite c”v

People will always see things differently

In a polarized environment we should strive to find common ground with each other

Let’s focus on brining Moshiach closer

Let’s each improve first and foremost in our ahavas Yisroel and personal avoda in Torah, Davening and doing acts of kindness

As mosai it’s ENOUGH we need to cry out for the Geulah!!!

The world has known too much pain. It’s time that we change our attitude and start truly loving our fellow

ואהבת לרעך כמוך

The rest is commentary

עד מתי!!!!!

Politics
October 26, 2020 5:06 am

A great part of Chsbad’s huge success is that it is apolitical…i.e. makes no public statements.
Thus after the fact…they aren’t judged or seen as adversaries …that would hinder their work chasvshalom
The Rebbe to made that clear.

I was there
Reply to  Politics
October 26, 2020 10:26 am

Besides the song being played and the turned off after realizing it wasn’t appropriate where exactly is there a sign that said chabad for trump it said Jews for trump ppl got to stop blaming Chabad this was the biggest and greatest ahava yisroel ever chabad Shatner sfarardim any type of jew was there and all with the same agenda yes it would be nice for them to come together on other things regarding Judaism but this is definitely a start

Hard to believe!
October 26, 2020 5:35 am

To the Biden supporters out there, So far we live in a democracy and you have the right to choose whichever candidate you want. As Biden is only a puppet (he’s being used by the extreme Left, just see who is ‘running mate’ is), it looks like we won’t be living in a democracy much longer, if he wins. He being used is really a case of elder-abuse. He doesn’t know if he’s coming or going. And why would someone run, who has been in Washington for 47 years, and has accomplished nothing during that entire time??? To not vote… Read more »

"Im sorry if it sounds harsh"
October 26, 2020 6:12 am

No it does not, it sounds ignorant and stupid. First, someone playing a song and your taking issue, what if he played the napoleons march, you would also yell disgrace? Not tmention how you started this, im voting for Trump, who cares, grow up. The Alter Revbe went all out for the Czar and the Rebbe did get involved in politics, he spoke about Russian politics and the regime should fall and he spoke about voting Gimmle when Chassidus was on the line. This election is a choice between anti jewish and anti yeshivas and Trump and the Rebbe would… Read more »

Ohhhh
October 26, 2020 7:11 am

Now I get where a lot of the opposition is coming from…
Shluchim who are scared to ruin their name…
Got it.

Trump2020

eigel hazahav
Reply to  Ohhhh
October 26, 2020 9:47 am

It’s one thing for a shliach to “ruin his name” for his shlichus, for shleimus ha’aretz, for Moshiach, for the Rebbe’s inyanim. To ruin his name for Trump???

Soccer scores
October 26, 2020 7:31 am

Anyone know the lafc soccer score?

Trump parade?
October 26, 2020 7:40 am

Which moron put this together????
Yea vote trump. But how effective do you think a “jews for trump” parade in NY, a blue state. Just more reason to create anti semitsm as has clearly been shown at the parade.
Very sad.

I was there
Reply to  Trump parade?
October 26, 2020 10:19 am

Believe it or not there were a lot of trump supporters and were shocked that ppl in the greater New York area would publicly support President trump so dot be surprised if NY turns red by it’s not only Jews who dont like Biden it’s non Jews also

No surprise
October 26, 2020 7:43 am

Of course you wrote this article…..you’re a registered Democrat

RABBI MEIR KAHANE
October 26, 2020 8:02 am

#CHAIM
WHAT KIND OF NUMBSKULL ARE YOU AND SHAME ON COL FOR PUBLISHING SUCH TRIPE!

IS THAT ALL YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHEN WE HAVE A MATZAV THAT WILL AFFECT EVERY JEW WORLDWIDE AND WE HAVE A POLITICAL AS WELL AS A MORAL AND TORAH DUTY TO SUPPORT THE MOST JEWISH & PRO ISRAEL PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY. HE HAS STOOD FOR EVERY SHLAIMAS HAORETZ POLICY OF THE REBBE AND WE SHOULD SING HIS PRAISES WITH NIGUNIM AND ALL

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Kindness
Reply to  RABBI MEIR KAHANE
October 26, 2020 12:15 pm

You start off by calling someone a name. I think you’ve lost your kindness and that is the real sadness in this picture

To the person who wrote this letter
October 26, 2020 8:02 am

Obviously you weren’t there or you’d relize this parade was not a lubavitch for trump it was JEWS for trump regardless which sect of Judaism. There were ppl from all over nyc Jews non Jews and what was it for it was so NYC and the ppl running it know that NYC support president trump. So chaim go take you complaint to ppl who care bc we don’t bc we know very well what will happen if biden win we will be living like ppl who were in comunist russian again and I’m pretty sure Jews were targeted then too… Read more »

Sorry, this article is really tone deaf
October 26, 2020 9:57 am

There was a ton of violence directed at the parade of people expressing their 1st amendment right, and THIS is all you have to talk about? How about discusiing the violence and solutions to THAT problem?

you cannot bring Halacha into this
October 26, 2020 10:07 am

I really dont think it is appropriate to make statements like…”it is a chillul Hashem not to vote XYZ…or that it is against the religion to vote XYZ…” All these positions are borne from emotions, and not rooted in reality. There is a clear break down here of strong arming people if they have rational reasoning behind voting one way or another. It is a vote, freedom of choice who to vote for…it is a freedom of America who a person votes for…

Agree
Reply to  you cannot bring Halacha into this
October 26, 2020 2:51 pm

Im voting for Trump. And I HATE Biden. But there’s no right to say that someone who votes Biden isn’t Jewish

THANK YOU
Reply to  Agree
October 28, 2020 5:30 pm

Lol I’m voting for Biden and I hate Trump and I don’t hate Republicans!

MTL
October 26, 2020 10:07 am

First of all, it should be an obligation to vote. So many people like to complain about how things are, but turns out a lot of them never voted to begin with. If they had, it might have made a difference.

In this case, it’s no longer a political issue. We are actually talking about the future face of the nation and, by extension, the world. If the most powerful nation in the world becomes a weak, left-wing, anti-moral (forget religious) country, we will no longer be safe.

Time for Moshiach. Maybe we should put him on the ballot!

Good & bad
October 26, 2020 10:18 am

Yes I agree wrong to play the Niggun. However Participation in the parade was a good idea but not done totally correct. The participants should have done so for the sake of Mivtzoyim. They missed a golden opportunity to spread The Rebbe’s message of Geulah now. In this case this year it is important to show Hakoras Hatov to A President who has done so much on behalf of Klal Yisroel & has tried to make this country better. An enormous amount is at stake in this election. The opposition is Anti American anti Semitic Anti Freedom & in truth… Read more »

Igros on voting
October 26, 2020 10:18 am

Igros Kodesh, Vol. 20, p. 243 Based on this letter, it would seem that prior to the vote acting as brashly as people have been is not the “right” method…CH is in NYC which is a democrat city, which means it ought to be incumbent on the locals to appease the local government who can in the long run (and who have in the long run) benefitted them. Therefore acting brashly, and possibly making a chillul Hashem in the process, and then blaming the non Jewish locals for judging you is childish, and not well thought out…No one will disagree… Read more »

Pride
Reply to  Igros on voting
October 26, 2020 2:53 pm

U sound really ashamed of who u are and what u stabd for

Sadly
October 26, 2020 10:26 am

Crown heights is now:
Conservative first, chassidim second.

We should follow the rulings of Rabbi Osdoba, Rabbi Braun, et al, and not Rush, Mark, Ben, and Sean.

Yes!!
Reply to  Sadly
October 26, 2020 12:17 pm

We have lost our focus as a community. We don’t turn to our rabbonim but we turn to conservative right wing talk show hosts and this affects our way of thinking. We no longer have the sensitivity of what Torah wants from us and think that torah is in line with Christian thinking. But it’s not! We need to refocus on what does torah want and how will this affect Torah yidden.

Modern Day Buckies
Reply to  Sadly
October 26, 2020 4:08 pm

I would hardly call Crown Heights “Conservative”. There are few places in the United States with higher concentrations of welfare recipients — and I’m not just referring to the Afro-Caribbean folks. There are however no shortage of people who play Conservatives while accepting Medicaid (socialized single payer healthcare), food stamps, Earned Income Tax credits, and Section 8 (redistributions of wealth, aka “Socialism”). In fact, I would hardly call Donald Trump and the current crop of obsequious Republicans “Conservatives” at all. In 4 short years, they have more than doubled the deficit, added over seven trillion dollars to the national debt,… Read more »

Stop judging
October 26, 2020 12:04 pm

Well what if I told you that the reason the song was being played was to get peoples attention for mivtzahim.
And what if I told you that someone got 5 people to put on tiffillin at the prade is it still wrong to go to the prade, or is it more wrong to write a whole article against it?

I know the DJ
October 26, 2020 12:26 pm

I know the DJ who was hired to play at this parade and he honestly doesn’t know any better (non-chabad) if he knew the implications of playing this song he wouldn’t have done so.

help!!
October 26, 2020 1:36 pm

for anyone that has r”l a friend or knows someone that will vote for biden, its extremely important to prepare them and let them know our great President Trump wins again. there will be mass suicides,. snowflake liberals need mental help, that are very sick creatures

eigel hazahav
Reply to  help!!
October 26, 2020 2:48 pm

Hi, I’m voting for Biden and B”H my mental health is good. If Trump wins I won’t be happy but I accept it as Hashem’s will. I’m still your fellow Jew and fellow chassid. (Yes, I know you don’t acknowledge anyone who doesn’t support Trump as a fellow Jew but that’s your problem, not mine.)

Spiritual health
Reply to  eigel hazahav
October 26, 2020 6:03 pm

I’m a bit concerned for your spiritual health if you support someone who is for abortion and against Israel…

Eiigel hazahav
Reply to  Spiritual health
October 26, 2020 7:47 pm

I worry about the spiritual health of anyone who worships the eigel hazahav of Trump. Baruch HaShem I believe in one G-d, one Torah and one Rebbe. I do not serve Trump.

Sheva mitzvos
October 26, 2020 4:16 pm

Read the democratic party platform- it’s online. Their ideals are goals go against the sheva mitzvos. That is not good for the U.S.
Then read the republican platform. We should be backing them because of their support for the sheva mitzvos.
The parade was right after parshas Noach. It could have been an opportunity to promote the sheva mitzvos. The song that should have played is one about the sheva mitzvos. Maybe make another parade for the sheva mitzvos.

Raboisi this is hurting the Shluchim
October 26, 2020 5:08 pm

I remember when I was a bocher I got into a conversation about politics with someone in the Chabad house I was working for and I realized that he was more to the left on certain issues and those issues were important to him. (I’m not talking about eretz Yisroel) anyway having grown up going to many Chabad houses in California a liberal state I can tell you that shluchim keep their politics to themselves because to do otherwise would turn people of of yiddishkiet! According to pew research 64% of yidden lean left and 9% are Independent. Think about… Read more »

eigel hazahav
Reply to  Raboisi this is hurting the Shluchim
October 26, 2020 11:18 pm

When you are on shlichus or interact with non-religious Jews on a regular basis you learn that there is more than one way to look at things and we should always be trying to find common ground, especially in matters that are not black and white halachah. When it comes to politics there are good and bad ideas on the left and right, as well as good and bad politicians on the left and right.Don’t insist that everything RW is kadosh v’tahor and everything LW is kelipah and traif. There’s plenty of shmutz in RW politics and plenty of good… Read more »

YAKNAHAZ
October 26, 2020 8:47 pm

KERT DER VELT!!
KERT DER VELT HEINT!!
VOTE FOR TRUMP 2020

I voted biden
October 26, 2020 10:32 pm

I’m a Frumme lubavitcher, Go to mikvah every day learn Chitas Rambam, join a farbrengen every Yoma Dipagra, go to the ohel once a month.
And I daven in 770 frequently.
My kids all go to lubavitch cheder I only eat lubavitch shchita at home.
And yes I voted for biden. Does that make me less Jewish, or maybe less of a chasid..
I’m not sure. But the only area ppl around find me lacking in is support for Donald trump.

eigel hazahav
Reply to  I voted biden
October 26, 2020 11:16 pm

Anyone who questions your Yiddishkeit or chassidishkeit based on who you voted for is proof that they’re mixing up Yiddishkeit with Trumpism. They think supporting Trump is one of the ikrei emunah r”l. Sad to see so many Lubavitchers lose their way. Thank you for being a voice of reason.

Sheva mitzvos
October 27, 2020 12:01 am

How can someone support a party that supports gender change operations and abortions? The Republican party is in favor of letting students pray at school events and is in favor of traditional families.

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