A jury found former Minneapolis officer Derek Chauvin guilty of second-degree murder and two other charges in the death of George Floyd after holding a knee down on his neck for 9 minutes; rally planned at Grand Army Plaza. Video
A jury found former Minneapolis officer Derek Chauvin guilty of second-degree murder and two other charges in the death of George Floyd after holding a knee down on his neck for 9 minutes; rally planned at Grand Army Plaza. Video
Former Minneapolis officer Derek Chauvin, who last May held a knee down on George Floyd’s neck for more than 9 minutes, has been found guilty of second-degree murder and two other charges in Floyd’s death.
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A rally titled “Hit the Streets for George Floyd” is planned on Tuesday 7:00 PM at Grand Army Plaza, organized by Riders for Black Lives.
This is an incredibly encouraging first step, but we have so much more work to do. BLM.
This is complete stupidity and look how much BLM has ruined this country.
“All lives matter” people are so embarrassing, it’s shameful.
It’s gross to suggest that some lives “don’t matter”.
That is what’s shameful.
Saying black lives matter doesn’t mean that other lives don’t matter. It means that right now, at this time in history, we are focusing on black lives because black people are being murdered.
Other lives matter too, of course, but it’s not always about you.
I’m so tired of explaining this to ignorant people.
The people being killed are criminals, that’s all that unites them. There are MORE unarmed white men killed by police than black men.
Also, unless you’ve been under a rock you would know that Asians are being attacked too, as are Jews, for not being black. This is why it’s why saying black lives matter is so offensive. It ignore the experiences of so many victims.
Asians are not being attacked because they are not black. That makes absolutely no sense. They are being attacked because Trump and his racist followers spread the lie that Asians are responsible for spreading Covid. Trump is the reason Asia people are being attacked.
The people being killed are not criminals, you racist. The people being killed are black people.
You are lying about Trump, because you are the racist, not him or most of his supporters.
Yes most Blacks killed by police are criminals, whether you like it or not, that is the fact.
Let’s see you list 10 Blacks killed by police, who have no history of committing any crimes, you can’t.
You must think the Crips and Bloods, are charitable organizations, right?
Looks who’s doing the attacking, they’re not Trump’s fans, exactly the opposite.
A video was shown at the trial that (a) Chauvin wasn’t on Floyd’s neck, but on his back, and (b) that Floyd was saying “I can’t breathe” long before that. But who needs evidence when mob justice is so much more satisfying? A hundred years ago racist mobs threatened riots and lynchings if the black man wasn’t convicted, evidence be darned, and today’s racist congresspeople threaten the same thing if the white man isn’t convicted, again evidence be darned.
Totally crazy for any Jewish person in NYC to say BLM, when the only racism happening in NYC is by blacks against Jews and Asians.
We need to keep this momentum going. Defund the police!!
You must like pogroms because that’s what happened the last time the police were held back, and everyone with any brains knows that would happen the moment the police stopped protecting us.
Pogroms were initiated and encouraged by the police and law enforcement.
Those same terrorists who attacked democracy on Jan. 6th are the ones who are coming for the Jews next if the world does nothing.
You mean like Dinkins and the black leader of the NYPD during the 1991 pogram?
Oh and BLM vandalized many many shuls, targeted and destroyed Jewish businesses, and attacked many Jews and chanted “kill the Jews”. There’s even video of them attacking frum Jews. They act exactly like the Nazis did.
There have been hundreds of attacks on Jews in NYC over the last few years and do you know how many of them were carried out by the far right? NONE. Let me repeat that, there were 0 attacks against Jews in NYC by white supremacists in the last few years. This was documented by the NY Times.
The only ones attacking Jews in NYC are progressives, blacks and Muslims. The data is very clear about that.
If the white supremacist nazis aren’t attacking Jews today, then that means they must be on our side! It’s weird, I’ve always had this bias against nazis, but you’ve convinced me that they might have some amazing redeeming qualities. I should mention your point to my grandfather, a Holocaust survivor.
Just because they aren’t “whites”.
Tell that to the family of Yankel rosenbaum, and those that have been sucker punched by Black antisemites shouting “Heil Hitler”.
and also to the families of Avi Goldman, R. Dovid Okunov, Mrs Lapine HY”D and all the Hundred’s in the neighborhood that were B”H “only” hurt and robbed and not killed
Honest person: “The facts contradict my ideology, so I’ll drop my ideology and accept the facts”.
Cult member: “The facts contradict my ideology, so I’ll mock the facts and stick with my ideology”.
Progressivism is a just an antisemitic cult. No more and no less.
Please Gd let this country get it together and stop murdering black people. The Crown Heights Jewish community should hold lectures and educational programs so that we can be involved in this progress and change for the better.
The most necessary education is for the black community, who are statistically responsible for more hate crimes than any other group.
Oh, and also, educate people to follow the laws and not fight police. Nearly everyone of these ‘victims’ were hardened criminals who only have themselves to blame.
you should be more concerned about the black people who murder other black people, thousands of them per year. Not the far fewer (27 in 2019, for example) killed by police.
The number closer to 300,blacks killed by police per year, every year.
See this https://www.statista.com/statistics/1124036/number-people-killed-police-ethnicity-us/
I was keeping my expectations so low because of the disgraceful track record of this country, but this is truly a miracle. To all of the people who take to the streets in protest and who raise their voices in strength and unity, thank you. We must keep fighting for humanity.
Because that is “justice”, according to your ‘logic’.
But this is absolutely justice served. Anyone that saw that video will know that it was murder, no question.
anyone who saw the video will know that Floyd was dying of a drug overdose, and was saying “I can’t breathe” long before anyone got him down on the ground.
You would, I hope, find blood libels against us Jews revolting and wrong. Well, this is a blood libel too.
Not true. Anyone can see he was dying from asphyxiation.
If it was drugs he would breath slower and slower until he slips into a coma.
That is not what you see on the video.
The ridiculous drug overdose theory was disproved.
If he said that before Chauvin had his knee on him, that would mitigate the claim that it was only from Chauvin.
Also, was his knee on Floyd’s back or his neck?
Between the vaccine and the outcome of this trial, Hashem is creating some serious miracles. May we continue to progress and develop as a more liberal, kind and open minded people.
This is nuts. These are unlike any ‘miracles’ we have ever seen. What a strange threshold. A vaccine and media and mob and democrat, but I repeat myself, determined trial verdict a ‘miracle’
Wow
Liberal (when used in the American political sense) and kindness, are mutually exclusive.
Liberals for example, want to take away peoples 2nd Amendment rights, so they can’t defend themselves from home invading gangs that will murder them and their families.
There is no “kindness” in taking away such self defense rights, only cruelty.
Liberals want to limit access to guns so that the mass shootings that have taken place in this country – countless shootings over the past two weeks – will stop.
Kindness is not murdering people. Pro gun control all the way.
How dare liberals try to enforce gun control so that American citizens can be safe and mass shootings can stop.
Asking people to wear masks so we can all be safe. Asking people to vote for gun control so we can all be safe. Asking people to support BLM so we can all be safe.
Liberals and their crazy agenda, trying to make the world a better place.
The guy that shot up the theater that was playing the batman movie went 12 miles away from his base of operations to that theater. Within 12 miles there were several other theaters playing the same movie, but that one was the only one that specifically said “no guns allowed”. Mass shooters always pick targets they think will be free of guns so no one can shoot back at them. They also do not buy their guns legally or wait through any waiting periods. They get their guns from street gangs and motorcycle gangs that smuggle them across the border… Read more »
This is only the beginning.
It is the beginning of the end, yes.
If you’re referring to the end of racism, then please Hashem let that be true.
Now the police will be even more afraid to their jobs.
Do not murder is a mitzvah lo ta’aseh incumbent on every single person in this world, Jew and Noachide alike. The Rebbe instructed us to inform, educate and make the whole world to obey, uphold and keep the 7 Noachide Laws/Commandments.
Was murdering Mr. Floyd part of their job?
He was already dying of a drug overdose. Hence the “I can’t breathe” before they ever put him down on the ground.
All cops will now be afraid to do their jobs, including those who do not murder their suspects and who would never do what Chauvin did.
They won’t stop violent criminals, for fear of being put on trial on false charges, or losing their jobs because of riots.
Great news!!
This should be the beginning of a drastic and much needed shift in this country towards equality and justice.
Defund the police!! America can be better than this if we only choose to do the right thing.
When gangs invade your home, and there is no one to help you.
How can you say that to another person!
You are right but still.
Most of us know the story with the Baal Shem Tov
When he and his chassidim watched a yid say to another yid im going to rip you like a fish and the Baal Shem Tov told his chassidim to let his hands above there heads and they saw in shomayim that this yid was ripping the other yid like a fish!
So remember think twice before you say such things!
Thank You.
I just pointed out logical consequences of such thinking.
Are these real comments? No way that guy gets a fair hearing in Minnesota. Systemic racism is occult but shameful and terrifying decay of rule of law and any pretense of due process is all too real. What about that lady who was shot through the neck. Wrong victim, justice is dead. America is likely over. Stay of social media if you can and if you cant then watch what you say. And if you are on Twitter watch who you follow because apps can determine your political leanings from your follows irrespective of what you tweet. BLM has (and… Read more »
Who’s writing these comments?
רחמנים? ביישנים? גומלי חסדים?
A few on the fringes but most on the outside.
…with such articles, always it’s the first batch of comments – very shortly after the article goes up – that are in lockstep out of sync with the views of most Jewish Crown Heightsers, and often with virtually the same wording. Only later do you start seeing comments that are largely the other way.
A bit of thought should make it obvious, then, whose opinion those comments represent.
The comments and thumbs up all started at the same time…
I’m frum and Chabad too
Oy. These comments to defund the police are horrifying.
It gives me hope that we’re moving towards a more just and equal America where black people don’t have to fear being murdered by the institutions who are supposed to protect them.
Why don’t you think of our community’s fears of being mugged, harassed and attacked by our neighbors, and the fact that the police are the only thing stopping that?
It’s not always about Jews!! Enough!! Black people are being murdered. If you’re so torn up about anti-semitism, how about you get up and do something about it. Stop tearing down BLM just because you’re too lazy to create your own movement.
Your exasperation with antisemitism shows exactly what’s wrong with BLM people.
Antisemitism is a far far greater problem, but they want to totally whitewash it and pretend that it doesn’t exist, including the rampant antisemitism inside the BLM movement just because it doesn’t support their ideology. And to BLM’ers, their ideology is more important than Jewish lives.
You on a Chabad Crown Heights website. Our community has been terrorized and traumatized for decades for not being black. If you want to talk about BLM then start your own website and leave us alone.
I’m on a Chabad website writing about justice and equality, and you’re telling me to leave? Are these values not core pillars of Judaism? If you don’t stand for love of humankind, then what does Judaism mean to you?
Is the opposite of “justice and equality”.
You are telling innocent victims they should have no protection from violent gangs.
Judaism doesn’t support such evil.
Do not prove this to be the everyday experience of the average Black person.
How many of those that sucker punch Jews in Crown Heights while praising Hitler Yemach Shmo, are ever brought to justice?
I’m not sure if you’re just uneducated or maybe you’re a full fledged racist, but there are not only “a few sensationalized cases.” There is a problem of systemic racism in this country. If you’re not aware of it, please do your research.
That’s all you have.
Let’s see you list 10 Black people killed by his who had no criminal record.
You can’t, so you will have to call me some more names. LOL
I am so curious as to what demographic BLM supporters are on COLLIVE.
Can you please share your background (i.e. ffb, bt)…
Thank you.
They are 19th amendmentnicks 😉
Raised Chabad Lubavitch, still frum and proud to represent Judaism.
Is it so hard to imagine that a frum Jew supports BLM?
Not only is that sad for you, but it’s sad for frum Jews everywhere.
Jews specifically should be supporting BLM all across this country.
I was raised in a Chabad home, BH frum throughout my life. I daven every morning, I keep Kosher and shabbos, I learn, and I march alongside and support BLM.
I don’t know what Torah you study, but mine requires me to stand up for justice, equality, and humanity. Thank Gd I was raised in a home that doesn’t just preach Judaism, but practices it as well.
How is supporting a movement specifically to promote one race over everyone else, doing any of that?
How is promoting a racist anti-Semitic movement, “practicing Judaism’?
BLM isn’t promoting once race over another, you must have them confused with the KKK and trump voters. BLM promotes equality amongst all races, for all races.
BLM does promote one race over another.
Whites that have joined with them, have been told to go away and have been beaten up and threatened with death just for standing with the Blacks at BLM rallies.
Torah following Jews, like me, have voted for trump, and most White supremacists hate him.
attacking and vilifying anyone for talking about lives mattering if they are not Black, does not promote “equality of all races”.
I’m Chabad raised, through and through. I think a differentiation needs to be made between those who are pro defunding the police and those who simply seek justice for what they deem was a very unfair death. Do I want the police to be defunded? No. They are not all bad. But just a couple hours ago a 15 year old black girl got shot in the chest four times after SHE called the police for help. G-d forbid imagine that was someone you loved? You would be outraged. As the Rebbe has ALWAYS encouraged- look out for the underdog,… Read more »
Jewish Lives Matter.
Anyone wearing a shirt saying that would get no respect or support from the racists that promote the BLM movement, which also by the way, supports the violent anti-Semitic, BDS movement.
Who’s talking about Jewish lives? Right now we’re talking about black lives. If you believe that there is systemic anti-semitism throughout America, then you’re free to start a JLM movement, but stop tearing down BLM just to further your own (irrelevant) agenda.
And stop attacking Jews on a Jewish website to promote your own “irrelevant” agenda.
there are plenty of people out there being a voice for blm. they dont need us.
If you don’t know what that means, please research it.
None of the above
I hope these aren’t Chabadniks saying defund the police in the above comments.
Let’s take the police out of crown heights for a week and see how that goes.
Yes, all “Derek Chauvins” have NO place in the police force , but that doesn’t mean all the police are bad.
Another point: as disgusting as this murder was, there was no proof that it was a racist or hate motivated act . So the rioting and looting promoted my the Marxist BLM organization and antifa is all a for a farce .
but I’m one of the commenters saying defund the police and I’m a lubavitcher 🙂 BLM!!
He was already guilty before going to court There is no righteous judgement . The media and blm is the new justice system of america .
Very concerning and dangerous
When someone murders another person, regardless of race, they deserve to be punished to the full extent of the law. When race is involved, like it so obviously was in this case, it becomes even more urgent that justice is carried out.
Your mindset has no logic. If you support law enforcement then you support all law, including the pursuit of justice and truth.
But the poster titled “justice” has a good point.
Look at the murderer of Yankel Rosenbaum.
He was caught literally red handed still holding the bloody knife he used to stab Yankel, and the all Black Jury acquitted him and took him out to dinner to celebrate.
Very well said.
While Chauvin should indeed be convicted and punished for taking another life unjustifiably why is everyone so convinced that a man who was married to an Asian woman (clearly no racism there) wouldn’t have acted with the EXACT SAME excessive force on a 6’3 white, brown or purple HIGH (frothing at the mouth), previously convicted violent criminal resisting arrest?!
BLM narrative is beyond disturbing and dishonest
Your racist rhetoric is disgusting.
what exactly is YOUR EVIDENCE that proves Chauvin’s behavior was racially motivated?
Did he use unnecessary force? For sure he did. Was it because the guy was black? I’m not convinced, and there is nothing in his history to prove that.
I love how when liberals has zero intelligent response, the only one is cries of racism
On a separate note, I love that BLM is up in arms and protesting against the killing of a beautiful little 7 year old last week in Chicago in broad daylight while getting fast food.
JASLYN ADAMS. SAY. HER. NAME.
Great news. Anyone who watched that video, and looked with an open mind without tying themselves up in knots, saw that the police officer was in the wrong and likely led to his death.
So no need for a trial then right? Did you watch any of the trial. Did you read about in anything but the popular media who are now admitted intentional liars. Why do you write ‘likely led to his death’. Do you mean that there um a reasonable doubt that it didn’t? Does that mean anything to you or you okay with guilty until proven innocent or even a preponderance of evidence (as in civil cases). Also how do you know that he ‘likely’ caused the death? Because you ‘watched the video … with an open mind’ and didn’t tie… Read more »
If you watched that video, you’d see that (a) Floyd was saying “I can’t breathe” even before he was on the ground. He died of a drug overdose, not police brutality. (b) Chauvin’s knee was on his back, not his neck.
Cops will be held accountable for murdering black people. The fight for equality will not be silenced.
Will you say “Good Morning” to the next cop you see, or are they all presumed evil unless proven otherwise?
Let a law student lay down the facts: -Third degree murder was a charge that never should have been allowed to continue. That’s called “depraved heart murder”, and a good example would be shooting a gun in a crowded room; you don’t know who would die, but you know you’ll likely kill someone. -Second degree murder would have to demonstrate the idea that Chauvin went into the situation wanting to harm Floyd but ended up killing him. Body am footage released later showed the fact that Floyd said he couldn’t breathe prior to Chauvin’s restraint, which was a restraint sanctioned… Read more »
For those of you who can’t fathom that a Chabad, orthodox Jew could ever support BLM and ever want to defund the police – I’m here to tell you you’re wrong. I am Chabad. I was raised Chabad from birth. I am frum. I believe in Hashem. I support BLM. I attend BLM marches and protests. I am a liberal. I want to defund the police. You think that people like me don’t exist but we do. I am proud of who I am and what I stand for, and I know that I am on the right side of… Read more »
BLM is an antisemitic virtue-signalling cult. BLM protests have very often ended up with displays of antisemitism. Being part of an antisemitic cult is nothing to be proud of.
When Jews were being attacks every day last year the only thing that stopped it was an increase in police all around Crown Heights. If you were able to understand what you were saying instead of just blindly repeating mantras, you would realize that a call for defunding the police is exactly like calling for the Lubavitch of community in Crown Heights to be destroyed.
Why should we believe you are even Jewish, let alone a follower of the Rebbe, OBM? Even if you are, saying to defund the police, is directly against the Sheva Mitzvohs, Bnai Noach. One of them is to set up courts of law, which are useless unless you have some kind of people to enforce the law, defunding the police goes directly against that. So by definition, you cannot possibly be a Torah following Jew, when you want the police to be defunded. That is besides that fact that the liberals, and their radical atheist religion, is against everything, Torah… Read more »
If you want us to believe that you are a Chabad, orthodox Jew.
Say your name
But I’m scared that I’ll be attacked by the crown heights community and potentially lose my job because of my liberal views. BH I’m planning on moving because this community is racist and toxic.
To libs, truth is “racist and toxic”.
The Rebbe OBM, and those who truly follow him and his teachings, are not either racist or ‘toxic’.
Those who say Loshon hara about such people and promote racist anti-Semitic groups like BLM, are.
We have a lot to be afraid of from your antisemitism, and your incitement against our community. We have a long history of attacks against us, anytime the police looked the other way for a minute. Your call to defund the police is literally a call for another Holocaust, because that is exactly what would happen.
You have nothing to be afraid of. But you won’t say your name because you’re not one of us.
“because you’re not one of us.”
As a liberal in crown heights, I have felt ostracized since I moved here. I wish there was more space for frum Jews like me within this community.
I don’t mind if others have a different way of thinking however supporting a cause such as BLM is absolutely destructive. Besides for riots and looting, anyone that doesn’t agree to their view was seen as racist and immoral. Family business forced to take a political stand (yes many family business were blackmailed on social media) or getting destroyed I know so many blacks that are so upset with the message BLM is spreading. It’s hate and it’s so distasteful. Does this align with liberal thinking? Really? What message are you trying to convey when you march or protest because… Read more »
I think there are more Chabad people with brains than these comments show, which leads me to believe all the BLM comments are by the same dumb person.
%95 Chabad people know America is far from racist, and defunding the police is suicide.
“Chabad people know America is far from racist, and defunding the police is suicide.” Read this again, pause and think for a moment, and consider how your privilege plays a part in your narrow minded view.
You believe America is far from racist? Are you black? Is there a history of systemic racism against your people in this country? Have you experienced years and years of trauma at the hands of police officers? If the answer is no, then you really have no right to say that America is far from racist because you don’t experience it.
Are you Jewish? We Jews have a history with far more oppression than blacks. It’s grotesquely ignoring to call Jews privileged when we can’t even walk down the streets in our own communities in peace because of antisemitism.
Drop the racist and antisemitic cult rhetoric and meet and talk to Jews about their experiences.
I’m a Jewish, ffb, chabad lubavitcher.
#1. This is not a competition between who experiences more oppression. Blacks and Jews each experience oppression of their own and each is valid in demanding a more equal and just society.
#2. Jews are privileged. We are white, not sure if you’ve ever noticed that but take a look at your skin color whenever you have a minute.
Jews are not white, we are Middle-Eastern. We were also historically never treated as whites. The only people who say Jews are white are antisemites who hate whites.
And the concept of white privilege is just stupid, unless you believe that being harassed, mugged and attacked while walking down the street is privilege.
White privilege is a lie, these days, and Jews never had any.
Both Blacks and Whites have oppressed Jews.
Blacks get to riot loot and commit violence en mass anytime they want.
Jews would never get away with that.
There is no affirmative action for Jews.
The only Jews who are priveliged are women, but then Black women are even more privileged.
May George Floyds memory be a blessing. Please let us continue marching, continue speaking up, continue holding racists accountable.
Quite a few idiots commenting here! Defund the police? Are you high?? If these BLM supporters commenting are really frum Yidden, I pashut feel bad that you’ve been led so astray from truth and Torah’s perspectives! The heads of the BLM movement are some of the world’s biggest anti-Semites and have caused thousands of dollars in damage and hate. Never mind the fact that people are literally being harassed / beaten up / killed daily because of them and their sick “defund the police” and “all white peoples are inherently evil” movement. Even if you could prove that Chauvan was… Read more »
It’s the Jews who voted for trump and those who have become members of the KKK nazi party who I feel sorry for.
Judaism has become so narrow minded to you that it no longer holds space for Gd. Your Torah is a skewed, angry, bigoted, warped version of a Judaism I don’t practice.
Gd willing there are enough frum Jews who will keep true Torah based Judaism alive and well in the generations to come, and we don’t all get grouped together as a hateful, racist, trump loving, uneducated people.
Only racist antisemitic Farrahkan following self hating Jews, tell such lies about Trump, his supporters, and What Torah and the Rebbe taught us.
Supporting racism and antisemitism in the phony name of political correctness is the opposite of Judiasm.
This sounds like it came from Kveller, not Collive.
Defunding the police would mean another Holocaust, it’s as simple as that.
BLM attacked Jews, vandalized shuls and chanted “kill the Jews”, they together with anyone who supports them are Nazis, and want to see NYC be Judenrein.
So nice to hear someone with the right perspectives! You’re 100% right about everything you said!
Lubavitchers supporting BLM would be the definition of Stockholm syndrome.
in all these cases is that they begin with the person RESISTING ARREST.
True, there may have been breakdowns in procedure following this but it always starts with the same thing,
If a police officer tells you an instruction you liste. Full stop. End of story.
99.9% of society does indeed do this, so why can’t these people co-operate?