By Dr. Avraham Gottesman – www.gottesmanmedical.com
Over the past few months, many of us have been confused about the state of the pandemic. Yes, it seems that the worst is behind us. Those of us living in the dense initial hotspots of Covid’s assault may remember quite vividly the wailing sirens and torrent of tragic news, so close to home, from the height of the pandemic. Many have unfortunately lost those near and dear to us to the virus’s vicious grip. But that is all behind us, right?
Hopefully, yes.
We’ve been hearing the news about the delta variant, how it’s more infectious, how hospitals are filling up again. We may have wondered, are we really about to see a repeat of March 2020, or has the equation changed? Is all this hype just that, hype? We know that the politicians and news media, the establishment and big industries, care much more about their own interests than ours. If it bleeds it leads is, after all, the motto of the media. So, why should we trust them?
We shouldn’t.
So, we at Gottesman Medical decided to have a look at the data ourselves. Being that our office primarily serves the Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods of Brooklyn, we figured we should find an area with a similar population and demographics.
Ocean County, New Jersey is a region with diverse demographics about 70 miles south of New York City. Home to approximately 700,000 individuals, with about 130,000 of those being Orthodox Jews living in the Lakewood area, Ocean County is a good analogue for the combined Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods of East Brooklyn.
Like many places, Ocean County is experiencing a significant rise in new Covid-19 cases. Similar to the above Brooklyn neighborhoods, Ocean County got hit very hard by the pandemic in the past, and had a very high prevalence of infection. Ocean County, also like the Orthodox Jewish Brooklyn neighborhoods, has a low vaccination rate, especially among heads of household with many young children (this is important because none of the Covid vaccines are currently approved for children under 12). Unlike the above neighborhoods, Ocean County is ahead of us on the upward curve of new cases. This gives us an ideal comparison to predict where we might be headed shortly. (More granular data for Lakewood specifically has been hard to come by, so we had to rely on a county-to-neighborhood level comparison. Nevertheless, this should be sufficient for the purposes of our comparison).
We went into this hoping, like we are all inclined to do, that the data would confirm there is nothing to worry about. We were thinking that perhaps things really have changed. Early in the pandemic, the following equation was inevitable:
rise in cases = rise in hospitalizations = rise in deaths one month later
Our optimism led us to posit that this time, the equation had changed. Perhaps this equation, once set in stone like a law of nature, had been disrupted, and the three parts had been decoupled; i.e. that more cases would no longer necessarily equal more deaths.
Hopefully, that was.
Unfortunately, our hope did not seem to be correct. Let us take a look at this graph from Ocean County, NJ:
As we mentioned, there is a visible uptick in recent cases, but that on it’s own is not the most concerning trend. For now, note the 7-day average of new cases from July 14.
Below is a graph of coronavirus mortality trends. When we compare the case graph with this one, we can clearly see the tragic implication of the above-mentioned equation:
First, let’s look at the current 7-day average death rate from August 14: 1.4.
Moving back up to the cases graph, we can see the 7-day average case rate from a month earlier, July 14: 27 cases. Let’s keep this in mind for later comparison.
One might argue that a death rate of 1.4, while indeed tragic, is not out of the norm. Indeed, that number may not seem like a lot. But let’s keep in mind that:
A) This is an average of how many deaths there were per day; that’s an average of more than seven deaths per week, just from Covid.
B) A 7-day average death rate of 1.4 is a statistically significant increase from zero. Unfortunately, seeing as both new cases and hospitalizations have recently increased, and how there have been more deaths in the past few days, this trend is, truthfully, concerning.
Regardless, the important question here is: Has the equation changed, or do the numbers still work the same way they did last year?
Let’s take a look at a matching time last year to find out. On November 13, 2020, we find the same death rate as August 14, 2021 (1.4):
Moving once again to a month before that, October 13 2020, we can see how the reported case rate was actually significantly higher than it was on July 14, 2021:
Now, the case fatality rate (CFR) might not have actually gone up since a year ago, but there is certainly not much evidence to say it went down.
Another concerning chart is this one illustrating hospitalization rates. As we can see, Ocean County, unfortunately, is not doing very well:
Yes, we went into this hoping against hope that we would be wrong. And, please G-d, let us be wrong. Though the trends clearly appear seasonal, and it’s looking like it might not be that different this year, we do hope mightily that this won’t turn into another wave. But as of now, the equation still seems to stand:
rise in cases = rise in hospitalizations = rise in deaths one month later
There is a silver lining, though: The equation could change.
But we must be the ones to change it. We are well aware that these figures are not just graphs and numbers. Each point marking a death is, in reality, an untold tragedy. Someone’s mother, grandfather, wife, uncle, daughter. An entire world, lost forever. Each point marking an illness could be a story of immense worry and suffering. Just recently, we had to send a child with likely Covid-19 infection to the emergency room; an otherwise healthy and lively child, now struggling to breathe.
We get it, we can’t just lockdown again, or stop socializing forever! Life must go on, and indeed, it is an honor to those dear departed that we live our lives to the fullest. Thankfully, we now have a new variable we can throw into the equation, one that has the power to mess up this twisted math for good:
Yes, we are talking about vaccination.
The data is clear. No matter which variant or age group, the vaccines — all of them — vastly reduce spread, reduce hospitalizations, and reduce death.
Let’s be realistic, we’re all sick and tired of the constant hype and politicization about lockdowns, event restrictions, etc. None of us want it. We’re tired of hearing the feigned concern of politicians and news media when we all know who’s interests they care about (and who’s they don’t). Yes, lockdowns and restrictions could save lives, and yes, we know we can’t live like that.
But we’re not suggesting more lockdowns or restrictions. Why use a hammer if we could use a fine point needle? Better yet, the fine point needle is far more effective than the hammer. Asking us to lockdown to save even one life at this point sounds, frankly, ridiculous. What’s the point of saving lives if none of us could live life? But that whole discussion is moot. All we need now is to undergo a minor inconvenience. A tiny needle prick or two is all we need now to save just one more life; a world entire.
What about the efficacy against delta? What about the side effects? What about antibodies? What about breakthrough infections? Is it really just a minor inconvenience?
We get it. There are lots of concerns, lots of data, and lots more questions. But there is a very clear signal through the noise: Overall, in the vast, vast majority of cases, vaccines work, vaccines are safe, and they cause little more suffering than some temporary aches and pains — while preventing so much more.
What about all the questions? We could discuss, and we could go on for days. Much ink has and will be spilled on this topic, and that’s OK.
But please: Let us spill ink, and not, G-d forbid, more blood.
As always, please comment in a respectful manner.
And be in touch.
Finally! There is much information and misinformation being sent every day on social media. We are not doctors or scientists.People are repeating what they read, without having any understanding of how the vaccines work or how the virus spreads, chalila.
Thank you for your message and taking a strong stand for the vaccines. The majority of the medical community claims that they are safe and effective, and they SAVE LIVES!
Dr. Rosen’s office has most of our community as his patients and he will be able to direct us if the vaccine is really necessary.
Have not heard any updates of anything serious in our community from the Gedalia Society and Dr. Rosen or from my fellow ch neighbors.
Everything BH is going normal and should continue this way.
Watch or read any news source and you will see that things are so far from normal.
People all over this country are dying, and just because it’s not currently happening in CH doesn’t mean that it can’t, that it won’t, or that your responsibility to protect humankind is any less prevalent.
Go ask Dr. Rosen to his face what he believes regarding you getting the vaccine. If that’s what it takes for you to do such an easy Mitzvah, then make that task your priority.
If you trust Dr Rosen and want to know his opinion, call his office and make an appointment. He will give you his best medical opinion for your situation.
Why is there always a discussion about vaccinate or not, when there are medication and vitamin protocols that can prevent and treat covid? The protocol is by the FLCCC Covid19criticalcare.com (click on the update dated Aug. 11). The medicines and vitamins are quite safe, (Maybe not in pregnancy), and have been around for over 40 years. The data on the site about the Ivermectin response in India, is more conclusive than the Ocean County data. The vaccine has side effects and even deaths. The Ivermectin protocol does not. If there are any medical researchers who dispute this, please do a… Read more »
Why are people on ivermectin who come down with covid being sent to the hospital for an antibody infusion (by “natural” doctors. ?
Is such an infusion less dangerous than the vaccine?
There is so much we don’t know or understand, that it is very hard to make informed decisions.
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) warned the public against using the animal parasite medicine ivermectin to treat a COVID-19 infection at home.
The Mississippi State Department of Health alert said. “Animal drugs are highly concentrated for large animals and can be highly toxic in humans. Some of the symptoms associated with ivermectin toxicity include rash, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, neurologic disorders, and potentially severe hepatitis requiring hospitalization.”
There is so much data on the efficacy of the vaccine. Is there any data on the efficacy of antibodies? We know that most of the people dying of covid have not been vaccinated, but have they had covid before? Are reinfections happening? As a community in which most people had covid already this is an important question.
This is a question which has inexplicably been ignored, which is perplexing especially here since so many people were sick with covid in our community over a year ago and I personally am not aware of a prevalence here of people being sick with symptoms, recovering, and then contracting covid again..
There is good data answering this:
According to CDC research, unvaccinated Kentucky residents who tested positive for COVID-19 in 2020 were 2.34 times as likely to be reinfected in May-June 2021 compared to those who were vaccinated after their first run-in with the disease.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7032e1-H.pdf
This is why it’s critical that even people who were infected get vaccinated too.
This is terrible data — learn to read
“Kentucky residents who were not vaccinated had 2.34 times the odds of reinfection compared with those who were fully vaccinated” does NOT say previously infected, rather they are lumped into the group of unvaccinated.
also… “…few real-world epidemiologic studies exist to support the benefit of vaccination for previously infected persons. ”
oh and buried at the end “…Therefore, the association of reinfection and lack of vaccination might be overestimated. ”
What i find surprising is that from a case of 250 people the CDC makes a decision to ‘recommend’ vaccinating previously infected.
Israel have proven this not to be true! Anything the CDC says is suspect as they change stories, and dont want to allow proven cheap remedies, and want to push vaccines
People who had covid in israel are immune and not getting it again and are not told to get vaccine
There you go again! The one and only article you keep posting has FIVE — count ’em FIVE caveats admitted by its own writers. And the pro-big-pharma biases of the CDC (your researchers’ chameleon sponsors) is already well-known.
*Here, again, a prominent immunologist refutes your “data source”:*
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6268257734001/
So wake up amd smell the coffee already, “Answer.” Please take your head out of your echo chamber and realize you do not have a monopoly on truth.
Anti-bodies do not last as long as the vaccine, and they are not as good at preventing symptoms as the vaccine is.
The Governor of Texas just got Covid after getting vaccinated, but even he said (he being a hardcore republican) that the reason his symptoms are so mild is because he was thank Gd vaccinated.
50% of new infections are fully vaccinated. And the number is increase.. this is total vaccine failure.
The more important question is whether a vaccinated individual will fare better (deaths, side effects, etc.) than a non-vaccinated person. Scientific & medical data conclude & report a resounding ‘yes’.
Yes but the cases of the fully vaxxed are more mild and less deaths
Natural immunity lasts longer than this vaccine as has been proven by lack of new cases in those recovered.
The vaccine gave some immunity for just 4 months, hence israel is giving 3rd doses
The governor took his booster shot and then got sick. Antibodies last longer. My mother still has antibodies and she had a mild case of covid in March of 2019. the vaccine will not end the pandemic the immune system will. the Vaccine will promote more mutations.
The latest data shows that while having recovered from covid confers immunity, the effect isn’t as strong as the immunity you get from the vaccine.
More specifically, people who recovered from covid but didn’t get vaccinated were more than twice as likely to get reinfected:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm
Reinfections are happening even after one has been vaccinated, but the symptoms are much more mild and far less dangerous because the vaccine is working.
So many in CH have had covid including myself, but I got vaccinated because I don’t ever want to be that close to death again. If I Gd forbid get covid again, I know that I’ll be protected from the worst of the symptoms.
I’m also still wearing my mask indoors because there are children who cannot yet be vaccinated and I may be carrying the virus. I wear my mask to protect them.
In israel unvaccinated children in hareidi schools are found thru serological testing, to have antibodies to covid. Their communities had high rates of covid in the beginning before any vaccines. This is in sharp contast to those who took vaccines even 4 month ago, who are now filling the hospitals with 60% of the cases. I suspect most of crown hts is immune through exposure or recovery to corona Those who had corona rarely get it again as natural immunity has been found to last, unlike with covid vaccines. It is not true that most of the people dying of… Read more »
You don’t mention the variable that is an increase in covid treatment and medication. Why couldn’t that change the equation? Why do you solely focus on the vaccine? Your theory is flawed.
And the majority of doctors themselves all got vaccinated! What better proof of safety is there?
plenty of people catching covid and being hospitalized now, are vaccinated!! Israel is on their third dose and yet in another lockdown… something is not adding up in regards to pushing this vaccine. On the other hand the “scientist and “politicians” who are working on pushing vaccine are not pushing for other studies that show other effective treatments. Other treatments that have been proven to work… From the get go this whole pandemic has been rigged. From what I understand from these graphs that the deaths only start once the hospitals get overwhelmed. Maybe deal with that variant and hmmm… Read more »
Media is silencing doctors who speak out againt vaccine. I know of several doctors whose lives were threatened. This applies within the chabad community as well
Please go get vaccinated. Please. I’m so worried for the CH community. There are so many individuals there who I care about deeply and I’m begging you, please go get vaccinated.
Please. I’m so worried that you are not looking at the facts. The people who got sick and then recovered in March and April of 2020 (almost a year and a half ago)- are they getting sick again? If so, that is a well kept secret.
Some of them are getting sick again and some of them are spreading covid to their children. Schools are about to reopen, the weather is about to get cooler, and the delta variant is out of control. I don’t know if you’re living in a bubble or if you’re exposed to newspapers and news networks, but people are dying all over this country!! The numbers are back up to where they were last March and April!! This pandemic is not over and it’s not to be taken lightly. Go get vaccinated, put your mask back on, and learn some current… Read more »
whos says getting vaccinated is the answer?
I’m so concerned for the CH community and the world at large. The vaccine is killing people and people aren’t getting the message. Please refrain from getting vaccinated and keep yourself and your loved ones safe
Thank you for writing this article. I hope it will clarify minds and lead to many people getting vaccinated.
clarification, yes. Vaccination, who says thats the answer? this article proves nothing in that regards
Did I miss something or was the medically legitimate discussion on the subject of natural immunity missing from this report? Meaning, addressing the reports which suggest that those who were ALREADY sick with covid and recovered- which represents a very large percentage of our adult community- may be as well or better protected than those who receive the vaccine.
What of the people who had the virus? Why should they jab? Against what? I’m appalled at the fictitious figures that are being used from the propaganda of the vaccine manufacturers. Where’s HASHEM in all this? We need to do what is necessary. There are safe remedies to forestall the virus, as well as help heal if someone does get it. Why don’t you give equal time to the safest way of healing? And since Hashem runs the world, HE will keep us healthy and safe without being exposed to a DANGEROUS VACCINE ABOUT WHICH AL THE NEGATIVE RESULTS ARE… Read more »
Hashem does not want us relying on miracles! He wants us to do our hishtadlus and go get vaccinated!
Just because you already had covid does not mean that you can’t get it or spread it again! The vaccine and wearing a mask are proven to be the best ways to prevent either of those scenarios.
What proof is there that a recovered person who had covid virus can spread it
You sweet summer child. We literally have a tradition about hashem sending the cure – we have the vaccine! That’s the safe remedy to forestall the virus!
The rebbe spoke about this i believe in 1991.
He said there would be a time like this.
He said hashem sends the remedy before the illness.
That it is an old remedy for a new illness. He said if they look they will find it.
This fits hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin which were around then.
The vaccine was not around then and is not a cure.
Vaccines are to prevent serious illness before having the illness in the one vaccinated assuming the vaccine works.
but vaccines do not prevent spreading of the illness to others
This vaccine’s technology has been in the works since the 80s so this only supports the rebbe’s words in favor of the vaccine.
wrong!
[1] as above it wasn’t then a “remedy” ready for use
[2] a little research (albeit uphill against the current censorship and heavily funded propaganda war etc) shows that even the manufacturers admit that it is (at best) a new experimental (m r n a) gene therapy and not a traditional “V”…
please everyone do some due diligence research (and try keeping an open mind to all sources of info – not only what you are deliberately being fed…) before jumping to conclusions…
brilliant proof re a remedy that is already ready for use
What proof that it’s safe?
“Where’s HASHEM in all this? ”
The same place he was in March 2020
This Content Was Published at https://collive.com/dr-gottesman-discusses-the-delta-variant-and-its-effects/
I’m 19 years old, I already had covid, based off what I’ve seen, natural immunity is very strong and perhaps better then the vaccine, the cleavland clinic came out with a study saying that if you had covid then you don’t need the vaccine, so why should I take it? Most of the community has had covid already and natural immunity is barley discussed, it’s either get the VACCINE or your a BAD person that doesn’t care about anyone, no I’m NOT a BAD person that doesn’t care about the elders in the community, when covid started in March 2020… Read more »
well said! mandates would put to pre-1940 scenarios ch”v…
According to the latest data it turns out that natural immunity is not quite as effective as the immunity from the vaccine.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm
There is no natural immunity, anti-bodies do not last and that is why you need the vaccine.
Even if you had covid already, you can still get it or spread it again. The vaccine will help make your symptoms way less dangerous if you Gd forbid get it again, and wearing a mask will help prevent you from spreading it to other people.
Get vaccinated and wear your mask!
Vaccines will not stop you spreading illness to others. You just may get a milder case.
If you had covid already it is unlikely you will get it again as you have immunity far superior to vaccine
Look at israel with 60% of hospital cases from the vaccinated.
The vaccine protection lasted 4 to 6 months so now they are getting boosters
Those who had covid dont get vaccine as they are proven to still be immune
Is that not better than having to be hospitalised?
I know quite a few people who jad antibodies this year in June when having covid in March 2020. High antibodies. Look at Israel and you’ll see that some people didn’t have antibodies anymore 3-6 months after the vaccine. Bh, I had covid almost a year ago and when there was covid in my house a few months ago, I wasn’t especially careful (in the house of course, we basically quarantined during that period although we probably didn’t need to) and bh didn’t get sick. Additionally, there was an article around a month ago about the cases in Israel, this… Read more »
Let’s take a look at where Israel stands despite their high vaccination rate.
as opposed to Egypt. Same demographics, not nearly the same amount of vaccinations. No uptick. It is very telling
In hebron and arab areas and gaza where they didnt vaccinate there are very few cases. Their areas are green as compared to kiryat malachi and kfar chabad where they vaccinated to be able to enter shul. They are red with kfar chabad having 288 cases and kiryat malachi 428 cases. This is from israel health statistics on cases per cities in israel. Look it up if you dont believe me.
Wonderful to see Jewish doctors encouraging our community to get vaccinated! Go get the vaccine!!
Please provide statistics on death or serious illness by age group. Anecdotal evidence is just that anecdotal evidence. Do you know I heard a child just dies from this very weird illness, and?
Doctors are following the word of Hashem. Thank you for encouraging the vaccine and saving lives!!
Please go get vaccinated, your fellow Jews need you to save their lives.
Covid is still a very real threat, to those who have never had it and to those who have. Go get vaccinated and wear your mask!!
Require masks and vaccines for all the schools in CH
Everyone should have the freedom to not get vaccinated.
If one gets sick and dies it will the result of his poor choice.
If one is young and healthy or has antibodies and decided not to get vaccinated we should honor that decision.
Those that are vaccinated have not to worry.
Each on their own.
I can’t think of a less Jewish mindset.
I believe we are all in this together. I got the vaccine because I care about my life and yours, and I wear my mask because I care about you.
We are a people, one nation, we must look out for one another.
A normal response!
I had covid, with symptoms, twice. A year apart.
Your natural immunity lasted a year unlike covid vaccine immunity which lasts 4 to 6 months according to what we see in israel where they are getting boosters
Those who are worried got vaccinated. Those who don’t get vaccinated are not worried.
Those who can’t get vaccinated, or those who decided they can’t. Feel free to self quarantine and double/triple mask.
Kids can’t get vaccinated yet, but for some unknown reason the schools aren’t requiring the teachers to be vaccinated or even wear masks!!
Kids don’t have a choice , their lives depend on adults to make the right choices, and yet the parents and teachers of CH are doing nothing to protect the next generation.
Israel is testing children in school using serological tests and finding many have antibodies even though they were never sick
The Rebbe always instructed following the advice of medical professionals on medical issues. This article was written by a medical professional, and is the consensus of the medical community.
Whether or not you like it, I would urge everyone to put aside your own yeshus and follow the Rebbe’s and doctors instructions.
The Rebbe encouraged to follow your Rofeh Yedid. That is your personal doctor, that knows your medical history and thats your Yedid.
He would not advice a whole community to do the same and advice just for you on a case by case basis.
How many covid patients has this author treated and cured? Not a medical profesional at all
THe Rebbe said to go to a rofeh yedid. Is Dr. Gottesman YOUR Rofeh yedid? If not, this comment does not apply.
It delegitimizes everything else you say (no matter how right you are).
It’s like talking to a wall, but let’s try this again.
Natural immunity doesn’t last, the vaccine does. Go get vaccinated, take the booster shot when you can, and wear your mask.
Natural immunity is far superior to any vaccine. Natural immunity to covid lasts at least a year. Do you expect t,o take covid booster shots every 4 to 6 months? What effect will that have?
The vaccine doesn’t last either. That’s why you need booster shots.
In comparing severe disease rates per 100,000 people, yesterday there were 97.3 unvaccinated severely ill per 100,000 unvaccinated people in Israel, compared to only 17 fully vaccinated severely ill per 100,000 vaccinated people in Israel. In Washington those same rates were 606 and 12 hospitalizations per 100,000 people respectively.
Amd btw many vaccinated women have had babies and it did not increase any miscarriage rate
This is because they stopped counting or testing breakthrough cases (covid cases within 2 weeks of the shot) in addition, they only count you as fully vaccinated from 2 weeks after 2nd dose. So if you get covid after first dose or right after 2nd, you’re considered unvaccinated….
that is not what the doctors in Hertzog hospital in Israel are saying. Their graphs show that fully vaxxed people are sicker.
I see a bunch of comments asking why nothing was said about reinfection, antibodies, etc.
All those people making those comments totally missed the part of the article comparing Brooklyn to Lakewood.
That was the whole point of studying Lakewood specifically. As the article said “Ocean County got hit very hard by the pandemic in the past, and had a very high prevalence of infection.”
Lakewood should have had the kind of herd immunity through previous infection that people are hoping the religious communities of Brooklyn will have.
Unfortunately, that did not happen.
This is from the New York Times, discussing the high rate of breakthrough infections and hospitalizations of people who have been fully vaccinated. The vaccines do save from death to a high degree, but they are only partially effective in preventing Covid infection after you have been vaccinated. According to the New York Times today (August 17) up to 25% of fully vaccinated people get infected with Covid. They state that the actual numbers are actually much higher, because fully vaccinated people mostly do not get tested for Covid. In Israel, according to the Jerusalem Post (a reputable news source)… Read more »
Sorry but this article does not prove the vaccine safe or effective. I agree that charts show rise in cases but i disagree that this vaccine is the answer as vaccines are tested 10 yrs before being released to the public unlike this one.
This article forgets that now people have natural immunity unlike earlier
This doctor is not a medical expert with experience treating and curing covid
There are known remedies and preventives not known before such as Vit D and quercetin
Just in response, the mRNA technology used in vaccines has not been rushed, it’s been studied for decades. “Moderna has been working with mRNA technology “since its inception in 2010 for myriad therapeutic areas,” including cancer therapies”
Remedies and “preventatives” are the unproven, untested, and experimental thing here.
Right now people who are suffering with severe Covid are young, healthy, often without preexisting conditions and mostly unvaccinated.
Please go get vaccinated!!!
Are we continuing to ignore the efficacy of ivermectin protocols (including supplements, that have already been peer reviewed with highly impressive results both prophylactically (& yes dare I say , INSTEAD of vaccines) and therapeutically (if treatment is started as soon as possible)? Why is this being totally ignored as a legitimate & life saving alternative with NO KNOWN safety concerns…. A drug that has been used literally on billions of people over the last 4-5 DECADES?! Contrast Ivermectin’s safety profile with the CDCs own vaccine adverse event reaction site, that reports in the last 6 months ALONE, more adverse… Read more »
MRna technology in vaccines have been studied and used safely for over a decade in cancer treatments.
I would like to see such studies about ivermectin effectiveness in Covid treatments and which institutions are putting the studies out if they are reputable or not.
If ivermectin is so effective, then why are healthy people who are unvaccinated still dying in great numbers?
When you look at numbers of adverse effects of the vaccines, please compare them to the adverse effects of Covid, the effects of long Covid which can turn a healthy person into an unhealthy person.
The injection is so effective Israel now requires a 3rd shot. Natural immunity is being left out of the discussion, the question is WHY? Why are monoclonal antibodies, h-seek-u, and iver mectin being left out?
Wether you had or not the vaccine.. everyone should have this early treatment kit in their house.
From the most published doctors in the US. Constantly being censored.
They have a recent video on their site discussing their updated protocol for the delta variant and all others.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/i-mask-plus-protocol/
https://c19ivermectin.com/
The incredibly safe protocols that have been around for decades, tested on billions of people, that have been proven to be extremely effective in many peer reviewed published studies? By contrast…Why would anyone want to take any new therapy, that hasn’t even been FDA approved yet, that has not stopped transmissibility, that wipes out your own G-d given immunity if you’ve had COVID already, and has , as shown on the CDCs VAERS (vaccine adverse event reaction site), reported more adverse reactions to this vaccine than all the other vaccines combined, in the last TWENTY years…. 🤔Wait, I know… so… Read more »
It is surprising that the article focuses only on the case fatality rate and pays no attention at all to two key points: 1) How many of the recent fatalities have been breakthrough Covid cases? Also, how many of the recent fatalities have been cases of reinfection? 2) Like halachic questions, the approach to medical care must be on an individual level. No two questions are exactly alike, and the individual circumstances must be weighed. For questions of Covid, it REALLY makes a difference if (for example) the person is old or young, and what their co-morbities may be. Taking… Read more »
Regarding the above questions on reinfections – the common strain currently going around is the new delta variant. It has a slightly different make up from the original Covid virus that was going around crown heights in March 2020. People can absolutely get infected with this that were originally infected with Covid.
There is a major over reliance on antibodies within our community. Even without delta, antibodies fade with time until they aren’t helpful anymore. Then introduce delta and the protection really isn’t reliable.
Vaccination = how you can stay safe now.
May Hashem protect us all.
And like the generality of variants, it is more contagious and less harmful.
When you hear someone promoting the vaccine: Ask them if they’re aware that the development of them was helped mightily by Operation Warp Speed, a public-private initiative spearheaded by Trump, while meanwhile much of the media pooh-poohed the possibility of one being developed so fast. Furthermore, Democrats such as Kamala Harris said that they’d distrust any vaccine manufactured under the Trump administration. That being the case, are they grateful to Trump for the vaccine, and recognize that his opponents were wrong? If their agenda in promoting the vaccine is to save lives, why then they’ll have no problem with that.… Read more »
Operation Warp Speed was CRITICAL to get these vaccines so quickly. They are a miracle and impressive in their efficacy against hospitalization and death. Thank you Trump and GET VAXXED.
What about those who were fully vaccinated and then got covid?
Thank Gd they got the vaccine because their symptoms will be way way way more mild.
That is called a breakthrough infection. It happens and will be more common as a percent of the population in more vaccinated countries (math!). Breakthrough infections are also mild for the vast majority and the vaccine is extremely effective at preventing hospitalization and death.
What about natural immunity from having covid? What about how the injections wipe your natural immunity clean? What about hydroxychloroquine, and ivermectin? Is the unresearched vaccine the only way to go?
… does not exist.
Yes, the vaccine that was thoroughly researched is the only way to go.
Natural immunity is somewhat protective but reinfection happens. The data shows that the vaccine is more effective in preventing hospitalization and death.
The injections do not wipe natural immunity clean. That is not how the immune system works.
Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin are controversial treatments that are contraindicated in many cases. There are other effective treatments (such as steroids) but not all patients respond well and severe illness is often resulting in death in unvaccinated in very high numbers.
The vaccine is extensively researched. It is, BY FAR, the best tool to end the pandemic.
How can we and Doctors encourage a medicine that is not FDA approved?
Are we monkeys or mice?
At this moment it’s EXPERIMENTAL!
FDA approval is expected very soon, many news sources are saying within the next two weeks.
It’s a real vaccine. It’s proven to work. This is reality. Wake up.
Will you get it when it is fully FDA-approved? Approval is expected within weeks. If not, then stop lying and saying you are waiting for FDA approval and just admit you believe in conspiracy theories and trust wackos on the internet instead of scientists who have dedicated their lives to this field.
Dr. Paul Campbell presents extensive facts
and figures to back up what he says.
Okay, hydroxychloroquine was successful
in those studies using a lower dose than standard.
The studies using the standard dose indicated poorer
results. See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uzXHnUViro
However, he supports the use of the vaccines, and
points out that the few, serious, even deadly adverse
affects pales in comparison to the benefits.
so far See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCdTHgRSs3o
Dr paul campbell ois not a doctor at all. He is a nurse and not a medical expert treating and saving covid patients
I dont know how he gets away with the title on his videos as dr. I used to listen to all his videos until i found out he was a nurse not a doctor and that he pushed the vaccines
there are treatments that work! but of course the media is trying to hide it…
when trump said that hydroxychloroquine could be a cure for covid the lancet(one of the most prestigious medical journals) instantly came out with a study showing how hydroxychloroquine does not work for the virus.
a few days later they retracted the study-the first time in the publications history that they did such a thing (since it turned out that the study was completely unfounded).
and there are many such cases…..
They retracted their original Wakefield article (which was proved fraudulent) about vaccines and autism.
When they find they were wrong, they say it and retract what they previously published, This makes them trustworthy.
The CDC used the study, after it was withdrawn, to push vaccines.
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And yet the residents of crown heights have never acted more selfishly.
Put on your mask. Get the vaccine. Stop killing people.
Unvaccinated are not killing people! Did you forget hashem decides who lives and who dies and he despises hatred of jews against jews. In israel so called rabbis called unvaccinated murderers. Maybe those pushing vaccine that has killed many people are really the murderers. I personally know of people in crown hts who had bad reactions and died from this vaccine. Let people make their own decisions and realize hashem runs the world and stop blaming others
Since when did everyone become a medical expert? Since when did everyone have an opinion? We do as the doctors say. They are messengers of HaShem. Trust me, you’ll be less anxious if you just naaseh vnishmah
Doctors are being threatened, yes even in crown hts, to push a vaccine that they dont feel is right for their patients. Medical experts who have succesfully treated covid patients with available remedies, are not all pushing this vaccine as the media would like you to believe. The rebbe suggested asking several medical opinions as well