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Thank you
October 14, 2020 1:52 pm

To this rightful man who wrote this article!!

BLM
October 14, 2020 1:57 pm

they should all carry BLM signs then the mayor will allow it

Dismayed
October 14, 2020 2:20 pm

Thank you for sharing this.
These are sad times for Yidden when there is such blatant anti Semitic feelings.

And those who act and speak in ways causing Chillul Hashem,…. make everything worse.

Agreed
October 14, 2020 3:23 pm

Agreed that there is a double standard and they are going after the Orthodox neighborhoods but…. maybe if you went under the radar a bit more, it would help. We were in Crown Heights this summer and saw that barely anyone was wearing a mask. Were we live most people wear even if they have had corona already, even if they think its ridiculous and think this will all go away after the election. They wear them as a courtesy to others and to not make a Hillul Hashem. You have created a Hillul Hashem. They are going after you… Read more »

don't judge
Reply to  Agreed
October 14, 2020 3:52 pm

#1 as someone who doesn’t live in ch you have no idea what is the actual situation is on the ground. #2 if the government is truly anti semitic as this article (truthfully) points out, they will target us no matter how many masks we wear.

Not really
Reply to  Agreed
October 14, 2020 4:31 pm

They were after us from the start no matter what. This isnt new. and in the summer, nobody was wearing masks in the area. This wasnt specific to Jews.

HOW DARE YOU
Reply to  Not really
October 14, 2020 6:08 pm

Do not lie to make your point. In manhattan and park slope everyone wore masks all summer long despite the heat even people who were riding bikes or running

HOW DARE YOU
Reply to  HOW DARE YOU
October 14, 2020 6:59 pm

Do not lie to make your point.
In CROWN HEIGHTS. This was the situation. At beginning there were some non Jews wearing and by mid summer, hard to find – just as with us. I am NOT talkking about other surrounding areas.

Either way its a lose lose situation
Reply to  Agreed
October 14, 2020 4:33 pm

True, one is not allowed to make a chilul Hashem. What about V’Nishmartem l’nafshoseichem? wearing a mask can make you sick!! breathing in all that bacteria that is built up in a mask is making more people sick than the mask wearers who are catching corona anyway, since the masks are not helpful. So if I have to pick and choose which mitzvah to be careful with, I’ll watch my health and not wear a mask!

Dr Who
Reply to  Either way its a lose lose situation
October 14, 2020 5:24 pm

That sounds scientifically correct.

Factually wrong.
Reply to  Dr Who
October 14, 2020 5:35 pm

It’s actually not.
There has been 0 evidence that mask wearing posses a risk, for people without medical conditions.
I challenge anyone to bring actual proof

Dont Generalize
Reply to  Factually wrong.
October 14, 2020 7:01 pm

Do you have severe asthma that makes mask-wearing difficult? I know many in this situation

Crown Heightser
Reply to  Factually wrong.
October 14, 2020 7:17 pm

Of course wearing a mask makes the person sick! Notice that doctors and nurses wear masks when operating, and guess what? THEY ARE IN THE HOSPITAL! Wearing masks gets them into hospitals! Stay healthy, keep the masks off!

Please remind your doctor or surgeon
Reply to  Dr Who
October 14, 2020 6:36 pm

to not wear a mask when they’re working on you.

Reader
Reply to  Agreed
October 14, 2020 4:44 pm

Well said

Who is the governor?
October 14, 2020 3:30 pm

Should we address him as the “honorable Governor CuomoMierta?”

Perspective
October 14, 2020 4:38 pm

Instead of crying about “unfair” treatment, I prefer to pray alone, at home, and thank God everyday that my sons and daughters were born with the right shade of skin color, that they don’t get snuffed out like an animal in broad daylight by the police who are meant to protect and serve. I thank God that I can pray to him, alone, at home and not have to worry about being shot and killed in my own home for no reason at all. Hashem is everywhere and I can pray to him anywhere….and I am fortunate enough in life,… Read more »

Huh?
Reply to  Perspective
October 14, 2020 5:22 pm

Stop conflating things that have no connection. Are you also grateful to teach your children that ‘two wrongs make a right’? Or that if someone does something wrong to them, they can go and wrong others?
What on earth does one have to do with the other?

Perspective
Reply to  Huh?
October 14, 2020 7:10 pm

It has to do with the fact that the article is specifically comparing BLM protests to our community not being allowed to gather. No community is allowed to gather right now….and the fact that an entire group of people live in such dangerous conditions that they are willing to risk their health to protest the injustices that they face, should not be used as a VALID argument to the position of the Mayor and Governor pointing out the absolute disregard for the health and safety of OUR own people by our OWN people. Follow the law and you won’t be… Read more »

Facts
Reply to  Perspective
October 14, 2020 6:20 pm

According to the Washington Post this year 14 unarmed black men were killed by police compared to 25 unarmed whites so your narrative is factually incorrect

Perspective
Reply to  Facts
October 14, 2020 7:13 pm

Now adjust that number for population size…. oh, and I wouldn’t use the WP to validate any point relating to this topic. Their bias is well documented.

Freedom of religion
Reply to  Perspective
October 14, 2020 8:05 pm

Your drama is ignoring the main point of this article that freedom of speech is being allowed yet freedom of religion is not. Let that sink in. Your right to practice your religion is your right and no government official should be taking that away ever. That is unconstitutional and abhorrent and an overreach of government in an egregious manner. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion should be allowed equally. And currently they are not. This is a major problem and should be fought as it can be the beginning of worse. You should be free to practice your… Read more »

Welcome to the Real world
October 14, 2020 4:54 pm

For all those who said ‘antisemitism’ is only in main land Europe.

Your NYC mayor ימ”ש & NYS Governor ימ” ש are just as dangerous.

So to the amount of (Jewish) Democrats who GLADLY welcome what is being done & would gladly vote for those who want to destroy the country which provided a safe heaven for our brethren in times of need

2 separate issues
October 14, 2020 5:01 pm

Issue #1: Of course wear a mask if only to make your neighbor feel better, for heaven’s sake (take that literally and figuratively.) Issue #2: ABSOLUTELY, there’s a double standard going on here. Other communities who nobody wants to start up with for fear of very negative political repercussions (to put it mildly,) are also showing spikes in corona cases, but nobody dares say a word to them. To put it bluntly, if you had no “protectzia” and got stuck in an isolated area with an angry member of a minority group you better believe you’d pray that the person… Read more »

Why
October 14, 2020 5:41 pm

There are more cases in the orthodox community that is a fact.
There is less compliance of the rules in the orthodox community that is also a fact.
So it would make sense to focus your attention to where the cases are.
Now as a matter of policy you can disagree with restrictions and lockdown measures, but that would be irrespective of who the rules affect.

To- why
Reply to  Why
October 14, 2020 5:56 pm

Your entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts – so stop making up things and just open your eyes up a little

It’s against frum jews
October 14, 2020 5:58 pm

They’re against the orthodox not all Jews which is why many Jews are the perpetrators behind antisemtisn towards the frum, even in our community , Jews need to stop being ashamed and be proud and unified

This was discussed
October 14, 2020 6:09 pm

Most people in crown heights and other frum neighborhoods had it, that’s why they feel safer gathering and not wearing masks. Also we actually do things with our neighbors kids go to same schools we meet each other in Shul. In non Jewish neighborhoods they don’t intermingle like we do so there is less exposure

Keep calm and carry on
October 14, 2020 6:48 pm

These are very new challenges for everyone, including those in positions of authority: that is, each parent, each principal, each mayor, governor, president. Maybe most leaders are not outrageous, hypocritical, malicious.
The USA has had one of the least authoritative responses to covid of the western world, but the most outrage. I say, maybe we can still afford to keep calm, practice some self-soothing techniques, de-escalate tensions and generally strive for a peaceful home, neighborhood, country and world.

Well Said
October 14, 2020 8:11 pm

Finally

Trump 2020
October 14, 2020 9:46 pm

The only way this anti-Semitism will end is if Trump gets reelected so therefore every jew has an obligation to vote for Trump!!!!

Vote for Trump, but...
Reply to  Trump 2020
October 15, 2020 3:09 am

Antisemitism will end when Moshiach is fully revealed, and not before

Article of interest
October 15, 2020 12:42 am

If you are a believing Jew, then you should realize that all of these decrees are really coming from Hashem. Cuomo is just Hashem’s messenger.

Please take the time to read this transcript from a shiur that Rabbi Eliyayu Brog (grandson of Rabbi Avigdor Miller, zt”l) recently gave. He has good advice for our current situation.

https://www.emes.news/torah/transcript-of-rav-eliyahu-brogs-shiur-covid-crisis-is-middah-kineged-middah-of-how-we-persecuted-our-unvaccinated-brethren/

Ariel
Reply to  Article of interest
October 15, 2020 6:42 am

Avigdor Miller wrote an appalling book trying the “justify” and “explain” the Shoah. He was born in America. The Friediker Rebbe went through the carpet bombing of Warsaw and said, “I haven’t the slightest interest in justifying what happened.”

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/64888/jewish/The-Rebbe-on-the-Holocaust.htm

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