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You forgot one thing
March 27, 2020 5:41 pm

Unfortunately there are still minyanim around town (in Crown Heights), not sure why but for some people they feel this is the only connection to God, sorry to break it to you but God does not want ur minyin now. In all seriousness I personally know someone that died because of one of theses minyanim JUST STOP!!! FOR REAL!!! (Same applies if ur a Chiuv, honestly the only thing you’re gaining is just going to have by the end of next month hundreds of young kids saying kaddish because you needed to say kaddish for your 95 year old father… Read more »

100%
Reply to  You forgot one thing
March 27, 2020 6:25 pm

Agree

Report to 311
Reply to  You forgot one thing
March 28, 2020 8:56 pm

This is an issue of pikuach nefesh, please report them!

Don't report them
Reply to  Report to 311
March 28, 2020 9:37 pm

Speak to a Rov

Why so assuming
Reply to  You forgot one thing
March 28, 2020 9:34 pm

Yes listen to Rabbanim
But you also have to give people the benefit of the doubt

Yossel
Reply to  You forgot one thing
March 28, 2020 10:11 pm

There’s a regular Minyan (3x daily) right outside my front door. It takes a lot of inner strength to reamin inside and daven alone when I can go on my porch and daven with them 3 times a day!

Very nice
March 27, 2020 5:55 pm

B”H

But as I was outside for shopping or taking care of any other important stuff, I still see older people walking around, without even gloves or masks, I really don’t understand why they don’t just stay home at this moment.

We are trying as a community to not let THEM get sick.

Please, if you are over 60 try to stay home, or at least go outside with proper protection.

Over 60 but who will do it for me
Reply to  Very nice
March 28, 2020 10:17 pm

As a CH resident I have no problem with staying home since I am over 60.However,I have nobody who will purchase food for me,nor do I think that it reasonable to ask someone to do that for me.There are also no place to find masks
currently without a 2 week delay online via Amazon,Target,or Walmart.Please people,be realistic in the crisis and give advice that makes sense,then it is easier to be community conscious

Gedaliah Society Hotline
Reply to  Over 60 but who will do it for me
March 28, 2020 10:51 pm

The Gedaliah Society set up a hotline specifically for this and they have many volunteers who are more than willing and able to help.

You can contact them at 212-901-2000 or [email protected].

Over 60 but who will do it for me
Reply to  Gedaliah Society Hotline
March 29, 2020 8:45 am

We hat to eat a certain way and we have to watch our budget very carefully as to how to eat efficiently, being on fixed income. This would make more sense if you had donations of food combined, but asking someone to spend your own resources, unless you had family members who understand the needs of the person in need, this does not seem like a good advice. More practical: Get masks into the hands of the able-bodied people over 60. Have a gemach for masks now for this unique need to help furthger safeguard the community

Masks are now at pharmacys
Reply to  Over 60 but who will do it for me
March 28, 2020 10:54 pm

Almost all local stores are delivering

Over 60 but who will do it for me
Reply to  Masks are now at pharmacys
March 29, 2020 8:40 am

Local stores don’t have masks. they are sold out

CH resident
Reply to  Over 60 but who will do it for me
March 28, 2020 11:14 pm

Call the hotline, they will do shopping, errands. We needed it for my father in law, and all family was either sick or in quarantine
212 901 2000

Or 332 217 1718

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Reply to  Over 60 but who will do it for me
April 4, 2020 9:47 pm

all Jew and chabdniks should have volunteers to do shopping 4 food instead of anithing else thei do like shlichut etc

Well said !
March 27, 2020 5:57 pm

Thank your Hatzola!!!

Right on
March 27, 2020 6:02 pm

Thanks for sharing. Have a great and healthy Shabbos everyone

Kids going to pick up school lunch
March 27, 2020 6:04 pm

Many kids are going to schools to pick up lunch for the whole family.
Soon will be more errands as people need food and etc for Passover

No...
Reply to  Kids going to pick up school lunch
March 28, 2020 5:56 am

Kids should not be doing shopping for the family at this time. Adults have to take responsibility and take care of that part of life themselves, kids can do other jobs at home. Kids cannot be adequately cautious in public.
I know it’s hard before Pesach, but it’s necessary.

Way to spread the virus
March 27, 2020 6:44 pm

This is apologetics. Stay home. Stop the weddings. Stop the wedding Parades.

Don't stop
Reply to  Way to spread the virus
March 28, 2020 9:35 pm

You don’t push off a wedding

wedding bare minimum
Reply to  Don't stop
March 31, 2020 1:31 am

chosson kalla, eidim, read kesuba and basically that’s it. Definitely no dancing in the street-that is crazy

Stop it all stay home!!!
Reply to  Way to spread the virus
March 29, 2020 8:45 am

Agree

Proud Bais Rivkah Girl
March 27, 2020 6:47 pm

Thank you HATZOLAH!!

Nonsense!!
March 27, 2020 6:58 pm

Everyone or most of us have it by now. The question is not whether you have it or not. it’s how bad will it be for you. With that said you should still keep away from old people and people with underlying issues…. (the only thing quarantine is helping is the hospitals– so the numbers are lower but sooner or later everyone is going to have it) So staying in quarantine is not the solution unless no one in your house is sick and you’re planning on staying inside your house till they have the Cure which could take a… Read more »

You said it...
Reply to  Nonsense!!
March 28, 2020 9:11 pm

“But who am I to know….”

how irresponsible can you be, advocating that people disregard medical advice? Better yet, anonymously! Get off the internet before you kill someone.

And by the way, you’re wrong. Not everyone in CH has it or has had it, and just because they were exposed and didn’t get it the first or second time, doesn’t mean they can’t get it when they are exposed a third, fourth, or fifth time.

My two cents
Reply to  You said it...
March 28, 2020 10:11 pm

He is not killing anyone by being on the internet. Society needs to continue. Hatzalah has shown that the rate of infection has significantly gone down

too much quarantine vs not enough
Reply to  Nonsense!!
March 28, 2020 9:17 pm

yes too much quarantine means no economy which means no money for food, medical, internet, etc. But if you’re not contributing to the economy by going out then what are you doing hanging around?

Well said!!
March 28, 2020 1:59 pm

Thank you!!!

School Lunch
March 28, 2020 7:28 pm

Is an amazing idea
But is there any way to have it dropped off at homes/ buildingsto avoid extra contact ?

Please be careful of those in buildings
March 28, 2020 8:19 pm

There are multiple families in my building who have been stricken with Coronavirus. One is Bh, on the mend! However, one has a father hospitalized. I am still seeing their older children outside. Aka not quarantined. Their next door neighbors are letting their children run free, without gloves, disinfectant spray, not supervision. It’s NOT easy to keep young children quarantined! It’s very hard! I get it! But please realize you put other families at risk in a building, not only your own!

Thank you SO much for clarifying and emphasizing!
March 28, 2020 9:08 pm

The bottom line is that people are going to do what they want to do, r”l. I’ve been seeing what the author laments all week. I am met with shrugged shoulders and rationalizations when I talk about it with friends, as if I’m some kind of stickler or something! It makes me sad and worried, but this is a matter we cannot control; we can only educate people and daven that they take it to heart. Maybe these lax families do not know anyone personally who is in the hospital, desperately fighting for their lives, so the whole “stay home”… Read more »

Neighbors
Reply to  Thank you SO much for clarifying and emphasizing!
March 28, 2020 10:06 pm

They shrugged me off…. live a few feet width from a door where the family has. Kids with hand sanitizer. Touching everything as they go out. Just so crazy

mommies stuck indoor 5 kids
March 28, 2020 9:36 pm

have rachamos mother are stuck with 8 kids at home
can someone in the community organize toys and games delivered families with more than 3 kids under AGE OFF 5
We also need fruit and veg delivered bc it boost immune system
PLEASE PLEASE IF YOU ARE IN POSITION HELP PLEASE DO

Groceries
Reply to  mommies stuck indoor 5 kids
March 28, 2020 10:09 pm

They all deliver! I am going crazy with my young kids! Crazy! I just get everything delivered, including arts and crafts!

unaddressed
March 28, 2020 9:53 pm

thanks for the post and your assistance. there’s an unaddressed issue – someone older who lives in a home with others, or even anyone who lives with others. how does staying together stop the spread? if one gets it all will get it. shouldn’t all people over 60 who haven’t yet been exposed and haven’t gotten it, be housed somewhere where all haven’t been exposed and haven’t gotten it? Of course, the ideal is not always possible, and I don’t have and cannot provide the solution. Just pointing out a frustrating component of this challenge, and the seeming counter-proctiveness of… Read more »

Beautifully written
March 28, 2020 10:08 pm

So positive. Thank you

No cleaning lady???
March 28, 2020 10:18 pm

Is this your own opinion or are the doctors saying no cleaning lady?

No cleaning lady???
March 28, 2020 10:26 pm

Did doctors say this?

be creative
March 28, 2020 11:10 pm

whats the question about cleaning ladies, NO ONE should be coming into your house from the outside. How do you know what they are bringing in?? Having an aid for an older person, be careful you have no choice, mask and gloves all the time, the kids can learn how to clean, make it an interesting activity, deliveries to the door only, and throw away the boxes right away, stay in doors, wear gloves to pick up the mail,
Make activities with the kids, bake with them, count toothpicks, collect and make art and crafts with them, be creative

Grateful we left.
March 28, 2020 11:11 pm

No cleaning ladies should be allowed in your home. They travel on subways and endanger their lives and yours cause they need money. Pay them if you can but clean your own house. You need the exercise anyway

Older residents who need shopping help hotline
March 28, 2020 11:13 pm

212) 901-2000. Gedaliah society hotline. They have Volenteers to shop.

Gedaliah hotline -
March 29, 2020 12:10 am

Please continue to use the hotline (212-901-2000) for COVID-related questions. In recognition of the continued anxiety felt by all during this time, please call the hotline to be connected to a mental health professional. For help with errands, please email the helpline [email protected].

Re No Masks available
March 29, 2020 12:13 pm

There are instructions online as to how make your own masks if you have some basic sewing skills and all you need are some scraps of material and some elastic stretch string or even rubber bands if you have to. Its also something to do while stuck at home. STAY HOME thats what the Rebbe would have instructed !!

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