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  |  June 17, 2019

    Candlelight Vigil For… Chickens

    Anti-Kapparos activists will hold a "candlelight vigil" in Boro Park to express sympathy for chickens used for Jewish tradition. Full Story

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    Candlelight?
    Guest
    Candlelight?

    That won’t do it, bring a grill!

    Yizkor for chickens?
    Guest
    Yizkor for chickens?

    maybe they should try to care more about human life than something that is meant to be for dinner

    😂😂😂
    Guest
    😂😂😂

    That’s ridiculous. When you treat animals that way you end up degrading human beings or worse, for the sake of the animal… Upside down values

    tell them to please first go to all the live chicken poultries in the city
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    tell them to please first go to all the live chicken poultries in the city

    and even better they should go help the humans in NYC who would love an extra volunteering hand
    and this does not take away from being careful with tzar baalei chaim
    but HAshem decides the chain of his creations
    according to these people we should maybe never have had karbonos either
    There is a Hashem who decides things, not our human logic

    If only
    Guest
    If only

    They had such respect for human beings!

    re 4
    Guest
    re 4

    all shchita and bris mila will be next. They have to go after this first

    no shchita means
    Guest
    no shchita means

    No sefer Torah, no mezuza, no tefilin. Imagine Yiddishkeit without them. That is what they really want

    Chilel Hashem
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    Chilel Hashem

    Doing Kapparos can be done with much more respect! They treat the chickens inhumane and it makes people think religious Jews are crazy!

    Mosquitos
    Guest
    Mosquitos

    I hold a vigil every night for the millions of mosquitos being killed every single day across the world. I can’t understand why they’re standing up for a few chickens. There’s a mosquito genocide going on and nobody says a word.

    None of these protesters would lift a finger to help a human
    Guest
    None of these protesters would lift a finger to help a human

    being. Their purpose is to go against Hashem and his laws. Corrupt individuals with resemblance to Nazi regulations (may their name be erased)!

    Treat the chickens more humanely...
    Guest
    Treat the chickens more humanely...

    Jews are held to a higher standard; always being watched!

    what is the truth
    Guest
    what is the truth

    do chickens get thrown away in the garbage or not?

    To #8
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    To #8

    It is true they can treat the chickens better than they do currently, also maybe people should think about holding the chicken like the Rebbe did. However, you can’t change your customs to make the non-Jews think we are normal and like them, it didn’t help when the German Jews abandoned their religious practices to fit into German secular society, they were carted off to camps with the rest of them. Did you ever listen to Country Yossi’s song about the ridiculous things Jews do, it’s just what we do and how we are, besides for the fact you can… Read more »

    doubt they are going after sefer torah, mezuza etc
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    doubt they are going after sefer torah, mezuza etc

    These are the same people that film in slaughterhouses, promote veganism, etc. Its not about Yiddishkeit (of course those antisemites exist!), its about cruety to animals. Let’s be a light onto the nations and do Kapparos with respect.

    זובחי אדם עגלים ישקון
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    זובחי אדם עגלים ישקון

    “Those who sacrifice people kiss calves.” Don’t think for a moment that they’re doing this out of a sense of morality; it’s simply hatred of humanity, and of Judaism in particular.

    To #14
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    To #14

    According to veganism Sifrei Torah, Tefillin, and Mezuzos are also not allowed, so how is this not against them as well? If there is no shechitah then there can’t be any of the above tashmishei kedushah either. And if you think it’s not about Yiddishkeit then where are all these people during the end of Ramadan when many more animals are slaughtered in the streets?

    Clarification?
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    Clarification?

    I do not support these people. However, I am curious about the accusation that many of the kappores chickens are not actually going to poor people. Is this true? I do kappores on chickens even though I’d rather do it on money but I am comforted in knowing that the chickens ultimately go to feed poor people. Can someone clarify if, in fact, few of the chickens actually get eaten? Thanks.

    why do you ?
    Guest
    why do you ?

    give them free publicity , no one would even know they came

    Nothing better to do...
    Guest
    Nothing better to do...

    Seriously!!! These people have no lives!!

    I suggest a compromise :
    Guest
    I suggest a compromise :

    That a video be created that instructs people on the holding of the chicken (with two hands) and also big posters and video monitors be placed at the kapporos areas so people can use both hands, and how to treat the birds with care and avoid any suffering. These videos should play in those areas in a loop and only those who have viewed it can buy chickens and do the kapporos. If the birds are dying on our behalf at the very least be sensitive to their suffering. I always use both hands never swing on the wings with… Read more »

    14 it may be hard to believe but
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    14 it may be hard to believe but

    Torah scrolls come from animals that were slaughtered. Vegetarianism can do away with the entire Torah!

    When is the Turkey Vigil
    Guest
    When is the Turkey Vigil

    Please keep us posted for the Thanksgiving Turkey Vigil, although I live overseas, I’d definitely fly in for it!

    To # 15
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    To # 15

    You got your finger on the button!!

    Keep it clean
    Guest
    Keep it clean

    In all the truth it would only be right thing to do to treat chickens as “humanly” as possible, to cause least harm, to keep streets clean, and to make sure that chickens do go to poor.
    Otherwise these so called “protestors” are for sure just against Jews, against us, against our freedom.

    #16 and 21
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    #16 and 21

    Good points. I stand corrected, I had forgotten that.
    and to #20…that sounds like a good compromise

    Kapparos
    Guest
    Kapparos

    When is the Kapparos in Crown Heights?

    To #20
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    To #20

    A video is a great idea! I’m sure a lot of people support the idea of holding and treating the chickens properly but just don’t know how. (I once tried, and the chicken got away!) Maybe someone who has yedios in these things can post a video and a list of clear guidelines on COL?

    Who cares about them
    Guest
    Who cares about them

    They are a bunch of boring people

    To # 9
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    To # 9

    You’re correct and also wholesale slaughter of cockroaches, rodents, etc. with no regard as to how. These ‘compassionate’ individuals should be doing perpetual vigils to no end!

    Really funny
    Guest
    Really funny

    This is hysterical

    Kadish?🐓
    Guest
    Kadish?🐓

    While your doing yizkor might as well do the whole thing

    Address?
    Guest
    Address?

    Which train do I take?

    my main concern
    Guest
    my main concern

    I want all these chickens to end up as kosher meat that poor people can actually eat. Wasted treif chickens don’t help anyone

    Just to shed some light
    Guest
    Just to shed some light

    There are some that are asking about the meat going to the poor. The Alter Rebbe in shulchan aruch writes that besides doing kapporos there’s also a custom to shecht it and give it to the poor, which means that it’s not necessarily a part of the original kapporos! Not only that, but he actually writes that it’s better to give the money for the chicken to the poor person, but not the actual chicken (because it’s embarrassing for the poor person to accept it). I have to admit that I’m not sure if we’re supposed to eat it or… Read more »

    Glad to hear it
    Guest
    Glad to hear it

    Money is a perfectly acceptable halahkic alternative to using chickens. This is not an attack on the practice of Kapparot.

    Bubby
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    Bubby

    I honestly believe animal activists care more for animals than they do for people.

    pro humans?
    Guest
    pro humans?

    These are the same people pro choice/….are chickens more important than human life??

    For # 37
    Guest
    For # 37

    You got that exactly 100% correct!

    #35, money is NOT acceptable
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    #35, money is NOT acceptable

    There is NO SOURCE for using money. The whole point of kaporos is the exchange of a life for a life, so how can that happen with money? What do you do, burn the money?! Kaporos is NOT about tzedokoh. It is about the shechitoh and nothing else. Tzedokoh is something that happens afterwards. You have a dead chicken, what should you do with it? The minhog is either to give it to the poor, or to exchange it with money and give that to the poor. But that has nothing to do with the kaporoh, which is already over.… Read more »

    There is one important point
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    There is one important point

    Usually I see the people in Crown Heights who handle the chickens know what they’re doing, but this year I was in a different place and I was shocked at how they were being handled. Not by the people who came to use them, but by the person taking them out of the cage and handing them to people. I saw him holding chickens by one leg while they were flapping their wings, I saw him holding chickens by one wing while they were flapping the other, and I was afraid they could become treif, chas vesholom. If a chicken… Read more »

    Bubby of course you are right
    Guest
    Bubby of course you are right

    and “child labor”? what the heck…

    Absolutely
    Guest
    Absolutely

    that is 100 percent true. The way they handle these chickens in crown heights is an absolute chilul Hashem to such a high degree. all that said, I don’t understand why doing Yizkor helps. at all.

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