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Boteach – Back at the Kinus

Author and TV celebrity Rabbi Shmuley Boteach attended the Kinus Hashluchim Banquet for the first time in 16 years. He writes to COLlive how it feels to be back. Full Story

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# 63
November 14, 2010 12:10 pm

hit the nail on the head! in six short paragraphs he eloquently
describes the man that is shmuly boteach. as soon as boteach writes in the second paragraph “the very person” etc. I knew without a doubt where he was coming from and where he was going.

so what else is new?

Shmuely's "marital life" books and halachah
November 13, 2010 8:35 pm

To 65:

Your statement “much of it contrary to halachah” is simply not true.

I have not ready any of said books, but I have it on good authority from some very big names in Lubavitch and outside of Lubavitch that “there is nothing in his [“marital life”] books that is against halachah.” Shmuely’s stance on “marriage redefinition” is another story–I’m not referring to that–but even that can be condemned and rejected without hatred and vitriol.

Mendy Hecht
November 13, 2010 8:29 pm

Where is our Lubavitcher Ahavas Yisroel when we need it most? Does Ahavas Yisroel only apply to those who mark in lockstep with our thinking? Shmuely, Matisyahu and all those Lubavitchers who left Lubavitch are prime examples of where tolerance and seeing the positive, not the negative, begins, not ends. To 45, use your name next time. Shmuely knows exactly what he’s saying and doing, and I think we can separate the opinions, Torah-contrary though they may be, from the persons. Remember that the Rebbe had Reform rabbis who actively encouraged intermarriage at his farbrengens. If that’s good enough for… Read more »

shame
November 13, 2010 11:36 am

its apretty big shame that everyone outside is accepted and one of ours is cursed out lets start understanding our diffrences

oy vay
November 11, 2010 11:06 pm

help……….Where’s Moshiach?!?!
He Can settle this whole geshichte once and for all!!

to 65
November 10, 2010 6:55 pm

ur a good writer

45 here again
November 10, 2010 5:51 pm

He has more pressing matters but was happy to post his JPost article on COL and to draw others attention it being posted on COL. I can assure you he is reading the comments as well. It’s just that he doesn’t speak the truth and people like you get floored by the stardust of quasi celebrities. For the record, and COL deleted this from the earlier remarks because of the wording I used, but he published some pretty explicit material as well – which was the makeh bipatish as far as Chabad UK was concerned. Never in the history of… Read more »

to 45
November 10, 2010 10:53 am

45: its gnaw, not knaw. and im pretty sure Rabbi Shmully has more pressing matters to deal with than your petty four paragraph comments.

Boteach complimenting Chabad?!
November 10, 2010 6:18 am

Boteach begins his propaganda ridden article, slightly hinting to his true intensions behind it all : “Tonight I attended the international Chabad emissary conference – the Kinus Hashluchim HaOlami – for the first time in sixteen years. When I was the Rebbe’s emissary at Oxford University I came annually. But with my split from Chabad over my inclusion of non-Jewish students at Oxford, I stopped.”He continues with his battle of revenge:”A lot has changed in that time. The man responsible for my firing from Chabad was himself fired.” Boteach then continues his article by praising Chabad and it’s worldwide Shluchim… Read more »

boteach versus trimmed beared lubavitcher
November 10, 2010 3:31 am

at least boteach has a full beard unlike other supposed lubavitch celebrities who are on col with trimmed beards and dont represent the way a chossid should look

45 get a life
November 10, 2010 2:14 am

45: the only reason that you wont reveal yourself is because you know that if Shmully was to read this he could destroy you with one line. you sound jealous and wounded and bitter. its quite sad that you took all this time to comment on Shmully.

Shlucha
November 9, 2010 7:50 pm

I am a Shlucha, also of generations long Chabad roots, and like 54, I am also disgusted by Mr. 45. His comments are repulsive. End of story. The Lashan Harah is disgusting, the pompousness and arrogance are disgraceful…”Not under my watch?” Your watch? Who are you? This not what I learned and learn from the Rebbe, not from my parents, not from my teachers, not from my mashpiim. Not from anyone who is a chosid in the true sense of the word. In the name of everything that I learned and I strive to be, I protest this. It is… Read more »

who are we?
November 9, 2010 7:44 pm

Who are we to decide whether or not Shmully is a chossid?

welcome home
November 9, 2010 6:00 pm

kissed your family

YOSEL G
November 9, 2010 5:57 pm

#45 should look in the mirror first with both eyes. This week we read about Yaakov going to Cha’ro’na there was a seecha about the wording. Where ever SB went he took a part of Lubavitch with him just like Yaakov. Now should be a good time for Chabad to harness what SB learned while he was out there and use it to the fullest! We are CHABAD and we except everyone,,,, RIGHT?
I hope the top people are working on it already, if not put more men on the job!!!!!

To 45
November 9, 2010 4:39 pm

I agree with 49. Anonymous online character assassination is far from honorable, however you attempt to justify it to yourself or those of similar cowardly inclination who happily join in the chorus. If you have something constructive to say and believe this to be an appropriate venue, then post your name and stand behind your words. Otherwise this would seem to be the purest of lashon hara. Is that what Chabad is about?

AM YISROEL CHAI
November 9, 2010 4:23 pm

so yes we may have all different opinions about boteach..maybe he is starting to feel reconnected with Chabad..or maybe not, could be he is only saying these things and tomorrow will say something else..HOWEVER he is a fellow Jew and we must love him! Lashon horah is against the Torah! just as we must love litvish, “anti-religious” Jews, nonpracticing Jews, etc, we must love him as well!!

To 45
November 9, 2010 4:18 pm

I dont know who you are. But, are you Lubavitch? Do YOU decide? I am a devout Lubavitch Chossid and Shliach and my family’s connection to Lubavitch goes back 7 generations to the days of Alter Rebbe. Your post is not written like someone who has inculcated Tanya, Chassidus, the Rebbe’s sichos into his blood. This is not how a Chossid talks. Feh. Who are you to decide? Who are you to besmirch like that? I dont even know Shmuely B. other from reading his articles etc, and I certainly take exception to many of the things he has said… Read more »

Shocking!
November 9, 2010 4:03 pm

I am so shocked at the Loshon hora here! It is repulsive. Who cares if you agree or don’t agree. Who are you to give judgements? Never ever judge a person without being in their shoes. I happen to think shmully is a great rabbi and this bashing is unbelievable. Lubavitch is full or putting each other down! This is not ahavas yisroel! If you don’t like what someone does then do better better yourself!! But never jugde if you are not in another persons shoes! This is basic judaism!!

I AM 45
November 9, 2010 2:04 pm

Not a coward but knowing Shmuley’s insecurities as I do, he would make me an enemy for life. I can live with it but it would knaw at his soul. Not good for him. To those at Kingston Bagel – ‘co-workers?’ I live many, many miles from there so unless your reference is to sitting there eating while you read this…

#45
November 9, 2010 1:13 pm

Well said!

The world of shluchim
November 9, 2010 12:52 pm

Your write up on the Kinus banquet is very nice and your critique on nepotism etc are fair. However I most agree with a previous post. If you truly want to get the state and feeling of the world of today’s shluchim at its essence, you need to spend the whole Kinus together with all the them, just to be there among so many shluchim, seeing their interests, their drive, joining in their conversations and concerns, the general sessions where all shluchim attend, and the entire atmosphere, then a Shabbos full of inspirational farbrangins and brotherly love unique to Chassidim,… Read more »

To #45 and COL
November 9, 2010 10:38 am

Articles like that (#45’s) should only be posted if someone is willing to stand behind it.

A plain IMPERSONAL comment like mine doesn’t need to be signed because it is not voucher for a fact but stating an opinion, and an impersonal one.

But when someone writes such things about another, albeit perhaps important information to publicize, if it is not backed up by someone, is only the work of a real coward.

Dear Rabbi Boteach
November 9, 2010 10:11 am

Dear Rabbi Boteach, Nice to see you felt comfortable and like you were home at the banquet. You write about giving our philanthropists equal and infinite value at the banquet with the implication that Chabad shouldn’t be showing its shluchim that level of attention and focus to its philanthropists at the Kinus. I would suggest to you that next year you not only attended the banquet but the main session and gathering of shluchim on Motzi Shabbos, (as well as the rest of the weekend) too, you will find – as it was this year – the most inspiring evening… Read more »

to 45
November 9, 2010 9:26 am

Well said! Your co-workers at kigston bagle shop are proud of u!

to all you haters
November 9, 2010 7:36 am

some off you sound alarmingly cultish… dont take it upon yourselves to decide who is “one of us.” Rabbi boteach has been a shaich his entire life and continues to spread the light of yiddishkeit to the darkest corners of the world. . all youre doing is spreading hatred.so stop talking about what you dont know about This man is speaking from the heart.

THE TRUTH ABOUT SMHULEY: from someone who knows
November 9, 2010 6:07 am

This is the sort of headline which when Shmuley reads his heart races a little faster. He knows someone out there is about to lay bare some home truths. It is said you could fool all of the people some of the time and Shmuley does a very good job of that everytime he revises history on his saga with Chabad. Here are the true facts: 1) “The one who fired me was himself fired.” FACT: Chabad UK put their heart and soul into Shmuley and he let them down miserably. They never wanted to see Shmuley go but he… Read more »

back?
November 9, 2010 4:35 am

he’s not “back as a shaliach” he simply came as a bala habos

36 38 39
November 9, 2010 4:31 am

Seriously?

shmuly boteach is back...
November 9, 2010 2:18 am

Shmuly, i read your column every week in the algmeiner, and your a brilliant and inspiring writer. that having been said, i have to agree with several comments on here. one i though that was important:, mentioned the fact that you speak about the Rebbe as if you were giving a lesson out of a school history book. the Rebbe is the one who sent out all the shluchim. the word “shliach” means messenger. our Rebbe is the sender. all the work that chabad is doing and will do- is us simply being messengers for the Rebbe. so no, the… Read more »

Proud of you
November 9, 2010 1:07 am

It must have been uncomfortable.

Correction.
November 9, 2010 12:09 am

The Rebbe spoke a beautiful, if not eloquent English, far from broken.

TO 38
November 8, 2010 11:30 pm

i agree with you and I respect him

Before you critisize
November 8, 2010 11:01 pm

The rebbe was about action, while everyone is sitting and complaining on how shmulley is this or that, I say respect what he has done for jewish outreach, Shmulley is well acomplished, and has given orthodox judaisim a face of respect, and a face of moderinity, and down to earth. Shmulley has done a trmendious job, while not under chabad corporate, he has done an asweome job, and please everyone reading this blog should respect Shmulley for what he has done single handedly for the Rebbe.

Moty
November 8, 2010 10:18 pm

Rabbi Shmuely has an unbelievable way of doing shlichus.
it good to have US back.

shmuley
November 8, 2010 9:43 pm

Shmuley
you are welcome back as a shliach
soem ppl care about some mistakes that you made is the past. Many ppl are making mistakes now and keep being called shluchim, others make mistakes in CH, if nt just look at politics, new Rov, rabbonims fights,etc
after we are all human beings
welcome Shmuley, you are among the top of the shluchim

Shmuly.... no one noticed you
November 8, 2010 9:40 pm

because no one cares to. just a few readers on this site really care about you and its only because they are ignorant of your past (and present) views. how sad that after all you have accomplished you have to send a letter to col letting everyone know that you are here. Dont you have a life?

Always one of us
November 8, 2010 9:39 pm

Shmuely, you never really left.

There is no such thing.

You were, are, and will always be our brother.

May you go from strength to strength in your connection in Torah, Halacha and Chassidus.

Just My Opinion...
November 8, 2010 9:28 pm

I’m glad you went BUT maybe YOU should realign youself with Chabad. Chabad does not need to change. That steadfastness is what attracted me and so many others. YOU moved. Not Chabad. Humility is still in vogue. Think on that.

Why?
November 8, 2010 9:24 pm

Why do we keep welcoming back this person that has so many times scorned the values the Rebbe espoused? Are we so forgiving and inclusive that we turn our cheek to blatant attacks to all that is holy to us? Boteach was one (I can’t think of any others) of the few individuals that was fired from Shlichus! He so smartly says that the one who fired him has now been fired. Not a month ago Boteach went national in his defense (and it was nothing other than that) of the lifestyle that is the antithesis of all that is… Read more »

well read
November 8, 2010 8:47 pm

the accolades being thrown around here,sheesh! have any of you read the things this person writes? yes we have some very huge systemic problems in lubavitch but that has nothing to do with publicly advocating things which go against the torah. honestly some of you are simply awestruck by celebrity.

shtam me and my shadow
November 8, 2010 8:31 pm

welcome back shmuley – yup like others have stated u really never left. Oh and just ignore the “expected” comments of disagreement and muser.
The one that does as such obviously and evidently needs help themselves. Its much easier to deal with life issues by commenting negatively on the internet 😉
Moish

passive aggressive
November 8, 2010 8:21 pm

shmuely- you have a tendency of manipulating the reader into thinking you are speaking the truth, the positive, the accepted word. in reality, you’re a negative dude with a major ego problem. last i checked, being a chabad chossid was first and foremost being mevutal to the rebbe, chassidus, hashem.

confused
November 8, 2010 8:18 pm

He is such a confusing man…

Why the kefuffel?
November 8, 2010 8:11 pm

So Shmuly came to the kinus, and so did another 4500 people. But was he there as the Rebbe’s shliach? if so, who reinstated him?
He is very talented and most of the things he does is wonderful. But, until he is officially accepted and reinstated as a shaliach, he can’t claim to do anything in the name of the Rebbe nor Chabad. And nor should he!

from 25!!! whoops
November 8, 2010 8:04 pm

sorry i meant to say to number 12!! NOT 22

to number 22
November 8, 2010 8:01 pm

sad but i see what you’re saying..i hope it isn’t true 🙁

Get over it ...
November 8, 2010 7:47 pm

“The man responsible for my firing from Chabad was himself fired”. That is not for you to decide and write! You should ask Mechila in my opnion…

We are all Judiasm
November 8, 2010 7:44 pm

It can be uncomfortable returning to your roots, when your perception is that you left on uneasy terms. I’m happy you feel confident enough in the choices you’ve made for yourself to not feel self conscious around the people who may have made you think your choices weren’t the best path. I have to object to your statement that Chabad is Judaism. You have just returned fro a trip to spain and Prague and spent your yom tov in Israel. ( I follow you on twitter). I’m sure you saw and experienced the colorful spectrum that is Judaism. To say… Read more »

Y Oliver
November 8, 2010 7:23 pm

On countless occasions Boteach has distorted and misrepresented basic beliefs and values of Judaism, never mind the Rebbe’s teachings. He deserves to be ousted.

To be completly re-accepted he will have to drop the constructive criticism
November 8, 2010 7:19 pm

Shmuley, You’ve been around long enough to know this: as hard as it may be to accept some of your more ‘progressive’ ideas, it is nearly impossible to accept your constructive criticism. Nepotism – are you kidding? The movement continues to head towards a nepotism guarentees a shlichus post world. entropenaural – the movement you met in the 70s no longer promotes those spirits you encountered. Today those lichatchilah aribeniks either end up getting thrown out or are not receiving a position in the first place. Your first years salary and knowing how to use PowePoint goes further today than… Read more »

Welcome Back !
November 8, 2010 7:10 pm

your a legend !

Elki
November 8, 2010 7:09 pm

Dear Shmuley, As always you write eloquently, even poetically. Your description of coming home is moving as is your depiction of the magnificent kinnus, which I saw right here on COL. Like you, I, too agree that the future of Judaism was in that large last night. Shmuley, what was the purpose of including these words, “Indeed, what was most missing from the gathering tonight was the Rebbe’s tangible presence. Chabad was never about money. Indeed, for me it was a refuge from modernity’s corrosive materialism. But a global movement with an enormous budget must honor the heroic philanthropists who… Read more »

wandering jew
November 8, 2010 5:46 pm

Glad you went back. I enjoyed reading your article. G-d bless you Rabbi.

Elegant and Relevant
November 8, 2010 5:42 pm

One of Chabad’s most important voices today. Certainly one of the most erudite and articulate. Glad you feel welcome.

Shluchim
November 8, 2010 5:40 pm

wow how inspirational….shluchim come to be inspired and people become inspired just by their presence. What a Kiddush Lubavitch

emes
November 8, 2010 5:14 pm

He speaks the truth here.

why not key note speach?
November 8, 2010 4:53 pm

If Alan Dershowitz was allowed, why not Shmuelly Boteach? As unappealing as that might be, it certainly can be no worse than Mr. Dershowitz!!!

Eventually all roads lead back to Chabad 770
November 8, 2010 4:49 pm

What’dy tell yu eh?? Even a superstar like Boteach will return to his simple lubavitcher roots. That’s the spirit ol boy

What was he doing there
November 8, 2010 4:48 pm

This mans opinions about almost everything negate Chabad and halocho for example his last work of art (some orthodox Jews hold that ……..is not allowed)etc…
what is he doing by the Cinus ?oh well maybe this is what corparet chabad really is all about after all

Welcome back?
November 8, 2010 4:44 pm

He was only “welcomed” to the Kinnus because he is friends with a big donor. He was welcome there not as a Shliach but as a Jew like every other Jew should be

shmuley
November 8, 2010 4:42 pm

you are a great guy
you can get quickly to the fullfillment of the Rebbes; bracha with Chabad
welcome back!

sara
November 8, 2010 4:42 pm

wow v. inspiring

I enjoyed reading this
November 8, 2010 4:38 pm

Well written and inspiring. The only thing I did not like in this article is how you mentioned the Rebbe as somone who created the Chabad movement but now is in the past. Even after Gimmul Tamuz the Rebbe keeps us going, after all the power of the shliach is the sender.

when i grow hair on the palms of my hand
November 8, 2010 4:25 pm

he will deliver the keynote speech

Shmuley Boteach
November 8, 2010 4:18 pm

As usual, well said. He should deliver the keynote speech next year!

But it must be done in a manner that never compromises the Rebbe’s defining characteristic of treating paupers and billionaires as being of equal and infinite value.
November 8, 2010 4:13 pm

Shmully you are welcome back… you don’t need to make a fuss about it or find excuses… the whole left and came back is only in the perception, you never really left, you just did something things that made it hard (or maybe more than hard) to operate and assoicate with…

The Rebbe did honor those who donated to machne yisroel… ye they were equal etc. but he did make time for those who doanted and were leading in that area…

It happens to the best of us......
November 8, 2010 4:12 pm

b’h
We tend to seek different pastures, head for the greater outdoors only to come back and see the greatness was right in front of us, there was no need to leave to begin with.

what was the date of this? exact qoute?
November 8, 2010 4:08 pm

” In a private audience the Rebbe told me I was born for great things”

THIS GUY
November 8, 2010 4:06 pm

Writes unbelievably well. grammar top notch.
that goes without saying the toichen is outstanding.
thank you

Welcome home
November 8, 2010 3:52 pm

Welcome home son!! Good to see you again>

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