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    Bochurim Are People Too

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    we love bochurim
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    we love bochurim

    bochurim are the best in every occasion

    Sorry you have such a perception
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    Sorry you have such a perception
    Put your name on it
    Guest
    Put your name on it

    Seriously

    Well said
    Guest
    Well said

    You’re not asking for a full chasuneh meal. But bochrim need food to fuel the simcha. Yes they are doing a mitzvah. And just like you pay for a good mezuzah, esrog, matzah, you should be happy to pay for a decent meal for the bochrim and girls who enhanced the joy at your Simcha.

    right right right !!!!!!
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    right right right !!!!!!

    a 51 years old (like) bochur

    i totally agree
    Guest
    i totally agree

    but not everyone treats bochurim badly… for instance when my mother asked the bochurim to come dance at the wedding she made sure that there was an open bar and a sushi bar for them so they wouldnt be hungry and we always invited the bochurim over for a shabbas meal so that once a week there would be fresh healthy food in their bodies… not all are treated badly

    johnny appleseed
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    johnny appleseed

    Same with girls. And especially older singles. Would you ask your 26 yr old cousin to run your carnival booth like you would ask a teenager? No, because she’s married. And yet you’d ask your 26 yr old single friend. It’s degrading. Please stop.

    Well said
    Guest
    Well said

    I’m not a bochur but I definitely agree

    so true!
    Guest
    so true!

    Tears are flowing from my eyes. This is so sad! How many people have to suffer before we make real change?

    WELL SAID!!!!!
    Guest
    WELL SAID!!!!!

    This a big issue in the lubavtch communities that have yeshivos. Although very few actually make a conscious effort to treat bochurim with the utmost respect.

    Huh?
    Guest
    Huh?

    Nobody that I know treats Bochurim in the manner you have described. I was treated nicely as a Bochur, and treat Bochrim nicely as a “Balebos”.

    You need to pen this letter to the Shliach who treated you this way. This is not a systematic problem and you should not be carpet-accusing all people.

    A shaliach in new jersey
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    A shaliach in new jersey

    No they are not!

    Agreed!!
    Guest
    Agreed!!

    And why is that when people try make shidduchim they think “bochrim”?
    This world has gone crazy!

    my experience
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    my experience

    So right. Some people just seem to forget.

    Author
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    Author

    I feel ur pain, during my years in yeshiva I felt like an object being shipped across the country. Bochurim are definitely abused

    Why can't buchrim just be buchrim and stop complaining
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    Why can't buchrim just be buchrim and stop complaining
    You have a point, but......
    Guest
    You have a point, but......

    …..tuck your shirt in, and act like a mench, treat people with respect, talk nicely. (Don’t get me wrong, you do great and holy work, but self respect is a must)

    Agreed!
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    Agreed!

    Thank you so much for speaking up on behalf of us all. We are not trash and should not be treated that way. I salute you for taking the necessary initiative in spreading the word worldwide. May Hashem bless you! LChaim!

    If they're good enough to invite they're certainly good enough to feed!
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    If they're good enough to invite they're certainly good enough to feed!

    This is another in the mystery of the mivtzah ahavas yisrel: love the follow yid that is on a lower level than you perceive yourself but don’t worry about the person next door or the elder man or his wife on your block. When we’re out on mivtzoim we shine, but what about REAL LIFE??

    Or doesn’t this count as real life??

    Another bochur
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    Another bochur

    That’s very unusual, most decent people treat me normally there are a few people that don’t care about anyone else whoever they are..

    Bochurim lives matter!
    Guest
    Bochurim lives matter!

    Lol love the article 🙂

    not sure what happened here
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    not sure what happened here

    pls be specific

    A Bochur
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    A Bochur

    Take it easy friend. Seriously. I understand victim-status is now treasured in America, but no, we bochurim are not a victim class.

    I'm a bochur and I don't feel ths way
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    I'm a bochur and I don't feel ths way

    I am happy to help shluchim and yidden all over
    I like being the rebbes clown its a zchus and if you don agree then ur a balabos.

    state of lubavitch today
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    state of lubavitch today

    Is this what the rebbe wanted from bochurim???

    Way to go!
    Guest
    Way to go!

    Well said! Bocherim are people also!

    so true
    Guest
    so true

    When I was a bochur I felt the same way .I’m glad someone spoke up. Thank you.

    Hashgacha pratis:)
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    Hashgacha pratis:)

    Whoa hashgacha pratis! Check out today’s Chitas – Rashi on passuk 7 on word ‘Bachur’ signifying ‘chosen’ and specially selected
    We know how much the Rebbe loved and cherished his bachurim …

    Wow!!
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    Wow!!

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    the rebbe children
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    the rebbe children

    What happened to recognizing that bochurim were the center of the Rebbe life the farbrengens maamorim were mostly speaking with bochurim!

    Yossel
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    Yossel

    To the writer

    Gei Fifen

    If you know what that means.

    Michael
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    Michael

    Indeed very true. I want to reply in the most respectful way possible, much on my mind here, but first le me say, in general yes, if you request someone either to your chabad house home or what not, be a Mentch about it, they aren’t your puppies where you wind them up, and wallah there ya go. On the other hand, I must speak a moment personally. to introduce myself, I am a family man, home wife children, I teach them the Derech of Chabad, the Rebbe and in general Shulchan Aruch. my children are respectful polite clean honest… Read more »

    Nice
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    Nice

    Bochurim are the best

    so sorry to agre..but ti si the truth
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    so sorry to agre..but ti si the truth

    there are soemtimes horro stories of the way we are treated, and used to fill a room for all the wrong reasons
    but to say it out loud hurts more then when it happens at the wedding or event
    this guy had the integrity to speak out so i want to support his words
    the depth of what we learn is not shown in real life when these episodes happen
    it is almost hepach to what is talked and taught in side
    kindness generousity

    On the money
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    On the money

    Yup.

    Either do it dont
    Guest
    Either do it dont

    Dont complain about not being treated well. Dont go in the first place!
    Once you are there you obviously deserve respect. But dont make as if you have to go anywhere.

    To the author
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    To the author

    I really feel for you. The trial and tribulations bochurim go through being hauled in for a minyan, being mesameach choson V’kalah without being fed, being a clown and sweating like crazy. Oh yeah. And tutoring your kids twice a week for just $20 an hour! What is this!? Are bochurim not human. This makes our life impossible!
    I’m a bochur and I approve of this message

    100%
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    100%

    There are many balei batim and shluchim that hold the buchurim that come to them in the highest regard. Always making sure they are fully taken care of. Unfortunately this is not the case by everyone. It is a bit unfair to generalize and throw everyone under the bus but…. Your article does have truth by some people and the article should be directed only to them.

    Get over yourself
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    Get over yourself

    We were all ‘bochurim’ once upon a time, bochurim get treated just fine at simchas – stop whining.

    A bochur
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    A bochur

    While its true that we should be treated better but I’m sorry to say that it seems that their most be something else bothering you and you are using this as a scapegoat. This is just my feeling and you are the only one who knows the truth I would suggest you speak to your mashpia.

    PS my intention is not to be bashful but to be helpful I’m sorry if it came across wrong.

    sad to see this
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    sad to see this

    the bochurim are the key element in the chayus that is left in chabad..i will forever be grateful for the many years my sons benefited from their kindness and programs from camp to shlichus in scchools and bh my sons are now giving back in the same way!! truly amazing!.treat them respectfully!

    Bochurim Dancers
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    Bochurim Dancers

    Yes, at times Bochurim are needed to come dance at weddings, However, lots of times they’re not wanted! lots of times there’s very nice dancing going on with everyone involved, and then suddenly… a big group of Bochurim come running in, straight to the center, dancing really quick, wild, and just take over the place. Everyone else gets pushed aside, they can’t keep up and the people that were invited and asked to be part of the Simcha are taking the back seat while you have very Lebedike bochurim dancing who just ruined the real Simcha. A Lebidike wedding doesn’t… Read more »

    To Hanhala members
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    To Hanhala members

    U guys can also learn from this, buchorim are also human, buchorim in yeshivos need proper heating during winter just like any other human! buchorim in yeshivos need proper air conditioning in the summer just like any other human! buchorim in yeshivos need proper meals not expired donations just like amy other human!
    Hanhala, when u take buchorim under ur responsibility treat them as you’d like to be treated!!!

    the author is right
    Guest
    the author is right

    Love the article!

    A morher
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    A morher

    Yes yes and true most of baalabatlm are very selfish and ighnore completly the need of feeding there bochurim.
    They are people. They are humain they are the one who run the shlichus startong at young age. They dont leave at home anymore so the list we can do is to give theme some food.

    Starts from yeshiva
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    Starts from yeshiva

    Bocherim are being abused in yeshiva . Waking up at 6am ,and finish the day at 10pm. Each kid is just a number. The system treats the kids like trash. The way they speak to the bocherim is through screaming and threats. Its like boot camp. A good 30 percent of them dropped out and had enough. Today they are either not frum or very modern. Exact the opposite of what a yeshiva is for ,and tgey are to blame . The kid cant function and falling tests because of sleep deprived. When he gets home the parents punish him.… Read more »

    To 43
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    To 43

    I hear you all the way! As a bochur in yeshiva, I couldn’t stand being fed canned peaches that expired in 1998 in 2012 (I kid u not) the brocha we made was meshane habriyos :). Now I’m a cook in a yeshiva making sure no bochurim get treated the way I did. Hopefully at least one hanhalah member of any yeshiva will see this and act on it.

    Nancy Reagan says just say NO
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    Nancy Reagan says just say NO

    Ever heard of the word NO?? No one can force you to do something you do not want to do! Having been a בחור myself, I respectfully submit that you are coming at this from the wrong angle. בחורים have youth, stamina, vigour, enthusiasm, vision, initiative and strength! Old fogies have much less of the above! בחורים should pride themselves that they are the ones that can get things done, while the older crowd has to depend on them. However, ultimately, you can always say NO to something that you don’t want to do. I am certain that no one… Read more »

    to 31
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    to 31

    Yes I do know what it means.
    It means you do not know how to care, or simply choose not to.
    From davening shacharis in 770 when I come there, to dancing off every fiber at weddings, I’ve almost never escaped such comments. But I will now.
    If you are a Bochur, #31, you should understand.
    Gei Fifen? I’d like to hear the Rebbe say it.

    you should all be ashamed of yourselves.
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    you should all be ashamed of yourselves.

    Firstly, #16 YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!!! Secondly, if you think that bochurim are making this up here is a real life example: If balabatim are requested to come to a shiva house because there are no bochurim available, they make sure that the refreshments are top notch. But if bochurim are available, they seem to think “why should we spend money on bochurim” and they get cookies and juice. Obviously there are exceptions but you get my point. For some reason bochurim are considered a lower standard of person than balabatim. Its time people start treating bochurim like proper humans… Read more »

    Yeshiva
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    Yeshiva

    This article doesn’t make sense.when I was a
    Bachur 35 years ago it was the yeshiva that treated
    Bachurim like dirt begashmies by putting them in
    Apartments that most people wouldn’t put their
    Dogs and the same the food. But about going to a
    Wedding or a Chabad house or a minyan
    It’s a bachurs choice if he feels that he is not appreciated
    He just doesn’t have to go

    Agreed
    Guest
    Agreed

    Readers, do not get caught up in the EXAMPLE the writer brought from Chasunos. The writer is highlighting a general attitude which is prevalent in our communities towards bocherim. them being a fill-in for all gaps, and Mr Fix-its for all damages.

    to #16
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    to #16

    what u said is exactly the the authers point!

    Whats your problem?
    Guest
    Whats your problem?

    I don’t understand, the bochurim that are treated like trash, treat themselves like trash. Does bochurim who have self-respect dress like a mentch, greet others like a mentch, say ‘hello’, ‘good morning’, ‘goodbey’ etc… they are indeed treated totally normal. I was a bochur just a bit ago and so were all my friends bochurim, it’s the first time I have heard that sort of complaint…

    It is possible that the author has an ego problem or had bad luck during his bochur life.

    A Former Bochur
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    A Former Bochur

    If you don’t like the program then just don’t sign up. If you don’t enjoy dancing at a simcha then don’t torture yourself. If you detest being a clown without decent wages then you are probably not a decent clown anyway. But now that you mention it, it would be nice if your VOLUNTEER work was at least appreciated. Some Shluchim show appreciation, some don’t. But as a whole this is a legitimate complaint. To those who say that less than 50% of shluchim abuse bochurim, please remember that 40% of 5000 is 2000, so that is a lot of… Read more »

    I am a bochur
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    I am a bochur

    I totally disagree with this article we should realise it is a privilege to help shluchim a privilege to do the rebbes shlichus true we are not asking to be abused and treated discussing but to sit and write and start complaining this dose not sound like a bochur this is not how a bochur 15 years ago would sound and it should not be like this today either I’m sorry for judging but the one that wrote this is probably not the most involved bochur he probably feels like a teenager getting upset this is not the way a… Read more »

    Agree.....but disagree
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    Agree.....but disagree

    I was by a Shliach this past Purim in bucks county pa. And over there they treated is very nicely before and during the event. Not only that but when we went back to yeshiva.they pay for us to have a full meal at a local restaurant although I do agree in general that this is an issue that should be brought to the public it is the bad that sticks out and there are many many that don’t treat like this but in general this is an issue

    girls too make/break simchas
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    girls too make/break simchas

    I leave weddings when the high school busses in the girls who now monopolize the dancing, the kallah and especially crowd out chossen’s family. They are not eidel, not tznius, etc.
    At our wedding tables with platters of chicken and fruit were put out for bochurim and girls, and putchets of water.
    Yes, shluchim get free labor, but our kids get to see the world in exchange.
    Shluchim have reputations that are well publicized, if they are easy going, caring, and responsible. Dont volunteer to work for the others!

    I can definitely relate
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    I can definitely relate

    This is been on my mind for years.. I’ve hated the term “Bochur” or “The Bochurim”, I don’t know why, to me it always just felt like a low-class status from the outside yeshivah view, and a robot from within! To SOME shluchim and parents, it’s always the “oh they’re “Bochurim” they dont need much, or they’ll survive with whatever” kind of mentality, kind of like a fish in a dull fishbowl with paper looking food. They think we’re here to just sing & dance, engage others, shlep stuff, etc. Because, well, that’s what Bochurim do… (To others, though, I… Read more »

    Shluchim
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    Shluchim

    We should compile a list of all the shluchim who are known User/Abusers of Bochurim so they can be warned before they go work for them/ help the out.

    well
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    well

    we ask you to tutor because you’ve been through the system our sons are going through and your smart enough to help them.

    Crown Heights mom
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    Crown Heights mom

    I have bochurim over at my house for Shabbos meals on a regular basis. They are polite and I think that I treat them very nicely. I agree with number 42 who says the bochurim take over th dancing at weddings and tend to push the family aside. I see the same happening in the girls section. Instead of politely allowing the family and older generation dance they tend to be aggressive and push their way in. You are not the most important person at the wedding. The wild dancing does not make the wedding. No one wants it or… Read more »

    Shluchim
    Guest
    Shluchim

    We should compile a list of all the shluchim who are known User/Abusers of Bochurim so they can be warned before they go work for them/ help the out.

    Im sorry
    Guest
    Im sorry

    My parents always make sure the dessert table coincides with when the bochurim come to dance. They also ask the waiters to bring out the leftover food which there is always plenty. They are by no means wealthy.
    Im sorry you feel this way. Just remember you are doing one of the greatest mitzvos.

    This is unfortunately true
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    This is unfortunately true

    When my husband was a Bochur many years ago (before Gimmel Tammuz) they were shlepped to NY from Morristown for every conceivable occasion with no arrangements made for them. Food, decent accommodations–somehow it was assumed they would find these for themselves. On top of that, they were told not to complain, because how can a Chossid give so much priority to Gashmius?? He should practice Iskafia! It was almost dehumanizing–and when he was a Bochur in Eretz Yisroel it was even worse. I am impressed and grateful that he remained committed and frum throughout all that! We now know that… Read more »

    some solid points
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    some solid points

    as a bochur i think anyone would agree that when one asks a favor from someone it doesnt matter who it might be you must treat them respectffuly that is basic humanity so shluchim and other people who asks favors from bochurim remember we are not rent a crowd etc. however bochurim im even speaking about american bochurim we tend to need a lot of favors too from the community for example meals. places to stay and we have to make sure not to abuse that. like by weddings sometimes bochurim are asked to come and sure if your asked… Read more »

    Mentchen
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    Mentchen

    A bochur who is a mentch (and is treated like one) becomes a balabos or shliach who is a mentch, and treats others, including bochrim, like mentchen. (Not to mention treating his wife and kids like mentchen, too!)

    Bochur
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    Bochur

    How about the week old cakes people drop off at yeshiva for bochurim to eat when it’s too hard to cut with a knife and the cats won’t eat it.

    Zalmy Schapiro
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    Zalmy Schapiro

    I agree 100% Bochurim are people too as well keep on smiling keep on dancing keep on going in Learning always be positive

    Rent-a-bochur
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    Rent-a-bochur

    Whenever people need a minyan randomly for whatever reason they ask bochurim to help . we’re supposed to be learning, not that helping with a minyan is bad but, we should always be the shleppers?!

    To #60
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    To #60

    What do you think the rebbe would say abt that! “Shliach shel Adam kemoisoy” its a zechus for the bochur to work for the shliach! Look what lubavitch has come to!!

    quick poll:
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    quick poll:

    The point of a wedding is to make the chosson and kallah happy. NOT YOU. Raise of hands if u were a chosson or kallah, and you wanted to keep the dancing to the pace of the “real” guests as opposed to the pace of the “unwanted” bochurim?? Didnt think so. Good night.

    to comment #63 Shluchim:
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    to comment #63 Shluchim:

    Yes, some shluchim forget their days as a bochur, and most probably as a bochur were one of those Bochurim that no shliach wanted to bring down. But lets talk about the Bochurim that I have brought down. The time that I found a bottle of booze and a breched up linen three weeks later behind the closet door, causing a permanent stain on my floor. Or the two times that after lending my car to Bochurim, I found dents (and empty 1 oz plastic bags vdal) Or the time I got a call from Bochurim that they were looking… Read more »

    I traveled and didn't pay a dime
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    I traveled and didn't pay a dime

    I as a bochur enjoyed these opportunities to go places, during yomim tovim camp etc. these people you call users/ abusers, I saw as giving me a chance to get to places I would have never on my own.

    We’re they sometimes demanding yes did we work hard yes, but I never remeber working for a Shliach at any event while he was relaxing.

    Tachlis
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    Tachlis

    a Bochurs life is awesome, and though there may be these adults that don’t consider them human, it doesn’t change the fact that they are living it up no matter what conditions. appreciate it. don’t complain.

    Shliach
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    Shliach

    You know, this article is very true and I can relate. But, sometimes as a shliach the Bochurim you expect don’t deliver. I had a bochur this past RH and he claimed he is a chazan so we agreed on a payment, but at the end he just wasn’t worth the money. Bochurim need to know their place. They can’t demand and not deliver. Now, this bochur is upset that I didn’t pay him. What does he expect?

    #73, do your research
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    #73, do your research

    You are talking about a MINORITY of young guys who, somehow, fall through the cracks and end up in yeshiva.
    You DID NOT do your homework before letting those guys into your house.
    Your post makes it sound like all bochurim are blood-suckers, drunkards and potheads when you know full well that the reality is far from that and that these are a very small minority of cases.
    You sound like you were never a bochur yourself… maybe BT who went straight to shlichus or something…
    Because if you were a bochur you wouldn’t write such a disdainful post.

    Bochurim are gold
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    Bochurim are gold

    Bochurim are the best that we have. Yes. Bochurim are at an age where they can eat A LOT. It’s a combination of age, atmosphere, daily schedule etc. The are constantly hungry and, even if not really hungry, they always appreciate food. Can’t people just look at it from that angle? And for those that were bochurim themselves in the past, use your memory… I will always GLADLY give TONS of food to bochurim. It brings a smile to my face to see a smile on theirs. And no. I do not view it as a nebach case of tzedoka,… Read more »

    Bochurim are not at the bottom
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    Bochurim are not at the bottom

    You should be glad to know that you are only second to bottom. It actually goes like this: Midaber, chai, tzomeyach, domem, bochur, unmarried person over the age of 25.

    to 75
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    to 75

    Excuse me? so I am UNWANTED?! to me if it wasn’t for the bochurim der Rebbe’s kinder, lubavitch would have vanished! all their chayos is der Rebbe lept mit unz! it’s just the parents of the chassan and kallah: please them come on a empty stomach if they make your simcha a simcha please be considerate and give them some food.

    Bubby
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    Bubby

    Do bochrim realize that they r going thru a period of INTURMSHip! Do u know why other “kiruv” groups fail so quickly? Be ause they r going by the books not “shimush”. When u see a shliach speaking to a😟 hippie, with love u learn what chassidus in practice is. A doctor gets shimush too, a potential shliach definitely!

    clearification
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    clearification

    even though you pay someone to clean your floors it doesnt mean you should specifically throw trash on the floor ie bocherim will do all these things and with joy bc it is a great zuchus but remember if bocherim dont do it then you have to pay someone to do it so thank you writer

    Jump on the bandwagon
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    Jump on the bandwagon

    Mr Bochur, Congratulations on joining mainstream society. You too have found something that offends you and you can now go online and rant about it. The current state of affairs in the world out there can be summed up as, “What are we offended about today?” Trust me when I say this, while all your points have validity, you’d be much better off if you stayed away from the internet, stuck to the books and making minyanim and bringing Simcha to weddings etc. After all, before you know it, you’ll be married and one of those selfish Balei Battim yourself.… Read more »

    Ture point!
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    Ture point!

    Thanks for posting

    to the shliach who didn't pay the chazan
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    to the shliach who didn't pay the chazan

    If you agreed on a price you should pay him. if he disapointed you don’t rehire him.

    to # 50 and #53
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    to # 50 and #53

    RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    AND #17 IF BOCHRIM ARE NOT “MENCHLICH” ENOUGH FOR YOU, DON’T INVITE THEM TO YOUR SIMCHA WHEN YOU NEED THEM, DON’T ASK US TO COME BE YOUR CLOWN AND THEN TREAT US LIKE WE ARE’NT HUMAN

    making issues
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    making issues

    bored bochur who doesnt have better thingsa to do except make problems.
    bochurim r respected as everyone was once a bochur yet we must always make issues of nonissues. What is wrong with this world.

    A bochur
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    A bochur

    i’m a young bochur, only in shiur beis mesivta, but i am proud to be one, and proud that whenever something comes up, it’s put on us. I’ve gone to funerals, weddings, shiva houses, chanukkah parties, (dressed up as a dreidel) and other bochurim have even been eidim for a get. It’s our privelage and responsibilty, but we deserve to be treated nicely

    10 years ago
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    10 years ago

    We where bachurim that went to a shlichus 3 H drive from ch. We left about 10 am some of us had a chance to had a coffee, once we arrived we had all the instructions and the directions of dispatch etc… The shlichus came to welcome us around 3pm told us you are probably hungry we have some jelly daugnugts for you. We where about 30 bachurim, one of us stood up and say thank you so much we have more dughnnouts in the mitzvah tank guy are Hungry and need food. He quickly realized how stupid was that… Read more »

    Clowns are humans too
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    Clowns are humans too

    As a bachur by a shliach on Purim I had to wear a clown costume for literally 32 hours straight after that I got like way traumatized and I now have coulrophobia (the fear of clowns) the whole Purim I was disrespected and made fun of. I was barely fed and wasn’t even given a bed to sleep on. My cheeks still hurt from smiling so much. I do have a phycologist and he is helping me overcome my fears. So my point to all the shluchim is, be nice to us, respect us and we’ll be happy to help… Read more »

    tracht gut vet zein gut
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    tracht gut vet zein gut

    #1 to the Shliach that didn’t pay the bachor, shame on you. You are oiver several d’oreysyes with your actions and nuch dragging the Rebbe into your shmutz. Decades ago when I was a bochur the vast majority of shluchim treated very well and I still keep a kesher with them today. A handful of times I was mistreated. One that sticks out was someone who I spent over a week with while he was on a speaking tour. I was at the hotel room early mornings helping him with his packages driving him around setting up the programs selling… Read more »

    Unfortunately, if you don't honor yourself..
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    Unfortunately, if you don't honor yourself..

    or miss represent yourself in any way,
    You are vulnerable to be subjected the mistreatment,
    yes a yid should treat everyone with honor and love,
    but Ahavas Ysroel, is something that you inherit from someone close to you, like a father or grandfather or good friend, but if you don’t inherit it, then it’s not an easy task to be nice to each person as you should.

    Bochurim are literally the life of Lubavitch
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    Bochurim are literally the life of Lubavitch

    Keep the awesomeness going 🙂

    To the author and #17
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    To the author and #17

    I’m a bochur, the author has a point but no need to exagerate. To #17: an untucked shirt is part of look. Ask those who have a good taste in bochurim they’ll tell you it looks good on bochurim who know how to dress.

    bochurim
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    bochurim

    Bochurim are the best!
    Bochurim should be given the best meal at chassenes,the best pay for their help

    Take it easy
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    Take it easy

    Bochurim aren’t the only pepole in the world and differently not the top… Just calm down and stop demanding everything…

    The rebbes army
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    The rebbes army

    Lubavitch Runs on Bochurim

    A bochur Making my millions
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    A bochur Making my millions

    I kinda agree with this author but it really can’t be a blanket statement . To shluchim: Think of us like this … Let’s say 200 bochurim go through ur doors every few years. odds are that a handful of them are ganna be really successful one day and odds are if u stick out in their minds as being a really really good guy,that they will remember you. so instead of just having us over and making us 2nd class citizens , maybe u should invest in us too and not just think that we are in the way… Read more »

    True!
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    True!

    I know the author very well and he is 100% right! Even to the ones that say that it’s not true have to admit that Bochurim ARE treated differently than others. We do it for the Mitzvah itself but why do these people, Shluchim, have to make it harder than it really is?

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