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Birchas Hachama Unity Fails

Efforts to organize a large Birchas Hachama ceremony in front of 770 next week was turned down due to Crown Heights dynamics. A plan for a unity event for 10,000 people was met with fierce objection by Gabai Zalmen Lipskier. "This event is for everybody, and we're going to say Yechi," he told COLlive. Full Story

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a Montrealer
April 4, 2009 4:00 pm

I agree with 44 & #72!! In Mtl. if you want to say Yechi you say it & if you don’t then keep your mouth Closed !!Thats it!! Everyone is entitled to their opinion !!It’s a free country!!

to number 10
April 3, 2009 11:36 pm

you say lipskier is making mackloykes. maybe. but you need to fight.

מענה של כ"ק אדמו"ר זי"ע
April 2, 2009 2:50 am

אע”פ שאיו מצוה לפרסם זהותו של משיח מ”מ מצוה מן התורה אהבת ישראל.
It goes something like that

TO # 125 YOUR ARE RIGHT
April 2, 2009 1:55 am

im also from baltimore and your right it dosnt happen shame on chabad

learn then talk
April 1, 2009 8:05 pm

always peace! LEARN understand and converse= true peace

after you learn and understand you will live and teach peace. b/c truth = peace. moshiach now!!

to 130
April 1, 2009 2:19 pm

I think I know who that Australian is. C.N.???!

to # 124
April 1, 2009 10:50 am

i’m from mtl also and i totally agree

to # 44
April 1, 2009 10:41 am

there’s a big difference between not saying something you want to and forcing someone to say what they don’t believe in

moscow
April 1, 2009 8:28 am

thank’s for the varemkait we injoyd it

HELLO PEOPLE!!!
March 31, 2009 10:59 pm

WHAT IS WRONG IF THEY SAY YECHI?

IF YOU REALLY WANT ACHDUS COME THERE ANYWAY. EVEN IF THEY SAY YECHI. YOU DON’T WANT? DON’T SAY!

PEOPLE ARE REAL STUPID IF THEY WON’T COME TO A ONCE-IN-A-28-YEAR MITZVAH, JUST BECAUSE THEIR SAYING YECHI…

YOU DON”T WANTS TO SAY YECHI? DON’T! NO ONE IS FORCING YOU!

the man
March 31, 2009 6:03 pm

to 128, you crack me up with ur stupidity, keep it up im in a depressed mood i need someone to make me laugh, to get my mind off my sad thoughts.

spectator
March 31, 2009 6:00 pm

To all the gantza farstaiers. Neutrual in this case means 1 that there should be no yechi signs, because that chases away other yedin, and thats a fact! 2, it means that those who wanto say yechi, say it, but let me tell you a little seceret, if you beleive in it you can say it quitley. That is what neutraule means. Thank you guys and enjoy this pothetic fight, 130 comments, wow thats beyond me.

Australian
March 31, 2009 4:05 pm

Listen mate, yechi, no yechi. It shnas hakhel. stop whinging and be a part of it.

Just one question
March 31, 2009 4:00 pm

I don’t know if somebody else alraedy brought this up, but how about the Gaboim should have thought of arranging a Birchas Hachama themselves since “The Rebbe gave the event to the Gaboim and asked them to take care of it as you can see from the video”? Why do they just have to pick a fight on somebody else and destroy something good and constructive (at least in that person’s opinion)? And if the Rebbe wants you to say Yechi, go there and scream it as loud as you want! Do you have nothing better to do with your… Read more »

to everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 31, 2009 3:59 pm

please do yourself a favor and learn the Rebbe sichos. You’ll see the light, the truth.
the rebbe says yechi will cause the arousing of the dead – so why is it not proper?

agree with 103 & 110
March 31, 2009 3:42 pm

The magefah l”a of Rebbi Akivah’s talmidim was due to each talmid not being able to be soivel or tolerate the other’s opinion on what actually was the pshat or kavana of their Rebbe. Hence the outcome.. By now, 2000 years later, hearing over & over the lessons of this, we as Lubavitchers, should be at the forefront to show the world – yes, we have differences of opinion, but we still have the ability and yes self bitul (one of the basics of chassidus Chabad) to push aside our personal p’nius and biasis to ultimately show the world ,… Read more »

from london!
March 31, 2009 3:07 pm

shame on you ppl! i look up to my lubavitch friends from n.y and this is how crown heights is acting! this is the place i want my children to come to and feel the greatnest that crown heights has?!?! shame on you!

to all you chabadnicks
March 31, 2009 2:33 pm

i will tell you one thing by us in baltimore this stuff dosn’t happen

from mtl
March 31, 2009 1:55 pm

YOU GUYS ARE NUTS

What does Yechi mean?
March 31, 2009 1:03 pm

is it a statement a tfila or bakosho?
don’t compare the times b4 the chov zayin, adar b4 gimmel tammuz with now. Maybe now is not time for yechi

ok #1 everyone please learn how to spell #2 everyone chill!! it will be ok dearies!!
March 31, 2009 11:56 am
To #107
March 31, 2009 9:03 am

How can u be a such a big anti? was the rebbe an anti aas to say Zeya verbally? and yet you want to do just that! Shame on you!

I agree
March 31, 2009 8:59 am

AT FIRST I THOUGHT LIPSKER IS DEAD WRONG, ACHDUS SHOULD COME FIRST AND FOREMOST. BUT AS I SCROLLED DOWN AND READ SOME OF THE COMMENTS I REALIZED HOW ONE SIDED THIS WHOLE THING REALLY IS. ALL THESE SELF RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE WANT IT TO BE “NEUTRAL” WHICH MEANS WE DON’T FILL THE WISHES OF HALF THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE THE VERSE OF YECHI TO BE SAID. NEUTRAL MEANS BOTH WAYS. “I WON’T MAKE YOU SAY WHAT YOU DON’T WANT TO SAY, BUT DON’T STOP ME FROM SAYING WHAT I VERY MUCH WANT TO SAY” THERE WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY NO SKIN… Read more »

to 108
March 31, 2009 7:44 am

see the sicha of Erev Rosh Hashana 5752 where the Rebbe clearly says that malchus shomayim is not complete without malchus beis dovid

FOR POWER
March 31, 2009 7:24 am

THESE “BIG MISHICHISTIM” SAY AND DO THESE THING FOR POWER AND IT WORKS SOMEWHAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THE MISHIGOIM WITH THEM…

Losh
March 31, 2009 7:06 am

Losh is also in it? He is attached to the benkl? he should really be ashamed. HE SHOULD BE FORCED TO RESIGN!!!

nothing to do with YECHI
March 31, 2009 7:00 am

ya yechi or no yechi this is about a person who caused more machlokes in the lubavitch community than anyone else since 3 tamuz and he is once again being himself by not letting there be a proper birchas hachama
If zalman lipsker was a gabai upstairs he would fight about not having yechi such a person who is only out to have machlokes does not deserve to be running such an event

to 112
March 31, 2009 6:59 am

genug mit der tipshus

stop comparing the rebbes lochem with mitzvah tefilin and hachrazas yechi

gevalt

Rebbe
March 31, 2009 6:58 am

Can’t blame no one. This all Yechi thing comes from the Rebbes sicha (muge) and from maase Rav saying and singing Yechi after davening for almost two years with the actual participation and acceptance of the Rebbe himself.
Including the mugedike Siche (for those that believe 3 Tamuz is like 10 Shvat 5710) where clearly says that Yechi brings to Hokitzu the Frierdike Rebbe etc.

למספר 109
March 31, 2009 6:38 am

עוה”פ מי שכתב 75 לא אמר שתפילין זה דאורייתא וממילא יחי זה ג”כ דאורייתא בתכ”ז ובשנים שלאחרי זה לא היו מנגדים שלחמו את מבצע תפילין? בטח היו בא נגיד אם היו אז מנגדים ואמרו אנחנו רוצים לעשות הקהל מתנגדים ביחד עם ליובאוויטש על תנאי א’ תפסיקו לעשות מבצע תפילין אתה חושב שהרבי הי’ מסכים לזה אותו דבר פה יחי זה לא מצוה עשה דאורייתא רק באותו מידה שהרבי לחם בשביל מבצע תפילין הרבי עידד את יחי. ולידיעתך ג”כ עידד אותה לפני ז”ך אד”ר נ”ב אז תפסיק לבלבל את המוח כמו”כ כמו שמישהו כתב לפני כן לעשות פשרה בלי יחי זה… Read more »

article contains lashon hara and increases he oppisite of achdus
March 31, 2009 6:32 am

write the article better next time

Beis Shmuel
March 31, 2009 6:20 am

Please come to the rescue!

erev pesach RUSH!! RUSH!! RUSH!!
March 31, 2009 6:20 am

DO THE WHOLE THING let some kid get up at the very end say yechi 3 times and when the casios and flags start waving those who cant suffer the displays URE FAMILYS WAITING AND THE CHUMETZ HAS TO BE BURNED and u didnt foil the fridge ure going to be soooo busy and under stress u have nooo idea trust me when this actually happens noone is going to notice people will be soo busy! and out of it! soo all this noise is a waste of time service and yechi and those who will leave will go and… Read more »

just read #75 to know why
March 31, 2009 5:52 am

u see he compares putting on tefilin to saying yechi

theres your answer to all thos who say – ah just let them say it-

do you see what he writes again… putting on tefilin – mitzvah deoraisa – is the same as saying yechi.

gevalt…..

Stop mixing malchus shmayim with malchus yehuda
March 31, 2009 5:47 am

Stop mixing malchus shmayim with malchus yehuda

just liek it is oser to say it after neila

to #38
March 31, 2009 5:46 am

So I guess (according to you) it will be ok if after they say yichey the next speaker can choose to use the words ZIA’H in his speech if he so wishes, and those that don’t want to hear those words we can have the gaboim run around and give out air plugs. neutral means you do / say NOTHING!

moshiach NOW!
March 31, 2009 5:29 am

-1- just check the video – THEY SAID YECHI IN MEM ALEF!!
-2- just dont say it. You are allowed to LISTEN to it.
-3- this is a one-time thing. why split it??

to #78 - the ggu who think he knows what yechi does
March 31, 2009 4:46 am

must I quote you the sicha of beis nissan mem ches?
am hooretz!

Hashem Yishmor!
March 31, 2009 4:01 am

This article and lots of the comments remind me of Rabbi Akiva’s students – who did not have ahavas yisroel and passed away in the weeks of Sifirah- why??? because they each wanted their peers to agree with THEIR opinon! They couldnt accept that their friend had a DIFFERENT VIEW than them!!!!! we need to look at history and learn from our mistakes if we want Moshiach to come!!! AD MOSI and I sure hope s/t works out so that we will be Zoche to Moshiach NOW! on a side note i do think this article was written a bit… Read more »

I know they are many comments... but....
March 31, 2009 2:42 am

Just a word what Achdus means:

Achdus doesn’t mean giving in or changing your view. Achdus means that we disagree but nevertheless love each other and will sit with each other.

saying that if there yechi then we won’t come – that is totally NOT Achdus!

Achdus is that we will come – and even though we don’t agree with what they are saying – we still love them!

Think about it this way: giving in is not peace, it’s giving in! peace is that you “agree to disagree”.

Shalom to everyone, and Moshaich Now!

meshichist
March 31, 2009 2:21 am

worse then this article is the fighting in the comments
its lots more important achdus then saying yechi even if i believe in yechi and i am a meshichist

To be fair
March 31, 2009 1:53 am

My initial feeling was one of disbelief that col actually posted this article, but as the comments piled up it became apparent to me that unfortunately this article was important (albiet written differently) but I must make a point here to the editor here, the comments are quite obviously not monitored bc there are some very borderline and beyond comments that have been posted.

Take it to heart

May we merit to celebrate this truly uniqe occasion with achdus -true achdus without defaming the rebbe zya and without making a mockery of his beautiful work.

Moshiach now

I have left Lubavitch because of Zalmen Lipskier
March 31, 2009 1:46 am

This story has made me so sick I am leaving Lubavitch. If this is Chassidus I want no part of this nonsense

Everything has time
March 31, 2009 1:43 am

For a while it’s was “we want moshich now now”
Then some change it to “yechy” and now the same group trying to change it to “kush mich in…” no way don’t fall for this one

Dear everyone!
March 31, 2009 12:38 am

What was the purpose of posting this article?
What was the purpose of all the silly comments?
TRUE achdus is when everyone comes together!
If someone says Yechi, live and let live, no one is forcing anyone else to say Yechi?!
This is a Lubavitcher event, not an event in BP or Lakewood!
You will always have someone that will do it, if not Lipsker.
Peace out!

I'm out
March 31, 2009 12:27 am

Count me out. I will find some minyan in a corner shul.

The Utmost in Unity
March 30, 2009 11:45 pm

When every Shaliach/Shlucha on the front lines brings his/her people together in their own city at their own time on their own dime, that is the Unity the Rebbe wanted. He doesn’t care about Crown Heights. He has abandoned it, thanks to those who dont make him feel welcome.
Who cares if some plumber in Crown Heights insists that the only way to have unity is if I shove my opinion down your throat?
Shluchim…go out and be matzliach in all your wonderful endeavors.
And to the few shluchim in Crown Heights…uberoishom Shimmy Weinbaum…keep up the good work.

to 71 and 78
March 30, 2009 10:58 pm

#71 you said it right on. #78, WHO ARE YOU TO ARGUE AGAINST THE REBBE WHEN HE SAID (2 Nissan 5748) THAT SAYING YECHI HAMELECH “GIVES LIFE TO THE KING”???
You know better?

personal opinions (with no bases)!!
March 30, 2009 10:32 pm

to # 59
beis nissen nun beis??? after chog zayin adar???
thats good! keep it up! the bekiyus fits the rest of your comment!! keep your opinion, just remember that yours and the rebbes have nothing in common!!!!

A MUST READ!!
March 30, 2009 10:26 pm

when there is a argument btwn 2 sides whether u should say A or B, then the “peace” and peshoro would be to either SAY BOTH or NONE. but when the fight is about YES saying s/t or NOT saying it, then you CANT bring peace btwn them by deciding NOT to say it and “THEN there’ll be peace” (like half the comments were saying!! unbelievably..) – because thats precisely what they’re arguing about!! THINK ABOUT IT!! on the other hand you CANT say “let everybody anounce what they want and let them put yechi on the signs and the… Read more »

disgraced
March 30, 2009 8:59 pm

this is when im embarresed to associate with lubavitch. who gives a toss if people say yechi or not? if it makes you happy say it, if it makes you cringe dont say it….the rebbe would be appallled at the behaviour of the “gabbaim” of the community.

I cannot believe this!!
March 30, 2009 8:24 pm

what would the Rebbe say about this fighting!! Achdus is more important than yechi / no yechi. People – stop it!

to 4
March 30, 2009 7:16 pm

what are you saying you get out of here!!!

a poshte yid
March 30, 2009 7:08 pm

this lack of achdus in 770 is turning people off lubavitch

I dont want to have to...
March 30, 2009 6:37 pm

I dont want to have to be subjected to a crazy amount of yellow flag-waving nuts. This is rediculous.

I honestly DONT GET IT
March 30, 2009 6:36 pm

Why cant you people just get along? Why cant everyone just come together once in 28 YEARS? I just dont understand!!!!!

WHY CAN'T PEOPLE GO ANYWAY?
March 30, 2009 6:14 pm

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES ANY OF THIS MAKE?? WHO’S RUNNING THE SHOW??

JUST SHOW UP!!!

to #77
March 30, 2009 5:44 pm

it is obvious from your comment that you are not familiar with the rebbes sichos of nun aleph- beis

LIPSKER
March 30, 2009 5:36 pm

You guys are giving him too much credit as if he made a political cheshbon. The man was stupid enough to even alienate his own base. 70% of the meshichisten are fuming at him for putting up Rabbi Ozdoba to make a Siyum. some are even threatening to make a 3rd Birchas Hachamo. its shocking that he can put up a person who calls himself a rov in crown Heights, yet defies another Beis Din and goes to court. Its a massive Chilul lubavitch to have him up there, and its all because of Zalman Lipsker!

eastern parkway
March 30, 2009 5:36 pm

in 1981 eastern parkway whase not closed off

What kind of "peshora" is that
March 30, 2009 5:16 pm

when two people come to a rov and they have a argument and the rov trys to make peace so he says lets make peshora that both sides gain and lose the same much
no signs no yechi is not a peshora its making the other side win i don’t understand the whole logic behind this artical but what ever

Moshiach is coming!! Ad Mosai!!!!
March 30, 2009 5:12 pm

This year’s Birchas Hachama is the 3rd time in history that it’s in this kviyus!! 1st time- Yetzias mitzrayim, 2nd time- Miracle of Purim, 3rd time- THIS YEAR, when Moshiach will come now! AD MOSAI! I’m going to do Birchas Hachama in front of 770 no matter what the politics are!! If Moshiach comes at that second, I want to see our Rebbe and that is the place to be!! Rebbe- Ad Mosai?!?!?!!!

just wondering
March 30, 2009 4:47 pm

how does this sound: program was canceled due to feirce apposition to announcing yechi at the event. nobody will die from hearing yechi, why cant people be just a little bit open minded?!

don't understand yechi
March 30, 2009 4:43 pm

The Jewish people have not been gathered from exile, the third bais hamikdosh has not been rebuilt, etc. Someone saying yechi does not want Moshiach now? People say yechi because they want the Rebbe to be revealed as Moshiach but is the way to bring moshiach to scream yechi or to have achdus with those who may have opposing views-because if they really wanted the Rebbe to be revealed as moshiach, they would tolerate those with opposing views and not insist that yechi be said.

delays the geula
March 30, 2009 4:35 pm

Saying yechi does not add chayos to the Rebbe-it delays the geula.

Live and let live
March 30, 2009 4:27 pm

I cannot believe that the gaboyim would let a whole community down by not making an event based on what lipskier said. so if yechi might be said means that the WHOLE CH cant have a gathering, a gathering that takes place ONCE every 28 yrs.

chab al arein in bud and make the event!!

ceo
March 30, 2009 4:27 pm

the world expects this kind of sad separative stuff from us in CHts. They WANT it, its like an arena of fools…..or maybe like those arenas of bull fights. Why do we end up giving them a show. If people want to say Yechi, they should say it after or separately, because it will only continue to cause separation. *sigh*. Lets get it straight…..the issue is that yidden should be working together. How scary it is for those of us not causing fighting and separation, to sit by, waiting for others to just stop their identity games. They feel like… Read more »

הרי הרבי עידד אותה!
March 30, 2009 4:24 pm

בא לשאל אותך שאלה: אם היה מגיע מישהוא עם טענות על מבצע תפילין וכדומה, ובשביל זה הוא נתרחק מליובאוויטש, האם הייתה מפסיק מלעשות מבצע תפילין בשביל “אחדות”, הרי לא יעלה על הדעת שטות כזה- מכיון שזה מבצע של הרבי והרבי עודד את זה, כמו”כ בנוגע ההכרזה הקדושה של “יחי”- הרי הרבי עידד אותו למעלה משנה שלימה, א”כ איך יעלה על הדעת להפסיקו ח”ו בשביל “אחדות”!

oyshhhh
March 30, 2009 4:23 pm

firstly…why do they need 20,000? whats the money going for? is there supposed to be a program or somehting that cost that much?
secondly, im sorry but this was posted to stir things up. everyone can gather do birchas hachama etc and then if u wanna say yechi go ahead. if ur neutral-(like me) then that shouldnt bother you..if your anti, then leave by yechi, after birchas hachama…but hopefully moshiach will be here before then and all politics can end!!! moshiahc now…ad mosai!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

conditions?
March 30, 2009 4:19 pm

your saying Lipsker is making conditions – YES YECHI thats why it cant be achdus

Maybe its the other way around – the conditions of the organizers is is NO YECHI – thats NOT a condition?????
stop all this already – yechi is about OUR OWN REBBE!!!! so who will cahlish if someone says Yechi!!!!

hergish/moach
March 30, 2009 4:06 pm

Lipskar and the like are obviously very narrowminded. I’m not sure if Lipskar is total hergish or not, but there has to be some moach as well. The main focus is Achdus and Birchas Hachama. The event, of course, is not always totally controlable. So if some say “Yechi”, so be it; it’s not the end of the world. But that should not be the main focus. Whether you say “yechi” or not doesn’t prove a thing. Everyone believes the same thing.

lets all grow up!!!
March 30, 2009 4:03 pm

who exactly will not survive if they DO say Yechi Whom does it bother – after all we are talking about OUR very own REBBE – so why is it so terrible if they DO say Yechi You know what? There was an attempt after Bombay to make a HUGE gathering in 770 for whole anash in Crown heights – all gaboim and evryone agreed – but guess what – it fell through because someone said that if a certain member of the rebbes secretariat attends then he cant attend so c’mon lets stop all this nonsense – time to… Read more »

Lombotomless
March 30, 2009 4:02 pm

King Moshich steaks at Upper West Side restaurant; Yechi flavored ice cream in midtown!
Now that’s progress to report.

Ninja Chosid
March 30, 2009 3:59 pm

Yechi Yechi Leolam Vo’ed!

....
March 30, 2009 3:49 pm

okay….i happen to be neutral—for starters, and i think that the yechi should be said to yourself if thats wut u feel. but all the comments say how achdus is better then yechi etc. ur contradicting yourselves. your all sitting here bashing lipsker, is that the definition of achdus?? love every jew as urself…what happened to that.?? you dont have to agree with him at all..i dont agree with him. but u dont have to bash him, state ur opinion in a way that wont hurt anyways… by everyone saying lashon hara etc..im srry to say, but it wwill not… Read more »

Sam M
March 30, 2009 3:46 pm

A special Yasher Koach to Mickey Goldman from South Africa for arranging The Rebbe’s 100th Birthday rally in front of 770. It was just as difficult to navigate politically but he went with an emes and persevered creating the most meaninful and inspiring event since Gimmel Tammuz.

unity against who????????
March 30, 2009 3:28 pm

unity does not mean that the other side agrees to you
the same way they have to agree to you you have to agree to them because just like you think your right they also think there right so stop making other people bad look at your self and see if your doing what the rebbe says you have to do!
hatzloch rabba and moshiach now!!

Hard Working Shliach: I am sick of this
March 30, 2009 3:26 pm

There is so much that the Rebbe expects from us to do. This obsession with YECHI seems to take prevalence over everything else. It doesn’t serve anything good. Stop turning Chassidishe Hergeishim into new halochois. Crown Heights is turning into Krank Heights. Forget about gimmicks and slogans, just do what you can to do the Rebbe’s work!!!!

shtusem
March 30, 2009 3:24 pm

if the rebbe was here lipsker whould be fired

moishe der g
March 30, 2009 3:20 pm

the hate seems to be spreading i am sure if they would have wanted they could have worked it out with lipskier, but i am sure they came to him with gangbuster threats, no yechi no signs no posters no one wearing yellow they will have an army of bochurim (they call them voluteers to help) but really to make sure the even will be yechirein they came to zalman like gestapo members. and all in the name of achdus. so people in the name of achdus let there be a moment of prayer with someone saying all those that… Read more »

Lipskers Right!!!
March 30, 2009 3:16 pm

That’s my take!!!

Resident of CH
March 30, 2009 3:11 pm

Tolerance is live and let live. If the antis don’t like Yechi, then let them not say it. If they can’t tolerate their fellow chassidim who want to say Yechi and therefore won’t come to Birchas Hachama outside 770, then they don’t belong at Birchas Hachama outside 770.

Zalman Lipskier never said that anyone who doesn’t say Yechi should be thrown out of 770. However, I can guarantee you that Yudel Krinsky would certainly throw people out of 770 for saying Yechi if he was in charge.

Laaniyas Dayti
March 30, 2009 3:11 pm

———— #50 SUCH BABIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why are people still fighting. its such non sense. We all believe the Rebbe still lives on, we all believe that the Rebbe is not walking around in 770 so who cares if you say Yechi or not.——– It is most interesting how you assume to know what “we all believe”. Especially since you are not hearing what people are “afraid” to say when the likes of your type are around. It is quite possible that a majority of Lubavitchers today regret that a manhig was not appointed 15 years ago as an interim measure until… Read more »

To # 22
March 30, 2009 3:02 pm

The Harachamon in bentching is mentioned in our Sefer haminhagim which was checked over by the rebbe!!! Not any idiot off the street could start adding their own things to a nusach. for all the brainless people who think allowing yechi is neutral – should we then allow Neturai Karta to also annouce their propaganda at our lubavitch gatherings for the sake of being nutrall , dummy’s please use your common sense & don’t be blinded by power seeking lipskers. Yechi of todays tzfatim (includes Gaboyim) has a totaly different meaning then the yechi in the sicha of bais nissan,… Read more »

the rebbe said himself
March 30, 2009 2:58 pm

that many people run away from the good that lubavitch does because some people shrie melech homoshioach

so why dosnt anyone read the sichos and understand that the rebbe never wanted lunatics

let the tzfasnikim go back to tzfas let lipskeir go back to being a plumber and let theaguch actually try to enforce a quasi judgement
i have not brought my kids to 770 except to the rebbes office because of these lunatics

wow
March 30, 2009 2:57 pm

i guess rabbi kats who was a good enough gabi for the REBBE isnt good enough for RABBI LIPKIER.

so transparent!
March 30, 2009 2:46 pm

this was obviously posted to get as many hits and comments as possible and to stir things up a bit.

Laaniyas Daytin
March 30, 2009 2:44 pm

It is a halacha principle (mainly in Seder Kodshim) that “eyn lo roinu raaya” – that the fact that no one saw a certain activity in the Bais Hamikdash take place, that is no proof that it didn’t – or mustn’t, or is not required. Leinyaneynu: Not saying Yechi does not constitute any proof of corectness. It only diminidhes the ploitical clout of those who do say. On the other hand, saying Yechi is outright offensive to many (besides the chilul ha kovoid it brings to the Rebbe) and in saying it one faction will be offending the other. Therefore… Read more »

38 is 100% correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 30, 2009 2:43 pm

thanks 38!

PEACE WILL BRING MOSHIACH!!!
March 30, 2009 2:42 pm

Yechi! NO Yechi! What difference does it make – I honestly do not say Yechi myself butfor all those who were going to come before because there was no Yechi being said why can’t you go now still and have it all together B’Achdus!!! You can go along with out the Yechi Why did all the schools and Mosdos suddenly back out cos Yechi is being said it’s a ew words! And for all those wh are saying Ahavas Yisroel is important why on ere are you fighting about Yechi and nt Yechi! The Beis hamikdosh was destroyed through Sinas… Read more »

to 45
March 30, 2009 2:40 pm

wow! so much hate, are you sure your lubavitch not satmar?
the reason why krinsky cant do anything is simply b/c (are you ready) HE LOST!
the court said that the Gaboyim, yes Rabbi Lipsker is in charge of running the shul! just as the Rebbe set it up!

and if you have a problem with yechi that is to bad, b/c i plan on saying it loud and clear.

i hope you take a chill pill, and learn to love every yid, not just the ones that agree with you

SUCH BABIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 30, 2009 2:28 pm

Why are people still fighting. its such non sense. We all believe the Rebbe still lives on, we all believe that the Rebbe is not walking around in 770 so who cares if you say Yechi or not.

what is he doing here
March 30, 2009 2:26 pm

what he doing in 770 tell to go home

WHUYOU
March 30, 2009 2:24 pm

IT SEEMS ALL THE ONCE POSTING WERE BORN AFTER NUNBAIS ANY ONE WHO KNOWS THIS GUY BEFORE THE MESHICHISTEM ELEVATED HIM TO PLUMBER STATES WOULD LAFF IT OFF THIS GUY WAS A WANABE FROM DAY ONE

yechi
March 30, 2009 2:21 pm

okay, i’m seriously neutral, and I really think it’s more of an ego thing here,
even if Lipskier says they’ll say yechi, you really think they’ll say it 100 times? they’ll say it once or three times…and so…big deal!
and signs…if there are signs who cares ?

Vote early, vote often!
March 30, 2009 2:16 pm

I like the idea of a vote. 1 vote per family, no Bochurim. If you’re not in the Tzach list, no vote. ID required. Satmar counts the votes. I’m dead serious, it’s a fair idea. Let the people speak!

Shoin!

thank you rabbi lipsker!
March 30, 2009 2:09 pm

we are in america there is fridom of speech.
we don’t force anyone to say anything! don’t force us not to say what we want!
and if that is the “peace” that you have in mind, i say NO THANK YOU, keep in for yourself.
i want freedom over peace!!!!!!

Youre right I'm angry!
March 30, 2009 2:09 pm

# 40 You are insane. I want to see the Rebbe ALIVE, B’guf. You tell me when & where, meet me there, & LET ME SEE MY REBBE IN THE FLESH. If I do, I will publicly stand up & proclaim everywhere the Rebbe is alive B’GUF!! As for this Lunatic Hateful Lipskier…WHO appointed him Gabbai? I just don’t understand why Rabbi Krinsky doesn’t carry out his mandate as per the courts. Why are we all stopped from having Birkas Hachama AS IT SHOULD BE DONE? Get rid of Lipskier. Lock him up somewhere for the duration & hire security.… Read more »

"lets make peace, all you have to do is hold like me!"
March 30, 2009 2:05 pm

every time an event of “peace” comes up, they say let the meshechistim give in, no yechi and only then will there be “peace”.
why cant there be “peace” the other way, let the Anti’s say yechi?
real achdus means accepting each other as is, not changing the person.
my proposal is: whoever wants to say yechi can, whoever doesn’t, does not have to!

that is the only way it will work, and that is REAL Achdus!

WHY CANT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY Hve a public vote as to what and how should be comfortable for them
March 30, 2009 2:05 pm

we live in a democracy right and when there is too many opinions and deadlock “too smart” u make a vote on different enactments ways and means and forums

we look to a group to put together a list of resolutions that the whole crown heights horde should vote upon supervised by both parties

to nu fe??
March 30, 2009 2:01 pm

z. lipskier keep up the great work? what work, please explain to me what great work that he does, has anything changed in 770 does it still look like a train station in the “Rebbes Shul”? am just curious, maybe i missed something here, what has he done?

Court
March 30, 2009 1:55 pm

I thought Lubavitch won in court? So, why is Lipsker running this show?

nu fe?
March 30, 2009 1:47 pm

s. weinbaum plz.?????you would let no yechi?????????
were is you belief??? the rebbe is alive!!
Zalmen Lipskier keep up the great work we love u!!

a bunch of bored people
March 30, 2009 1:46 pm

hey, i totally forgot people still cared, heh,

crownheightzer
March 30, 2009 1:46 pm

AT FIRST I THOUGHT LIPSKER IS DEAD WRONG, ACHDUS SHOULD COME FIRST AND FOREMOST. BUT AS I SCROLLED DOWN AND READ SOME OF THE COMMENTS I REALIZED HOW ONE SIDED THIS WHOLE THING REALLY IS. ALL THESE SELF RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE WANT IT TO BE “NEUTRAL” WHICH MEANS WE DON’T FILL THE WISHES OF HALF THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE THE VERSE OF YECHI TO BE SAID. NEUTRAL MEANS BOTH WAYS. “I WON’T MAKE YOU SAY WHAT YOU DON’T WANT TO SAY, BUT DON’T STOP ME FROM SAYING WHAT I VERY MUCH WANT TO SAY” THERE WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY NO SKIN… Read more »

Narishkit
March 30, 2009 1:33 pm

This is the most radical comment I have ever heard “Not saying Yechi is not believing the Rebbe is Rebbe” just look how a realign is created since after 3 Tammoz with no one to control it and without any basses in Torah, people are telling this Narishkit that has no Mokor in the Rebbes Torah nor in any other part of Torah to children Nabach who don’t know different. Any simple Chossid knows what it means to believe and be connected to the Rebbe nowhere does it say it is dependent on “Yechi”

all of u!!!
March 30, 2009 1:32 pm

Zalmen Lipskier g-d bless you! you are 100% right!
then they said we want moshiach now!! now we say yechi!
the rebbe told the gabayim to take care of bircha hachamo everyone else mix OUT!!! for all those of you who are saying rebbe this rebbe that you care about the rebbe be quit and let the gabayim arrange it however thay see fit.

p.s. as long as it has yechi!!!!

a alter kaker says.
March 30, 2009 1:30 pm

im considered a old fart. but i have more respect for the bais shmuel chevre than lipskier. one is building a badly needed mikvah for chabad the other is causing machlokes with this yechi business. my olny hope is the new generation.

oy! hashem yishmor look at all this fightning its terrible!
March 30, 2009 1:29 pm
No good
March 30, 2009 1:18 pm

to date, no good has come out of Yechi.
It has not helped a soul and only caused fightes and trouble in lubavitch and beyond

Lipsker please take note
March 30, 2009 1:11 pm

there is a simple halocho in Kitzur shulchan oruch ( a sefer the Rebbe told many people to learn) that when it comes a yortzeit and two people are fighting over saying kadish etc. its better to give up the Kaddish and keep sholom. This will be a greater zechus to the neshomo than the saying of Kadish – as important as that may be. dai lachakimoh bermizoh — and by the way this is the Rebbes shitoh. Better sholom-no one is compromising an eseh or a loi seseh of the Torah or even of the Rabbonon if Yechi is… Read more »

Wow
March 30, 2009 1:11 pm

Wow!ppl talk way to much! Just stop no one is interested!

bochurs opinion
March 30, 2009 1:11 pm

saying yechi is being neutral
not saying yechi is against (the rebbe)

March 30, 2009 1:08 pm

They said we want moshiach now, now we say AD MOSAI, NOT blank adoneinu.

kush...?
March 30, 2009 1:06 pm

um excuse me but a little brains wouldnt hurt for what to post on the internet… just bc something was said doesnt mean it needs to be publiziced… ktzas sechel? the gabbai’s last line was not meant for public viewing

to #5
March 30, 2009 1:04 pm

‘THE PEOPLE”? WHAT PEOPLE? if this is the people than we are in real trouble.

just goes to show that this “yechi” business is more politics as to who has the last word, if you really meant it Mr. Lipskier, than being united would be more important, you could say your “yechi” in private, where it does not offend anyone.

hello
March 30, 2009 1:01 pm

ye i totally agree with comment #11, what r u thinking lipskier?

meshichist
March 30, 2009 12:49 pm

zalman: kush MIR in ******. the Rebbe is the Rebbe because the Rebbe is a neshoma klolius. don’t you think a neshoma klolius would want unity?

amazing
March 30, 2009 12:43 pm

its amazing that one meshugenner should be able to sabotage such a beautiful idea

so now we know
March 30, 2009 12:39 pm

so now on you w we know who the instigator is!! shame you zalmen we could had a true achdus. today yeder kaker hut a locker!

To 2
March 30, 2009 12:39 pm

Chasidim all the years added things in to the Sidur (e.g. harachamon in bentching…). So stop being a Sho’te!!!

שומו שמים
March 30, 2009 12:35 pm
???
March 30, 2009 12:34 pm

i dont understand…is it better that everyone should be united…or to say yechi??? seriously, this is getting really pathetic….since when did “we want moshiach..” become “yechi,..” this is way beyond me..

rebbe means yechi
March 30, 2009 12:31 pm

Lipsker can also say “baruch ata rebbe boreinu, yozreinu melach haolam…”(C”V)

עד מתי
March 30, 2009 12:27 pm

האים לא מספיק הצרות עד עכשיו

thank you
March 30, 2009 12:26 pm

thank you for posting this people should know who they are dealing with

plumber
March 30, 2009 12:26 pm

not gabay

BTW
March 30, 2009 12:24 pm

Yechi was said in 198!!!
(Yes I know it was a different loshon then, but as the saying goes: “im ikesh tispatol” vi’dal)

what
March 30, 2009 12:20 pm

is more important to the Rebbe?

Yechi or Achdus?

comment not for posting
March 30, 2009 12:19 pm

Dear collive,

I strongly urge you to close this comment forum. The amount of lashon hora, rechilus and aveiros that will be created from it will be great. Please consider this, or strongly monitor which comments you allow

what a shame!!!
March 30, 2009 12:19 pm

We need Moshiach now!!!

Go Lipsker!!!
March 30, 2009 12:19 pm

The people are with you!!!

MACHLOKES...
March 30, 2009 12:04 pm

LIPSKER SEE WHAT YECHI HAS CAUSED!!! YOU IGNARAMOUS…MACHLOKES MACHLOKES AND MORE MACHLOKES WAKE UP!!! MOSHIACH CAN” COME IF THERE IS NO UNITY ..THATS A NO BRAINER!!! .CAN”T WAIT FOR MERKOS TO KICK YOU OUT ON YOUR TOUCHUS…INTO THE STREET AND MAKE 770 A PLACE TO DAVEN, THE TZFATIM DON’T EVEN LISTEN TO YOU!! WAKE UP !!!

"We need change"
March 30, 2009 11:56 am

And this is who is controlling 770 and its events. Another reminder that “We need change” (back to the way it was meant to be).

It's only once in 28 years!!!
March 30, 2009 11:49 am

Can’t they at least once agree (neutral), at least so there should be a big gathering.

feh!
March 30, 2009 11:48 am

a chutzpa to collive reporter to write such a one-track-minded report….
being neutral dosent mean not saying yechi… it means shutting up when a friend of your says it!
you don’t have to agree, but to cancel the event cuz your not willing to LISTEN to someone adding chayos to the Rebbe?!
Feh again!
a chutzpa for shimmy weinbaum for giving in…

SICK!!!
March 30, 2009 11:45 am

And this lipsker makes YECHY look good??? NO WONDER MOSHIACH IS NOT HERE!!!! I AM P-OED!!!

Shmulll
March 30, 2009 11:41 am

just check the video – THEY SAID YECHI IN MEM ALEF!!

who is lipskier
March 30, 2009 11:38 am

why do we need him. tell him to get out of here. he not really a gabbay anyway. if you get the permit etc.. and you have the mic he can’t do anything.

STOP THE HATE!!!!!
March 30, 2009 11:36 am

We in Australia don’t want to know about the filth that takes place in your backyard.

No where in the nusach of birkas hachama
March 30, 2009 11:29 am

i didn’t see any yechi!!!
it’s not in the sidur, it is not in a machzor, why is it so important to say it????!?!?!?!?!

plumber
March 30, 2009 11:26 am

now we know what yechi REALLY means

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