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Before We All Leave WhatsApp Because of the Channels Feature

From the COLlive inbox: "Educators and parents are very concerned about the new Channels feature on WhatsApp, turning it into another social media platform. Simply getting everyone to leave WhatsApp may not be the ultimate solution to the concerns we face." Full Story

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Is This Sponsored?
September 23, 2023 8:44 pm

Is this “op-ed” sponsored by any individual or company?

Common sense
Reply to  Is This Sponsored?
September 24, 2023 4:36 am

What the op-ed says makes sense.

Will it also help support filter companies? I guess, but what’s the difference?

Just A TAG plug
Reply to  Is This Sponsored?
September 24, 2023 4:43 am

Seriously???
We need to educate, educate and when that fails…. More education!
Times have moved on. We cant be archaic about it. We need to teach how to safely navigate the internet as a whole, not constantly forbidding it. You can’t constantly be removing stuff. A bit like the recovering alcoholic…he doesn’t go the rest of his life never seeing alcohol.
If TAG were so concerned, it would be FREE service. Crowd find like everyone else does so it can be delivered free to those who need it most.

so has everyone left whatsapp yet
Reply to  Is This Sponsored?
December 1, 2023 9:33 am

or what’s taking so long?

Yes!!!!
September 23, 2023 8:46 pm

I totally agree with you
I really don’t understand why schools aren’t letting WhatsApp be a way of contacting. The more rules school add to the curriculum the more the kids will not listen and want to do wrong!!

read the privacy policy and terms of whatsapp
Reply to  Yes!!!!
September 23, 2023 9:54 pm

and of all your social media. that itself should be enough to convince you to delete them all.

Concerned
September 23, 2023 8:50 pm

Signal app
Maybe the alternative

Whatsapp is a million times better.
Reply to  Concerned
September 26, 2023 10:15 am

People are freaking out about a dumb feature that doesn’t really even have a lot of bad things in it, (trust me, I checked it out.)

Honestly, Whatsapp is THE most easiest to use and intuitive messenging app. Nothing else will replace it. Just learn to trust yourself or get a filter.

Who wrote this?
Reply to  Whatsapp is a million times better.
September 28, 2023 7:40 pm

It hasn’t been fully released. Rn any rando can’t make a channel yet. Rn is just the tip of the iceberg…

And coming from an avid whatsapp user, signal aint bad

Filters
September 23, 2023 9:38 pm

Can you list the names of filters that filter out the channel feature from whatsapp.
Havent heard of any of the mainstream kosher filters being able to do that yet

Mb smart
Reply to  Filters
September 24, 2023 1:16 am

Mb smart i personally have it already has it filered

I've never been able to open these channels
Reply to  Filters
September 24, 2023 4:42 am

I have the Netspark filter, and it blocks the channels. I an very happy with it, there’s no difference between a week ago and now with the filter. I completely agree with the author.

Filters
Reply to  I've never been able to open these channels
September 24, 2023 1:50 pm

If you have a filter from before, including certain iPhone filter settings, that prevents WhatsApp from updating, then your whatsapp wont have updated to include channels.
But I cannot find a filter that successfully filters out the channels once they have already become available on WhatsApp.

everyone leave whatsapp
September 23, 2023 9:54 pm

if you need an alternative u can consider wire

If YOU need an alternative....
Reply to  everyone leave whatsapp
September 24, 2023 4:00 pm

Don’t talk for others, the only way alternatives work is if everyone joins (which Btw is not happening)

leave whatsapp
Reply to  If YOU need an alternative....
September 26, 2023 10:33 am

everyone leave it!

Who wrote this?
Reply to  everyone leave whatsapp
September 29, 2023 2:06 am

Seems like most are running to signal. Let’s keep it to one to make this work 😊

my two cents
September 23, 2023 10:30 pm

I discovered that the only time filters work is when I never test them. Almost everyone I meet who “fails” with filters, failed because they tested their filter. For some reason, they decided it made sense to check and see how good the filter was… For the people who filters work, I believe it’s because putting the filter on is an act of surrender. In order for it to be surrender, there has to be something the person is giving up. Surrender means giving something up. Surrender that is only ‘in the heart’, isn’t surrender. For me where I was,… Read more »

For real
Reply to  my two cents
September 24, 2023 1:21 am

Saying that people should get rid of internet all together is out of touch with reality and saying that my kid is chasiish so he doesnt need a filter is

Wait for it

Out of touch with reality
Thats just the facts ask anyone in chinuch 99 percent of bochurim which dont have filters are doing the worst
That is the reality denying it is not chasidish or cool

Its murder

Download Signal
September 23, 2023 11:38 pm

There are times when we have to move on from certain things. This is one of them. The channels bring Whatsapp to be like any other app. It makes life so much easier by just switching to signal which is basically Whatsapp before channels instead of having to download a new filter. We parents need to know about signal

Filter
September 23, 2023 11:51 pm

Any recommendation for a good filter?
Tried for a yr from TAG. Slowed down the entire phone and blocked soo many kosher sites when I needed them. I am not missing it…

IPHONE
September 23, 2023 11:55 pm

What about IPHONE filter, that doesnt block the channels?

Unfortunately not
Reply to  IPHONE
September 24, 2023 4:38 am

iPhone filter (Screentime) doesn’t have options to restrict settings in WhatsApp itself.

Direction
September 24, 2023 12:41 am

Teach people how to make decisions. Don’t tell them which decisions to make. The issue is not Whatsapp or internet or filters; it’s empowering every person with information, personal tools, integrity and self respect.

You cant teach ADDICTION
Reply to  Direction
September 24, 2023 11:28 am

Your naive.
This is a Addiction problem and no one is immune no matter how much self respect they have!

YeshivaGram
September 24, 2023 1:16 am

YeshivaGram is proud to announce the first social media app built for the Frum Orthodox world.

In light of whatsapp rolling out public channels and causing immense issues to individuals and children we are happy to provide an alternative option.

YeshivaGram provides the ability to chat with friends and family as well as post and view public content all while having the ability to customize what you and your family sees with our unique filtering capabilities.

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Very nice
Reply to  YeshivaGram
September 24, 2023 4:39 am

But Signal is an existing platform that works fine.

It has all the features of WhatsApp.

The only con is that not many people use it. But that could now change

website
Reply to  YeshivaGram
September 26, 2023 10:34 am

does it have a website or is it only an app? Not everyone downloads apps

iPhone filter blocks it
September 24, 2023 1:57 am

iPhone filter does block the channels!

Screeentime?
Reply to  iPhone filter blocks it
September 24, 2023 4:40 am

Please explain how this works. I’m not aware of this

Thank you!
September 24, 2023 2:06 am

Thank you for suggesting https://tag.org/. I was hoping you would include a recommended filter in your excellent article. Much appreciated!

I agree it's ironic
September 24, 2023 2:41 am

But why are you advocating to keep Whatsapp. There’s other reasons to delete it. Not saying everyone should but it’s not like its an overall positive amazing thing

Either way, thanks for the article

Loshon Hara Spreader
September 24, 2023 11:12 am

Whatsapp is the #1 lesson hara spreader!
I didn’t need channels to know that whatsapp has always been social media!!!!!
School should be emailing or using text. Requiring whatsapp is like putting a loaded gun in our kids mouth and just waiting for it to go off!!!
Like what happened on a high school whatsapp this summer – IYKYK
Whatsapp is a cancer and should be cut out!!

loshon hara
Reply to  Loshon Hara Spreader
September 24, 2023 1:45 pm

Before whatsapp..text and email did a perfectly fine job spreading loshon hara. As did a regular phone call.
Whatever your main form of communication is, its all the same…its however you and others choose to use it.

Grateful we left
September 24, 2023 12:04 pm

Maybe I’m unrealistic. Maybe I’m old.
I embrace technology and help untechy seniors navigate the internet
If I can control myself from eating treif without issue I should be able to control my internet usage. Under 18 it is up to the parents ( not the school ) to put kosher filters up for their children
After that, if you can’t. Get a therapist not a filter. What’s app helps me connect with my friends but also work remotely! It’s a great source but nothing controls me unless I let it

nonsense
Reply to  Grateful we left
September 28, 2023 9:23 am

Would u bring treif food into ur house and then show control? Would u bring in a TV or movies and then expect control? Nonkosher includes not bringing it into your home.
And if you’re old, that helps but many of us are raising children BH and it is realistic to expect things to b challenging.

Who wrote this?
Reply to  Grateful we left
September 29, 2023 2:13 am

I have never heard anything so out of touch in quite a while.
Even if this somehow works for you (which tbh i heavily doubt it) if you ask any Mashpia or really anyone that’s lived in the world for more than 2 seconds they’re tell anyone to download a filter.

WhatsApp is ok
September 24, 2023 1:24 pm

If you don’t want to use the channels you could just not follow anyone and you won’t see anything and it will be the same old Whatsapp. I think I can control myself not to click on the things that are bad for me. Also Whatsapp has always been social media and channels doesn’t rly change it into more social media unless you start following people. So just don’t click on it and it’s the same exact thing as signal

yeshiva bochur
September 24, 2023 6:31 pm

As a person who’s experience both filters and non filters the WhatsApp channels offer nothing at all if the web is 100 percent the channels aren’t even 1% they have little to nothing but links to other things you can’t even use because of filters, everyone’s fussing over nothing

Deep fax.
Reply to  yeshiva bochur
September 26, 2023 10:18 am

Everyone is so outta touch.

Who wrote this?
Reply to  yeshiva bochur
September 28, 2023 7:46 pm

Like i said earlier channels just got started and the random shmo cant post yet. Give it a little time and channels is full on Twitter…

WhatsApp thoughts
September 25, 2023 2:52 am

We all have a choice! Do you want to use what’s app or do you want to get rid of WhatsApp? Up to you!

What are you taking about?
September 26, 2023 5:19 am

I’m. The only one who didn’t see it till now?
Honestly it’s nice to get a message from school or teacher but I have tons of whatsapp school groups that I don’t have time to follow, would like to see a Note -Paper Note 📝 like an olden days and my school bus at set time … pta is enough info

many filters block it
September 26, 2023 2:16 pm

mb smart blocks on android and apple
netspark blocks
gentech bocks
tag says says techloq and many others are working on it now

Who wrote this?
September 28, 2023 7:37 pm

Many filters don’t block channels.
Familylink (android built in filter) doesn’t and neither does Screen time (apple’s built in filter)

Who wrote this?
September 29, 2023 2:13 am

Honest opinion: i think in 10 years from now parents will be more on top of their kid’s devices bc they’ve seen first hand what goes down …

iPhone
September 29, 2023 2:18 am

In think the most flawe aspect of this article is that overlooking of the fact that the “filter that doesn’t share the same values” on the iphone trumps any 3rd party “TAG” by a mile in it’s protection….

Just about every filter on the market is bypass-able… except for “screentime”

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