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A Summer Health Danger That’s Largely Ignored

From the COLlive inbox: "I implore parents to speak up, to call the heads of the summer overnight camps, to speak with those running your bungalow colonies, and to beg them to spray for ticks." Full Story

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Thank you -- some advice please?
April 25, 2021 10:54 pm

please advise what we should be spraying?

Bug spray with deet
Reply to  Thank you -- some advice please?
April 26, 2021 1:48 pm

Bug spray with deet repels ticks, but it can only be sprayed on clothing

Leon Kohanbash
April 25, 2021 10:58 pm

Leon Kohanbash, NP specializes in Lyme disease diagnoses and treatment. Last I heard a few years back, he works at Parcare Health in Williamsburg on Park Ave

Very important article
April 25, 2021 11:01 pm

I had Lyme. BH my doctor found it early on. I know many people who had it for years before they were officially diagnosed with Lyme. It is very hard to detect and doesn’t always come out clearly on blood tests. People who aren’t treated right away can suffer with these symptoms and more for their entire lifetime.

April 25, 2021 11:29 pm

No matter how hard they try, it’s almost impossible to prevent them 100% hikes anywhere outside the sprayed area and same risk. Many parents might not want their kids around the chemicals sprayed too.

So spraying may or may not be PART of a solution. What can be done on an individual level as well, is to make a repellant and send it with your kids to camp to ward them off. There are oils that they dislike and can make a spray to use daily

Every substance is a chemical
Reply to  Solution
April 26, 2021 10:13 am

“Many parents might not want their kids around the chemicals sprayed too.”

This is absurd. Absolutly every substance on earth is composed of chemicals which are composed of atoms. It doesn’t matter if a repellant is a spray or appplied topically. What the author of this post is advocating is using prevention which has been demonstrated to be effective.

True, But Not Quite...
Reply to  Every substance is a chemical
April 26, 2021 11:22 am

Yes, every substance in the universe is technically a chemical. Yes, it’s foolish to be afraid of something just because it has a long and complicated name (dihydroxyacetone phosphate, anyone?). But what you’re implying is that there is no reason to be afraid of any chemicals. Forget about the word “chemical,” let’s call it “substance.” Some substances are good for you, some not. Usually, it depends on the dose. These sprays are likely fine and the benefits exceed the risks if used as directed, but of course it makes sense to educate yourself on potential hazards and take precautions to… Read more »

April 25, 2021 11:32 pm

My 10 year old son came home from camp this past summer and developed a fever 10 days later. The doctors checked for covid and strep and when he was negative for both they concluded it was viral. IT WASN’T!!! On the first day of Chol Hamoed my 10 year started complaining of chest pains. Hatzalahs EKG showed a heart rate of 29. He was in COMPLETE HEART BLOCK. It was only through open miracles that the worst didn’t materialize. For several nights he slept with an external pacemaker bedside in case of emergency and he wore defribulator pads as… Read more »

Thank you for putting this article
April 25, 2021 11:36 pm

Thank you. We spend thousands treating our son with lyme. The hardest part is how it affects the mental health of the child, they can’t attend school and you just try treatment after treatment and there is no help from any frum organizations. I actually found a goyishe organization to help a little. When is frum organizations stand up for us and help us. Mental health is so important and these children and parents have no support. It is a shame that if a child has yena machla they can get all the help needed but if you fall cahi… Read more »

Absolutely agreed
April 25, 2021 11:41 pm

Kol Hakovod for writing this.

Spray chemicals?
April 25, 2021 11:47 pm

What types of chemicals should they be spraying? We need more dangerous chemicals??? Stop with the hypercondria…

Thank you for speaking up!
April 25, 2021 11:48 pm

Had summer camps sprayed back in the day my life would probably be very different right now.

April 25, 2021 11:56 pm

Permetherin would be the spray of choice. But Chai for Lyme can give more guidance.

Important advise:
April 26, 2021 12:14 am

Everyone who has been outdoors should be checked thoroughly to see if a tick has “latched on” to them. This includes adults at bungalow colonies. If a tick is found it should be carefully removed & saved so that it can be tested to see if it carries Lyme disease. This is very SERIOUS & staff at camps & our local wonderful doctors need to put this way up on the radar !

April 26, 2021 12:37 am

I found a tick on my 10 week old baby upstate New York. Yes ticks fly/jump. My baby never touched the floor or grass. Thankfully we removed it right then using dish soap and a counter clockwise motion with tissue. This was because we found the tick within a few hours. If the tick would have been on for longer then a clean removal of the tick to test for Lyme disease would be necessary.

Thank you for sharing this!
April 26, 2021 1:17 am

Please COL, continue writing about this!
Could you please write about tick removal and sprays that we could purchase?

This is not a JOKE!!!!
April 26, 2021 7:57 am


our son came back from camp with LYME we didn’t know!!
With miracles his knee was saved after an infection.

Sakonas Nefoshos

Not spraying, CHECKING
April 26, 2021 9:31 am

Spraying adds horrible and harmful chemicals to our kids water and the air they breath.
1. Wear clothing that COVERS. Yes that means cover your legs!! (Tznius helps in this way!)
2. Teach your kids to CHECK themselves everyday! A tick found within 24- 36 hrs is the best.
3. Insist in a lyme disease test if you get sick after being in a country setting!!

April 26, 2021 10:06 am

What is Lyme disease? Lyme disease is an illness that can make you feel like you have the flu. It can also cause a rash, fever, or nerve, joint, or heart problems. People can get Lyme disease after being bitten by a tiny insect called a tick. When a certain type of tick bites you, it can transmit the germ that causes Lyme disease from its body to yours. But a tick can infect you only if it stays attached for at least a day and a half. The ticks that carry Lyme disease feed on deer and mice. They… Read more »

Save this community!
April 26, 2021 11:56 am

Thank you for taking the time to write on this important topic. My son has missed several years of school due to neuropsychological aspects of his missed lyme disease. Unfortunately it almost impossible for you to find every tick that has bitten you (my son had one on his private areas) and a person can’t see on their heads or backs.
Our community collectively spends our summers in tick endemic areas with overnight camp and the country.
It is IMPERATIVE that ch doctors take this more seriously. Physical and emotional lives are at stake!
Pikuach nefesh mamosh!

Education about ticks
April 26, 2021 1:45 pm

I grew up upstate where ticks are rampant and we spent our summers hiking and camping in the mountains. We always covered up and even tucked our socks into our pants in heavily wooded areas. Every night we checked our bodies. Repellents can help but are not a total preventative. Education is key, unfortunately I see way too many stories of people who are unfamiliar with the proper precautions as they are unused to these dangers.

Rabbi &Mrs.Stock
April 26, 2021 2:31 pm

At Camp chomeish we keep the grass short,spray the grounds before the girls come to camp,
We remind the girls to check themselves,
And daven that Hashem should watch over all his children like it says
לא ינום ולא ישן שומר ישראל
We hope that we all have a very healthy summer.

Reply to  Rabbi &Mrs.Stock
April 26, 2021 4:20 pm


Camp Chomeish
Reply to  Rabbi &Mrs.Stock
April 26, 2021 8:34 pm

Go Rabbi and Mrs Stock!!!
the best camp directors ever!!!

Pay attention
April 26, 2021 3:37 pm

Thank you to the person who wrote this article. This is a very important article and I hope it will increase the needed awareness of this problem. Overnight camps and those who spend time in the country have to be extremely careful with ticks.

May everyone have a safe and healthy summer!

i've had lyme disease twice...
April 26, 2021 4:06 pm

it’s not fun. we do daily tick-checks on our kids, but it still makes me nervous to go hiking, which used to be one of my favorite activities. 🙁