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“Horrible:” Rabbi Braun Condemns Bochurim’s Vandalism in 770

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madness
January 8, 2024 5:11 pm

This is pure insanity!

I think I have to agree!
Reply to  madness
January 8, 2024 7:48 pm

Perhaps driven from anguish over current events?

No excuse for this
Reply to  I think I have to agree!
January 9, 2024 10:33 am

not an excuse, they need to be an example due to current events not cause a chillul hashem

Dovid
Reply to  I think I have to agree!
January 9, 2024 5:28 pm

That’s a pitiful excuse

mf770
Reply to  madness
January 9, 2024 5:43 pm

Everyone should be reminded of 2 concepts right now. yetzer hara and Ahavas Yisrael be very carefull how we respond to things

770
Reply to  madness
January 10, 2024 2:29 am

Terrorist…. This group believes they can bring their own brand of justice here as they do in Israel. They are thugs, plain and simple that hid under the guise of their religion. More should had been arrested for the vandalism to 770. It’s absolutely shameful and disgusting.

"Another Dwelling Bites the Dust"
Reply to  madness
January 13, 2024 4:05 am

This situation paints a vivid picture of a lack of enforcement, indicating that existing laws may not be sufficient to curb such activities. It reflects a troubling reality where individuals feel they can act without restraint. The apparent negligence from agencies responsible for community protection is disheartening. One would expect legal consequences for causing such damage, yet the situation seems to be allowed to escalate. Furthermore, the presence of men drinking beer in the vicinity, with children around, adds another layer of concern. This entire episode, driven by the desire for another house, underscores the urgency for agencies to fulfill… Read more »

JAX
January 8, 2024 5:14 pm

This is astounding. Horrifying. I will never step foot in there again. They have defiled 770. One can imagine the rebbes face should he walk in and see the rubble.

770
Reply to  JAX
January 8, 2024 5:26 pm

770 is Beis Rabbenu and just because there are a few people who did this craziness doesn’t mean one should not step foot inside again! I hope you take back your words and you do walk into 770 again. If it’s not now Bezras Hashem when 770 is attached to the Bais Hamikdosh!

Jacob
Reply to  770
January 8, 2024 7:58 pm

Calm down buddy 770 isn’t being attached to the beis hamikdash

Learn a little
Reply to  Jacob
January 8, 2024 11:05 pm

It certainly is according the beis rebbeunu shbavel

Facts don't care about your feelings
Reply to  Jacob
January 9, 2024 4:56 pm

You do have the right to your opinion but that doesn’t make it true
Cause you know that the Rebbe (which actually knows ecad how on up there) disagrees with you
And he found it imposition rough to tell us

Soldier of The Rebbe
Reply to  770
January 8, 2024 10:32 pm

In this state 770 doesn’t deserve to be anywhere near the בית המקדש

Jax
Reply to  770
January 9, 2024 12:25 am

A few? A normal person can’t even daven there anymore.

דפקת את אגד
Reply to  JAX
January 8, 2024 5:26 pm

More space for the rest of us

Jax
Reply to  דפקת את אגד
January 9, 2024 12:26 am

Well you are locked out now!

Dave
Reply to  JAX
January 8, 2024 5:49 pm

you’re an idiot!
will you not go to the kosel because the various sonei yisroel who have been there?!

Speak nicely
Reply to  Dave
January 8, 2024 6:30 pm

Don’t call someone an idiot, explain nicely

Dave
Reply to  Dave
January 8, 2024 6:54 pm

I understand your feelings and I totally agree with you that he is being an immature person however comparing 770 to the KOTEL is completely improper and should not be done. In addition has the Rebbe expressed his esteemed opinion on the way that the gabbaim have tolerated this, and on the EXTREMELY IMMATURE BEHAVIOR of our highly esteemed bachurim; have they been reprimanded? This is a pure chillul Hashem and a chillul torah this is absolutely shameful

Jax
Reply to  Dave
January 9, 2024 12:27 am

How can you compare? This is mortifying and embarrassing. This is our own people. Not the “other”.

Well
Reply to  JAX
January 8, 2024 5:51 pm

The Greeks also defiled the Beis Hamikdash, and Hashem still accepted korbonos over there after.
You are making a mistake. קדושה לא זזה ממקומה.

History
Reply to  Well
January 8, 2024 9:08 pm

Perhaps the Greeks still remember Cyrene and Cyprus where Jews instigated the deaths for 460,000 men according to Cassius Dio of Rome.

Or perhaps…
Reply to  History
January 8, 2024 10:43 pm

…you’re buying into a blood libel. Documents from that time show that the Jews were being attacked, and did nothing more than defend themselves. Hadrian found them in the right (this was before he himself became an anti-Semite). See Doros Harishonim, vol. 3, pp. קצט and on.

Jax
Reply to  Well
January 9, 2024 12:29 am

The Greeks. Not the yidden. These are our own.

dont use the front entrance
Reply to  JAX
January 8, 2024 6:22 pm

you can enter through the tunnel next time

Jax
Reply to  dont use the front entrance
January 9, 2024 12:30 am

The irony that they are using tunnels like Hamas is lost on everyone here

Yid
Reply to  Jax
January 10, 2024 12:33 pm

Not on everyone! 😉

deport them
January 8, 2024 5:14 pm

Rescind their student visas.

Tzhal
Reply to  deport them
January 8, 2024 6:33 pm

Draft them

terrorists
Reply to  Tzhal
January 8, 2024 10:24 pm

The army wouldn’t take them!

goyim curiousity
Reply to  deport them
January 8, 2024 11:23 pm

what were u jews doing in those tunnels?

Dovid
Reply to  goyim curiousity
January 9, 2024 5:30 pm

No freaking clue that’s why it was getting filled. These guys are all nutjobs.

You know
Reply to  goyim curiousity
January 10, 2024 7:47 pm

You know what they were doing

Rescind your visa
Reply to  deport them
January 9, 2024 11:16 pm

They probably have more of an American citizenship than you. The ones without didn’t participate obviously. They’re not as stupid as you.

אין כל חדש תחת השמש
January 8, 2024 5:15 pm

There is nothing new under the sun

mr svenska
Reply to  אין כל חדש תחת השמש
January 9, 2024 4:09 pm

under the ground, though, is another story…

born and raised basically litvish
Reply to  mr svenska
January 9, 2024 11:17 pm

haha . nice. (but probably wrong. tachas hashemesh includes underground. it excludes above the shemesh)

???
January 8, 2024 5:15 pm

Do they honestly think the rebbe approves of this??

They didn't think about it
Reply to  ???
January 8, 2024 5:41 pm

It is a mistake to think that it crossed their minds to consider what the Rebbe’s opinion is on any matter.

young but got a dollar from the rebbe zt"l
Reply to  They didn't think about it
January 9, 2024 11:22 pm

do they have a (cult) leader telling them this is what the rebbe wants them to do?

young
Reply to  ???
January 9, 2024 11:20 pm

do they have a (cult) leader telling them what to do?

Send them back
January 8, 2024 5:16 pm

Send the bochrim back to Israel.

Chutzpah, PusteH Keilim
Reply to  Send them back
January 8, 2024 10:57 pm

send them all back to Israel, draft them into the army and they should fight Arabs with the same vengeance as they had to break the walls

Dovid
Reply to  Chutzpah, PusteH Keilim
January 9, 2024 5:31 pm

At least then they could still explore tunnels

Arrest and Deport.
January 8, 2024 5:17 pm

These are criminals

“Meshichist”
January 8, 2024 5:22 pm

Why are you calling them meshichist? I’m a meshichist and absolutely do not condone this one bit. Outrageous what these TZFATIM have done! No words

Mishechist
Reply to  “Meshichist”
January 8, 2024 6:06 pm

Same

Tzfatim??
Reply to  “Meshichist”
January 8, 2024 6:51 pm

Be careful with your wording!
It’s a shame how ppl have no clue that there are many yeshivas that come in for kvutzah, not only tzfas, and that in a big majority of cases, the ones causing all this garbage is NOT tzfatim but other more extreme yeshivas (be’er Sheva, rishon litziyon etc.) that are not affiliated with tzfas whatsoever!

The turm "Tzfatim" is very general
Reply to  “Meshichist”
January 8, 2024 6:59 pm

They aren’t really even tzfatim. Many people tend to lump all meshichistim in to one class of crazies, when in fact these bochurim are a very minor group that almost everyone disagrees with.

anonymous
Reply to  “Meshichist”
January 8, 2024 7:08 pm

I dont think they can even be called tzfatim. terrorist is more like it

True
Reply to  “Meshichist”
January 8, 2024 7:11 pm

Exactly, there’s a difference

Tzfati
Reply to  “Meshichist”
January 8, 2024 7:25 pm

Why are you calling them Tzfatim? I’m a Tzfati and absolutely do not condone this one bit. Outrageous what these Meshichists have done! No words

"Tzfati"
Reply to  “Meshichist”
January 8, 2024 7:28 pm

I would consider myself a meshichist and
a Tzfati and I condem what they did. Some people are just crazy.

"Tzfatim"
Reply to  “Meshichist”
January 8, 2024 7:47 pm

I went to Tzfat, this does not represent all tzfatim

Not mishechist
Reply to  “Meshichist”
January 8, 2024 8:28 pm

Exactly!! Same!!
Thank you for mentioning this!!

Who is in charge
Reply to  “Meshichist”
January 9, 2024 7:14 pm

Well who brought them in? If Aguch was in charge, we wouldn’t have these issues but there won’t be any expression of meshichist so the gabboim have the support

My proposal
January 8, 2024 5:22 pm

Charge them with vandalism, & send them back to Israel with a criminal record so they can’t enter the country again!

Essence of Reality and Beyond
Reply to  My proposal
January 8, 2024 8:52 pm

B”H

Some of them were american bochurim, I saw it myself.

So what
Reply to  Essence of Reality and Beyond
January 8, 2024 11:16 pm

Still. Whoever took part of this should go to where they belong. Not here in America. Al achas kamma vkamma in 770

ok so
Reply to  Essence of Reality and Beyond
January 9, 2024 12:46 pm

Then charge then here and let them face consequences and a criminal record

They are not 770 bochurim
January 8, 2024 5:24 pm

We all know who did this it was the tzefatim and not anyone else. Please report honestly

Ash
Reply to  They are not 770 bochurim
January 8, 2024 6:02 pm

you have no idea what are you talking about

Ploni Benploni
Reply to  Ash
January 8, 2024 9:58 pm

Oh? And who are you exactly? All the American 770 bochurim I know (and no doubt many of the Israeli ones as well) are horrified by this. They should have been evicted from 770 for their misbehavior long before it got to this point!

Meshichist
Reply to  They are not 770 bochurim
January 8, 2024 9:08 pm

By the way they are not TZFATIM, they are from RISHON LETZION that the majority of terrorists come from that yeshivah and the majority of those arrested were Americans

Great work.
January 8, 2024 5:25 pm

Keep it up. But do it with bitul. Not with yeshus you’ll get into trouble
Moshiach now

Bitul and yeshus?
Reply to  Great work.
January 8, 2024 7:21 pm

Shocking that people actually believe this is a holy cause.

What are you saying
Reply to  Great work.
January 8, 2024 11:47 pm

You realize that twitter and way too many other platforms are rapidly spreading the word that these tunnels are for child tr*fficking and kids are being forced to sleep on soiled mattresses? These rats need to be expelled because the chilul lubavitch goes WAY beyond the politics in 770.

they must go
Reply to  What are you saying
January 9, 2024 4:52 am

these madmen must be sent away the current climate is too dangerous for us the goy are spreading blood libel rumours about 770 it is making us unsafe and we have very little safety elsewhere in the world this is meshuga and risks us all

reply to What are you saying
Reply to  What are you saying
January 9, 2024 7:04 pm

😱

What are you even doing with it?
Reply to  Great work.
January 9, 2024 5:34 pm

Like seriously what are y’all doing in a useless tunnel?

An unprecedented chillul hashem spreading over the
Reply to  What are you even doing with it?
January 10, 2024 12:47 am

Didn’t you read the article? It appears their plan was to build the tunnel and then knock down the walls to force an expansion of the place

It’s 100% wrong.
January 8, 2024 5:28 pm

However, we are so embedded in this lousy dark seemingly never ending Golus that anything can happen! This shakes people up but now that it happened we might be able to take a small Horaah. Hashem break down these walls of Golus and build for us the Beis Hamikdosh Hashlishi IMMEDIATELY!

אמן!
Reply to  It’s 100% wrong.
January 8, 2024 7:51 pm

אמן!

Cousin
Reply to  It’s 100% wrong.
January 8, 2024 10:00 pm

Amen

sane human
January 8, 2024 5:28 pm

what about the foundation of the building?

Sorry to say, but...
Reply to  sane human
January 10, 2024 1:23 pm

That’s honestly the only reason the law is against this for safety reasons and taxes on permits and all that. But yes the safety of the infrastructure first and foremost. If these young people understood more of why we have these laws in place maybe they could have dismissed it as a bad idea and realized they could have hurt alot of innocents by thier own actions.

Chillul lubavitch
January 8, 2024 5:28 pm

I can’t believe my eyes!!!

Deport them!!!
January 8, 2024 5:29 pm

Cancel there visas immediately!

Heartbroken
January 8, 2024 5:29 pm

My precious 770 😭😭😭

I don't understand
January 8, 2024 5:30 pm

I don’t get it….
Is this what the rebbe wanted or smt? Who are these aggressive people who just tear down walls cuz they feel like it. Honestly I’m embarrassed, seems like a chillul hashem to me.

Deport them
January 8, 2024 5:31 pm

This is lawlessness

Massive Chillul Hashem
January 8, 2024 5:34 pm

We are not criminals. This is not how we go about our lives. There is a seder how things must be done. This is pure vandalism and destruction. These boys should be made to pay for the damage they caused.

Hefty price
Reply to  Massive Chillul Hashem
January 8, 2024 8:08 pm

Sadly, their families will pay by no one wanting shidduchim from those bochurim.

770 bochur (actually)
Reply to  Hefty price
January 9, 2024 12:25 am

I don’t think that is true this is considered normal in thier circles.

2 sides
January 8, 2024 5:37 pm

2 sides to every story, these brave bochurim keep 770 alive. learning day & night, can’t they have a place to host, sleep and learn. maybe this isn’t the way but they aren’t respected and valued by our community.

One has nothing to do with the other
Reply to  2 sides
January 8, 2024 5:56 pm

They have no right to do this whatsoever!

theres a point there...
Reply to  2 sides
January 8, 2024 6:06 pm

i agree that many of them keep seder, and all.
however this is a kind of ‘kana’us”.
if they would ask mashpieim about everything, it would be better.

Expend 770
Reply to  2 sides
January 8, 2024 7:13 pm

100%

u r crazy
Reply to  2 sides
January 8, 2024 7:23 pm

also between gaza and israel there are tw
o sides

17.
Reply to  2 sides
January 8, 2024 7:44 pm

no maybe about it

it is not the way. full stop

Does Hamas also have a "side"?!
Reply to  2 sides
January 8, 2024 8:30 pm

Yes, there are two sides to every story: the right side and the wrong side. 770 belongs to Aguch and Merkos. They bought the buildings, they constructed the shul, and the Rebbe fought to establish that they are the owners of their property and anyone who takes it without their permission is a thief, no matter what his yichus may be, even if he’s the Frierdiker Rebbe’s grandson, kal vachomer if he’s just some bochur from Tzfas with no shaychus here at all. These bochurim, like anyone else, are welcome to use 770 as it is meant to be used,… Read more »

I've been a Bochur in 770
Reply to  2 sides
January 8, 2024 8:34 pm

The ones that break the building, are not the ones that learn and use 770 properly.

Ploni Benploni
Reply to  I've been a Bochur in 770
January 8, 2024 10:02 pm

Exactly! They don’t even deserve to be referred to as “bochurim”, a name which implies being part of some yeshiva under hanhala, etc.

Ploni Benploni
Reply to  2 sides
January 8, 2024 10:01 pm

These “bochurim” who did this have never learnt a day in their life, certainly not in 770. Please don’t lump them in with regular (American) 770 bochurim and kvutza bochurim

Maybe 2 sides, but 1 side can definitely be wrong
Reply to  2 sides
January 9, 2024 8:04 am

There are always at least two sides, but that doesn’t mean both sides are right.

These people have obviously been learning the WRONG things.

They got it wrong
January 8, 2024 5:38 pm

It was to BUILD A WALL not break one lol

Funny
Reply to  They got it wrong
January 8, 2024 7:49 pm

The rebbe wanted to expand 770
And they want to expand 770.
It’s very nice to Criticize sitting at home commenting on your computer or phone. But on Tishri, when you want to davin in 770 you will feel like breaking a wall watching everyone sitting not doing enough to extend 770.

Faxxxxxxx
Reply to  Funny
January 9, 2024 10:24 pm

This guy is spitting fax. It is true the rebbe said to expand 770. Even though they didn’t do it the right way doesn’t mean their intentions were wrong. they should get punished true but anyone who thinks that this is the whole chabad is really uneducated and dumb.

Ploni
Reply to  Funny
January 13, 2024 8:28 pm

Does 770 mean nothing more to you than a place to stretch out your legs?!
How dare you try to justify this!

?????
Reply to  They got it wrong
January 8, 2024 8:08 pm

To build a wall?
Am I missing something

Lubavitch
January 8, 2024 5:39 pm

Yes! What if the Rebbe and all the Rabaim walk in to 770 out of the blue? Would they have a smile? Would they have Nachas? I mean come on, don’t we have any sense? What’s up with these nutters? Let them go back to Gaza. Let them fight Their own country, whyyyyyyyy come to our country and make trouble? Are these guys engineers? That they have permission FROM THE CITY to do all this garbage? Don’t they realize they’re just chasing people out of Chabad? What’s the Rosh and the the Head Rabaim doing about it? Yes! 770 should… Read more »

Mental illness
Reply to  Lubavitch
January 8, 2024 8:12 pm

They are surely having a mental health crisis and need serious medical help.

Stop being a SANAH YISROEL ( hater of Jewish peopl
Reply to  Lubavitch
January 8, 2024 9:21 pm

Because a few bochurim were brainwashed in your words “

Logic?
January 8, 2024 5:40 pm

I would like to hear an explanation for why someone thinks its normal to break 770 for the sake of expanding it by making tunnels ?

Hilul chabad
January 8, 2024 5:44 pm

This is beyond a hilul Lubavitch. Chutzpah to destroy the Rebbes shul like this.

Hashem Yerachem
January 8, 2024 5:44 pm

In Hayom Yom it discusses not just a frum yetser Hara…but even a chassidish yetser hara…and now we even have a mishichist yetser hara…All we now need is Moshiach

Wrong!
Reply to  Hashem Yerachem
January 8, 2024 6:11 pm

There is nothing chassidisher about this! It is mental illness

INSANITY
January 8, 2024 5:44 pm

BS”D.

The Administration of United Lubavitch Yeshiva as well as the “Gabboyim” must rescind visas of the perpetrators and correct this gross act of defiance immediately.

Anyone know
January 8, 2024 5:45 pm

Were any arrests made?

Essence of Reality and Beyond
Reply to  Anyone know
January 8, 2024 8:23 pm

B”H
The most recent news I heard about 20 minutes ago, about 10 arrests were made.

Yes
Reply to  Anyone know
January 8, 2024 8:31 pm

Yes, arrests we’re made

Send them to the army to fight for Israel
January 8, 2024 5:45 pm

Shame! Chilul Lubavitch!

chilul Hashem
Reply to  Send them to the army to fight for Israel
January 8, 2024 6:23 pm

It is a chilul Hashem.

Maybe not such a bad idea!
Reply to  Send them to the army to fight for Israel
January 8, 2024 8:00 pm

If they have so much seemingly active, extra hyper energy then they can use it better to defend their country and their Jewish brethren. Perhaps they’re not ready for a yeshiva environment yet? Don’t know.

terrorists
Reply to  Maybe not such a bad idea!
January 8, 2024 10:28 pm

They wouldn’t want them!

Other way around
Reply to  Maybe not such a bad idea!
January 9, 2024 7:18 pm

We need to be defended from them, not put them in charge of defending us

Deport
January 8, 2024 5:49 pm

Time for mass deportation

Trump
Reply to  Deport
January 8, 2024 6:37 pm

It will help with the illegal migration crisis

Good luck with that
Reply to  Deport
January 8, 2024 8:35 pm

NYC and US has people coming here who definitely have no visas so good luck

Ad mosai
January 8, 2024 5:51 pm

How much longer hashem!!

Get rid of the tzfatim!!
January 8, 2024 5:51 pm

All the disruptions start with them! If we stopped allowing them to be apart of 770, then maybe after a few years allow 5-6 at a time, then that might work.

Brilliant-use only female police officers
January 8, 2024 5:52 pm

Then the so called “frum” bochurim won’t allow themselves to be touched.

Ploni Benploni
Reply to  Brilliant-use only female police officers
January 8, 2024 10:04 pm

They couldn’t care less

ICE
January 8, 2024 5:55 pm

ABOUT TIME THAT VISAS GET SUSPENDED AND THEY GET OUT OF HERE!
it’s all the yeshivas fault, they fund and support this kind of terrorism

Arrest them once and for all
January 8, 2024 5:58 pm

Maybe then some normalcy will be restored in 770!!!

A Touch of Perspective!
January 8, 2024 5:59 pm

My heart goes out to the Rabbonim who will have to pasken how Torah wants us to deal with this. They will undoubtfully have to make some painful decisions.

For the rest of us, however, this is a great opportunity to practice “Dan Lechaf Zchus” and “Ahavas Yisroel”. Moshiach Tzeitin is a time to focus on achdus. Let us not get side-tracked from our ikur avoda, especially so close to Yud Shevat.

I agree with
Reply to  A Touch of Perspective!
January 8, 2024 6:25 pm

this comment

Beautifully expressed
Reply to  A Touch of Perspective!
January 8, 2024 8:03 pm

Thank you for the wholesome, healthy perspective!

achdus
Reply to  A Touch of Perspective!
January 8, 2024 8:11 pm

Achdus does not mean letting things pass that are not right.

terrorists
Reply to  A Touch of Perspective!
January 8, 2024 10:30 pm

They should have put a stop to this craziness from Gimmel Tammuz!

New low
January 8, 2024 6:00 pm

This is a new low.

In the 70s we could not eat satmar products because their rabbis were afraid of their kanoim and if so how can you then trust their Kashrus

How us this any different?

zichabad
January 8, 2024 6:02 pm

these bochrim think they own the world and own this place when will they stop…… moshiach

This is what happens when we ignore the Rebbe
January 8, 2024 6:03 pm

Of course this tunnel and the behaviour of these people is unacceptable.

But…

The Rebbe clearly told us that 770 should be expanded. Its been almost 30 years and we’ve done NOTHING.

This is what happens when egos – on BOTH sides, get in the way of fulfilling a simple directive of the Rebbe.

Stop making excuses
Reply to  This is what happens when we ignore the Rebbe
January 10, 2024 2:04 am

No seriously stop making excuses. This has become a national chillul hashem. There is no both sides. It’s just the morons who did it

It's not an excuse.
Reply to  Stop making excuses
January 10, 2024 1:49 pm

It’s not an excuse. It’s called addressing not just the symptom but also the cause. It’s about being honest with ourselves. And the truth is the status quo of division in chabad is NOT ok.

Resident
January 8, 2024 6:04 pm

These People need to be deported !!!!!!!!!!For once and for all! This is not Mesira!

New Gaboim
January 8, 2024 6:06 pm

Hold the Gaboim accountable, they haven’t had a grip on this and it has reached its breaking point.

We need new Gaboim who can control the situation

Yes
Reply to  New Gaboim
January 8, 2024 6:34 pm

100 000 000 0000 %%%%%%

It depends
Reply to  New Gaboim
January 8, 2024 6:45 pm

Yes, gaboim need to run a shul. However, they are working with Tzfatim who are going to do whatever they want. The only way to fix this situation is to deport every single person involved. We don’t want them in CH. they are not Lubavitcher.

Ploni Benploni
Reply to  It depends
January 8, 2024 10:05 pm

If that’s what it takes, then that’s what should be done!

my thoughts exactly
Reply to  It depends
January 9, 2024 9:04 pm

YES

Good point!
Reply to  New Gaboim
January 8, 2024 8:15 pm

AGREED

Umm
January 8, 2024 6:08 pm

I feel so unsafe now!
I’m scarred to go back to Kingston side once it iyH reopens

This is not Mashichist
January 8, 2024 6:09 pm

This is beyond crazy and not close to the category of Meshichist. These are crazy people that belong behind bars. Unfortunately they do it in the name if “Rebbe”

Go back to chovevei
January 8, 2024 6:09 pm

It’s long past time to kick kevutza out of 770. Nobody wants them there, they only came to 770 after gimmel tammuz (when as we know everything changed, at least according to the tzfatim). Obv many of them are good bochurim, but let them find a different place to learn and all the druggies and mentally ill bochurim won’t have any excuse to be in 770 destroying the place

Heartbreaking
Reply to  Go back to chovevei
January 8, 2024 10:05 pm

What a cruel thing to say about many hundreds of upstanding, outstanding bochurim who have come from that zal. May my family never be sullied to marry into the likes of yours.

YOU WISH
Reply to  Go back to chovevei
January 8, 2024 11:33 pm

Chovevei will let them in …

Go back
Reply to  Go back to chovevei
January 9, 2024 1:13 am

Sorry, but you’re so wrong. Kevutza has been for a long time. Only those criminals involved, should be booked and shipped out with no right to come back here

next they will dig a tunnel at the
January 8, 2024 6:17 pm

Next these unterveltnicks will build a tunnel at the Ohel so they can have yechidus
this is totally unacceptable
I am embarrassed for the Rebbe

Weird
Reply to  next they will dig a tunnel at the
January 8, 2024 10:33 pm

but strangely a bit funny

Random guy
January 8, 2024 6:17 pm

Thank you very much to colive for posting this important news story and not pretending nothing happened just to make chabad look good. The public needs to know the reality of what happens in 770 the only way that positive changes can happen in 770 and chabad is if the public is fully informed and incidents like this and the egg throwing is published and not swept under the rug to avoid making a chillul chabad. It is a bigger chillul chabad to not post anything than it is to post it

???
Reply to  Random guy
January 9, 2024 12:06 am

Not quite what the Rebbe wanted, the rebbe did not want “CHILUL HASHEM NEWS” published in the papers.

no accident
January 8, 2024 6:19 pm

Everything that happens especially concerning the house of nessi doreinu 770 (even if it appears to be negative) is all bashert! So now all we have to do is figure out how it’s connected to the geula with moshiach right here and now?

Big Ben
January 8, 2024 6:20 pm

Same seats!!

David
January 8, 2024 6:20 pm

Why not build it with permits and proper construction workers, so as not to cause a hazard for those using it? I don’t understand. There needs to be order and respect for leaders of the institution.

A proud Lubavitcher girl
January 8, 2024 6:27 pm

I am so ______ with all of this. I don’t know the emotion I am feeling. But I feel in a way embarrassed that this is where something that I stand for is now being ripped apart. I am embarrassed that police have to see us – the Chabad people fighting, and have to step in for this. I am embarassed that Chabad has a split and the way our elder Rabbonim are treated. Before everything comes Frumkeit and being a Mentch, and this sure doesn’t show me that. I am sad. This is frustrating and really nebach! Hashem please… Read more »

So embarrassing
January 8, 2024 6:27 pm

I’m so embarrassed to say that I’m Lubavitch.
Such a shame.
Such a chillel hashem.
We’re so much better than this.
An embarrassment.
Ad Moti?

We must check where they come from
Reply to  So embarrassing
January 9, 2024 7:28 am

I’m so proud to say I’m Lubavitch . These hooligans don’t represent anything about Chabad

Painful
January 8, 2024 6:28 pm

It really hurts to see this balagan

Thank you
January 8, 2024 6:32 pm

The Rebbe wants 770 to be expanded. Finally it is getting done.
Help them do it safely. Why stop them?

Ploni Benploni
Reply to  Thank you
January 8, 2024 10:08 pm

I’m sure you also believe “the rebbe” wants people who walk into the shvil to be beaten up, right? Because it’s the same wackos who did this who do that, and with the same justification

I am so upset by this
January 8, 2024 6:38 pm

It’s not only Yudel Krinsky that should be bear the weight of having to fight against this. Every Rav and every person who considers themselves a Chossid — even a meshichist — needs to link arms and completely denounce this insanity. There needs to be a safe and respectful and respectable ‘hanhala’ of 770. There should be no yechi signs and yechi declarations; for one things leads to the next I for one am pro yechi. But not the way it’s plastered on the walls and screamed 7 times a day. It emboldens the yechi bochurim to reign unsupervised. Again,… Read more »

Disgrace
January 8, 2024 6:40 pm

They should all be arrested for trespassing and destruction of property

Expand 770
January 8, 2024 6:46 pm

This is the only way the antis will learn. It’s about time these guys step up and do what’s needed for the bais rabenu.

Not all of them are Israeli
January 8, 2024 6:50 pm

Some are Canadian
Some are American

Arrests need to be made
Some need to get deported
Some need a Restraining order

But the gabooim don’t have what it takes to do it

None
Reply to  Not all of them are Israeli
January 8, 2024 11:35 pm

Is a big word. Use with caution.

Embarrasing
January 8, 2024 6:55 pm

Disgusting.

Should all be deported back to Israel.
January 8, 2024 7:12 pm

Send them back. They can use their energy fighting the Arabs.

These bochurim should join the IDF
January 8, 2024 7:12 pm

They seem like experts with breaking down walls and building tunnels, they would do a great job in the IDF. We need more guys like them.

No
Reply to  These bochurim should join the IDF
January 8, 2024 11:44 pm

No they should not. The soldiers in the IDF are respectful young men.

angry
January 8, 2024 7:12 pm

How did all the bystanders let this happen?! THis is 770. How can we allow anyone to touch even one stone in it, let alone breach a whole wall? These bochurim need to be arrested and deported. Enough of this chaos.

If the current gaboim can’t control it it’s time for new ones.

מהרסיך ומחרביך ממך יצאו
January 8, 2024 7:17 pm

מהרסיך ומחרביך ממך יצאו
חילול ה’ הכי נורא ואיום בתוך ארמון המלך עצמה
‘כמו צלם בהיכל ה
ממש מושפעי חמ”ס

Br girl
January 8, 2024 7:19 pm

For Everyone freaking out over a vid we have more problems to deal with

BR GIRL
Reply to  Br girl
January 9, 2024 12:37 am

I agree..!!
and about the article, like what were these people thinking like I’m honestly confused where their brains were at that moment🤦‍♀️

BR Girl
Reply to  BR GIRL
January 9, 2024 1:53 am

We’re Beis Rivkah Girls, of course we’re gonna wonder what the bochurim were thinking

Cancel their visas
January 8, 2024 7:21 pm

Every one of those Bochurim fighting with police should have their visas cancelled.

Stop the cult
January 8, 2024 7:22 pm

They should of stopped this cult along time ago

A New Reality for 770 after January 8
January 8, 2024 7:24 pm

9/11 became a new reality for America!
October 7 became the new reality for Eretz Yisroel!
January 8 became the new reality for 770!

Just as America would not tolerate al-Qaeda after 9/11
and Eretz Yisroel would not tolerate Hamas after October 7
Lubavitch must not tolerate this after January 8. 770 will no longer be hijacked by these wild young perei adom any longer. 770 must be taken back by the senior Anash of Crown Heights and every Israeli bochur must be fully vetted before being allowed to enter 770.

David
Reply to  A New Reality for 770 after January 8
January 8, 2024 11:26 pm

I totally agree that they were out of bounds and behaved unacceptably. Disagree with the provinicialism, and I think it is firmly against what the last rebbe would have wanted. This is not “9/11” or “October 7.” It is reckless and lawless behavior.

Dates
Reply to  A New Reality for 770 after January 8
January 9, 2024 7:23 pm

It’s more like Jan 6..
And just days apart

UnFaxxxxxxx
Reply to  Dates
January 9, 2024 10:29 pm

January 6th was a vote this isn’t

UnFaxxxxxxx
Reply to  Dates
January 9, 2024 10:29 pm

Vort not vote

Levi Jacobson is proud
January 8, 2024 7:27 pm

Expand 770 movement is bearing fruit

Plain Motzi Shem Ra
Reply to  Levi Jacobson is proud
January 8, 2024 11:36 pm

He has nothing to do with this.

Goodbye Gabayim
January 8, 2024 7:37 pm

The Gabayim who endorsed this vildkeit should be forced to resign, or get charged as accessories to vandalism.

Confused
Reply to  Goodbye Gabayim
January 9, 2024 1:05 am

Which Gabaaim endorsed this behavior??

How
Reply to  Goodbye Gabayim
January 9, 2024 7:25 pm

They have money and how can they be charged with vandalism of what is considered to be their own place

It's The Yeshivas Fault !!!
January 8, 2024 7:40 pm

The Hanhalah of the yeshiva has to take responsibility for this. They have to be accountable for who they let in yeshiva. It’s not enough that they don’t contribute to the expenses and upkeep of the shul, they let their boys run rampant without consequence. The Hanhalah is only concerned about their positions and paychecks, but shirk from the responsibility of managing the Bochurim. Before כ”ז אדר Kevutzah was not in 770, they were at Chovevei. Let them go back to where they came from. They took over the shul leaving no place for minyanim. They hang out all night… Read more »

Ploni Benploni
Reply to  It's The Yeshivas Fault !!!
January 8, 2024 10:11 pm

Most of these meshugoim are not part of the yeshiva either. Just because they happen to not be married doesn’t make them “bochurim” in the sense of being under hanholo

אמן!
Reply to  It's The Yeshivas Fault !!!
January 8, 2024 10:40 pm

Yasher Choach!!

When the inmates run the asylum
January 8, 2024 7:43 pm

How sad & infuriating has this become.
The “Gabboim” have let (and encouraged) this situation fester, in which now the literal physical destruction of 770, is being done by their group of bochurim. If this isn’t the last straw for Merkos/Agu”ch to legally take ownership, than nothing will.
אוֹי מֶה הָיָה לָנוּ
ph

Jan 6 reenactment
January 8, 2024 7:43 pm

Isru Chag

Eli M
January 8, 2024 7:44 pm

770 has looked like a slum for the past 3 decades. Maybe this is a sign from Hashem to fix the place up and make it look nice like every other large shul.

Non Lubavitch chosud
January 8, 2024 7:44 pm

I am appalled by this outright chilul Hashem, it’s embarrassing when even the non Jewish police observe such appalling behavior and a huge chiul hashke for the whole Jewish world potentially alienating secualr jews!!

Disgusting arrogant
January 8, 2024 7:45 pm

These tzfati bochurim are not normal and mentally ill
They have no right to be in 770 and out community
To have the chutzpah to destroy the Rebbe’s shul is disgusting.
If I was there, I would throw something at them and attack them.

Tunnel Vision
January 8, 2024 7:47 pm

If they want tunnels, send them to Gaza!

Pure insanity on all levels — including practical. Now every rat in town will come running through 770.

Oy bashefer!!!
January 8, 2024 7:57 pm

I no longer feel safe in my own home (aka 770)

Extremism!!
January 8, 2024 7:57 pm

This is what extremism looks like and its terrible!! What a chillul Hashem! The police should be focusing their efforts on protecting our community and instead and have waste time on garbage like this. Absurd beyond belief. Send these bochurim back to Israel and make them go fight in the Gaza tunnels. Maybe it will make real men out of them.

Time for…
January 8, 2024 8:03 pm

Merkos/Agu”ch to finally do some דידן נצח v2.0 action!

It all started with the שביל above the ground in 7
January 8, 2024 8:03 pm

This Terrorisms began after ג תמוז and was left unchecked.the הנהלה,רבנים,גבאים,are all responsible.ban them them for life from the usa.

Who else is tired?
January 8, 2024 8:04 pm

I’m not saying this to be purely pessimistic, just how many times has this happened how many times have you opened whatsapp and seen another fight or another situation of vandalism or lack of care for 770, the chassidim and ultimately The Rebbe, are we not just so tired of being Lubavitchers under siege not feeling welcomed into 770, the levels this is reaching are only going to rise, only going to get worse, but then again what can we do? What did we do before? Complain write comments, peoples statuses, family whatsapps are filled with all of this stuff… Read more »

Oh so there ARE police in CH after all??
January 8, 2024 8:04 pm

How very present and on the job they seem to be! It must be some coincidence that this is not the case when Jews in our community are assaulted, robbed, burglarized or harassed by others over the past decades. But at least in THIS CASE they are all to willing to arrest perpetrators. Yep, must be some coincidence.

tzfatim
January 8, 2024 8:05 pm

get the tzfatim out of 770

Chabad
January 8, 2024 8:08 pm

With the recent events at 770, it’s evident that a significant change is needed. Time to repurpose it through a gut renovation into a meaningful Jewish Torah center, complete with shuls and bais medrash

Gabbi fault. They let the place run wild
January 8, 2024 8:11 pm

100% madness and the blame in squarley on the head of Gabbim for letting this go on. All involved should be removed from the smicha program for a year. This is not a joke but glad they fianally ripped down the Yechi sign………..

Gabboim mia
Reply to  Gabbi fault. They let the place run wild
January 10, 2024 11:31 am

No elections for Gabboim for how many years already? Is it fifteen?
That’s why there is no accountability.
New Gabboim are needed asap. But fairly ELECTED by ALL the members of the community eligible to vote.

Absolutely Insane
January 8, 2024 8:12 pm

This is beyond insane. Someone must do something about it. It must be stopped once and for all.

I also agree with some of the comments above. Just like we don’t appreciate the leftist Israeli media reporting on a few meshugoim and painting it as though it reflects on all the charedim, so too you should report this more honestly. Meshechistim don’t condone this at all. It’s a very small minority of a specific type. Honest reporting matters!

Exactly
Reply to  Absolutely Insane
January 9, 2024 1:32 am

💯 tzfatim, not meshechistim

Instead of us bashing them let's set an example
January 8, 2024 8:13 pm

Instead of us bashing them, let’s set an example. Look, I am not here to defend their actions. If anything, my stomach dropped just by the sight of it! But we must remember what destroyed the previous Beit Hamikdash!!! EVERYONE! Listen to yourselves! Full of hate and anger! The Rebbe said himself, anger is compared to idol worship! We must come all together and pray! Pray for Moshiach! And we must forgive. We have to keep in mind Hashem! The King of all kings has a plan, and it is overall HIS will! If it was not meant to be,… Read more »

Excellent
Reply to  Instead of us bashing them let's set an example
January 8, 2024 10:51 pm

Thanks for this clarity

What an amazing chilul Hashem!
January 8, 2024 8:16 pm

First they dig the tunnels, then they break the walls in 770, from one chilul Hashem to the next takes real talent!

Kaparos
January 8, 2024 8:19 pm

When you do Kaparos on President Street, this is what your are supporting!!

Eye on the goal
January 8, 2024 8:27 pm

If you can’t sit and learn, enlist in the IDF. As an Israeli (or any Jew) either contribute to the war efforts with your Torah learning or go to Israel to fight.

Can we please get proper security in 770
January 8, 2024 8:31 pm

Imh

There already is
Reply to  Can we please get proper security in 770
January 9, 2024 1:13 am

Hashem and the Rebbe are the security

Sorry, no
Reply to  There already is
January 9, 2024 8:03 am

That’s not proper Hishtadlus

offline
January 8, 2024 8:41 pm

When going onto 770 live, the feed is nowhere to be found. Coincidence? I think not.

Where’s everybody?
January 8, 2024 8:53 pm

Just curious where is shomrim, shmira, and other shmendriks? Where they busy putting new shining strobe lights on their cars, or printing park-anywhere-for-groceries cards for 24?

These too are Hashem's children
January 8, 2024 8:56 pm

Let’s have rachmanus. We are taught to have Ahavas Yisrael. If you know them, maybe it would help them to show some love and understanding.

I’m sorry for the pain and discomfort each of you feels by having the shul damaged. We can look here and see only negative. Or, we can take what happened here and establish what it is we’re seeing in each of ourselves as individuals that likewise needs to be worked on.

Cult members
January 8, 2024 9:02 pm

These people are cult members. They need to be removed, deprogrammed, probably need drug addiction therapy, and the people telling them what todo need to be removed from every community.

Embarrassing
January 8, 2024 9:05 pm

This is is so embarrassing! I live in a litvish community and I am so embarrassed that they’ll see this and ask me questions like why should I say? Huge chilul Lubavitch

Embarass
Reply to  Embarrassing
January 11, 2024 6:02 am

First thing this is completely one disgusting however in Ponevizh there was actual violence against the rabbeim…. And the fights are much worse maybe just point it out to them

Lets strengthen our Ahavas Yisroel
January 8, 2024 9:15 pm

We are on the cusps of Moshiach. The Yetzer Harah is trying with all his might to cause machlokes. There are challenges, and big mistakes were made, but let’s try to find ways to bring each other closer together, win the war on Galus, and bring Moshiach. Name-calling and using derogatory terms don’t help. Every Yid has the strength to bring positivity to their daled amos as well as far out. Let’s try and focus on that. Let’s do this, we got this! PLEASE!! Moshiach Now!! Ad Mossai!!

A wall breaker
January 8, 2024 9:16 pm

Guys I just wanted to expand 770, I had such mesiras nefesh and you guys are all criticizing me

Don’t worry
Reply to  A wall breaker
January 8, 2024 10:54 pm

I support

@wallbreaker
Reply to  A wall breaker
January 8, 2024 11:30 pm

😂

Haha
Reply to  A wall breaker
January 9, 2024 1:10 am

A real wall breaker wouldn’t have such good English 😉

Roshey are missing :-(
January 8, 2024 9:39 pm

This is what happens in a vacuum of authority, power, and responsibility.
All the gabboim should resign! Their mashpiim should resign. The hangolo of the yeshiva should be taken accountable. The “old guard” should finally retire and let the younger generations, presumable more in touch with the reality, run the show!

And the most important, Chabad should stop this stupid BS politics!

Visitor
January 8, 2024 9:45 pm

Just 2 days ago we had the 3rd anniversary for the Insurrection, and now this, terrible

Where is Beis Din & Shmira? Where thier parents?
January 8, 2024 10:12 pm

Why to put it in a public and shame all of us?
Deal with them one by one, all on video recording…. call allow them to put all back!!!

Why is the police so useless?
January 8, 2024 10:31 pm

They were literally standing by watching while bachurim were smashing walls. They only started arresting the bachurim who remained in the tunnel. Why didn’t they intervene as soon as the vandalism started?

???
Reply to  Why is the police so useless?
January 9, 2024 8:10 am

Why isn’t a community which is used to policing themselves ACTUALLY policing themselves? Don’t blame this on the police.

Insane
January 8, 2024 10:39 pm

Israel at war, soldiers fighting for our survival, anti-Semitism around the world… and we still need to watch these vandals doing a complete chilul Hashem in the Rebbe’s house/shul? As if we didn’t have enough problems… soooo 😢

Insane
January 8, 2024 10:39 pm

Israel at war, soldiers fighting for our survival, anti-Semitism around the world… and we still need to watch these vandals doing a complete chilul Hashem in the Rebbe’s house/shul? As if we didn’t have enough problems.

Gevald, Gevald.
January 8, 2024 10:42 pm

B”H
I DONT BLAME THESE kids for their behavior, I blame the people & institutions that raised them namely the yeshiva of tzfas. It’s time the yeshiva and its staff should be condemned by the RABONIM of the broader Lubavitcher community.
Either the yeshiva should change the way they educate their students or they should closdown.
Mesymim betov HASHEM YERACHEM.

Yossel
January 8, 2024 10:45 pm

Crazy Mishugass! When will we learn to get along with each other and not destroy, but build together??!!?? Don’t we want Moshiach to come??

Think!!!
January 8, 2024 10:47 pm

Think about it for a second if the rebbe went out and said that we need to expand 770 this would be all the bachurim…,. I agree they did something terrible but think for a second the rebbe spoke many times about expand 770 and although they did it in a very bad way not necessarily what there doing is 100% wrong

Great idea
January 8, 2024 11:10 pm

B”H
Brothers your all not being nice to each other therefore thise not being nice are also destroying in a pnimi way
Ps please dont move to florida unless you are on shluchus

@wallbreaker
January 8, 2024 11:32 pm

There’s a time for jokes but I don’t think this is it
Funny, but wrong time

Tachlis- just let the Rebbe come and tell us how to expand 770 under his supervision so none of this craziness will happen

Gutte nacht
Moshaich now!

Maybe 2 sides, but 1 side can definitely be wrong
Reply to  @wallbreaker
January 9, 2024 8:09 am

So, you’re in essence praising their illegal destructive chaos as a means to an end. Disgusting.

Better than nothing
Reply to  Maybe 2 sides, but 1 side can definitely be wrong
January 10, 2024 6:34 pm

B”H

If they hadn’t have done what they did, then how else would you suggest we get things moving, past the status quo?

REFUA SHELEIME
January 9, 2024 12:37 am

Plz get well soon

out of control
January 9, 2024 1:22 am

Oy Vey

CHASSIDIM EIN MISHPACHA NO MATTER WHAT.
January 9, 2024 1:26 am

A part of me feels extremely embarrassed and is shocked by this outrageous behavior . Another part of me feels sorry for these young boys who had to be publicly humiliated being dragged out of 770 with the cops . At the end of the day we are one family . We are United now more than ever , not to take away from the fact that these boys should 1000% be held accountable for their actions. We all know 770 isn’t a safe place for our children . Rules must be set in place and rabbanim must be in… Read more »

Frustration
January 9, 2024 1:36 am

Why were these thugs not stopped? I watched in disbelief how they were allowed to desecrate the shul. This is a very sad spectacle.

A few points
January 9, 2024 1:43 am

First of all they’re tzfatim, not meshechistim. There’s a big difference. Col needs to get it right. Also the tzfatim have to be dealt with once and for all This is a huge chillul Lubavitch, and chillul Hashem, this has spread all over, it’s a disgrace to Lubavitch. The world needs to know that’s not who we are. Besides for that, there’s damage to the shul, tons of bittul Torah. I don’t think the Rebbe would be happy. As painful as this whole thing is, hopefully there will be good results to come out of this. Hopefully 770 will be… Read more »

Nothing to see here.