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    Force will never work
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    Force will never work

    It’s sad that the Chabad community is being blinded by the pressure from the cdc. Which has been proven to manipulate facts and data to increase sales for pharmaceutical companies. How many people need to die and be harmed from vaccines until people will recognize the truth of vaccines. When people just follow what they are told without knowing, disaster will strike. When government controls everything and rights are taken away. You will have another holocaust or worse.

    Unbelievable
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    Unbelievable

    …how many people will need to die from previously ERADICATED diseases before you start vaccinating your child? Even if 1 in 1,000 people has an allergic reaction to a vaccine – and 1 in 1,000,000 dies from a vaccine – that is NOTHING compared to the death, destruction, and crippling caused by the diseases these vaccines PREVENT. Your view is horrifying. Do you know how many children and adults needed to be placed in “iron lungs” during polio outbreaks? How many were killed, or crippled for life? Is it time to buy stock in iron lungs again? My great-grandfather lost… Read more »

    Details
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    Details

    It’s important not to lump all vaccines together and treat each one separately. Let’s talk about measles vs the MMR. The truth is, bottom line, the absolute risk is probably very low from either – though the risk from disease is more known. The measles is not the Spanish flu, or polio. It was a common childhood disease that 100% of kids got by age 15 before vaccine was introduced in 1963 in US. In other developed countries the vaccine was introduced much later, because the need was very much questioned. The fatality rate in the 10 years prior to… Read more »

    Fatality rate
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    Fatality rate

    “The fatality rate in the 10 years prior to vaccine introduction was about 1/10,000”

    Today with good medicine the fatality rate is about 1/1000 to 1/2000. Israel has had about 3400 cases of measles in the year, and has had 2 deaths. That is 1 death in 1600.

    Where are you getting your numbers from? Some antivaxxer website on the internet?

    100% of kids did NOT get measles by age 15
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    100% of kids did NOT get measles by age 15

    This lie has been posted in another measles thread here. I WAS BORN IN 1948 AND I NEVER GOT MEASLES. I was required by an employer to get the vaccine at approximately age 50.

    The truth should not hurt
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    The truth should not hurt

    The diseases where on a steady down well before the vaccines for the diseases came out please do your home work.

    Agree,
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    Agree,

    Clearly science is behind with this. Since when is science the ultimate? It’s a work in progress. If someone’s child became autistic or other bad reaction within hours of a vaccine, they don’t need science or doctors to tell them there’s no link. They’ve seen it and experienced it. So when countless families are reporting negative side effects, and they’re reactions are being ignored than obviously these researchers are picking and choosing which data they’d like to include. Some of us actually believe real life over ‘science’. And btw.i do vaccinate but fully support the right to choose, and the… Read more »

    Problem not with science but with application
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    Problem not with science but with application

    There actually is plenty of science which gives a more nuanced view on vaccine risks and benefits, if not the majority of evidence beginning to be available now. The issue isn’t a problem with science per se, rather with the way medicine is administered in the US today. Most low level doctors like pediatricians, known next to nothing about this, have not studied anything about vaccines in medical school more than how to give one and to memorize the schedule. They were not taught about reactions, the mechanisms much of which is still unknown, how to report an injury etc.… Read more »

    Anonymous
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    Anonymous

    > If someone’s child became autistic or other bad reaction within hours of a vaccine, they don’t need science or doctors to tell them there’s no link. Autism? Seriously? NO CHILD HAS EVER “BECOME AUTISTIC” WITHIN HOURS OF A VACCINE. Autism is hard to diagnose before 24 months, symptoms often surface between 12 and 18 months. And, yes, that is when most babies get vaccinated. It is also when they are learning to walk, talk, and eat a variety of foods. By your “logic” any of those could be the autism link. Before you spout dangerous nonsense, understand the difference… Read more »

    Do your home work
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    Do your home work

    Its funny that most people who wish to vaccinate their kids have no idea what in actually in the shots but those who choose not to know very well what is in them.

    Yes
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    Yes

    So since you don’t know them they don’t exist? Yes, many children within hours or days have changed or reacted negatively, and some permanently. If you don’t personally know any, thank Hashem that your family isn’t prone but unfortunately not everyone is so lucky, and to declare it never happened makes their pain all the greater. Let’s open our eyes and realize that some people are suffering from vaccines and there is another side to this. And do we honestly expect the researchers who are part of the pharmaceutical companies, after years of vouching for it’s safety, to come out… Read more »

    Money talks
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    Money talks

    I’m not sure about all the science behind it but I do know that lots and lots of money is behind all this.

    You are a rodef, plain and simple
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    You are a rodef, plain and simple

    People die and are harmed by measles and other such diseases at far greater rates than from vaccinations. You are the one who’s blinded by junk science, and your attitude is what’s brought about the current measles outbreak. And it is an utter chutzpah for you to use the deaths of Jews al kiddush Hashem in the Holocaust to push your agenda.

    Stop, just stop!
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    Stop, just stop!

    Stop getting *facts* from Facebook, memes, long debunked myths, random “experts”, and anyone without a science and medical background. You’re hurting innocent victims!

    open your eyes
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    open your eyes

    Its funny that most people who wish to vaccinate their kids have no idea what in actually in the shots but those who choose not to know very well what is in them.

    Correction
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    Correction

    How many people need to die and be harmed from *measles and other vaccine preventable diseases* until people will recognize the truth of vaccines.

    FTFY

    odd
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    odd

    If vaccines “prevent””diseases how do my unvaccsed kids harm yours?

    Anonymous
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    Anonymous

    Really? Pithy one liners? Ok, I’ll bite … Because there are kids and those with compromised immune systems who can’t be vaccinated and who would be at great risk if infected.

    Some vaccinated kids rely on herd protection
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    Some vaccinated kids rely on herd protection

    Because with some children who have been vaccinated, the immunity don’t “take” in their body and they are therefore not fully protected. These kids need to rely on the herd protection of their peers who have been vaccinated and are immune. If *your* child isn’t vaccinated and catches a disease, unfortunately a child who *was* vaccinated but relies on herd protection is now vulnerable to disease from your unvaccinated child.

    How?
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    How?

    1. Babies who have not reached the age of vaccination are vulnerable.
    2. People with compromised immune systems are vulnerable.
    3. Pregnant women are vulnerable.

    Stay strong
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    Stay strong

    Right on its sad that many people are def to your words.

    The Rebbe was pro vaccine
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    The Rebbe was pro vaccine

    How can you claim to be Chabad when the the Rebbe was pro-vaccine on multiple occasions? The Rebbe was aware of vaccine risk yet still strongly advised to vaccinate. Are you better informed than the Rebbe on this topic?

    Two sides to every coin
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    Two sides to every coin

    I do give vaccines to my kids. However I’d like to point out that after doing proper research I discovered that it’s not that simple as what we are being told by our local professionals. There is much more info that everyone should know before making any statement anti or pro vaccines. Iam not saying my opinion.. it’s stupid to say a opioid on your own. But do your self a favor and do the proper research. You will be surprised to discover a ton of info that was never revealed to you before…. Don’t be dumb and believe the… Read more »

    Seek the truth
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    Seek the truth

    For those who want to find true statistics from real life people. Go to vaers.hhs.gov see for yourself how many families and peoples lives have been destroyed by vaccines. And then try to tell everyone that vaccines are safe. Let vaccine companies have responsibility like any other manufacturer that supply products to the public. Let them have the same consequences for giving a life endangering product to the public. At this point “They cant be sued”.No one can enforce them to do the studies needed to ensure vaccines are safe. People will always choose to do what is safe for… Read more »

    Are you serious?
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    Are you serious?

    Should we be taking advice from smart people like you who “know” better then scientists who were in school for years and years and dedicate their lives to this? You know best because you’ve read a couple articles or books? Meanwhile you don’t even know the correct usage of the word their vs there… Shows how smart these antivaxxers must be. Saying herd immunity is a hoax is literally one of the silliest ideas I have heard regarding vaccinations. I won’t say there are zero risks with vaccines, there’s a whole pamphlet that comes with them with all the side… Read more »

    Wake up
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    Wake up

    Should we be taking advice from smart people like you”” No you do your home work and I will do mine” If you dont see money being the major motivator in all this… I have nothing more to say to you You truly believe the companies producing all the shots care? They go to school for years and years and dedicate their lives to making money.

    No, you wake up
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    No, you wake up

    It is your advice to do your homework and research yourself. Maybe this is one thing where we can trust doctors and the Rebbe because we can’t possibly be able to do “our own research” properly based off of Google and websites that have articles written by people with no proof who are blinded by what they believe. Would you want me to Google and research and watch YouTube videos about hope to do bypass surgery on a heart and then you would trust me to be able to do it because now I know everything about it because I… Read more »

    VAERS
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    VAERS

    VAERS is not a scientific study. Any person can report anything there.

    The Rebbe was pro vaccine
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    The Rebbe was pro vaccine

    I don’t understand how Lubavitchers can be antivaxers. The Rebbe was vehemently pro vaccination on multiple occasions.

    Two sides to every coin
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    Two sides to every coin

    The rebbe was pro vaccine’s.. well, How many years ago was that??? Studies “do” change. Once upon a Time they said smoking is healthy.so now what?? Go smoke.. Don’t act stupid..

    By the way someone writing here before as follows ” I did research. And I know everything” well, if this is what you are saying then you probably know “NOTHING”
    I will bez’h continue giving vaccines for my kids because there is simply no clear path about this. However as someone writes before ” every coin has two sides” if can not admit to this then you ate foolish…

    scientist
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    scientist

    just because you were on the internet for four hours reading garbage it does not make you a doctor

    the rebbe is a nossie
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    the rebbe is a nossie

    if der rebbe zugt az mir zull vaccination mir vaccination

    Not mentioned in the comments so far...
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    Not mentioned in the comments so far...

    Is that failing to vaccinate your children is creating a chilul Hashem, every report in the secular news says the outbreaks are mainly in Orthodox Jewish areas. In the Middle Ages Jews were blamed for the Plague. Do you really want to now ACTUALLY sicken and/or kill innocent people because of some conspiracy theory website you read?

    hypocrite anti vaxxers
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    hypocrite anti vaxxers

    people say they are anti vax but if c’v something were to happen to THEM such as a heart attack, they are going to those same ‘know nothing doctors’ and ‘evil’ big pharma right away to get out of their problem.

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