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Zeldin Meets Supporters For His Run For NY Governor

Jewish activists and community leaders met at an event in Kew Gardens Hills, Queens to speak with Congressman Lee Zeldin who is running for Governor of New York. Full Story

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I'm sorry
August 3, 2022 11:40 am

But in what world would an orthodox Jew vote for a republican? It’s antithetical to Torah.

How
Reply to  I'm sorry
August 3, 2022 2:12 pm

How is it antithetical to Torah? Or is this comment just bait

They lack basic human kindness and compassion
Reply to  How
August 3, 2022 3:06 pm

If your policies hurt others, then there’s no way to be a Torah observant Jew while simultaneously supporting such policies. It’s hypocritical.

Exactly
Reply to  They lack basic human kindness and compassion
August 3, 2022 3:48 pm

That’s why we vote Republican 🙂

At least you're honest
Reply to  Exactly
August 3, 2022 9:11 pm

Conservatives are the worst, point proven.

You’ve misunderstood completely
Reply to  At least you're honest
August 3, 2022 10:01 pm

And probably deliberately so. The point is that Democrat policies hurt others.

in politics
Reply to  They lack basic human kindness and compassion
August 3, 2022 3:54 pm

in politics empathy does not work.

what one side does is hurting the other

if we are kind to everyone, that means we are kind and compassionate to no one

being compassionate to criminals is being mean to victims.

and torah is nothing about empathy, look at punishment for breaking shabbos skilah

torah is laws to keep, that following it will make you into a better a moral person.

Morals without empathy?
Reply to  in politics
August 3, 2022 9:17 pm

So when the Torah teaches us about chessed and kavod and ahava and kedusha and midos and tzedaka, Hashem intended we uphold these qualities and actions but without empathy and compassion?

That seems insane and impossible, and it may potentially mean you’re not a very genuine person.

But imagine upholding these amazing qualities when your heart is in the right place! Think about how much more beautiful the mitzvah would be!

Do mitzvos with compassion and empathy and it will change your life for the better.

Compassion
Reply to  They lack basic human kindness and compassion
August 3, 2022 4:48 pm

To paraphrase:

‘He who is compassionate to the cruel will ultimately become cruel to the compassionate.”

False
Reply to  Compassion
August 3, 2022 9:21 pm

The basis of Chabad Lubavitch is to love all Jews for who they are, exactly as they are.

If an individual doesn’t keep kosher, does the rabbi turn them away from davening in shul? Or does the rabbi invite them in and include them in the beauty of Judaism?

We show compassion to all people, regardless of what aveira one has committed.

Only Hashem can judge, while our job is to love.

Not keeping kosher vs. criminality
Reply to  False
August 3, 2022 10:10 pm

One who doesn’t keep kosher isn’t tearing at the fabric of society, and isn’t (openly) hurting others. So yes, your compassion for them doesn’t impinge on anyone else, and you should draw them closer to observing that and other mitzvos.

One who commits crimes, whether theft, assault and battery, etc., is directly harming others as well as himself. True compassion, then, is to prevent them from doing so; that benefits both them and their victims. While the false kind of “compassion” that amounts to making excuses for them is indeed cruelty to both them and to their victims.

Furthermore
Reply to  Not keeping kosher vs. criminality
August 4, 2022 5:08 am

Much of this crime is prohibited under 7 Mitzvos B’Nei Noach.

It’s been prohibited even before Jews were commanded to keep Shabbos.

Some people seem to have trouble following even the most basic rules for society.

Compassion, in such cases, is very misplaced.

Bring back being whipped to within a breath of the criminal’s life and much of this nonsense would stop.

Oh my gosh
Reply to  Furthermore
August 4, 2022 11:11 am

This is horrible.

Where did you study Torah?

Maybe we need to fix our education system if we’re churning out people who believe in whipping another human being, especially in the name of religion.

I can’t imagine what Hashem must be feeling watching humankind warp His beautiful Judaism into something so hateful.

Kosher vs literally any progressive policy
Reply to  Not keeping kosher vs. criminality
August 4, 2022 10:26 am

I agree with you! Not keeping kosher isn’t tearing at the fabric of society and it isn’t hurting others. Neither is getting an abortion. Neither is banning guns. Neither is demanding equal rights for black people and other minorities. Neither is letting two people get married if they love each other. That’s why I don’t understand how a Jew could vote against these progressive policies. The way we treat a Jew who doesn’t keep Kosher is the same way we should treat all people, even if they don’t abide by our beliefs or laws. Progressive policies hold so much good,… Read more »

Wrong on all counts
Reply to  Kosher vs literally any progressive policy
August 4, 2022 8:52 pm

Abortion on demand is treating life with contempt, and that spills over into other areas. Banning guns leaves the law-abiding at the mercy of criminals. Equal rights for black people and other minorities have been the law for three generations now. What you want is more-than-equal rights, such as “affirmative action” (which is to say, legalized racism). Some life styles cheapen human relationships and promotes immorality. So no, not a single one of those “progressive policies” “holds so much good,” or indeed any good at all. Frum Jews, who study the real Torah and practice it, realize that. People whose… Read more »

trolling
Reply to  I'm sorry
August 3, 2022 3:45 pm

Democrats hate Israel and Jews. Just look at their voting records.

Hmmm
Reply to  trolling
August 3, 2022 9:22 pm

It seems you haven’t been paying attention to the current political states of our two parties.

Well, then
Reply to  Hmmm
August 3, 2022 10:12 pm

tell us. Which party has the anti-Israel and anti-Semitic “Squad,” and which does not?

Don't forget
Reply to  Well, then
August 4, 2022 9:59 am

Being anti-zionist does not mean you are anti-semitic. It is vital to remember and understand this distinction.

I’m an orthodox Jew and I’m an anti-zionist.

Oh, BS
Reply to  Don't forget
August 4, 2022 8:54 pm

The “Squad” aren’t anti-Israel because of principles such as those in Vayoel Moshe. They’re anti-Israel because it’s full of Jews.

4th dimensional
Reply to  I'm sorry
August 3, 2022 4:56 pm

Probably the same world that sees rampant anti-semitism among the ranks of the Democrat and ilLIBERAL parties.

The Democrat Party is antithetical to Judaism
Reply to  I'm sorry
August 4, 2022 6:06 am

Everything about the Democrat party, from its inception and support of slavery, to its modern day version of “progressivism” and Leftism which are entirely the opposite of the values and morals of Torah. From its roots of supporting the slavery of people kidnapped from abroad, to Jim Crow to destroying inner cities with welfare, to the modern day sacrificing of babies in the womb to Molech and social justice – the exact opposite of justice – to trying to prevent people from having free speech and the right to protect themselves with a gun, the Democrat party is a disaster.… Read more »

To "sorry"
Reply to  I'm sorry
August 8, 2022 3:44 pm

You ask in which world a Torah-true Jew would vote Republican? How about starting with: in a world where G-d, religious thinking and observance are still important, and where acceptance of the fact that The Aibershter created a world in which He grants greater parnossah to some than to others and it is THE TORAH that dictates that the parnossah be shared with those who were granted less, not some wealthy politician who has squirrelled away enough to live in luxury for two lifetimes while taxing the middleclass to death. BTW, send regards to Bezos, Obama, Pelosi et al when… Read more »

Crown Heightsers support you, Lee Zeldin
August 3, 2022 12:11 pm

Lee Zeldin, please know that the Jews in Crown Heights support you, even if the CHPAC doesn’t

No thank you
Reply to  Crown Heightsers support you, Lee Zeldin
August 3, 2022 4:22 pm

Please speak for yourself. I don’t support Zeldin.

Which is it?
August 3, 2022 12:18 pm

I thought the Community Leaders and Community Activists all supported the current administration.

After all, look at all the photos and food.

Are we now supposed to turn our backs on the wonderful Government officials who have helped us so much?

After all, thanks to them, we’ve achieved no bail, full-time speed cameras, a thriving rat population, and thefts and other crimes in numbers not seen in recent years.

No thank you
August 3, 2022 1:44 pm

I’d never support an election-denier, insurrection-enabler and Trump-supporter, no matter how good I thought their policies were. Traitors are traitors are traitors are traitors.

Hope!
Reply to  No thank you
August 3, 2022 3:04 pm

This comment on COL gives me so much hope in the future of America, democracy, and Judaism. Thank you for being a good person!

Well, then...
Reply to  No thank you
August 3, 2022 4:38 pm

Did you support the election-denying Democrats in 2000, 2004, 2016 and 2018? Or were those different because reasons?

Are you kidding?
Reply to  Well, then...
August 3, 2022 9:09 pm

They were different because they didn’t lead to an attack on the capitol that was instigated by the president, resulting in this country coming dangerously close to losing our democracy and the very foundation of everything we stand for.

That seems like a major difference to me.

Well, then
Reply to  Are you kidding?
August 3, 2022 10:15 pm

No, they just led to, for example, an attack at a congressional baseball game that was intended to kill multiple lawmakers, and actually ended up grievously wounding one. Seems like that’s much more “dangerously close to losing our democracy” than stealing Nancy Pelosi’s lectern, you know.

I can't even begin to help you
Reply to  Well, then
August 4, 2022 10:01 am

If you haven’t been watching the Jan 6th hearings, then you’re just poorly informed.

But if you have – like all responsible Americans should be – and you can still equate a baseball game with the attack on our capitol, then you’re just not a very good person.

I’ll daven for you!

Can you read?
Reply to  I can't even begin to help you
August 4, 2022 8:56 pm

Not “a baseball game,” but _a shooting_ at one. You know, the kind of thing that would get you screaming about gun control, if the victims weren’t Republicans.

Attack
Reply to  Are you kidding?
August 4, 2022 5:10 am

The young woman who was shot and killed by the police inside the Capitol? That attack?

Oh dear
Reply to  Attack
August 4, 2022 11:13 am

I beg you to watch the Jan 6th hearings and with Gd’s help you will understand how insensitive your comment is.

HEaRiNgS
Reply to  Oh dear
August 4, 2022 3:40 pm

The show trial? The rigged leftist propaganda? That “hearing?”

A hearing is supposed to present both sides.

LA Morah
Reply to  No thank you
August 3, 2022 5:01 pm

Please look at the state of your state before philosophizing on matters that don’t really matter.

Thank you Max and Raf
August 3, 2022 3:10 pm

I see you lads working hard taking care of the community. To see such capable and good-looking men taking care of their own is a beautiful thing!!

I hope you’ll run for office because you know you have the support of the boys

A man of courage
August 3, 2022 3:46 pm

He was already attacked which shows that the current forces of evil consider him a threat.

Common sense voting
August 3, 2022 4:04 pm

The CH Jewish Community Leaders/Askunim can endorse Governor Hochul all they want, Nobody will listen.

The fact is that the Frum Jewish NY Residents/Voters will All be voting for Republican Lee Zeldin, I’m just stating a very obvious fact that the sooner our Askunim realize the better.

Same will be in Boro Park for Congress District 10 Jewish candidate Brian Robinson who shares our Frum values.

The leaders
August 3, 2022 6:37 pm

These ppl that Call them selves “community leaders “ all they have done for us is bad for this community the Democrats are horrendous and all they have done is Bring crime to an all-time high it’s never been like this before let’s vote for Lee Zeldin and make New York great again

Yaakov Jano golem
August 3, 2022 7:21 pm

Pirke Avos…Yidden should not get involved in Government since they will use us in their time of need only to forget us later .
How many times this happen in our history .
תודה רבה שלום

Not what it says
Reply to  Yaakov Jano golem
August 3, 2022 7:59 pm

It doesn’t say to not get involved in government. It says to be careful when dealing with them, because they’re helpful only when it serves their agenda.

All politics are local
August 3, 2022 7:39 pm

Will our local mainstream “activists” do anything but support the incumbent , establishment Democrat hack?

Sure Thing
Reply to  All politics are local
August 3, 2022 7:48 pm

Pass the food please, and smile for the photos.

Nice to see
August 3, 2022 9:22 pm

Nice to see some new faces getting involved.

Ch resident
August 4, 2022 12:09 pm

to those that say they won’t vote for zeldin cause he’s a trump supporter i would like to know if you’ll rather have someone who cares for the murderer rather then the victim then go ahead vote for the democrat hochul and watch quality of life in the city and state get even worse then it is now or you can think about others at least if you don’t care for yourself and maybe give lee zeldin a chance since he has proven himself in the last 12 years in congress as a true friend and much more aligned with… Read more »

Allie
August 5, 2022 6:39 pm

You guys are legendary.
Nice Beach house

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