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Yeshivos Present United Front Against New York State

An unprecedented gathering of principals and administrators of all Torah education institutions in New York State was recently held in a show of unity against new regulations by the state's Department of Education. Full Story, Photos

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Question
July 29, 2019 3:17 pm

Was this for all schools or just Chabad? And is it for all schools or just Yeshivos?

all private schools
Reply to  Question
July 29, 2019 7:46 pm

Catholic schools, Solomon Schechter, Montessori, etc…they will all lose from this

fill us in
July 29, 2019 3:50 pm

What exactly is the government trying to impose on us? Can anyone fill us in?

Shades of gray
July 29, 2019 4:29 pm

Painting this issue black and white distorts its reality. Yeshivos take public money as a school. If you’d like to be recognized as as school by the government you have to teach certain things certain ways. You have the choice to keep your curriculum exactly as you wish, but you can’t be called a government funded school. The government does not want to stop yeshivos from teaching everything it wants to; it wants to make sure it ALSO teaches certain things. Specifically what a school must teach, and how, and by who, is where it gets really slippery, and THAT’S… Read more »

It's Not Government Money
Reply to  Shades of gray
July 29, 2019 5:22 pm

Every single dollar that the government spends comes from taxpayers. Our community are taxpayers just like any other and we are entitled to receive our own tax money for our own schools as we see fit, not based on some bureaucrat’s arbitrary determination. This is discrimination against our community and we have every right to demand that it be stopped and that the government continue to provide funds to our yeshivas. The yeshivas have decided what they want to teach and how much, and outsiders who do not understand our community, our history and our traditions should mix out and… Read more »

say what?
Reply to  Shades of gray
July 29, 2019 6:07 pm

Yeshivas are,not publicly funded by any stretch of the imagination.Thats why we pay thousands of dollars of tuition. The govt has no right to interfere. PLUS the govt is mandating 6 hours of instruction PER DAY in topics such as theater, visial arts, consumer science and explicit education in adult matters. This is way more than math and english.And does not leave any time for religious instruction. During the time of Chanukah some Jews became hellinized aka learned math, science, language and culture. Those Jews no longer exist. The Jewish nation has only survived due to our pure chinuch which… Read more »

Not for religious reasons?
Reply to  Shades of gray
July 30, 2019 3:46 am

Do you know a thing about the Rebbes opinion on secular studies and the contaminating effects on students?

Boruch Hashem
July 29, 2019 4:29 pm

Chas V’sholom that we should have a next generation that is not dependent on food stamps and section 8

Frum Families Are Less Reliant on Gov't Assistance
Reply to  Boruch Hashem
July 29, 2019 5:29 pm

New York spends about $24,000 per public school student. The average frum family has about six children, if they were to send them to public school, it would cost the city about $144,000 per year, that is significantly less than the total aid packages provided to the average frum family, even when you include, Food Stamps, Section Eight, Medicare and any other program, it doesn’t come close to even $100,000 per year. Any suggestion that frum communities take more money than the average family in New York is either baseless ignorance or just good old antisemitism.

the real boss
Reply to  Boruch Hashem
July 29, 2019 5:57 pm

I refer you to likkutai sichos chelek aleph page 111 where the Rebbe writes that worrying about the future parnassah of a child amd stressing about his education is the equivilant of drowning him in the Nile. 2. Hashem created a world of people who are poor and people who,are rich.The job of the rich is to give to the poor. No matter what you do and what kind of education there will always be rich and poor people. Hashem decides a person pernossah for the year on rosh hashana and Hashems calculations dont involve how much math and science… Read more »

if you want parnasa
Reply to  Boruch Hashem
July 29, 2019 7:43 pm

then teach what helps with parnasa, not Hemingway and drama classes. The Walmarts of America are filled with the fruits of the American public education…

Now unite against the vaccines decree!!!
July 29, 2019 7:44 pm

Jewish kids need you !
217 kinds of more vaccines are in the making now! The new planned laws wants to target adults as well !
Unite to give us back our religious exempt that was taking from us during an international public scare , and against the constitution of the United States of America!

religious rights
Reply to  Now unite against the vaccines decree!!!
July 29, 2019 10:14 pm

to claim a phony religious right not to vaccinate is a big danger to our real religious rights. Thats why all the askonim and organizations like nathan lewin (who fought for jewish religious rights all his life) think it endagers our hard fought rights like yarlmuca shabbos kosher food for prisoners etc.

America
Reply to  religious rights
August 4, 2019 1:47 pm

Vaccinations can cause irreparable harm in adults and children, and I believe each family to learn the risks and make a conscious choice on what is best for THEM and THEIR children.

Figure it out
July 29, 2019 8:40 pm

I’m sure you will all figure something out for YOUR child’s Chinuch as so many of us were told the same by all of YOU when OUR children were being tossed out of the Yeshiva System .

Rev Deacon Ed Becker
July 30, 2019 2:14 am

As an ordained Anglican minister, I am appalled and disgusted with NYS. So the Jews suffer first but nobody else speaks for them? If I do not stand up for you and your rights, there will be nobody left to stand up for me when my time comes. We have seen this before elsewhere in the not too distant past. NYS will not stop with our Jewish brethren amongst us. The sons and the daughters of the descendants of the Israelites may be first to be attacked, but you will not be the last. From a purely secular standpoint, the… Read more »

Stop Voting for Democrats!!
July 30, 2019 9:36 am

Wake up my Jewish Sisters and Brothers! Stop voting for candidates that, once elected, turn around and stab you in the back! Please stop!!

Not surprising
July 30, 2019 10:09 am

If you take the state’s money, you allow them to dictate whatever they want. Cut the funding, trust in GD and you can make your own rules.

states money?
Reply to  Not surprising
July 30, 2019 2:36 pm

oh, u mean our tax dollars, ok

Heshy
Reply to  states money?
July 30, 2019 3:26 pm

The way to fight the board of miseducation is to register 150 thousand Yeshiva kids in public school. They will go crazy for space. They have to accept everyone. Then they will fund yeshivas who are saving the city tons of money.

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