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    Where the Chumros Come From

    With Pesach being defined by what we don't eat, one dayan maps out and even dispels some known chumros. A must read. Full Story, Video

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    Fascinating !
    Guest
    Fascinating !

    Most informative ! Thanks so much !

    evedd
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    evedd

    Lechora according to the reasoning about garlic and reddish which the author writes is because it is sharp, the same logic should apply to onions which the loam eats. .. so…seems they are either all mutar or all assur?

    wow
    Guest
    wow

    what an article…
    Thank you
    this is so enlightening

    thank you
    Guest
    thank you

    I’ve always had the question of why we can eat certain things and not others but no one had the real answer so thank you for the explanations

    we don't radish because of the Tzemach Tzedek
    Guest
    we don't radish because of the Tzemach Tzedek

    The minhag Chabad is not to eat radish on Pesach.
    R’ Akiva Eiger said not to eat it.
    The Tzemach Tzedek said that since R’ Akiva Eiger did not give a reason for the issur, we have to follow it. If he would have given a reason, we can argue his reasoning. But since he didn’t, we have to follow his psak.

    Meh.
    Guest
    Meh.

    Pesach is the one time a year when we observe chumros that are even “not normal”. (Garlic being the perfect example).
    The logic of this article is sound for the rest of the year, not on Pesach.

    I've always wondered
    Guest
    I've always wondered

    There are some people who do not eat vegetables with seeds in it because they resemble kitniyas ex cucumbers eggplants etc.
    Is there a source for this custom?

    bread in water barrel
    Guest
    bread in water barrel

    It was with the tzemach tzedek who told him to look in the barrel

    Very interesting
    Guest
    Very interesting

    Thanks for posting! Is not the prevailing custom now not to put anything on matzo and not as above?

    To number 9
    Guest
    To number 9

    Many prevailing customs don’t make sense…. That doesn’t change anything for the families that have those customs but for others there is no issue of putting fruits or vegetables on matza as long as they are sure there is no water mixed in it.

    thank you
    Guest
    thank you

    for clarifying

    Insightful
    Guest
    Insightful

    This was a fascinating and I gained much insight . Thank you and a Kosher and Freilicher Pesach.

    Michigs
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    Michigs

    The rebbe had Milchigs on Pesach

    Ask a Rav
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    Ask a Rav

    I asked my Rav (well known and respected Lubavitch Rav) and he said not to put anything on matza, only plain avacado with no lemon in it. If fruit is ok, then lemon should be ok?

    Regarding fish
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    Regarding fish

    This was on the OU website: Due to the frequent application of glazes to raw fish, it should be purchased only with reliable kosher certification. However, Kirkland Frozen Wild Salmon is acceptable after washing it off, while the Kirkland Atlantic (Farm Raised) Salmon is acceptable as is for Passover.

    Cottonseed oil
    Guest
    Cottonseed oil

    Cottonseed oil has a lot of chemical sprays which are not monitored and is used in China for sterilization and should be banned from foods.

    Southerner asks:
    Guest
    Southerner asks:

    What if you eat boiled peanuts?

    To #17
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    To #17

    Yes, if peanuts are boiled – they are not to be eaten on Pesach.

    An Fellow Rabbi Responds:
    Guest
    An Fellow Rabbi Responds:

    To #2 Re: Onions Somone said, that if not for Mussia serving onions in 1414, we wouldn’t eat onions on Pesach… To #5 Re: Radish You are mixing up Mashke with Radishes. Radishes were prohibited by the Tzemach Tzedek, Mashke was prohibited by R’ Akiva Eiger (and the Tzemach Tzedek said that he could’ve argued with his logic if there would be a reason, etc) To #6 Re: Not Normal Chumros Maybe this article applies to the 60% of Chabad who are BT and their family traditions don’t include these Chumros? And they feel pressured to follow crazy Chumros because… Read more »

    Garlic and Juice
    Guest
    Garlic and Juice

    Oftentimes juice is not really 100% juice. If your bottle says “from concentrate” it’s the same as if you bought a frozen juice and mixed in a few cups of water….

    Also, a thought on garlic I heard from an older person who grew up in Russia is that garlic was sometimes stored/dried with sacks that had also been used for flour. So someone who wanted dried garlic cloves to use would run into a potential problem then, The garlic we buy in the store is not the same as if gotten fresh.

    Shruya
    Guest
    Shruya

    Very nice article.
    חכמים הזהרו בדבריכם, pure avocado, etc, is not considered shruya, but you neglected the chumra mentioned by the Rebbe many time of assuring that dishes and utensils do not come into contact with matza. That is why some remove the matza from the table while food is being served.
    It is therefore important to make sure that you do not use a knife or fork, etc, to spread the avocado.

    To # 14
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    To # 14

    Minhog chabad is to eat avocado, with lemon juice, onion and (peeled) tomato. We follow the opinion of the alter rebbe who says fruit juice cannot make chomitz. Any rov who says otherwise can take it up with the alter rebbe

    peeling vegetables
    Guest
    peeling vegetables

    if the vegetables have wax oleic acid and /or alcohol that was chametz shouldn’t they have to be peeled before yom tov?

    Thank You!!!
    Guest
    Thank You!!!

    You answered many questions!!!

    Fish
    Guest
    Fish

    I heard that the minhag not to eat fish altogether like by Belz etc comes from a chametz problem in the brine that was used to preserve the fish distributed there. In places that had access to fresh fish there was no issue.

    why don't we use garlic?
    Guest
    why don't we use garlic?

    I heard that they used to pour mashke on it to make it grow strong. So that’s why we keep this minhag.

    Cheese Maker
    Guest
    Cheese Maker

    … but will refrain from hard cheeses, because those will be in the equipment for more than 24 hours before packaging.
    Today cheese is usually packed about 6 hours after the first drop of milk is poured into the vat, I have never seen hard cheese in any container for 24 hours.

    alcohol
    Guest
    alcohol

    if there is alcohol on the veggies doesn’t get absorbed in the fruit?

    Garlic
    Guest
    Garlic

    In the “hiskashrus” magazine he quotes each year in the name of R’ Yaakov Landau that Lubavitch never accepted NOT to eat garlic.

    Sephardim?
    Guest
    Sephardim?

    You say: “The custom of Ashkenazic Jewry is to refrain from eating any “Kitniyos” on Pesach, Sephardic communities have adopted the custom either partially or fully.”

    On what is this statement based? I’m having trouble finding any Sephardic Orthodox rabbi who says that Sephardim abstain from kitniyos or have adopted that chumra at all.

    to # 22
    Guest
    to # 22

    yes the alter rebbe says fruit juice doesnt make it chometz but can you 100% guarantee that the lemon juice did not come in contact with water?

    yasher koach
    Guest
    yasher koach

    Thank You Rabbi!

    To #24
    Guest
    To #24

    Peeled tomatoes are usually boiled and shruya lchol hadaios.

    Mushroom
    Guest
    Mushroom

    Can anyone tell what the problem with mushroom is?

    to #14 and #22
    Guest
    to #14 and #22

    The rav probably said no bc its very hard to make sure theres absolutely no water in it. if there would be any water at all the chshash is a lot more “dangerous” bc mei peiros are ‘memaheres lichmoitz’ if theyre with water (more than water itself). Bc its very hard to keep any water away the rav just said not to do it.

    Regarding gebrokts...
    Guest
    Regarding gebrokts...

    So according to the Alter Rebbe can we have matzah with eggs and possibly cook eggs with matzah?

    To number 31
    Guest
    To number 31

    If you squeeze lemon juice straight from a lemon onto the avocado that’s how you know there’s no water

    to #30
    Guest
    to #30

    Some Moroccan Jews refrain from eating kitniyos, it depends what city they were from and also their family custom.

    to #33
    Guest
    to #33

    I peel raw tomatoes every Pesach. Roma tomatoes are best for this purpose, and peel them with a tiny serrated knife.

    avocado
    Guest
    avocado

    I did not know we are allowed to put avocado on the matzo, that is fantastic! 🙂

    THANK YOU
    Guest
    THANK YOU

    Wow. I will definitely keep this information in kind!
    So well written and clear. Thank you!

    Pure Juice?
    Guest
    Pure Juice?

    Despite what it says on the bottle, it is almost impossible today to buy pure juice that doesn’t have even a miniscule amount of water. If the factory used water to wash their machinery before processing their beverages, which they undoubtedly do, then that is sufficient to render those beverages “Gebroks-enabled”. Of the 5% that companies can get away with not reporting on their ingredients – does anybody think there is not one drop of water in any of them? It is troubling that many commenters seem to misunderstand the trivial amount of water needed to render a food capable… Read more »

    mushrooms
    Guest
    mushrooms

    much of the mushrooms today are grown in/on a medium that contains wheat stalks(straw0 that might contain wheat kernels that can grom into the mushrooms thamself

    What about Chocolate??
    Guest
    What about Chocolate??

    I heard the Rebbe used to eat shmerling chocolate – specifically the bar with the horse on the packaging. Can anyone confirm this?

    quinoa isn't a grain
    Guest
    quinoa isn't a grain

    Quinoa is a grass

    TO # 19
    Guest
    TO # 19

    The Minchas yitzchock says regarding COTTONSEED OIL tzarich iyun lemaaseh I call that INCONCLUSIVE.not a ruling.

    the story happened with the Baal Shemtov and one of his Chassidim
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    the story happened with the Baal Shemtov and one of his Chassidim

    My father R’ Gershon Chanowitz HaCa”M, would tell this story every Pesach. So thank you for reminding me about it My father was by the Freerdiker Rebbes sedarim the years that he was in Otvotsk. His uncle was Moishe Leib Rodshtain, who was a secretary to the Freerdikeh Rebbe (and later to our Rebbe) and he was one of the Minyan of men that were invited to the seder. My father stayed at his uncle, and therefore was able to attend the sedarim by the Rebbe. Our sedarim were rich with many sichois and stories that he heard by the… Read more »

     quinoa isn't a grain
    Guest
    quinoa isn't a grain

    Quinoa is a grass My father R’ Gershon Chanowitz HaCa”M, would tell this story every Pesach. So thank you for reminding me about it My father was by the Freerdiker Rebbes sedarim the years that he was in Otvotsk. His uncle was Moishe Leib Rodshtain, who was a secretary to the Freerdikeh Rebbe (and later to our Rebbe) and he was one of the Minyan of men that were invited to the seder. My father stayed at his uncle, and therefore was able to attend the sedarim by the Rebbe. Our sedarim were rich with many sichois and stories that… Read more »

    Smoking kills
    Guest
    Smoking kills

    Tobacco should be chometz all year.

    cooking before YomTov
    Guest
    cooking before YomTov

    can one use unpeeled vegetables when cooking before pesach?

    to 48
    Guest
    to 48

    is the tikun stated somewhere that the BESH”t told him to do? thanx

    To #44
    Guest
    To #44

    ABSOLUTELY false. The Rebbe did NOT eat that chocolate on Pesach, as well as processed foods. Also, to the one who says the Rebbe didn’t eat Milchigs on Pesach – FALSE! The Rebbe drank milk and ate cottage cheese, and more.

    Halachic updates to above from Rabbi Goldsteins Pesach book
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    Halachic updates to above from Rabbi Goldsteins Pesach book

    From what time are those that are accustomed to not eat processed foods to begin their stringency? ‎From the night of Pesach or from 5th hour of Erev Pesach?‎ One who is stringent to avoid eating processed foods is to avoid eating them starting from the 5th hour of ‎the day.‎ ‎ [Response of Rabbi Yehuda Leib Groner [secretary of the Rebbe] to a query of the author; Custom of many of Anash from vintage Chabad ‎homes as heard by the author The reason: The reason for not eating processed foods is due to a suspicion of Taaruvos Chameitz. Now… Read more »

    Shcmaltz-R. Goldsteins Pesach book
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    Shcmaltz-R. Goldsteins Pesach book

    Oil: The Rebbe writes‎ [Igeres Hakodesh Vol. 21 p. 96.]‎‎ that “Anash use Natala margarine on Pesach”. This refers to a congealed vegetable fat ‎that was processed by a company under a local Mehadrin Hashgacha. Thus one may purchase any Kosher for ‎Pesach oil that contains a most reliable Hashgacha.‎ ‎ Nevertheless there are those which are stringent to only ‎use melted chicken fat [Shmaltz] as their oil base product for Pesach food and cooking.‎

    Sugar
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    Sugar

    ‎5. Sugar:‎ The custom of the Rebbe Rashab: The Rebbe Rashab avoided using sugar on Pesach. Some say it was due to suspicion that a chameitz ‎ingredient was used in the boiling process, or alternatively the workers would dip their breads into it, and thus ‎there is a suspicion that a crumb of chameitz remained in the sugar. There is a story with the brother-in-law of ‎the Rebbe Rashab which owned a sugar production plant and had made a specially supervised batch of sugar ‎to be used by the Rebbe Rashab on Pesach despite that even throughout the year there… Read more »

    to # 30 sefardim
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    to # 30 sefardim

    If u speak to sefardim such as I have in my own community u discover that very many sefardic communities do Not eat certain kitnios. In some regions only rice is permitted and none other.

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