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    WhatsApp “Killed” My Father

    The daughter of Yitzchok Rosenberg opened WhatsApp to find 68 messages that her father was killed in a supposed boat accident - moments before it actually happened. Full Story

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    No words except,
    Guest
    No words except,

    המקום ינחם אתכם מתוך שאר אבלי ציון וירושלים

    Horrible news
    Guest
    Horrible news

    It’s a tragedy no one should suffer, and it’s horrible thats how the person found out, but it’s not whats app. It’s not the thing, it’s the people using the thing. As Chassidim of the Rebbe we know the rule, anything can be used for good or bad, but we choose to use it for good. The problem is real, but it’s the people that are the problem, the culture frum community has fostered by being so news obsessed and over share of information. It doesn’t matter if its what app, SMS, email, or calling someone on the phone, or… Read more »

    Very sorry
    Guest
    Very sorry

    MOSHIACH NOW need I say more?

    bde
    Guest
    bde

    While I fully agree with the point brought out I fail to see the accuracy in the headline

    Sad!
    Guest
    Sad!

    It is so unfortunate this lady found out through What’s App groups! It is more unfortunate that her family did not call her immediately and tell her before it went out on What’s App! Yes, definitely agreed, we must all be more sensitive!

    May these families never know of any more tzar!

    המקום ינחם אתכם מתוך שאר אבלי ציון וירושלים

    BDE
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    BDE

    My condolences for your loss.

    Although many news agencies can go so low as to relish in peoples sorrow, I believe that most of them have the basic morals to not release the names of victims until the families have been notified. I think the public should have the same basic decency.

    Yes
    Guest
    Yes

    To number two you are sooo right…if people can become more sensitive and self aware instead of focusing on being the number one news reporter… Aka yenta that would help.May we,all report that Moshiach is finally here….

    Disagree
    Guest
    Disagree

    While, I totally understand and feel very sad about the event.
    This is an over simplification of today’s reality.
    What’s app is not the problem here, the source of the problems are the news outlets and first hand witnesses…
    If something makes it on any news website than it’s official as far as readers are concerned, and at this point it’s useless to blame what’s app…
    Though no one wants to be in same situation and it should not happen again, what we are putting in question is, should news like those be posted on websites….

    To number 7
    Guest
    To number 7

    If you’re going to preach about being sensitive then don’t use the name Yenta in a condescending way. Many people have that beautiful name!

    Age old
    Guest
    Age old

    It’s not whatsapp that is to blame. It’s people. Gossiping people. You think this didn’t happen 100 years ago… Someone would hear a rumor and go running around the shtetl spreading it, and before you know it, the story has changed 5 times over….
    People, stop gossiping, whether in person, social media, anything.

    Bde
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    Bde

    I have no words for the loss of ur father!!
    So sorry u were informed like this!
    Moshiach now!

    Whatsapp didn't kill your father
    Guest
    Whatsapp didn't kill your father

    BDE. But misleading headlines a

    whatsapp
    Guest
    whatsapp

    there needs to be some basic etiquette for whatsapp- communities should NOT post news on whatsapp only- it is not the proper environment for certain things..it’s gotten out of hand

    cold winter
    Guest
    cold winter

    Let’s be sensitive put yourself in her shoes think how you would want to be treated in such a situation think before you post and yes it’s time to get rid of the shmutz app its taking over our lives like any addiction

    solution
    Guest
    solution

    how about no what’s app groups ? I have what’s app but don’t do groups so it’s all one to one and personal. I’m sure none of her contacts would be so tactless .
    sorry for ur loss.

    Thank you
    Guest
    Thank you

    Thank you for this lesson for these days of Sefirah of how we should work on increasing our ahavas Yisroel – maybe there could be more suggestions of how we should increase our ahavas Yisroel with social media. It is very painful what you are going through with the death of your father and even more painful how you found out. May Hashem comfort you with all the mourners of Tzion and Yerushalayim with the coming of Moshiach now.

    its wrong
    Guest
    its wrong

    I think it is written somewhere that we should be quick to spread good news and slow to share bad news. There is no gain whatsoever to share bad news. Even the big news hold off on stating the name of victims until the next of kin are notified. Shame… solution: shut your virtual mouths

    WhatsApp is the messenger
    Guest
    WhatsApp is the messenger

    Don’t blame WhatsApp. Blame the people who sent the messages to your phone. It is such a tragedy. Hashem should bring Moshiach NOW!

    mashiach darf cumen yetz
    Guest
    mashiach darf cumen yetz

    bde
    we need to live with the time! Emor : only good things about the other in order to reveal their inner good!
    tichias hametim now!!!

    so sorry this has happend
    Guest
    so sorry this has happend

    Im very sorry that you have suffered, this is terrible to hear awful news like this without your family being involved. i hate the internet, i hate all of it, like a sewer it is.
    Gd bless you all of your family.
    chana simcha

    Confused
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    Confused

    I did not understand this article. How did “Whatsapp” kill the writer’s father? Why is the writer complaining about sharing bad news? Should bad news be kept a secret? I’m confused.

    oy vey!!
    Guest
    oy vey!!

    BD”H. CRAZY STORY.

    If not what's app?
    Guest
    If not what's app?

    If there was no what’s app? I’m sure there would be another app that everyone would use.

    The family should have called her.  People on what's app are not to blame
    Guest
    The family should have called her. People on what's app are not to blame

    I’m sorry but this is not the failure of what’s app groups. Her family should have called her immediately. If they could not reach her then they should have called the work office. The family could have made sure someone in the office was sitting with her while they told her the news over the phone. That would have been more important than immediately starting funeral arrangement as the daughter says. We are so sorry for your loss and we realize that finding blame now is a way to take your mind off of this terrible tragedy. We hope Hashem… Read more »

    cold winter
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    cold winter

    21 confused put it this way you’re parent died do you want to find out from what’s app get a life you know perfectly fine what is being talked about over here

    To everyone turning this into a debate
    Guest
    To everyone turning this into a debate

    Shut up! Just say bde, sorry for your loss, may we gather for Simchas! This is not the place for debates and stating your בויך סברה on whatsapp.

    Bde
    Guest
    Bde

    Ad Mosai.
    We need Moshiach now!!

    Moshiach now
    Guest
    Moshiach now

    Sorry #_9 I didn’t mean it that way the bottom line we should have only good news to report.

    I'm so sorry for your loss
    Guest
    I'm so sorry for your loss

    B”DE Nothing anyone can say can help. I’m so sorry for your loss. It is so frighting to loose a parent especially so suddenly. You must be so frightened and scared and wondering what could have gone different to create a different outcome. I can’t imagine how much pain you feel and how your suffering. Just know you have a whole cummunity here for you. Ask people that come to write in a journal memories of your father it will help you see how special he is. Just take this time to mourn on a loss that earlier today you… Read more »

    Time to stop using social media
    Guest
    Time to stop using social media

    This article speaks for itself. BDH

    All of you are being ignorant
    Guest
    All of you are being ignorant

    The author of the article is simply saying instead of saying people are dead before you kniw for sure, spread the message to daven or then.
    That is all.

    Heartbreaking
    Guest
    Heartbreaking

    This is so heartbreaking. To this woman: המקום ינחם אתכם מתוך שאר אבלי ציון וירושלים What a terrible way to find out! What a shock. It is not the Jewish way. In general, I was also raised that you don’t share bad news if you can avoid doing so. May Klal Yisroel be blessed with only bessuros tovos, yeshuos v’nechomos – with the ultimate Mvasser Tov, Eliyahu Hanovi tells us the news of Geulah. In the meantime, lets learn to shut our mouths, just a bit. The consequences of our actions can be quite damaging, as this article so plaintively… Read more »

    Pain
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    Pain

    If the author of this post is who it is attributed to, she’s obviously in pain and mourning, so she can get some slack for shooting her pain at more people. But for everyone else, it’s important to try and control yourself and not lash out, when you’re in extreme pain, as hard as that may be. And for those who need to be the first to broadcast news, try being the first to broadcast good news, and the last for bad news. And for any news always know with 100% certainty that that which you are passing on is… Read more »

    protocol
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    protocol

    same happens with governments and plane accidents and terror attacks e.g. belgium there are constant and inaccurate reports as nobody knows the truth. As yidden we should know not to publicise every rumor and report re accidents just because you saw it somewhere. Often the family themselves have not yet been told. It may be there are children who have not been told who find out from their friends. Use your seichel. Not everything has to be reported. I also agree with the tehillim point it drives me nuts how people always post about accidents etc. without names for tehillim… Read more »

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