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I saw something...
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I saw something...

at 8:50 I saw tons of police activity on president street, they were arresting 2 black teenagers, one on President and Brooklyn, and one on New York Ave.
I assume it may be the same insident but not sure.

Question
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Question

Why not call Shomrim?

crown heights shomrim
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crown heights shomrim

the women are fine, the african american male was apprehended on president and brooklyn where he was later id’d by the women

call for help
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call for help

Thanks for the good news. I think the lesson is clear. always call for help. do not assume someone else is doing the calls.

Thank you all for the info.

Sholom

Thank you shmira
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Thank you shmira

Just for everyones info crown heights shmira was the one that caught these perps they followed them and got the police to arrest them

Lesson
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Lesson

I think the lesson is that women shouldn’t be out in the street at night especially where they were – not in the center of CH.

No reason for women to be @ Ep and Rogers Nightime
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No reason for women to be @ Ep and Rogers Nightime

There is absolutely no reason why Jewish Women would be walking in total Schvartze area like Eastern-Parkway and Rogers. It is Sakonas Nefashos and they shouldn’t place themselves in danger.

During daytime it might not be as dangerous

curious
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curious

is this my hero brother sholom again? if yes Sholom im proud of u!

worried mom
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worried mom

I always see high school girls walking down Epkway at 10 11 at night! It is poshut a sakanah for these young girls to walk soo late! NO IT IS NOT SAFE! If u want to do excercise plse do it earlier in the day and dont put your life in danger!

no fear!
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no fear!

we must not tell our women to sit at home at night because of what possibly could happen C/V. we aught to demand proper PD protection and allow everyone to go and come as they please!!!

What?
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What?

There is no reason why they shouldn’t be out!! Do you want to keep women locked up at home from the time they get home from work? Oh, wait, they aren’t allowed to work, we need them locked up ALL day! So, if possibly they were going walking, a group of THREE of them, possibly to exercise, when it isn’t so late, is that such a problem? The creeps hang out at 8:30 AM near my office, should I be forbidden from going to work?

so...
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so...

so woman should lock themselves in a cage???perhaps woman in a groups with pepper spray is a better idea.

MOVE TO ISRAEL!
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MOVE TO ISRAEL!

AND THIS IS WHY I LIVE IN ISRAEL B”H!

COLlive first...
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COLlive first...

thank you for posting…you have taken over the lead by far as the most popular lubavitch news website…you are the first to report this incident, as where before the other sites used to be first to do so…keep up the good work…you have become a habit (a good one) and would be lost without you…

a balanced approach
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a balanced approach

There is no reason for women to be caged up and yes, of course every person should have the right to walk around safely. At the same time, you won’t find me walking around in Prospect Park at night to excersize my rights to safety. Certainly people should work on ways to make CH safer, but in the meanwhile consider the reality of the current situation when making plans. I’m not so much talking about this story in particualr as I don’t really know the full details. I just mean in general it seems from the comments that people tend… Read more »

Humour
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Humour

I love how this post went from hero-savior, to an argument about women’s safety. Hashem rules all things and you just have to have faith 🙂

the victim
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the victim

thank you shomrim for all your help

women need to go out at night.
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women need to go out at night.

What kind of business is this telling woman to stay home at night? Women need to go out. You don’t know where she was going. We need to teach our women how to protect themselves.

Bear Spray
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Bear Spray

Buy pepper spray, and dont hesitate to use it!

If you’re really adventurous buy bear spray and lug it around. You won’t stop laughing once you see what happens when you use is on a would-be mugger…

OYYY!
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OYYY!

Relax! No one is telling women what to do!! It was a piece of kind-hearted advice, take it or leave it!!

rabbi
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rabbi

women could go out at night!!!!!

TRY THIS!!!!!!!!!!
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TRY THIS!!!!!!!!!!

HOW ABOUT WOMEN DO WALK OUT AT NIGHT, LURE THESE ANIMALS AND THEN ONE BY ONE WE GET THEM ARRESTED, UNTIL CROWN HEIGHTS IS TOTALLY SAFE?

sholom!
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sholom!

was it uncle sholom from new haven? he always saves the day!

EXCUSE?!?!??! To # 7
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EXCUSE?!?!??! To # 7

There is so a reson why women should be in the rode! People are allowed to walk outside at 8:30 at night! Excuse me im not a woman yet, im 10 and my bedtime is later then that!!!!! LOL!!!! EXCUSE MY rude SENSE OF HUMOR

what
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what

i dont get it it was thursday night what were the women doing out of the house, they should be in the kitchen
i dont get it shmira and shomrim are not doing there job
letting women be out of the kitchen
a chutzpeh

I Think We Are Forgetting
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I Think We Are Forgetting

Don’t forget how many of our young men have suffered attacks on the streets at night in the last year or two. Clearly, it is not safe for anyone!!! Travel in groups after dark, or get more involved with city council and efforts to reduce crime. It sucks, but it has nothing to do with being a woman or a man, or half the time even a Jew or a “white person”… just a resident of Brooklyn. It’s full of people that do awful things, and most of them aren’t selective about their victims. So JUST BE CAREFUL and look… Read more »

Boruch N. Hoffinger                 BS"D
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Boruch N. Hoffinger BS"D

Sorry to hear the bad news. B”H they’re OK. One of my daughters is learning Karate. When in a situation like this it’s very good to shout. Shout FIRE! this attracts a lot of attention. Shouting POLICE! is less effective (So I’ve heard.) Shouting FIRE! causes people to open their windows. There are plenty of good Afro-Americans. It’s a pity because they were walking at a good hour in a public place, on the other hand the government is weak. Were the government REALLY a GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE they would institute ‘The 7 Noahide Laws.’ Then the non-Jews would… Read more »

to #25
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to #25

EXCUSE ME?
Not all women begin their preparations for Shabbos on Thursday night and it isn’t your place to tell them where they can and cant be at that time.
It can also be that they were going shopping for something. In any case, keep your absurd comments to yourself…

South Bend, indiana
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South Bend, indiana

Where I come from in Indiana we all carry concealed weapons and are trained to use them. Its not nearly as dangerous here as it is in NY but any time any place someone could C”V become a victim so with protection and a little sachel you should feel comfortable walking around where you live…at any hour.

night time
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night time

i belive this is a isolated insident but at the same time it is crazy for a girl to walk around at night with no form of pertection…mace or a tasor would stop most attacks and give plenty of time for the victims to run. there r a lot of predetors out there and its as easy as mace or tasor to make them think twice before they try again.

Heyyyyyy
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Heyyyyyy

I think that if women would be wearing black burkes there would be no African Americans running after them in the first place, no matter if it was 8:30 am or pm

to #25
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to #25

I appreciate your sense of humor, and I’m female (GASP!) I don’t go close to the kitchen on Thursday. I don’t make shabbos, and I don’t make dinner on Thursday night either, my husband does. I understand that this makes us a non frum couple 😉

#25
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#25

BS”D

woe :0
unreal, sheesh.

to #22
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to #22

u r the most brilliant person posting here from the looks of it

u know what's funny abt this
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u know what's funny abt this

it started as some neutral inquiring and advising and as usual ends in some heated discussion… typical lubavitchers

umm
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umm

Hahaha – oh ladies relax, show some hood..

brains
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brains

get a gun

safety
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safety

Yes- I agree that we SHOULD not have problems from anyone when walking down the street. But the reality is in a big city ALL WOMEN are in increased danger once the sun goes down. I see many people who are not excercising basic safety precautions. In some cases it might be better to call a car service to get where you need to go rather than risking problems- this aint Kansas Dorothy!

CH Resident
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CH Resident

As a resident of NYC I should be wellcome in any place, So if one shvartze idiot wants to attack some ladies he should be the one thats punished not the law abiding people who are out for some exersize after a days hard work

WOMEN AND GIRLS!  LISTEN UP
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WOMEN AND GIRLS! LISTEN UP

LADIES:
WHEN YOU WANT T GO OUT AT NIGHT, HERES WHAT YOU DO. YOU MAKE A SPECIAL MUD FACIAL MASK FROM YOUR FRONT GARDEN AND THIS WILL HELP YOU CAMOUFLAGE.

Now HERE ARE THE INGREDIENTS:
5-6 spoons of GARDEN DIRT

1 spoon egg

drop of ginger

and of course GARLIC

mix it all with 2 teasspons of toothpaste preferably white.

now place it all over yourselfstarting with the eyes.

Ask your husbands if you look Ok.

That’le do the trick.

Hatzlacha Rabbah. may Hashem be With you!

im laffing so hard rite now!!!
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im laffing so hard rite now!!!

u guys r outta control!!!!!

chill out 28
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chill out 28

i think 25 was being sarcastic

aidle
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aidle

this is hilarious. i luv being a lubab. haha. andi luv #25s saracsm and the ppl who thought he was serious. ur hilarious

!!!!!!!!!!!!
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!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHATS THIS WORLD COMING TO
FREEEEEEEEEEKY!!
GOLUS IS SERIOUSLY TOOO MUCH!!

crown
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crown

lol wow this is raelly dangrous sbut these comments are funy

idea
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idea

heres an idea: why dont we have shomrim/shmira patrol ep from 8 to 10 at night. from kingston to flatbush ave. I would be willing to pay a monthly fee to have this patrol. its like a mini gym membership, and you have yourself a nice, safe parkway to walk on. I think it’ll become known to the perps that its patroled and they should stay away, cuz its womens walking hr. e/o should pay bc excercize outdoors is sooo important.

pepper spray pepper spray pepper spray
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pepper spray pepper spray pepper spray

every store in crown hights should carry pepper spray and no one should leave home with out it and people should take target practice with it and at any doubt especialy women should not hesitate to use it since it has no lasting effects on the other hand hesitating to use it can have a life time effect

where can u buy pepper spray?
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where can u buy pepper spray?

Is there any store in ch that sells pepper spray???

To Author
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To Author

Next time the traffic doesn’t allow you, remember that you are a new yorker and stop anyway, better to get honked at than to not help someone in need.

Peper spray can be bought online too:
http://safetygirl.com/pepperspray.html

Laughing so hard
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Laughing so hard

Number 40, you are too funny!

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