By COLlive.com reporter
Zaki Tamir, Chairman of the Crown Heights Jewish Community Council (CHJCC), said Thursday the third elected member of the neighborhood’s Bais Din (Badatz) Rabbi Yossi Braun will be inaugurated in the near future, even after a scheduling error and some opposition.
A ceremony for Rabbi Braun was planned for this Motzoei Shabbos, Yud Shvat, but the only available flight to fit the schedule would still be in air on Shabbos, COLlive.com was told, so Rabbi Braun’s trip had to be postponed.
“We delayed it only for that reason,” Tamir said in an interview Thursday. He said the new dates that are being considered are this coming Monday, Thursday or the following Motzoei Shabbos.
Disapproval of Rabbi Braun’s mandate, which was cemented by a “Zabla Bais Din” as legitimate despite worries about his credentials and experience, was made public by a letter from three respected educational figures in Crown Heights.
Rabbis Yoel Kahn, Avrohom Gerlitzky and Berel Levin challenged the authority of the Zabla Bais Din, headed by Monsey Rabbi Avrohom Rosenberg. “The ruling is completely out of the range of the deliberations that took place in front of your court,” they stated.
Tamir told COLlive.com it was not his concern.
“When you have a psak din there will always be people who will not be happy. I see this opposition as 100% freedom of speech. As the CHJCC we are committed to the psak – whatever it might be.”
He said that Badatz member Rabbi Avrohom Osdoba, who backed Braun’s opponent in the September election, is planning to attend the “hachtara” crowning ceremony.
“Rabbi Osdoba understands that we can only expect from a Rov to show us an example of listening to a psak of a Bais Din,” Tamir said, noting that “if it is overturned and appealed – even in a year from now – we will listen to the psak.”
Another area of concern is how the CHJCC (or Vaad Hakohol) will pay the new rabbi’s salary when they owe close to $150,000 to each of the current members of Badatz – Rabbi Osdoba and Rabbi Yaakov Schwei.
Tamir said there has been a “rabbonim committee” created for that purpose and that they have already deposited $50,000 to the Vaad Hakohol this past Monday. He said the names of the 20 member committee will be publicized once the formation is finalized.
He said the committee gathered the first amount from some 50 Crown Heights residents “from all parties,” and that the money and future funds will be used to pay all 3 rabbis, including Rabbi Shlomo Segal, a dayan in the Bais Din.
The rabbonim won’t know where the money is coming from and the donors won’t be able to use it as leverage or bribery, Tamir pointed out.
To restore the budget of the CHJCC, Crown Heights-born entrepreneur Sam Chanin has agreed to conduct a full financial review for the coming 6 months.
Tamir said the “rabbonim committee” asked for assurances for their money and this was the best solution since the Netzigim (body of representatives of local shuls in charge of oversight of CHJCC financials) remains inactive.
“We are very thankful to Mulle Chanin for agreeing to do this,” Tamir said. “From my work with him in the past I’ve seen how be was able to help companies emerge from debt. With his help we will be able to have proper income from the Kashrus, simches, promotional events and donations.”
He added: “Chanin is seen as a major security blanket for all sides involved. He has met with Rabbi Osdoba who expressed his appreciation for his involvement.”
Tamir said a contract will be signed with Rabbi Braun at the inauguration ceremony. The Braun family will be arriving at a later date.
UPDATE (Friday, Jan 14, 11:08 AM):
The Vaad Hakohol notified that the hachtora of Rabbi Yosef Yeshaya Braun will take place on Sunday, 11 Shvat 5771 – Jan 16 2011 at 9:00 PM in the main shul of 770 Eastern Parkway.
Is Rabbi Braun an computer program that he needs to be installed?
Are you also preparing for the summons that you will need to answer for in the Beis Din Shel Mayloh???
Kan Tzrichim Lifkos.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“I am following orders”
If he is so good and happy in Australia, why come here. Whose puppet will he be? mendel hendel? obviously he can not bring sholom with such a beginning. Please boycott the installation of the computer as there are too many viruses.
Hershel Moss, Crown Heights, NY
It’s not a cause for celebration. This is a travesty.
wow, this is truly amazing and encouraging. The vaad hakohol unequivocally accepting the will of the people/community, accepting the ruling of halacha/zabla.
There truly is hope for us. may we move forward from this and emerge stronger and more unified.
Mazal Tov to the New Rabbi! ‘yaarich yomim al mamlachto’.
To Zaki Tamir: You are an attorney. Are you comfortable with the questions being raised? Questions asked in a rational manner, albeit with indignation. Do you have answers to the questions? Or are you “just following orders”? (You do remember in which court that defense line was used.) As a layman you are not expected to “judge the judges” so to say. OK. Very respectful of you, and thank you. However as a secular advocate in courts, you know full well of the constitutional concept of “due process.” It is a secular law. Not a Torah law. But it is… Read more »
Al though there are serious questions to be answered at the moment There is a Psak Din that must be followed & that is what they are doing The letter outlining serious questions etc. I well put & to the point but it is currently outweighed by the Psak Din. Stay tuned for further same bat time same bat channel!
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Zaki Tamir is showing himself to be a class act and very responsible. The beis din must be respected.
I would think that mechanchim should show an example that you dont queastion Rabbonim on a public forum, but do so in private with respect.
A MAN WITH HIS HEAD ON RIGHT :ZAKI TAMIR ! wishing u lots of hatzlocho 1
“Chanin is seen as a major security blanket”, he IS a big Teddy Bear.
We love you Mulle, you do great work, Iv’e seen it first hand.
its about time.!!!
see chasam sofer orach chaim siman reish vov. gerlitzky didnt quote any halachic sources to support his opinion. one must differentiate between what the Rebbe said in derush- not halachah or what he said as ideal and practical halachah.
I respect Zaki for taking this position, however, The concerns of the three respected Rabbis are extremely valid AND MUST BE ANSWERED!
If this continues and Rosenberg ignores the plea of the Rabbis CROWN HEIGHTS MAY BE CONTIUED HEADING IN A DIRECTION THATWON’T BE TO GOOD, TO SAY THE LEAST……!!!???
Anash and the entire Shchuna are not little children that you can just shut them up!
The issues are NOT GOING AWAY!!
beautifull. azkir al hatzion bli neder very soon.
this is a disgrace The original 5 or 6 Chabad Rabbonim who were part of the committee are silent as Rav Rosenberg issues conflicting and evasive statements. This is a scandal. Rabbi Braun is a learned man but he does not have smicha and little Shimmush, especially what is need in a large and diverse community like Crown Heights. A mistake was made, do not try and cover up. The third position should be declared vacant and another election should be called. Next time more thought should be put into the candidates credentials and experience. A young man like Rabbi… Read more »
A supposed Rav without semicha who needs him, stay home in Australia. I voted for him before I knew he was smichaless.
No Smicha no Rav.
bh
mazal tov
soo i can give proper honor to my new rav
please explain why woul rabbi braun want to come to a community with so many problems. in his interview he said he was happy in sydney and he really does not want to come to CH so after all this why is he still fighting to come here? who would want to be part of all this machlokos. unless there are other motives involved!!
STOP THE BASHING IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY MAKE SURE IT MAKES SENSE AND THAT YOU CAN BACK IT!! ANSWER THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION WHERE IS HIS SMICHA???
But hey, what do you do when the psak may be clearly against halacha, do you still accept it?
To bring out the point I will exaggerate with this example;
what would you do if the Rabbanim came out with a Psak that we can eat on fast days, or even worse things?
Where do you draw the lines?
Why would it even be a question if Rabbi Osdoba will attend the Hachtara.
I think that brining it up is a disgrace.
By saying that, you make it clear that it’s not beyond reason to have expected that a Rav would even POSSIBLY not listen to his verdict and Psak Din?
For Example:
Would it have been appropriate to say that “the Rav agreed to eat only kosher”
Anyone who says so is insulting the Rav by insinuating that may he may very well have considered a different possibility, Chas Vesholom, only that he decided that ….
thank g-d.
All the Rabonim are following the Psak Din of the Zabla Beth Din Headed by Rabbi Rosenberg.
Mazal Tov!
so happy thar R’ Braun is finally coming!
the sour losers have to learn that they cant win everything!
Didan Notzach!
I hope and pray that we would finally let ourselves overcome all, and do all it takes to bring the respect back to the Rabbonyim.
Now CH is guaranteed to be forever divided,
The bright side is that there will be a very definitive divide with 2 strong camps which will each run their lives independent of the other – hopefully behatzlacha, unfortunately in its stupidity they lost the chance of ever having achdus with the way this case was run.
Ad mosai – we need the Rebbe back! This is the only solution now!
…they dont want his ceremony on yud shvat! no coincidence!
Another “news” blog lifted this story word for word! That’s integrity…
He said that Badatz member Rabbi Avrohom Osdoba, who backed Braun’s opponent in the September election, is planning to attend the “hachtara” crowning ceremony.
“Rabbi Osdoba understands that we can only expect from a Rov to show us an example of listening to a psak of a Bais Din,” Tamir said, noting that “if it is overturned and appealed – even in a year from now – we will listen to the psak.”
The flight itself would have arrived well before shabbos. The time-zone of the flight itself would have indicated that they were airborne on shabbos.
In your z’chus we should be zocha to sholom in crown heights
At last we’re almost at the end of this…
Watch whats happens this week…
While the opposition letter was authored by three undoubtedly respected members of the community who are committed to Chaddishkeit and the Schunah, it seems that it is everyone’s best interest to just move on and attempt to create a unified community. Of course it is axiomatic that there are plenty of other rabbonim within Chabad to whom one can ask a shailoh and who could form a zabloh for those who would rather not bring their other issues before the Badatz. While I was very much in favor of Rabbi Bogomilsky, perhaps some younger blood may be a catalyst for… Read more »
Yey! I am so happy for the new Rov and for the Crown heights community. It’s about time time!!!!
As a businessman who has seen and interacted with Rav Segal at a Din Torah, I must say that we are very lucky to have him as part of our leadership.
He is very sharp and grasps various complex business concepts very quickly.
Not to mention his Aidelkeit and Mensh-lichkeit. He is a very special Jew.
He makes me proud to be part of this community, and support our Beis Din.
i think the ppl who voted for rabbi braun shld pay for his year… sorry i dont think i shld be paying for him….
seems as though i cnt imagine someone else handling the situation with such proffessionalism
Will Rabbi Braun be learning Smicha anytime soon?!
Rabbi Braun. The people who want you to come to crown heights are not your friends. Rumor has it you are a smart man. Save your wife and kids and stay where you are. Only zoros await you in crown heights.
How much is he getting paid?
What is $50,000 if they owe $300,000 already?
although i completely disagree with the psak, i am so happy that zaki, in spite of the opposition, steadfastly will not take a position (on a professional level) beyond the exact words of the beis din, and will carry out his work as long as the psak stands.
i commend, applaud and laud you.
yasher koach, zaki
Would have had great meaning. Great non the less. I am really glad Rabbi Braun will finally be coming. Cant wait. The winds of change in a good way are beginning to blow. I wish the Rabbi much success in his new shlichus.
we can’t wait for you to come
Mazal Tov Rabbi Braun!