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What a Shidduch Resume Says…

It's not what's written in a shidduch resume, but the length of it that tells shadchan Rabbi Zalman Goldberg all he needs to know. Full Story

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Lesson of Dating #1
July 11, 2018 9:23 pm

Only work with Shadchanim who make matches for the sake of a mitzvah. The ones in it for the money don’t always try to find someone a match for the sake of the match.

The problem
July 11, 2018 9:21 pm

In shidduchim today is really the same problem that has permeated all of human history- self-centeredness. I see many people who simply lack the bittul to be in a relationship with another human being. It’s all about me, me, me and it has to be my way. Many are very insecure and filled with fear of intimacy. In truth everyone deals with this on some level since we’re all human, but it seems to me that young people nowadays are struggling much more with these very normal things. I see a great deal of immaturity and I don’t think it’s… Read more »

nice but...
July 11, 2018 8:24 pm

hamaase hu haikar; how about meeting the single and giving them a few prospective ideas?

Resumes are just that, a piece of paper

The old fashioned way...
July 9, 2018 8:16 pm

when you knew a young woman or a young man from childhood, in your village, and watched them grow up, you DID know all the nuances. They were smart, or kind, or outgoing, or whatever… the process was detailed and holistic because you didn’t just see a piece of paper, you saw the entire picture, PLUS family dynamics. My theory is: longer resumes are more similar to the old fashioned way than the bland, two-line description; anyone agree?

To # 12
July 8, 2018 10:41 pm

Right on the mark. I’m not looking for a job, an employer, a boss or someone to pay me to work for them. That’s what a resume is for. I’m looking for my zivug who has already been chosen for me by the Abishtar. The shaddchanim need to meet face to face with the people who are truly searching for their bashert.You can tell more about a person, in person and in dialogue than from an essay or composition. You can’t be candid on paper. You can’t see a person’s reaction on a resume. You can’t see the chain or… Read more »

To #'s 35 and 41. I am #8 (also #28)---
July 8, 2018 10:13 pm

To #35 I said nothing about ‘tricks’ or ‘innovations’. I just said that for myself at least, I need to know I can live with whoever I will marry and that means regarding many important issues. I have had far too much of judgmental attitudes, and cannot marry someone who has any, regarding any issues. So I need to make sure that on many important issues we will either agree or at least she will not feel strongly about something she does not agree with. The only way to make sure of such things is to know the details of… Read more »

video resume
July 8, 2018 6:35 pm

We must catch up with the 21st Century and start submitting Video Resumes which would express the personality of the candidate, their voice, expression, charm and charisma. These are never given over on a paper resume no matter how short or long. WHY NOT SUBMIT A VIDEO CLIP TELLING ABOUT YOURSELF?????? (A usb stick or email link etc.) It would save the wanted dates on some one who sounds good on paper but is totally wrong in person. Been there so I know!!!!

If you say that you figure then out
July 8, 2018 12:31 pm

WITh a long resume. Then why should ripple change? It’s boit you “figuring them out” so if the write it according to your directions then you’ll just be reading yourself – Shadchan crisis

To 28
July 8, 2018 9:03 am

“If you can’t stand the cold and your spouse can’t take it when the room is hot, you two are going to have a lot of problems living together.”
Ha. We have that, but I have to say, out of all issues, we manage this one just fine

Let's be honest.
July 8, 2018 4:44 am

Rabbi Goldberg, Thank you for making a great effort to clarify and give chizuk! Here’s MHO: Us parents that had the zchus to ask the Rebbe about every detail of our shiduch, etc. are completely lost. We never had the smallest doubt because we were guided by the Rebbe. In our day, even if we had a doubt or question about the boy/girl we believed whole heartedly that the Rebbe’s bracha was the single most important thing in our shiduch process. Today, we find ourselves (our children) in a position where we lean on the shadchan and daven that the… Read more »

Words
July 8, 2018 2:43 am

When my daughter was looking for her shidduch, one evening she was withh her classmates at a wedding of a friend and they were discussing resumes. They realized that all of their resumes would have read the same. Chassidish, looking for shlichus, eidel, friendly, caring, sincere etc yet they were all very different people, with different personalities and mindsets. An interview with a shadchan makes a big difference.

author
July 8, 2018 2:33 am

if the author of this article would condense her thoughts into one paragraph instead of 15 i would have a lot more clarity of what she is trying to convey

To #32
July 8, 2018 1:37 am

Bh my really good chaveira got married recently to an incredible chossid, yiras shamayim, and a lamdan to which I am so thankful to the aibeshter for. :):):) And I attribute that basically to the fact that my RESUME was extremely brief:):):):)
#briefresumes:)

Even if resumes are here to stay, ditch the pictures!
July 8, 2018 1:05 am

THAT is what is truly Goyish–judging a potential match by his or her looks! Find out what you need to know about the person’s abilities and Mentschlichkeit, and once you see that they have the strong potential to be a good spouse and parent, THEN go out with him/her (or have your child go out) and see if you/your child like/s their looks, along with Hamshochas HaLev and everything else. I met my husband without seeing a picture (without a resume either, back then); my son met his wife without seeing a picture. He is very computer-savvy and would research… Read more »

To 28
July 8, 2018 12:20 am

#23 is not saying that you should sit around and do nothing.
Of course you have to go out and look for the person you’re gonna marry. But that’s pretty much it. No tricks and new ideas will actually get the person married. The person needs to go out with whoever he/she feels comfortable going out with. And then if hashem decides that the two soulmates should meet, that’s when they will get married. Not through new innovations.

Binyan Adei Ad
July 7, 2018 10:13 pm

It’s not about getting married. It’s about being married to the right person. The wedding day is an artifical finish line, and focusing on that is misguided. I agree with #8. Encouraging our children to “just marry anybody” is the wrong approach, and ends up scaring our young people, when they see their siblings and friends with the wrong person, unhappily ‘sticking it out.’ Obviously relationships take work, and obviously everyone needs to grow, but that needs to be with someone you feel safe and happy with. Look at the Rebbe’s writings. It’s all there.

Resumes are trouble
July 7, 2018 8:46 pm

I agree with number 6. Resumes can turn an otherwise interested person away. They are dangerous and definitely contribute to the shidduch crises. My son refused to write a resume and was able to Boruch Hashem get married easily. He even refused to read the young lady ‘s resume. Meet the person face to face!

to no.8
July 7, 2018 5:13 pm

Oh that’s so well said; you hit the nail on the head.

respect your opinion but dont agree
July 7, 2018 5:07 pm

This works for you and therefore you can tell any prospective clients to send you a brief one so that you can help them better. They can have 2, the short one they send you and the longer one they send other shadchanim. First of all, I heard from a very, very experienced shadchan that the more detailed the resume, the easier and quicker for him to find THE one. Second, as a parent, it is so awkward and embarrassing when a shadchanit is trying hard for you and you keep saying no to every suggestion. It is much easier… Read more »

Mendel, 23
July 7, 2018 6:18 am

“Once one is educated either due to age, experience or because someone was kind enough to educate him or her, one loses the purity in one’s approach.”

So ignorance = purity…

Okay tankyou

Quit the resume
July 6, 2018 6:59 pm

I honestly believe its a big contribution to the shiduch crisis

to #s 23 and 25, I am #8
July 6, 2018 5:23 pm

To #23 If you are just supposed to sit around and wait for H-sh-m to do what he wants, then there is no point of going to a shadchan, at all. It reminds me of the story of the Melech who was told by a navi, that his daghter was going to marry a poor person. The Kind locked her up in a high tower that only he had the key to the entrance for. G-d made the guy go to sleep inside the hide of an animal for warmth on a cold night and a giant bird picked it… Read more »

Rabbi Goldberg wrote a wonderful article
July 6, 2018 4:40 pm

Thank you Rabbi Goldberg for the insightful article. There is so much more to a person than words on a resume. Basic information, such as family, friends, and which yeshivas attended should suffice to do your own research. So many terms today can be defined in so many ways. Just one example what does it even mean to say “frum.”

Wow
July 6, 2018 3:59 pm

Agree with the author 100%. I personally had miserable time in shidduchim until I just let go and said what I really felt, which is that I don’t really care what my future wife looks like on paper, I just want to marry whoever the Oibershter wants me to marry. I met my wife less than a week later and I didn’t read her profile or call any of her references. I didn’t see a picture and it all worked out fine. When we let Hash-m do His job we find out that He knows what we really need better… Read more »

To 22
July 6, 2018 3:56 pm

You missed the point entirely. The whole notion of marrying the right person is a completely goyishe concept. Torah teaches that if you are married, then it automatically is the right person, so just go get married and dont krich in every stupid, petty detail. Obviously pay attention when you meet someone, but in real life it’s more important that you learn how to accept someone else despite their imperfections than it is to find someone who matches your absurd, imaginary idea of what you think you need. This whole idea of “let me find the right one, then I’ll… Read more »

Interesting
July 6, 2018 2:23 pm

Thank you to 20- it’s def. Min hashamayim! Im quite confused by this idea that it’s more important to get married thsn to be msrried to the right person?! Better for who?

#8 parting the sea means
July 6, 2018 2:07 pm

That you don’t do it. You actually can’t part the sea. The one that does it is Hashem. The Yidn were supposed to be quiet and see Hashems salvation. Here too about Shiduchim. We need to concentrate in what Hashem wants. First we need to focus in ourselves to be in tune with what Hashem wants from us. Then when we look for a shiduch we’ll look for someone that is in tune with same values plus the hamshochas halev required. Basically when we concentrate in what Hashem wants which is the purpose of our lives, we just watch what… Read more »

Binyan Adei Ad
July 6, 2018 12:35 pm

It’s not about getting married. It’s about being married to the right person. The wedding day is an artifical finish line, and focusing on that is misguided. I agree with #8. Encouraging our children to “just marry anybody” is the wrong approach, and ends up scaring our young people, when they see their siblings and friends with the wrong person, unhappily ‘sticking it out.’ Obviously relationships take work, and obviously everyone needs to grow, but that needs to be with someone you feel safe and happy with. Look at the Rebbe’s writings. It’s all there.

-16 great idea!!
July 6, 2018 12:18 pm

Many successful shadchanim, mainly in Israel, use classification systems, that aren’t per se about pigeonholing people, but being able to easier understand trends and what values are showstoppers for people

Shidduchim are min hashamayim
July 6, 2018 11:46 am

What if there is nobody you’ve met thus far that you would marry? Or of those people, they wouldn’t marry you? The author seems to claim he could marry anyone, or almost anyone. But shidduchim are from heaven and, very simply, many singles haven’t met their match. Stop putting unnecessary pressure on them by making them feel they’re doing something wrong. Stop judging the most intimate part of someone else’s life: their desires and motivation. If they are one of those minority older singles who don’t want to get married, and not the majority of ones who were simply burned… Read more »

Reminder
July 6, 2018 11:10 am

Looking for a shidduch (if you are mature and ready) is knowing and acknowledging that you want to get married so you can give, share, build, and fill the other person. Dont lose sight .

god sent
July 6, 2018 9:56 am

classic, non quantified requirements in order to feel the “vibes” of the person. so typical of anyone with clout in our circles think they have a sixth sense or something.

How can you assume
July 6, 2018 8:59 am

That an older single doesn’t want to get married? You obviously never experienced that struggle.

Google Forms Killed The Resume
July 6, 2018 8:45 am

I work in HR and receive job resumes all the time, it is very difficult to even read as there is no fixed format and people choose to say what they think is good to say. I started using a simple google form with a list of questions that I would like to know about them, some with written answers and some with a sliding scale to grade themselves. I think shadchanim should make a list of real questions, questions that the way they are answered can define someones charachter. The best thing about it is that it organizes all… Read more »

another parent
July 6, 2018 8:44 am

since no one trusts what’s written on the paper, it makes sense to just list “name, rank, and serial number” so at least people know that you are “in the parsha” good article. another point to ponder: in traditional jewish marriage, the focus is on both parties dedicating themselves to building and maintaining the institution of marriage. in today’s society, there is more focus on the “who” we are marrying, which is not a stable basis to build a Jewish home, as people grow and change. The Rebbe always recommended that the bracha of a good Jewish Marriage is one… Read more »

Thank you!
July 6, 2018 8:05 am

That was very informative and interesting, may you be blessed with lots of success!

Disagree
July 6, 2018 7:49 am

Just because someone is able to “describe themselves ” so to speak in a briefer manner, doesn’t mean they are less picky or more serious about finding a shidduch. And for those who do write a long description about themselves, sometimes it can mean they are more unturned with themselves and know who they are as a person. How many times have I seen a 2 line resume, That tells u barely anything about the individual! And then u see the longer resumes where u are able to get a better picture of the person. A resume should at least… Read more »

Shidduch resume?
July 6, 2018 7:11 am

I remember the good old days when there was no shidduch resume. Where a shadchan just met with you and discussed potential shidduchim. Any resume locks you in. When sending a resume for a job you need to tailor the resume to that particular job leaving out facts that are very helpful but for another job. So this is the same problem with a shidduch resume

Excellent piece
July 6, 2018 5:41 am

Thank you for articulating what many of us have been feeling the shidduch system is flawed I believe you are on target when you say the long resumes that are all about ME and what I want and don’t want is symptomatic of the bigger picture . Too many older singles with too much time on their hands and so they talk and talk and get nowhere. They need to decide if they really WANT to get married and not just talk endlessly about not finding the right one and just hanging out with other eligible singles and never choosing… Read more »

What's the point?
July 6, 2018 4:29 am

Perhaps the concise vs long description has more to do with their writing skills and not how their approach to life will be. This article can make singles feel really uncomfortable and start second guessing themselves and their resumes. They’re under enough stress

Shlomo
July 6, 2018 1:07 am

Honestly, you really learn very, very little about the person from their resume. Especially a shidduch resume. Someone can write they are an outgoing person, because in their mind they are, yet in real life they are really not. And obviously so many more examples. In general, especially in the work force, short and concise resumes that leave the reader wanting more, are what get you hired. You need to be clear. You need to be to the point. But, the most important thing is the interview. You must make a good impression. We are so much more than what… Read more »

if making a shidduch is as hard as parting the Sea:
July 6, 2018 1:06 am

Then it must mean that for each person, there is only a very narrow set of traits, that would be compatible with their personality.
So it should help to find the specific shidduch for each person if they do have a long entry about what they are looking for.
If someone needs a part for their washing machine, they do not just say “oh give me any maytag part”, no they specify part number 3458201-c for maytag model 5305 (or whatever the actual numbers are for a specific part for a specific machine.

Thank you Rabbi Goldberg.
July 5, 2018 11:56 pm

Great & insightful article!

Resumes
July 5, 2018 11:34 pm

The SHIDDUCH CRISIS is to a great extent due to the resume innovation. When people communicate there is a much clearer idea of who the prospective shidduch candidate is and what they are looking for. Thanks to the era of emails quantity destroys quality. A shadchan can receive hundreds of emails . Many are written by friends or professionals . How many of them clearly describe the person? Rather its about writing up nice description. It can’t ever compare to meeting in person and being impressed which would lead to an idea of what they are looking for. The sooner… Read more »

Parent
July 5, 2018 11:30 pm

It’s not what is ON the resume that is significant, it’s what is NOT said. No matter how long the profile is (& I do not want to be bogged down reading pages of minutae!) read between the lines. Then ask people closer to you than the other party about the prospective match. I find I get more info on the phone by listening to the tone of voice & hesitations.

So in other words ...
July 5, 2018 11:18 pm

Essentially what you are actually saying is that it’s great when people have no real wants or needs and are thrilled to marry anyone that breathes.

Amazing work; long awaited article!
July 5, 2018 10:51 pm

He really crossed the I’s; and dotted the T’s. Finally someone, who is concerned; legitimately about proper marriage of age.

Huh?
July 5, 2018 10:49 pm

You want the resumes to be long enough, and with enough information, so that they can marry each other without even going out? Why would anyone put their life story on a piece of paper that is passed around so publicly? I know I wouldn’t. Isn’t dating about finding out about one another?

Fact
July 5, 2018 10:21 pm

If no one suggest anything normal to you when you are younger, you get older.

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