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a yeshivah bochur
December 9, 2017 11:47 pm

as a current yeshivah bochur learning in zall I want to tell you from experience thee truth about drinking in yeshivah parents like to blame the yeshivah and hanhala of the yeshivah that their kids drink, I think its time you learn the truth its really all about how you raised your kids there are three types of bochrim by drinking 1) you have one bochury that won’t drink anything those guys are generally bochurim who learned on their own to stay away from it 2) the guys that say only 4 were raised like a normal chassidishe bochurim that… Read more »

Anonymous
December 9, 2017 7:43 pm

The rebbe knows what he is talking about, when the rebbe said bochrim should not have more than 4, that implies that up to 4 is ok and good EVEN FOR BOCHRIM. I also highly doubt that the bochrim that keep the takonah are the ones with the problems. Therefor I think even in mesivtas mashkeh should be given out with it being stressed the importance of keeping the rebbe mh’m takonah and what the reason for mashkeh is and how mashkeh is only ment to be used for good things not Stam drinking chas vesholom.

To #2
December 8, 2017 7:01 am

Bs”d
Very well said (the end, not the beginning)
If you don’t drink when you gonna younger – then when you find out about the effects- you are much more likely to become addicted

To 12
December 8, 2017 3:41 am

Sooooooooooooo not true, aperently you haven’t been to a farbrengen with young bochurim in a long time

#15
December 8, 2017 3:39 am

“the key is moderation”
If they see that at home and school it’s locked up, but adults can have it, then it’s gonna give them an even bigger push to try it, and that’s not supervised! Give it at school- starting from a young age and teach them how to use it!

A gut Yom tov

Well said.
December 7, 2017 11:08 pm

I find the post well written and spot on. But as in the previous post (about street drugs), there’s a fundamental 4th item – which is mentioned in passing here.- The “void.” If there’s nothing aching that I seek to soothe, I will rarely seek an escape (of any mind altering substance). This void drives people to any addiction. IMO the most important focus nowadays is to have and provide (if you’re educating) purpose, meaning and connection to other people/community. If someone is missing those or lost them, they will almost certainly seek out things to numb and distract from… Read more »

mum
December 7, 2017 6:27 pm

stop giving out in school no matter what and mothers and fathers your kids r looking how YOU are behaving . they are copying u.

Concerned chossid
December 7, 2017 6:02 pm

Rosh hashana bedarkei hachasidus ibilimud hachasidus! a gut gebentchte yor! lchaim vilivracha! we should be zoiche to say lchaim with the coming of moshiach shlita speedily in our days bimheiro viyomeinu, amen!

Bad idea
December 7, 2017 4:40 pm

There is a liquor store on Kingston avenue and I see a quite a few young Chasidium going in their to buy liquor or Wine, not just for Yom Tov or a Farbrengen

Nigunim done right have the power zone in the fabrengeners
December 7, 2017 10:29 am

Alcohol is not necessary

Crown hieghts
December 7, 2017 10:20 am

We see at weddings and even Bar mitzvahs there are full bars.
Everyone lines up to drink. Let’s see where there is a problem

I like mashke
December 7, 2017 10:07 am

Another worthless article did you work on yourself that you feel the need to change other people i happen to agree with this article but I know how difficult it is to to change my self i have no intention of changing some one els mashke and drugs are the least of our problems we need to empower the youth to make smartlife decisions but to do that they need a good dose of self esteem let’s do something about the root of the problem not the symptom in my opinion the most pressing issues is child abuse and emotional… Read more »

#1 Awesome… Chemical dependency to Fabreng Effectively???
December 7, 2017 9:31 am

Mesivtas need to be able to have effective farbrengens Without exposing the young brain to fatal addictions that destroyed lives and marriages. Our kids are dying we need to Do something quick… Alcohol can be a gateway to drugs anything that alters the state of mind before the age 21 is putting kids at risk

Yes Lechaim, but...
December 7, 2017 8:04 am

There is no reason that teen bochurim should be drinking hard liquor. 1. We should be training our young to be inspired in their Yiddishkeit through Chassidus. Any “spiritual high” experienced at a farbrengen lasts as long as the mashke stays in the system and fizzles out by the next morning. 2. When one is inspired through Chassidus, this can have a long lasting effect, and one can take that up to the next level through a chassidishe farbrengen with a mashpia farbrenging or through sharing chasdidishe stories etc. 3. A chadsidishe farbrengen does not have to have mashke (especially… Read more »

To number 3 and 4
December 7, 2017 7:07 am

The author said nothing about not saying lechaim at a farbrengen. The term moderation was used, and that applies also at a farbrengen. And this is in accordance with the torah as well, as mentioned a few times in sichos.

#4.
December 7, 2017 6:56 am

Really there Rebbe was majors for not more then 4 kelshkes, and th was for adults until the age of 40. That is chassidus. Chassidus is when a group of chassidim can sit together in a fabregen and just look at a bottle of mashke so it can warm their hearts and open themselves to learn how better themselves! Seriously this is the direction of Torah and chassidus . The idea of mind of matter and doing what is right, of protecting and guarding ones life ! That is holiness. Chassidus and Torah is NOT about alcohol consumption, it never… Read more »

#4u need to wake up
December 7, 2017 6:31 am

You need a reality check
Kids are dying from overdosing

not for lubavitchers
December 7, 2017 1:21 am

Jews, let alone Orthodox Jews, let alone Chassidm, let alone Chabad Chassidm dont take direction from secular goyish thought…we turn to the Torah and the Rebbe which are one and the same

Please do not post narishkeit

You cannot blind yourself from the fact that..
December 7, 2017 1:10 am

Saying L’chaim and taking “a bissel mashke” on occasion is a well established practice in “Darkei Hachassidus” and encouraged by our Rebbes and Gedolei Hachassidim throughout many generations. I do not support addiction in any way. No extreme is acceptable, (including the extreme of never using alcohol to say a L’chaim).

How about incentives for Shuls and Schools to adapt:
December 7, 2017 12:07 am

“Alcohol Free Zone”Club Frum Teen Death from addiction is at an all time high in the past two years….we need to start from somewhere to save the next generation…… Times have changed!!!! ….kids are dying from alocohol/substance addiction- We the parents need to listen to the professionals and demand that our schools become ” ALCOHOL FREE ZONE”. IF A CHILD WAS FATALLY ALLERGIC TO PEANUTS… The school would take ALL precautions….well many of our youth have developed an addiction to alcohol because they were introduced in Mesivta to ALCOHOL…….STUDIES SHOW – Adults who did not drink until 21- are far… Read more »

Curious
December 6, 2017 11:14 pm

What about lust and s** addiction? That is rampant now all over the world and is the nisayon of this generation no doubt.

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