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‘Shorts Means Short in Knowledge’

The Rebbe writes about men's wearing of shorts: "A result of being short minded in understanding and knowledge." Full Story

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effecting
August 17, 2015 12:38 pm

men have an effect on women and women have an effect on men so if both keep to their tznius in a proper way, hopefully they will change for the better.

From #31 to #32
August 16, 2015 9:23 pm

I don’t disagree. That is also a huge embarrassment which is the cause of this problem with the shorts.

nebach to # 31
August 16, 2015 6:23 pm

it is an extreme eye sore/ disaster to see walking down kingston women with skirts to what ever and `tichels half way falling off #talkabouteyesores

lets not be such tzaddikim here lets start with the bigger issue that of women being extremely untznius in public

Embarrassing
August 14, 2015 7:24 am

Really embarrassing to see frum men in shorts. It makes one look like an ignoramus. Please to the men that sport these, if after this article you stop wearing them, it will be a huge improvement. Btw it is an eyesore. No thank you , please spare me from having to see you bare legs!

specifics
August 13, 2015 11:30 pm

Where in shulchan aruch does it speak about men’s shorts? and is there a shorts that is considered tznius for men (e.g., if goes below the knee)?

To #17
August 13, 2015 11:04 pm

Yes you can wear a short sleeved shirts with a kapota covering wherever you go

To 11
August 13, 2015 7:20 pm

I agree that men should be tznius but don’t talk about comfort.. Shorts are for sure more comfortable than cotton pants, as a man I can testify to that so please don’t tell us what is more comfortable if you haven’t been in the situation.

too general, let's get specific
August 13, 2015 5:53 pm

In regard to going to the ocean for mikveh use: I figured out to use a water bottle tied to the swim trunks to keep them from getting lost in the water. Should I also wear a long sleeve shirt into the ocean and attach a water bottle to the shirt too? Thanks to all the poskim and researchers.

To number 5 and all the women
August 13, 2015 11:21 am

The article also address women!
I agree that it’s time to address men being not tznius as well.

Short sleeve shirts
August 13, 2015 11:19 am

What is the problem with that for men? I heard that more men it must cover the shoulders i.e no sleeveless. I get there being a problem with muscle tight shirts but short sleeve? Completely tznius for men.

EXACTLY! No. 22
August 13, 2015 11:01 am

Shorts for men and short sleeve shirts is not the same thing!

Halacha
August 13, 2015 10:02 am

Their is no Halachic Issue with men wearing shorts(that pass the knee especially)
And comparing Men wearing shorts to women dressing immodesly is just wrong

Short sleeve shirts
August 13, 2015 6:17 am

there is a difference between shorts and short sleeve shirts.

Camp
August 13, 2015 3:33 am

I feel camp often allows shorts and very casual, modern clothes, so then the boys think it’s acceptable…

#10
August 12, 2015 10:43 pm

Well said!

short sleeve shirts (#13)
August 12, 2015 10:16 pm

If you look in many pictures of the Rebbe (with Tefillin) you can see the Rebbe wearing short sleeve shirts.

Take a stand
August 12, 2015 9:32 pm

Some of the ‘frum’ new clothing companies popping up are not in compliance to the Rebbes horaahs listed clearly above. Will someone please say something?

Question 13 is a good one
August 12, 2015 9:23 pm

I was wondering. The Rebbe always wore short sleeved white dress shirts with a pocket under his Kappote. Can we wear a short sleeved shirt?

Halachos of Tznius for Men
August 12, 2015 9:11 pm

The sefer Kvuda Bas Melech includes very detailed halachic guidance regarding tznius for (also) men.

to # 9
August 12, 2015 9:10 pm

See
1) the Yiddish sicha (Sichos Kodesh version).
2) the Hebrew Sicha Shlach 5723 in footnote # 38.

To 13
August 12, 2015 8:49 pm

The Rebbe wore short sleeves.

Men-Short Sleeves
August 12, 2015 8:20 pm

What is the Rebber’s attitude to men wearing short sleeve shirts.

and by the way
August 12, 2015 7:27 pm

With all due respect, its pretty awful when they wear shorts, totally unbecoming and not the best of sights!:( pretty ugly in most cases

Stress
August 12, 2015 7:24 pm

I think its only right that we get the message across to the yungerleit of today about the subject of them wearing shorts; Its as important , I feel, for the men to hear and read this, as it is for the women to correct their shortcomings! The Rebbe is clear and specific over here regarding the subject of them wearing shorts and he He felt about it; Very negative, as is obvious from the above letter. A cotton pair of long pants is just as comfortable and cool as shorts are, lets not kid ourselves, or is it all… Read more »

FACE IT
August 12, 2015 7:09 pm

The rebbe has said thousands of times, the woman is the “akeres habayis “- the foundation of the home, if the foundation is strong and solid the edifice will be strong, if the foundTion is floundering so will the rest of the edifice. FACE IT, a woman either makes it (the home) or breaks it! The lack of tznius on her part encourages the same from her husband which was ultimately breaks down the whole family unit . A smart woman would recognize this and strengthen her tznius, no matter how far she may have strayed. Guaranteed she will reap… Read more »

In English
August 12, 2015 6:21 pm

“In English it is called wearing shorts” where in the sicha does it say that ?

short on knowledge
August 12, 2015 5:57 pm

The yeshivas should teach this to the boys at an early age, not wait until they are older.

Shabbos
August 12, 2015 4:28 pm

Shabbos nachmu I was in a bungalow colony and saw a few yungerleit (not sure if that is correct name ) walking around in shorts and T shirts. Some with Tzitzis some without.

Not fair to blame ladies only.

It filters DOWN!
August 12, 2015 3:19 pm

Look at our children – girls wearing tighter and shorter, no stockings, flip-flops, very low neck lines. Boys obsessed with sports and cars dressing like secular boys. Is it too late?

To #1
August 12, 2015 3:00 pm

This article is specifically focusing on men’s tznius, and you feel the need to bring in women’s issues?

Food for thought
August 12, 2015 2:22 pm

Yes, I can agree with most of the above. And at least it’s acknowledging men’s immodest dress, and not just women’s for a change!

Boruch N. Hoffinger 'HaKohaine ' BS"D
August 12, 2015 12:49 pm

When you follow ‘Esav’ instead of ‘Yaacov’ you’re going down a stupid & destructive path. ‘Esav’ CANNOT CONDUCT A SOCIETY! — A FOOL AND IDIOT!

Agree
August 12, 2015 12:23 pm

Tznius applies to men, too.

Time For Chizuk
August 12, 2015 11:56 am

Sadly – too many who attache themselves to the Chassidic name – choose to flirt with fire – by not wearing stockings, by wearing high heels, short hemlines. It is sad to see so many shun the beauty and majesty of tznius. They have lost their connection – they have lost their priorities – they have lost the simcha shel mitzva and replaced it all with vanity and pritzus. Let us work to restore our crowns – the crown each of us has – the crown of tznius and yiras shamayim.

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