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    ‘Shorts Means Short in Knowledge’

    The Rebbe writes about men's wearing of shorts: "A result of being short minded in understanding and knowledge." Full Story

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    Time For Chizuk
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    Time For Chizuk

    Sadly – too many who attache themselves to the Chassidic name – choose to flirt with fire – by not wearing stockings, by wearing high heels, short hemlines. It is sad to see so many shun the beauty and majesty of tznius. They have lost their connection – they have lost their priorities – they have lost the simcha shel mitzva and replaced it all with vanity and pritzus. Let us work to restore our crowns – the crown each of us has – the crown of tznius and yiras shamayim.

    Agree
    Guest
    Agree

    Tznius applies to men, too.

    Boruch N. Hoffinger   'HaKohaine '           BS"D
    Guest
    Boruch N. Hoffinger 'HaKohaine ' BS"D

    When you follow ‘Esav’ instead of ‘Yaacov’ you’re going down a stupid & destructive path. ‘Esav’ CANNOT CONDUCT A SOCIETY! — A FOOL AND IDIOT!

    Food for thought
    Guest
    Food for thought

    Yes, I can agree with most of the above. And at least it’s acknowledging men’s immodest dress, and not just women’s for a change!

    To #1
    Guest
    To #1

    This article is specifically focusing on men’s tznius, and you feel the need to bring in women’s issues?

    It filters DOWN!
    Guest
    It filters DOWN!

    Look at our children – girls wearing tighter and shorter, no stockings, flip-flops, very low neck lines. Boys obsessed with sports and cars dressing like secular boys. Is it too late?

    Shabbos
    Guest
    Shabbos

    Shabbos nachmu I was in a bungalow colony and saw a few yungerleit (not sure if that is correct name ) walking around in shorts and T shirts. Some with Tzitzis some without.

    Not fair to blame ladies only.

    short on knowledge
    Guest
    short on knowledge

    The yeshivas should teach this to the boys at an early age, not wait until they are older.

    In English
    Guest
    In English

    “In English it is called wearing shorts” where in the sicha does it say that ?

    FACE IT
    Guest
    FACE IT

    The rebbe has said thousands of times, the woman is the “akeres habayis “- the foundation of the home, if the foundation is strong and solid the edifice will be strong, if the foundTion is floundering so will the rest of the edifice. FACE IT, a woman either makes it (the home) or breaks it! The lack of tznius on her part encourages the same from her husband which was ultimately breaks down the whole family unit . A smart woman would recognize this and strengthen her tznius, no matter how far she may have strayed. Guaranteed she will reap… Read more »

    Stress
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    Stress

    I think its only right that we get the message across to the yungerleit of today about the subject of them wearing shorts; Its as important , I feel, for the men to hear and read this, as it is for the women to correct their shortcomings! The Rebbe is clear and specific over here regarding the subject of them wearing shorts and he He felt about it; Very negative, as is obvious from the above letter. A cotton pair of long pants is just as comfortable and cool as shorts are, lets not kid ourselves, or is it all… Read more »

    and by the way
    Guest
    and by the way

    With all due respect, its pretty awful when they wear shorts, totally unbecoming and not the best of sights!:( pretty ugly in most cases

    Men-Short Sleeves
    Guest
    Men-Short Sleeves

    What is the Rebber’s attitude to men wearing short sleeve shirts.

    To 13
    Guest
    To 13

    The Rebbe wore short sleeves.

    to # 9
    Guest
    to # 9

    See
    1) the Yiddish sicha (Sichos Kodesh version).
    2) the Hebrew Sicha Shlach 5723 in footnote # 38.

    Halachos of Tznius for Men
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    Halachos of Tznius for Men

    The sefer Kvuda Bas Melech includes very detailed halachic guidance regarding tznius for (also) men.

    Question 13 is a good one
    Guest
    Question 13 is a good one

    I was wondering. The Rebbe always wore short sleeved white dress shirts with a pocket under his Kappote. Can we wear a short sleeved shirt?

    Take a stand
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    Take a stand

    Some of the ‘frum’ new clothing companies popping up are not in compliance to the Rebbes horaahs listed clearly above. Will someone please say something?

    short sleeve shirts (#13)
    Guest
    short sleeve shirts (#13)

    If you look in many pictures of the Rebbe (with Tefillin) you can see the Rebbe wearing short sleeve shirts.

    #10
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    #10

    Well said!

    Camp
    Guest
    Camp

    I feel camp often allows shorts and very casual, modern clothes, so then the boys think it’s acceptable…

    Short sleeve shirts
    Guest
    Short sleeve shirts

    there is a difference between shorts and short sleeve shirts.

    Halacha
    Guest
    Halacha

    Their is no Halachic Issue with men wearing shorts(that pass the knee especially)
    And comparing Men wearing shorts to women dressing immodesly is just wrong

    EXACTLY!   No. 22
    Guest
    EXACTLY! No. 22

    Shorts for men and short sleeve shirts is not the same thing!

    Short sleeve shirts
    Guest
    Short sleeve shirts

    What is the problem with that for men? I heard that more men it must cover the shoulders i.e no sleeveless. I get there being a problem with muscle tight shirts but short sleeve? Completely tznius for men.

    To number 5 and all the women
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    To number 5 and all the women

    The article also address women!
    I agree that it’s time to address men being not tznius as well.

    too general, let's get specific
    Guest
    too general, let's get specific

    In regard to going to the ocean for mikveh use: I figured out to use a water bottle tied to the swim trunks to keep them from getting lost in the water. Should I also wear a long sleeve shirt into the ocean and attach a water bottle to the shirt too? Thanks to all the poskim and researchers.

    To 11
    Guest
    To 11

    I agree that men should be tznius but don’t talk about comfort.. Shorts are for sure more comfortable than cotton pants, as a man I can testify to that so please don’t tell us what is more comfortable if you haven’t been in the situation.

    To #17
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    To #17

    Yes you can wear a short sleeved shirts with a kapota covering wherever you go

    specifics
    Guest
    specifics

    Where in shulchan aruch does it speak about men’s shorts? and is there a shorts that is considered tznius for men (e.g., if goes below the knee)?

    Embarrassing
    Guest
    Embarrassing

    Really embarrassing to see frum men in shorts. It makes one look like an ignoramus. Please to the men that sport these, if after this article you stop wearing them, it will be a huge improvement. Btw it is an eyesore. No thank you , please spare me from having to see you bare legs!

    nebach to # 31
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    nebach to # 31

    it is an extreme eye sore/ disaster to see walking down kingston women with skirts to what ever and `tichels half way falling off #talkabouteyesores

    lets not be such tzaddikim here lets start with the bigger issue that of women being extremely untznius in public

    From #31 to #32
    Guest
    From #31 to #32

    I don’t disagree. That is also a huge embarrassment which is the cause of this problem with the shorts.

    effecting
    Guest
    effecting

    men have an effect on women and women have an effect on men so if both keep to their tznius in a proper way, hopefully they will change for the better.

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