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Say Goodbye to Terra Chips

The Kof-K Kosher Supervision has notified the public that Terra Chips, the popular snack and topping on salads, is no longer certified Bishul Yisroel. It is owned by the New York-based Hain Celestial Group. Full Story

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Don't need to be by
October 26, 2021 6:25 pm

It’s not olah al shulchan melachim

Incorrect
Reply to  Don't need to be by
October 26, 2021 9:27 pm

Chips may not, but as whole potatoes or other vegetables they do.

So what?
Reply to  Incorrect
October 27, 2021 3:04 pm

By that standard there is nothing in the world that is not oleh al shulchan melachim. What vegetable, grain, meat, or any other ingredient is never used in some gourmet recipe that would be served at a fancy dinner?

The fact is that the overwhelming majority of poskim who have considered the question have ruled that chips are exempt from bishul yisroel.

Kosher
October 26, 2021 6:38 pm

Is it still kosher? Or just not pas yisroel?

Read carefully
Reply to  Kosher
October 26, 2021 7:59 pm

It is not BISHUL yisroel. There is no heter in shulchan aruch permitting bishul ak”um.

Umm
Reply to  Read carefully
October 27, 2021 12:13 am

Be careful before making a “bold statement” like that!

Kosher
October 26, 2021 6:39 pm

Is it still kosher? Or just not bishul,yisroel?

Still kosher
Reply to  Kosher
October 27, 2021 1:06 pm

Same kosher supervision. Just not bishul yisroel

Dave
October 26, 2021 6:41 pm

I never knew they were bishul yisroel in the first place
most rabbonim agree that potato chips don’t need to be
does this article imply that other chips with chof-k are bishul yisroel?

Follow your Rav
Reply to  Dave
October 26, 2021 9:52 pm

My father was told by the Lubavitcher Rav- Rabbi ZS Dworkin OBM that potato chips should be bishul Yisroel.
Follow your Rav …

Date
October 26, 2021 7:02 pm

Anyone know what Julian date of 29521 is?

29521
Reply to  Date
October 26, 2021 8:29 pm

It’s a number that will be found somewhere stamped on the product. It usually is read xxx (date) – xx (year). Oct 22 = 295 and the year is 21 (2021)
The way we know that it’s 295 is that Oct 22 is the 295th day of the year (out of 365). The Julian Calendar counts the number of days from Jan 1 (001) all the way to Dec 31 (365) – take into account that Feb only has 28 days and April, June, September, and November all have 30 days, not 31

Maybe it is read differently
Reply to  29521
October 27, 2021 2:41 am

In israel it would be 29th of 5th month 2021. Is that possibly the case here?

Julian code
Reply to  Date
October 26, 2021 9:10 pm

It was produced on the 295th day of the calendar year 2021.

Date...
Reply to  Date
October 26, 2021 9:23 pm

May 29, 2021

It means
Reply to  Date
October 26, 2021 9:27 pm

the 295th day of 2021, which is Sept. 22.

Try Again !
Reply to  It means
October 27, 2021 3:01 pm

Do your maths again, it’s Oct. 22 ’21

Try Again !
Reply to  It means
October 27, 2021 3:04 pm

Jan = 31 Feb = 28 Mar = 31 Apr = 30 May = 31 Jun = 30 Jul = 31 Aug = 31 Sep = 30

All months above = 273

295 – 273 = 22

22 Oct 2021

Shame
October 26, 2021 7:13 pm

Shame we loved Terra chips.

Any good alternative?

Does it need to be
October 26, 2021 7:22 pm

Why does it need to be bishul Yisroel?

Hillel
Reply to  Does it need to be
October 26, 2021 8:02 pm

It is considered”high-end”, (oleh al shulchan melochim).

WISE brand chips
October 26, 2021 8:25 pm

The WISE brand chips are also not bishul yisroel, yet are sold in local stores, consumed by heimshe families and accepted in our schools

Menachem lasker
Reply to  WISE brand chips
October 27, 2021 8:05 am

It is not sold in local jewish store
However it is sold under the name of libers with bishul yisrorel

Became Tref, but in the media call it bishul
October 27, 2021 2:38 am

Remind me of the escalopes ( shellfish) from Thailand in Tuna tins …. the issue was reported as …. not bishul israel.
Kaf-Kol, כשמו כן הוא

Concerned commentor
October 27, 2021 9:46 am

Refer to article published by Kof-K entitled “Bishul Akum on Potatoes”

“…since fried potatoes are not fit to be served at a kings’ table, potato chips would not require bishul yisroel. This is the opinion of the majority of the poskim.”

https://www.kof-k.org/articles/040308030441W-37%20Bishul%20Akum%20on%20Potatoes.pdf 

The OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of poskim
October 27, 2021 3:08 pm

Say it’s not a problem at all. Only a small minority say it’s a problem. So unless you personally, knowing this fact, took a neder to eat only chips that are bishul yisroel, there is no need to say goodbye to Terra chips. Ess gezunterheit, and those who don’t like it kennen gein fayfen.

Poskim
Reply to  The OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of poskim
October 27, 2021 9:38 pm

Who are the vast majority? Can you provide a list?

Potato chips
Reply to  The OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of poskim
October 28, 2021 9:22 pm

We’re not even talking potato chips here. These are vegetables a lot fancier then potato chips.

bishul yisroel
October 31, 2021 11:38 am

for something to need to be bishul yisroel it needs to be uneatable (normally) raw, AND an important food. many vegies can be eaten raw. if there is a pack made from something that CAN be eat raw, theres no problem. In halacha, an important food is indicated by its original state. many rabbomin consider a potato important and many dont. that is something to discuse with your rov. note that many of these chips are not from potatoes, so all these variables are important and make a diffrence. lets also remember that as yidin we are growing in our… Read more »

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