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AnonymousPlease clarifybava kamma 60bIn a nutshell40% of people hospitalized are between age 20-44 Recent comment authors
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why?
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why?

Coronavirus doesn’t hang around in the air. If everyone is maintaining a healthy distance, there’s nothing to worry about. Just don’t cough or sneeze on anyone!

Reader
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Reader

Don’t question Das Torah.

Huh?
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Huh?

If u question this u apparently do not respect human life. I saw these minyanim. Too many people together. And risking lives. Have a heart. Think of your fellow jew

Thank you
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Thank you

Thank you to our Rabbonim.

elchonon hellinger
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elchonon hellinger

Which alternate universe do you live in?

First of all it’s very hard to distance yourself from Friends and family

Second of all many people are not keeping to the rules.. it’s a plauge !

Its shfichas damim!!

Minyan is not yehareg v’al yavor

Don't say things you don't know
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Don't say things you don't know

Actually studies say that it does stay in the air for up to 3 hours. It’s about time these minyanim are cancelled. We gotta stop being frum on the elderly populations expense.

40% of people hospitalized are between age 20-44
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40% of people hospitalized are between age 20-44

We have to stop pretending this is only dangerous for elderly people!! It can cause hospitalization, permanent lung damage, and r”l even death for healthy young people too!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I read today that the virus does stay in the air for 4hours

It is not okay to just make stuff up
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It is not okay to just make stuff up

The disease stays in the air for 3 hours. Read the science and listen to the rabbonim.

In theory, yes. But...
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In theory, yes. But...

We all saw the pics yesterday. People are NOT keeping a safe distance. They were right on top of each other.

And you know how it is. Even if you try, men will invariably speak with one another, getting closer and potentially infecting others. Some will need help with tefillin. Others will share siddurim.

The Rabbis have ruled wisely. As hard as it is. As much as it pains our hearts, we must get through this together with as little loss of life as possible.

Huh?
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Huh?

I watched these minyanom. No distancing. Stuff kept on same table. If u are questioning this u apparently do not respect human life

Huh?
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Huh?

I watched these minyanim. Was not enough distancing. Putting stuff on same table. If you’re even questioning this u apparently do not respect human life. Pikuach nefesh. Aha as yisroel. Save a life

Thank you
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Thank you

I see u must be very frum that u feel u need minyanim. Firstly as previous posts said. As frum people we don’t question da’as Torah. That’s being frum. And causing someone to get sick is def not frum. Please try to take this to heart

Clarification:
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Clarification:

If the Minyan is held in a way that doesn’t bring to social contact, for example, if each member of the Minyan stands on his own porch, etc.
Then the Minyan MAY be held.

One of the Rabbonim confirmed this.

Not considered a minyan.
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Not considered a minyan.

A minyan must be together in one place in order to be considered a minyan.

Confirmed?
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Confirmed?

Which rabbi?

Please clarify
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Please clarify

It would be very helpful to me if you could post who confirmed this ? Ty so much

Why not say / recommend
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Why not say / recommend

Outdoor minyanim with space between people, and only healthy and men with low risk, under 60 etc? To ban it all doesn’t make sense medically. And if you take too much of an extreme people do not listen.

Abba
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Abba

People by now known this diasease is serious and will hopefully listen

Thank you
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Thank you

Why oh why are people second guessing our Rabbonim and our doctors. Where is this chutzpah coming from. Ur solution not practical. Makes no sense. And listen to our Rabbonim. Only not good comes from questioning and going against Rabbonim. Tune into rabbi YY Jacobson on this topic. He should set u straight

I've seen it
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I've seen it

I thought that could work, but I was proven wrong in action. People over 60 come join anyway, and let’s not mention that the people pass each other getting to their place and touch the same siddurim or sefer torah without realizing!

As an added bonus(!), people in their 40s are in critical condition as well!!

This concept sounds good in theory, but is dangerous in action!

elchonon hellinger
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elchonon hellinger

I’m sorry I don’t know how you got here to the site but failed to see the rest of the news?

There is no such thing anymore as healthy under 60 there was a healthier 40 year old who is now in critical care fighting for his life

Please I’m begging you to stop this misconception people are dying

Hodu La'shem
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Hodu La'shem

A big rosh yeshiva in Lakewood today released a short drasha about how we have to be machmir in the mitzvah of pikuach nefesh. It’s a must-listen. Davening with a minyan when there’s a chance it could harm or kill someone has no place in a community like Crown Heights where people are machmir not to eat gebroks or unpeeled veggies.

Pappy
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Pappy

Doing so has no place in ANY community, whether Lubavitch, Chassidish, Litvish, Sefardish, Modernish, or whatever.

space it out.
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space it out.

There is a way to do it if you do it otdoors withing six feet of each other like I some are doing.

what is wrong with you
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what is wrong with you

the rabbonim said NO!!! then davening with a minyan becomes a grave sin …..you are defying rabbonim. how dare you think that you are smarter and better and understand torah more than they do!!! the word of the rabbonim is torah….doing anything else you are oiver the averah of adding to torah and changing torah as you see fit. STOP already

Daven at home means daven at home
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Daven at home means daven at home

Daven alone in your home. Don’t try to be a lawyer and look for loopholes when lives are at stake..it is going to crash the entire medical system.

Healthy prayer
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Healthy prayer

Outdoor minyanim are an excellent way to continue community prayer without the risks of spreading the virus. The UV rays of the sun kill viruses so they don’t “hang out” in the air. As long as the men keep safe distances from each other, outdoor minyanim should be the davening of choice.

You're a scientist?
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You're a scientist?

Clearly you know better that the drs, epidemiologists and rabbanim. You know how mnyanim work and how the virus works and you know that killing people is ok as long as you did it outside under the UV rays.

Can someone please clarify the data
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Can someone please clarify the data

How many people in the community were hospitalized with covid? Too much speculation by the general public about exactly what is going on, we could use a few facts.

Facts
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Facts

You need facts? Here’s a fact. The Gedaliah Society (which is all the local medical professionals) and the Rabbanim put out very clear notices.
LISTEN TO THEM.
A little kabalas ol will save lives.
Why do you need to know exactly who is in critical condition for you to believe that it is true?

Follow halacha, listen to the Rabbonim.
Guest
Follow halacha, listen to the Rabbonim.

If you don’t you are literally complicit.

In a nutshell
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In a nutshell

I saw Rabbi Shmuel Lesches posted on Whatsapp: “People will rely on rabbonim to eat on Yom Kippur, but not about abstaining from a minyan. Go figure.”
Food for thought.

bava kamma 60b
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bava kamma 60b

read what RAva says about staying inside his house during a mageyfa

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