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    Rabbi Barred From Airport Prayer

    Liverpool, UK Shliach Shmuli Brown is demanding a public apology from Heathrow airport after being told to remove his shoes inside its multifaith prayer room. Update: Heathrow has issued an apology. Full Story

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    horible
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    horible

    england is being taken over by muslims

    Parity...
    Guest
    Parity...

    Make a deal with the airport authorities: ‘OK, I”ll take off my shoes if the ‘Moslems’ in England observe ‘The 7 Noahide Laws.’

    SOLUTION
    Guest
    SOLUTION

    How about the airport making a Jewish ONLY prayer room…this way we don’t offend the goyim and more importantly we don’t have to Daven in room where there is avoda zara being practiced.
    Absolutely obsurd!!!!

    Halocho
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    Halocho

    I think i have been in that room, and i think that according to halocho you are not allowed to daven or enter there, since it is also a Christian prayer room and there is a cross there in a frame.

    Appalled
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    Appalled

    Everyone, including government officials are scared of Muslim protests. Rabbi Shmuli Brown, nor any of his family and friends, will launch a terror attack at this travesty of justice

    Frequent traveler
    Guest
    Frequent traveler

    I travel a lot and if I have to will put on talis and tefilin in an open area or near the gate, you never know how it could effect another Jew seeing this.

    DON'T BEND
    Guest
    DON'T BEND

    By not using this room at the airport you are giving in in a different way. You should continue to use the room but NOT take off your shoes. By stopping to use the room you are encouraging them to continue. The airport should have the guts to say to them, “if you don’t like it, you are very welcome to get the hell out of our country”.

    not a place  for a Rabbi to pray in
    Guest
    not a place for a Rabbi to pray in

    dont be ridiculous u shouldnt go there anyway (even tho its ur choice coz it has a cross in it.) also ur making a big thing out of nothing making a chilul Hashem

    Valid complaint
    Guest
    Valid complaint

    But there are probably issues with davening in a multi-faith prayer room. Finding a public place to daven especially these days is not easy.

    choose a better place
    Guest
    choose a better place

    There are other places to Daven. You dont belong in there.

    Multi function
    Guest
    Multi function

    Davened there a number of years ago and there was no cross there then. As far as I know there is no issue in davening in a multi faith prayer room that does not display any symbols

    unbelievable cheek
    Guest
    unbelievable cheek

    That’s all they have to worry about isn’t it
    Chana simcha

    wow
    Guest
    wow

    that’s so ridiculous! if they made you take off your shoes then they should also make everyone do what we do too? that’s just crazy!!!!!

    Misleading title
    Guest
    Misleading title

    The title is totally misleading. He wasn’t barred from praying. They asked him to remove his shoes and he didn’t listen. Maybe they made him feel uncomfortable, maybe they didn’t, but no one barred him from praying anywhere.

    I don't see what the big deal is
    Guest
    I don't see what the big deal is

    It’s not like he was telling him to take off his tallis and tefillin. If you’re going to pray in a multi-faith facility, you’re agreeing to respect the basic tenants of other people’s faiths. If it’s an issue for muslims to wear shoes in a mosque, then you should respect that. It’s like if someone whipped out a cross in a synagogue, we would find that disrespectful. I don’t think it’s an issue of Jewish pride or not or even of antisemtism, not every uncomfortable situation is a hate crime, he wasn’t barred from praying, he chose to leave the… Read more »

    what a title
    Guest
    what a title

    Article Doesnt corroborate the title

    @ #15
    Guest
    @ #15

    He was banned from praying though, as Jews cannot pray without shoes on. Why do their rules override ours?

    Multi faith room!!!
    Guest
    Multi faith room!!!

    its called ‘Multi faith’ as you have to have a lot of faith in the following
    1. you wont be kicked out by a ben yishmoel.
    2. you wont be kicked out by a pacifist to benei yishmoel
    3. you wont be attacked as by the PC brigade.
    4. you have to have a LOT of faith that the system will work the way its supposed to.

    #15
    Guest
    #15

    You obviously didn’t understand what happened. If it had been a mosque, you’d be right, but it’s a multi-faith prayer room, so no official had any business dictating to him how to pray.

    Really Shmuli?
    Guest
    Really Shmuli?

    You shouldn’t daven in a place with a cross. And like the other commenters say – you r making a big deal out of nothing!

    Shmuel baron
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    Shmuel baron

    Shmuel keep up the good work!

    To #15
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    To #15

    That would only be true if this were actually a mosque. It is not, it is a multi-faith room. By definition, that means that any faith can be practiced in the air, according to the rules of that particular faith. Since in Judaism, we pray with our shoes on, the rabbi had all rights to expect to be allowed to do so!

    Ask a Rov
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    Ask a Rov

    Although it may be permitted to Daven in such a room if there are no religious symbols on display, Rabonim do advise that it is preferable not to Daven in a multi-faith room.
    Davening in the lobby or at the gate is preferable.

    Not a place I would step into!
    Guest
    Not a place I would step into!

    Daven in a public area… Be proud of ur religion! I used to be like you growing up in london and was embarrassed to daven on the trains… A few years living in NY got me used to it and now when ever I’m anywhere else in the world I have no problem davening in public.

    What cross?
    Guest
    What cross?

    Where are all these people getting the idea that there is a cross? There is no cross — the Moslems would not allow it. The idea is that it’s completely parev, so everyone can pray there. Thus removing shoes is a courtesy to the Moslems, so that they can feel comfortable there as well. And who says you can’t daven in socks, in a place where that is considered respectful? On the contrary, soon the Beis Hamikdosh will be built, and we will all remove our shoes before entering the Har Habayis.

    this is how nazi germany started
    Guest
    this is how nazi germany started

    may i just point out, that one of the first signs of the holocaust, was the jews being rejected from simply BEING places. (parks, etc)
    ………

    He WAS barred/prevented from praying!!
    Guest
    He WAS barred/prevented from praying!!

    He WAS barred from praying!!! He can not pray without shoes on so he WAS barred from praying! If a Muslim was told he had to keep his shoes ON to be in that room then HE would be barred from praying because he can’t pray with shoes on!
    Stop saying he wasn’t barred because he was!
    This “guard” was probably Muslim and he thinks everyone needs to pray like that. He probably felt some weird ownership to the place.

    To Mr. #8
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    To Mr. #8

    If the room had a cross in it, the Muslims wouldn’t be praying there either.

    Misreprosented
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    Misreprosented

    I think that the authorities should change the sign on the room to say “this room for Moslems ONLY” all others forbidden to pray here

    Am Horatzus
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    Am Horatzus

    Very sad that they don’t teach Judaism in Yeshiva,

    An educated person would ask who’s rule is the Shoes, if it is a particular religion then Sorry this is not a Mosque ,

    in this case Very sad story of am horatzus ignoramus + arrogance

    A Jew should be educated enough to know that God told moses that shoes need to be removed in a holy place,

    His insistence was more important then his ability to admit he does not know the law of moses…… too bad

    Update
    Guest
    Update

    Heathrow apologized on Twitter.

    To #30
    Guest
    To #30

    Maybe you need to learn a little Judaism yourself. See Maimonides’ Mishneh Torah, Laws of Prayer 11:10: “A person may enter a synagogue with his… shoes…”

    Yaakov Krakow
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    Yaakov Krakow

    I’m sorry, but I have to state that this is a perfect example of “Teyvel ihm ha Sheretz” . . . . dunking in a mikvah while holding a dead lizard or insect . . . “multi-faith” prayer room by definition is going to include religions that, according to Jewish Law, are classified as idol-worship, hence making it at least inappropriate, at worst halachically forbidden, to pray there. Any rabbi should know this and abide by it, even if for no other reason than “moris ayin.” For a Jewish person to choose to pray in such a room (which is… Read more »

    :-)
    Guest
    :-)

    I was in the Heathrow airport chapel several years ago – there’s no religious symbols. It’s an empty room with many mirrors and an armoire in the corner. Half way through shachris (no one else was around except for the attendant) about 50 muslims packed into this tiny room. Too a rug from the armoire and began to pray.

    lichatchila
    Guest
    lichatchila

    he should not have gone in there but once he did, he definitely should ask for an apology and stand up for himself.

    Uk is for the muslims
    Guest
    Uk is for the muslims

    I come from England. When i was a kid the church bells rsng on a sunday and they sang carols at xmas. Didnt bother me. Now the muslims are taking over. Dont fook yourselves uk jews. Especially ilford. Its full of them. They sourround the yidden. Ugh

    Londonistan
    Guest
    Londonistan

    Londonistan has become the largest caliphate in the West.

    To #30
    Guest
    To #30

    A person as learned as you should know of a mitzva called “ahavas yisroel” and would not write such a harsh comment against a specific person (his name is in the articale so it is not the same as me responding to you) attempting to embarase him in public. You are correct that Mosses had to remove his shoes but when we daven we have to do so with our feet covered and socks is not a respectful way to daven.

    U.K. Was once GREAT
    Guest
    U.K. Was once GREAT

    There was once a politician called Enoch Powell he predicted there would come a time in Britain that rivers of blood would run in the streets of England if mass immigration happend
    This was fourth years ago
    He was right
    I

    You can not daven in that room al pe halcha!
    Guest
    You can not daven in that room al pe halcha!

    A jew can not daven in a multi faith prayer room… Why was a chabad Rabbi davening in there anyway?

    ymg
    Guest
    ymg

    The yoke of the nations is not upon us. We have a right and a responsibility to be who we are without apology. Justice means that as light to the nations we are the head and not the tail. They are a false religion and they have no right to impose as they do.

    Maybe a group of chevre can go to that room
    Guest
    Maybe a group of chevre can go to that room

    and make a loud minyan. Bring yarmulkes and tell everyone they have to put one on. Chase yishmael away and show him whos the boss !!! Just watch your back

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