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Protest Over Chabad Hater

Ohr Somayach Rabbi Dovid Orlofsky will lecture at the Chofetz Chaim Tisha B'Av event about Ahavas Yisroel. Orlofsky was recorded attacking the Lubavitcher Rebbe in the most degrading and malicious manner. Full Story, Audio, Video

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I know Rabbi Orlofsky
November 22, 2009 10:17 am

He is an excellent speaker and has koach to be mekarav many teenagers and young adults because of his sense of humor injected into his talks. There are no excuses for the words he allegedly said, but it’s possible he knew his audience and that they would laugh. But he was playing with fire. Getting a life at all costs fits a TV talk show, but not Rabbi Orlofsky and the Chofetz Chaim organization. However,very sadly I really believe that there are people who exist that believe that the rules of Ahavas YIsroel and Lashon Ha’ra do not apply to… Read more »

the original movie doesnt work
July 30, 2009 8:13 am
In perspective.
July 29, 2009 10:19 am

What other organization would respond so quickly and strongly. Mr. Rothschild deserves our thanks.

By calling others Stupid Misnagdim you are just as bad as anybody else.

Even though his comments did cause pain and are inexcusable we must have that extra Ahvahs Chinam and forgive him. The Rebbe never instructed us to get offended on his behalf; he did instruct us to do all we can to bring Moshiach.

If we get so worked up when someone speaks out against the rebbe we should get at least equally worked up to do what the Rebbe asked us to do.

To #103 and all others.
July 29, 2009 9:37 am

Rabbi Orlofsky claims in his ‘apology’ that “The words I said, were said – once, in response to a question of a talmid, to a class of 8 people.” Yet for anybody who actually listened to the recordings, that is a bald lie. He started his slander of Chassidim and the Besh”t as part of his prepared remarks, and continued from there. Yes, he ALSO made sure to use the questions as a springboard for further vile slander. I think it is, sadly, premature to discuss accepting R’ Orlofskys ‘apology’ until he issues an honest retraction of what he said.… Read more »

tanya perek lamed beis
July 29, 2009 9:23 am

We should only accept his apology when he begins learning Tanya and Chassidus, and when he is tested on Perek lamed beis and can teach it and say it by heart will we know to forgive him or not!!!
Moshiach Now!!

this is 86 to 91
July 29, 2009 7:11 am

actually, never mind.
Have an easy and meaningful fast.

this is 86 to 91
July 29, 2009 7:10 am

find me where is the בזיוןin what he wrote.

VERY DISAPPOINTED AND DISTURBING
July 29, 2009 7:09 am

HOW DARE THIS INDIVIDUAL SPEAK ABOUT THE BAL SHEMTOV AND THE LUBAVITCHER REBBEIM  IN A DISRESPECTFULL WAY.Now that the Chofetz Chaim Heritage Foundation is aware of this Horrible individual actions, Let’s see how they choose to adrress this situation.   That will be the real REALITY.

IT IS LH
July 29, 2009 7:09 am

TO CALL HIM A CHABAD HATER

to 115
July 29, 2009 7:03 am

ya. and thats what counts

wow every time i refresh this page there are more comments!
July 29, 2009 6:57 am

heads up fellow chassidim, WE know whats the truth.
have an easy fast brothers!

To 107
July 29, 2009 6:55 am

Exactly. I am certain he still believes every word.

To Joe the Plumber, didn’t Coral Springs remove themselves already?

Crown Heights Mother
July 29, 2009 6:52 am

i just called, got straight through, & spoke to a very polite young lady. I pointed out what the outcry would be if any Lubavitcher maligned say, Rav Eliyashiv. She actually was very nice, professional, and sounded quite sympathetic.

I asked her if he is still on the program & she didn’t know. Which means he is, I suppose.

Please call! Protest him being allowed to participate.

Extremist
July 29, 2009 6:51 am

Like it or not we have our extremists and so do they but we still have to move on So let’s just move on.One of the Shluchim spoke by a gathering and said that while the miisnagdim were bashing us we were doing the Rebbes shlichus and didn’t have time waste with there kleine keppelech MOSHIACH NOW!!!!

Forget and forgive...
July 29, 2009 6:49 am

To collive, after this sincere apology he has given to everyone, i think it would be only right erev tisha b’ov for the vidoe to be taken off, he has said sorry and it’ll be sad if many more people will watch the vidoe and think negatively of a fellow jew, and speak even more lashan hora!!!
Thank you

hey al you dudes - https://collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=4714
July 29, 2009 6:47 am

like that will help! the deed was done. who needs enemies such as ha*as, ah****dijad (however you spell that rashas name) or sa**am when you have orlofsky?

too little, too late.
July 29, 2009 6:45 am

I just read Rabbi Orlovsky’s apology and the CCH. 1. Whatever apology he made (& it was a strong one, I have to admit) it doesn’t alter the fact that he is a hypocrite. He is standing up to talk about Shmiras Haloshen after what he said??? He should voluntarily step down or be removed. 2. He doesn’t deny he said those terrible things (well, how could he?) However, he doesn’t repudiate them either. As far as I know he still believes them & my guess is he has said them since. We all say what’s in our heart, especially… Read more »

Joe the Plummer
July 29, 2009 6:43 am

There are several Chabad houses listed on the flyer, who are participating in this event all over the USA. Please contact these Chabad houses and request that they remove themselves from this event. Chabad of Coral Springs, Chabad of Jacksonville and Chabad of Edmonton.

To 103
July 29, 2009 6:40 am

I read his half hearted “apology”. Nowhere does he say that he thinks what he says was wrong.He merely regrets that this caused a problem right before his speech is broadcast.

to 91, from 86
July 29, 2009 6:38 am

You didn’t listen to the tape. He didn’t slander the Rebbe ONCE. I listened to the thing and typed it, here it is: Did you listen to the tape? He quotes the Brisker Rav saying “This meshigine thinks he’s Moshiach”. , and claims that it is now quoted by Lubavitchers to prove the Brisker Rav thought Rebbe was Moshiach. (Btw R’ Orlofsky made a mistake- the Rebbe was not in the Sorbonne w/ R’ Hutner and R’ Soloveitchik.) The next thing he says about the Rebbe is his description of a “historic meeting between Rebbe and R’ Noach Weinberg”, who… Read more »

Ahavas Chinom
July 29, 2009 6:24 am

His words are disgusting and disgustful – full of Sinas Chimon… this is but a minuscule piece of evidence of the blatant baseless hatred that permitted some of the misnagdishe world and almost died out 50-60 years ago but was rekindled in bney brak by the Rosh Yeshiva….. Please understand, that the intolerance and slandering of Chabad by this kinds of people is going on for HUNDREDS of years R”L. they always find new “excuses” and “reasons”. So when you see hear someone degrading Chabad, don’t jump on the bandwagon and say: you see what “Yechi…” causes…. the same EXACT… Read more »

To 92
July 29, 2009 6:20 am

Would the rebbe ignore it ??? If someone called the Freidika Rebbe a Mush… & an Apik…. ,you can be sure The Rebbe wouldent have him speak at a Chabad function. ( Actually the guy mentioned the the FR was put in Ches). Kyudua,what The Rebbe thought about AK for the pain he caused The FR.

Specific Incidents of Rabbi Orlofsky's loshon hora about Chabad
July 29, 2009 6:19 am

According to Rabbi Orlofsky, he spoke loshon hora about Chabad and the Rebbe one time and one time only, and it was in a closed room with 8 people. Does anyone know of any other specific incidents where he disparaged Lubavitch? If so please detail them. I am close to the Chofetz Chaim Heritage Foundation, and a Chabadnik, and i am seeking this information L’toeles

Yossy
July 29, 2009 6:12 am

Why publish garbige in collive? s snag allways will be a snag, so what new? keep garbige in the garbige

yakiru veyedu!!
July 29, 2009 6:11 am

this guy is great!! he has it all figured out. he is so right when he says “you nare either a lubavitcher or you are a nobody”.
asides for his obvious bias, he saying the right thing. it is us or bust!
he is obviously weak on history, but he is publicizing our real message.

To #92
July 29, 2009 6:10 am

From your words I can detect are are no Lubavitcher, never learned in Lubavitch and could not care less about making the Rebbe proud. More so, if you are a man or bochur, I can tell you never learned basic Shulchan Aruch or Gemara. In Gemara Shabbos, amud 119 its says: אמר רב יהודה אמר רב כל המבזה ת”ח אין לו רפואה למכתו “willing to forgive”? 1. Who are you to forgive something that unforgivable as Rav Yehuda says in Shabbos. 2. If this person “did teshuva” as you claim, why don’t we see it, why doesn’t he come out… Read more »

non-lubavitcher
July 29, 2009 6:10 am

CHABAD IS #1 !!!!

Relax
July 29, 2009 6:09 am

I disagree with 96. The guy needs some serious checking. After that, help may or may not be necessary …

TO ALL THOSE WHO SAY "AHAVAS YISROEL"
July 29, 2009 6:04 am

ITS VERY EASY TO SAY “HAVE AHAVAS YISROEL’ BUT THIS IS OUR FATHER YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

Any real chossid who loves the Rebbe as their father is genuinely hurt by his words.
Its not about explaining anything, its the emotion.
When a person’s parent is ridiculed and slandered, the natural reaction is to defend and protect them.

This guy needs some serious help
July 29, 2009 6:01 am
AHAVAS YISRAEL
July 29, 2009 5:58 am

The Bais Hamikdash was destroyed because of sinas chinam. Hashem is giving us all such a great opportunity to have ahavas yisrael.Even, NO ESPECIALLY, when it’s hard. Don’t you think its ironic that this is all coming up on of all days EREV TISHA BA’AV??? Here’s your chance to rectify the past…rectify the very thing that got our holy Beis Hamikdash taken away. We are not the White House, being Jewish is not about having politics,,,Take the high road and bring MOSHIACH even closer by doing what you believe to be right, instead of wasting your time taking someone else’s… Read more »

Rabbi A K
July 29, 2009 5:55 am

Rabbi Kahanov you have to write to have guy to speak on Tisha Bav it is a cause to bring more the – G-D – forbid Tisha Bav to continue 1. Sinas Chinom the cause for the 2nd Beth Hamokdosh destroyed. and 2. SHEBIZU BO TALMID CHOCHOM the cause for the 1st Beth Hamikdosh destruction . this guy is a mecuzaf the Amalek stile Yodeia Es Ribynei Umchavn Limrod Boy. he knows all the things he said are blaant lies and yet he say’s it with a strait face – niche Ymach Shmo who said the grater the lie the… Read more »

I called
July 29, 2009 5:55 am

First they made me listen to a 3 minute talk on viahavta leraicha kamoicha and about how through judging other lekaf zchus we will bring moshiach- then when she ame back on the phone i respectfully said that i am calling about the speaker orlofsky- and she said that there were lotsa complaints and something will be done within the hour- yahser koach!!!

Is this a kiddush Lubavitch?
July 29, 2009 5:51 am

Are we behaving like people who care about our fellow Jew and are willing to forgive? Or are we jumping onto every person whose faults we see, even though that person said this stuff years ago and did teshuva?
Are we making a Kiddush Hashem or a Chillul Hashem?
Are we making the Rebbe proud?
Would the Rebbe tell everyone to go call the CCHF and complain, or would he ignore it?

to Mr. 86
July 29, 2009 5:51 am

What in the world are you talking about? why are you berying your head in the ground? (are you even a Lubavitcher?) “It’s not like we’ve never felt the temptation to say LH about another yid” What this Orlofsky said is Loshon Hora? Are you kidding me? This is ביזוי תלמיד חכם, מוציא שם רע, הלבנת פנים, שנאת חינם, שקר, וכו’ וכו’ This is what Harav Michel Yehuda Lefkowitz, Rosh Yeshiva of Ponevezh, said in the past on this matter: השו”ע (יו”ד סי´ רמ”ב) מביא דברים חמורים ביותר על ביזוי כבוד רבו וז”ל: “כל החולק על רבו כחולק על השכינה,… Read more »

how about some shmiras halashon
July 29, 2009 5:49 am

Let the Rebbe and Hashem worry about what he said. What is done is done.
Adding to it doesn’t help anything.

Relax
July 29, 2009 5:46 am

Why is everyone bent out of shape – this dude needs to check his yichus – he is either a shegetz or a mamzerl, I would not even call him an apikores – he does not know enough to be qualified for that title. And why are you all so bent out shape and making a big deal out of him. And regarding the organization – what else is new, were you just born yesterday? You have to pay attention to every dog that barks!?

The yetzer hara is working really hard
July 29, 2009 5:41 am

let’s fight him by minimizing the LH we say about ANY yid- even if it seems the most tempting, the most selfrighteous and the most deserved! and in that zechus may we be zoche to Moshiach bemeheira byameinu mamash!!

I calld
July 29, 2009 5:34 am

I spoke to them they promise that there doing something about it they are getting hundreds of call–keep them coming this man should not here the end of it!!!

Yitamu Chataim V'lo Chotim
July 29, 2009 5:33 am

R’ Orlofsky inspires many people. So he made some mistakes.
It’s not like we’ve never felt the temptation to say LH about another yid, we are all guiltly. Let’s all do teshuva together and MOshiach please come NOW!

Please
July 29, 2009 5:31 am

Don’t make a big deal, just watch the other video which is perfectely good. and make a point by the numbers.

Kabel et ha’emet mimi she’amro.

Loshon Hara
July 29, 2009 5:30 am

Like someone said, maybe he did teshuva. We have to have Ahavas Ysirael.

to #81
July 29, 2009 5:24 am

thats good news
there are eliche yidden working at Chofetz Chaim Foundation and i’m sure they will make the right decision

Show them waht chabad is
July 29, 2009 5:12 am

dont call them in a huff and a moment of anger. Be repectful, calm cool and collected and just state your point.

Just Got off the Phone wth Them
July 29, 2009 5:12 am

They said they have received hundreds of calls and the one who is in charge promises to deal with this with in the hour ( i thnk his name is rothstein) Maybe even if the speaker cant be pulled – they should demand a full retraction and apology to an Eidah of Klal Yisroel that thy Malignied before he speaks..Yitamu Chatoim Vlo Choitim

How Ironic
July 29, 2009 4:55 am

The image they used fr the topic is a grenade, how apropriate

THE RABBI IN MINNESOTA
July 29, 2009 4:55 am

THE RABBI IN MINNESOTA WHO IS SHOWING THE VIDEO HIS NAME IS RABBI ASHER ZEILINGOLD. CAN PEOPLE PLEASE CALL HIM AND TELL HIM HE CAN NOT SHOW THE VIDEO AND DO WHAT EVER IS IN HIS POWER TO MAKE SURE THE VIDEO IS NOT SHOWN????
HIS CONTACT NUMBERS ARE 651 303 5429 OR
651 690 2137 THE OFFICE NUMBER IS 651 698 8222
AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE SHOULD CALL HIM OR SOMEONE THERE SHOULD SNIP THE CORD!!! PEOPLE PLEASE THIS IS TERRIBLE THAT A CHABAD SHUL IS GOING TO SHOW THE MISNAGDISHE PROPOGANDA!!!

Shliach
July 29, 2009 4:54 am

After watching the clips and their “great talented speakers of Gadlus,” I think any attention paid to them by us would be a compliment, and we should let them continue their wonderful work of “Harbotzas Hatorah” – I think the Pellin Character which my kids watch, would do a better job than these comics.

A bitter Golus it is. But a Simon for Moshiach it also is, Pnei Hador K’pnei…

Rabbi Soloveichik and the Rebbe
July 29, 2009 4:54 am

this guy is way off about Rabbi Soloveichik. if you are interested in what Rabbi Soloveichik said about the Rebbe, go here:
http://www.chabad.org/529492

Chabad Coral Springs
July 29, 2009 4:52 am

I personally called them yesterday before seeing this discussion on Achdus and told them to have our name removed, which they assured me they will do

when you call
July 29, 2009 4:52 am

When you call, try not to prove his point by acting like a moron. Speak respectfully.
Another thing is that it is one thing to have different views from Chabad. We cannot ban people from arguing with our shitos. But this guy does not speak about issues, he is speaking slander. Telling supposed stories which he uses to slander all of Chabad.

Corrective Action
July 29, 2009 4:51 am

I think the corrective action that we must take in the future is to start producing our own Tisha Be’av videos. Although the style that have been doing is very mussardik, we can so the same concept with a Chassidishe twist. This will save us from having to give a platform to people such as these.
Hatzlocho.

Outrageous!!!
July 29, 2009 4:47 am

What this man stands for is outrageous. He must not be allowed to be featured by the Chafetz Chaim foundation. PLEASE KEEP CALLING AND EMAILING.
Send it to the link to your family and friends especially non-Lubavitchers and ask them to call and email.
With G-d’s help it will be Didan Nutzach!

practice what you preach is right
July 29, 2009 4:47 am

and number 12.
Don’t stoop to nekama when our strong point IS AHAVAS YISRAEL!

Loshon Hora
July 29, 2009 4:44 am

Why are we copying him. Maybe he has done Teshuvah.

to # 28
July 29, 2009 4:43 am

ther’s nothing to answer. this guy says one lie after the next… things that are documented…if you whant to know i can tell you where and what but “amefursamos enom tzrichim rayos”. you could mamash hear the hatered in his talk. disgusting.

infuriated
July 29, 2009 4:40 am

i should just clarify, the point i am making is that how can you say the rebbe didnt wear a yermulka?

Audio works!
July 29, 2009 4:19 am

they added a line “Can’t Listen? click here” in the end of the article

teach him a lesson
July 29, 2009 4:17 am

“shomer piv uleshono shomer metzoros nafsho” this guy must learn his lesson real thick and heavy I cant fathom it that this foundation sponsored him what a shame!

I just called them
July 29, 2009 4:16 am

I was polite, she sent me to a voicemail, and i left a message how disappointed i was of them

infuriated
July 29, 2009 4:12 am

such crap. “the rebbe would not learn without a yarmulka”
what utter BS.

a shliach's opinion
July 29, 2009 4:10 am

Lo zu haderech. This fellow is guilty of Rechilus moitzie shem ra and loshon horoh. Did he do any homework to investigate his facts before talking publicly on these issues. How can he be a spokesperson for being careful on how and what one should speak when he is guilty of every principle the Chofetz Chaim stood for. Nevertheless what this fellow says is no different than what all people of his persuasion believe. The problem is in us, no different than the problem is in Israel for not being strong in its own convictions. The problem is in OUR… Read more »

Utterly surprised
July 29, 2009 4:09 am

I always thought of the Chofetz Chaim Foundation was a nice organization spreading chizuk and not hate

I can’t believe it

A Yid from Atlanta

email
July 29, 2009 4:03 am

please email this article to all your friends, and get them to send it on. get everyone to call!

How could this be?!
July 29, 2009 4:00 am

this speaker is talking pure loshon hora!!

check out the rest
July 29, 2009 3:57 am

if this is the case i think the rest of the speakers should also be checked out!

to 56
July 29, 2009 3:54 am

no one is taking issue with the other respectable speakers. i’m sure they are all yirei shamaim and qualified to speak on these matters – it’s this shone chinas that is the problem like trash in a pile of diamonds

exposure it works
July 29, 2009 3:52 am

the chofets chaim foundation doesnt want negative publicity, the best thing to do is to expose this guy and that they are sponsoring him! what a chilul hashem!

Ephrayim Shapiro is wonderful speaker and works together with chabad in Miami
July 29, 2009 3:49 am

Can’t judge all the speakers by one mislead person, Rabbi Shapiro and a sister of his attended Chabad school for a few years and although he is not chabad he is friendly to and works with Chabad in Miami, His lectures are good.

you must
July 29, 2009 3:46 am

snip the cord!

every call counts!
July 29, 2009 3:45 am

I just called the # on the flyer- I pressed “o” and got through to a woman who said they’ve gotten a “few phone calls” about it- she may be underestimating, but let’s keep calling, to make sure that it’s more than a few! She transferred me to someone’s voicemail, I left a message asking them to do the right thing and replace him with a speaker who truly personifies shemiras halashon.
May everyone have an easy fast, and may we merit the coming of Moshiach immediately!

just called
July 29, 2009 3:44 am

I just called the Chofetz Chaim Foundation and they said that they are aware of this issue and that the director is speaking with several Gedolim as to how to rectify the situation.
Everyone should call them!!!!!

i also called
July 29, 2009 3:34 am

PLEASE, everyone should call. I got through to a voice mail. Leave a message!

EMAIL HIM DIRECTLY
July 29, 2009 3:31 am

GO TO GOOGLE
TYPE IN RABBI ORLOFSKY AND EMAIL HIM DIRECLTY WITH YOUR PEACE OF MIND.

to 49
July 29, 2009 3:26 am

who is the chabad rabbi what a chillul hashem ask him if this org. would sponsor someone who spoke against his father mother or his family or himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what he would do then????

SUCH A CHUTZPAH!!!! I CAN'T BELIVE THIS
July 29, 2009 3:12 am

I HEARD IN MINNESOTA IN THE ANASH SHUL THEY ARE SHOWING THIS VIDEO PRESENTATION ON TISHA B’AV AND THE RABBI IS OFFICIALLY CHABAD AND HE IS ENDORSING IT AND HES THE ONE WHO IS ALLOWING THIS IS THERE ANY WAY TO STOP THIS??? HE DOESNT WANT TO HEAR FROM ANYBODY AND HE CLAIMS THAT THE GUY WHO IS SPEAKING ON THE VIDEO IS NOT SUCH A SOINEI LUBAVITCH, BUT THATS NOT TRUE AT ALL, AS THE CHOFETZ CHAIM FOUNDATION IS CLEARLY AGAINST THE REBBE AND LUBAVITCH!!! ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS ON HOW TO STOP THIS BESIDES BY HAVING SOMEONE SNIPPING… Read more »

Practice what you preach!
July 29, 2009 3:11 am

Maybe this is a test to see how strong we are not to speak loshan hora lets overcome it!!

to all you loshon horo'ing him.....
July 29, 2009 3:09 am

do you realize you are copying him?
stand up for yourselves! be chassidim! not through sin’a, only through ahava, explain him that its wrong

to 24 (sholom ber)
July 29, 2009 3:07 am

מארגען איז ט, אב. היינט איז ערב תשעה באב

ANGRY
July 29, 2009 3:06 am

please please everyone should call the organization and have him removed from the pannel of speakers that will be at that event. this is unacceptable

help!
July 29, 2009 2:56 am

the link doenst work.

his stories...
July 29, 2009 2:56 am

he imagined them

so...
July 29, 2009 2:51 am

where do we get to refute him?

Eis Laasos
July 29, 2009 2:49 am

To all you Goody-Two-Shoes out there who suggest that posting this hideous attack on the Chabad movement, and the Rebbe personally, is wrong because of LH and stooping to his level. You are so completely wrong that I don’t know where to begin. This is not the time and place to argue this matter. The main point that you are missing is that this individual is being featured by an organization whose sole purpose is to stop LH and create Ahavas Chimum. Giving this individual a place in this forum is not only entirely hypocritical; it gives him legitimacy and… Read more »

I dont understand whats going on!
July 29, 2009 2:47 am

WHY ISNT THIS DWECK POSTED ALL OVER ON ALL LUBAVITCHER SITES AND BILLBOARDS. YES AND WHERE ARE THE PASHKVILIM? I CANT UNDERSTAND YOU ALL GET OUT AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT DONT JUST WRITE COMMENTS. MY IMMEDIATE ADVICE IS THAT ALL OF YOU OUT THERE POST AND SEND THIS FELLOWS RUBBISH TO EVERYONE POSSIBLE AND KEEP THE PUBLIC AWAY FROM HIM! ITS THE BIGGEST CHILUL HASHEM FOR THE CHOFETS CHAIM Z”L TO BE IDENTIFIED WITH THIS PIECE OF GARBAGE. EXPOSE HIM ON VIN AND BE MEKADESH SHEIM SHOMAIM BY DOING SO AND LETS FINALLY THE LAST BITS OF LOSHON HORAH… Read more »

Call them
July 29, 2009 2:33 am

I called the number on the poster and demanded then pull the speaker,,,, they guy said his phones dont stop ringing.
everyone should do the same

chana
July 29, 2009 2:30 am

everyone should call the number and say this is not acceptable!!! i called!!!!

Who Cares
July 29, 2009 2:30 am

This michutzav is not worthy of being on COL.

from #26...
July 29, 2009 2:30 am

of course we have to stick up for the Rebbe and chabad…
but not through lashon hara. What if, instead of people writing negative things about this person, collive does some kind of poll, like “is it appropriate for him to be speaking at such an event”, etc.
And by all means, we should let them know through an outpouring of phone calls/e-mails, that this is not okay, and we will not tolerate our Rebe being spoken about like this.

listen to 27.52
July 29, 2009 2:20 am

this is where he starts to make fun of chassidim

it is unfortunate that such people are allowed to speak in public

in the first few second i have listened to he speaks the absolute opposite of truth.

What a sleeze ball
July 29, 2009 2:17 am

did you hear his jokes about prostitution?

to all you 'no saying loshen horl losers'
July 29, 2009 2:17 am

what do you mean, by saying this is loshon horo? for years we’ve been doormats. lets stand up for ourselves and tell idionts like orlofsky, YOU CAN NOT SPEAK ABOUT HOLINESS IN THIS MANNER!! We will not accept that. And so we should not accept what someone is spewing to vulnerable neshomohs.

People, where is your pride?!
July 29, 2009 2:13 am

Did anyone of you ever say Tehillim and understand what David Hamelech was talking about? He was hurting over endless slander, bad talk and rumors his enemies spread about him. So is David Hamelech accused of Loshon Hora? There are times when you must speak up. This is not Loshon Hora but Motzi Shem Ra. This person has publicly denounced the Rebbe! This is Chilul Hashem. And yes, the nine days is an appropriate time like any to stand up for what is right. I doubt those people who say ‘this is loshon hora’ are Lubavitchers or even proud Jews.… Read more »

REALITY CHECK
July 29, 2009 2:10 am

This was a lecture apparently of a few years ago. But that still renders it shocking – though it remains debatable whether it should have been put on COL for everyone to have to listen to. It is very upsetting and he will have to live with himself. I agree with the previous post. Let the Aiberhster deal with this. His misquotes are obvious to everyone – just one example which he should have been challenged with is the Rambam’s principle on chezkas moshiach – and not mentioning Rabbi Akiva who supported this belief. He had no one intelligent enough… Read more »

Kamtza Bar Kamtza
July 29, 2009 2:08 am

It sickens to see a Yid speak such Evil against a fellow Yid.
I am sure that the Chofetz Chaim is turning over in his grave right now. This so called Rabbi is trying to throw us back 2000 years of Golus just like Kamtza Bar Kamtza did .We will not let him but instead spread Ahavas Isroel like the Alter Rebbe said after Yud Tes Kislev and show him what Chasidim are all about.

audio anyone?
July 29, 2009 2:07 am

I dont see anywhere to hear what he had to say.

TESHUVAH
July 29, 2009 1:58 am

Rabbi Orlofsky – you have to do Teshuva for maligning someone who was regarded by Rav Solovechik, Reb Moshe etc. as the leading Godol HaDor. You keep talking about “you heard,” “it is told” but supply no concrete sources. To dare get up and malign Lubavitch as you have done necessitates that you ask mechila from all Lubavitchers. Besides your confusion in sources (just the Rambam quote alone, and then citing Bar Kochbo) demonstrates your limited knowledge. Moreover, your attack against sending panim to the Ohel – no different than any Chassidus who leave panim at different kevorim – or… Read more »

A Proud Chabadnick
July 29, 2009 1:51 am

Oh my G-d. I am appalled. I could not even finish listening to the garbage that this guy is spewing. What a chutzpah! To call my beloved Rebbe simply “menachem mendel schneerson”. No rebbe, rabbi or rov! What a sick guy he is!
I am beyond shocked that anyone has respect for a person who could speak -publicly!- about another jew, let alone the greatest leader of our generation!
The chofetz chaim foundation-shame on you!

maybe they're just jealous...
July 29, 2009 1:41 am

Sometimes, when people put someone else down it is because they are jealous. I remember speaking to the wife of an Ohr Someach Rabbi, right after they had come back from their annual convention. I asked her if Ohr Someach Rabbis had come from all over the world. She answered, “People came from all over, but not quite all over the world. We’re not like Chabad. We don’t have that kind of mesiras nefesh to go out to all those really far out places.” My point is, they know what Chabad really is, we know who we are, and if… Read more »

klipa
July 29, 2009 1:25 am

even klipa, the yetzer hara speaks about ahavas yisroel

DEAR COLLIVE ס'איז דאך היינט תשעה באב
July 29, 2009 1:15 am

If you want to be affective, get in touch with the meargenim, this post may be true, but its definitely not a positive thing in any way.

Thank You

SholomBer

this could turn someone off yiddishkeit chas v'sholom
July 29, 2009 12:11 am

im absolutely appalled!!! the second recording makes me sick to my stomach!!! i had to shut it off!!! aghh its mamish sick!!! the way this man interprets things is horrfic, i feel sorry for him and anyone who listen to what he says. he must be a real frume yidd talking about famous actors on tv and their famous shows, and how ironic to have him as an expert on shmiras haloshon, i suppose hes also an expert with nivul peh! ‘moron’ what a disgrace! hes the apikoras, how can a man who is not chabad give such speech regarding… Read more »

Leave it to G-d
July 29, 2009 12:00 am

Leave it up to G-d. He knows how to deal with such people. Who is he and where is he from? Never heard of him before. Must be one of those Gadol-want-a-be guys.

Are we any better?!
July 28, 2009 11:49 pm

Isn’t posting this article just as bad as what R’Orlofsky did? You are all speaking Lashon Harah about him now!!!
Shame on you- learn from others mistakes!

WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW?
July 28, 2009 11:36 pm

why have you published this article… I now have heard Loshon Horoah too… I did not know about Rabbi Orlofsky or the Chofeits Chaim Foundation’s great mistake…
I find this very strange……..?!

This is what we are to do
July 28, 2009 11:32 pm

Call them and say that if this Shvantz will talk, we will blast his words of shame on the PA from our cars at the hall is is to talk at, we will also have a loud PA replay his words of hate at his Ahavas Yisroel confrence.

Keep it up
July 28, 2009 10:16 pm

Keep the loshan hora coming – ikvesa d’Meshicha – moshiach will come sooner – just hope moshiach will come in a good way and not the opposite Ch’vsh

NO LOSHON HORAH
July 28, 2009 9:51 pm

HE MADE UP HIS OWN STORYS NEVER HAPPEND

LIES LIES LIES
July 28, 2009 9:10 pm

this apikores has no idea aobut the first thing of what a rebbe is, and has no idea what chabad is.
and btw the school in S. Barbara is live and well. the chabad school and the other school. the chabad school is bigger

A MUST
July 28, 2009 9:01 pm

this should be posted on all sites not to be “machshil horabim” people must know to keep away from him and the authorities must lock him up for harassement

Mitzvah Rabbah!
July 28, 2009 8:53 pm

If anyone cares prove it! this garbage should be exposed all over the place, all people must distant themselves from him, and he should be put in his place now!!!!!!!!! because of trash like him people are corrupted and end up doing the things we here all about recently.

where?
July 28, 2009 8:35 pm

on what marker does he slander? i’m not interested in listening to his whole bag of hot air

Well
July 28, 2009 7:55 pm

Just wondering what posing something like this accomplishes in such an attacking manner. We must show that we are better and higher than that and won’t slander and deride him. True he said terrible things and should be censured but none the less lets rise above their level and write this article a little better.

A first grader IN CHASSIDUS.
July 28, 2009 7:53 pm

Not to bad mouth him as an individual. Bit this is factual, th only wat to serve something is 1) to know what IT is and 2) be given over to that entity. This is ONLY possible, PROPERLY through CHASSIDUS (we are talking about Hashem). A person needs to make it “big” in life, what would he care if it is a lawyer, doctor…or a MUSSAR GIVER (call it lecturer, won’t help!!). Like we know the story (don’t remeber, with who it was) that they saw this ANIMAL dressed in a Kapota and Streimel, eating a Shabbos Seudah!! CHASSIDUS gives… Read more »

finally
July 28, 2009 7:49 pm

you show them, rabbi kahanov.

Idiot
July 28, 2009 7:24 pm

I met the guy when I was learning in Or Somayach. The guy is am idiot and should not be taken seriously

Joe the Plummer
July 28, 2009 7:08 pm

The title should read Protest Over Jew Hater

I can't believe it
July 28, 2009 7:01 pm

I would have never imagined that people still speak this way…… I thought the fight between misnagdim and chassidm was over (evidently by them copying our minhagim)…….who need iran when you have orlofsky?!!?!

thanks collive
July 28, 2009 6:58 pm

at least someone is sticking up for the rebbe’s kovod!
whoever cares about the rebbe and the baal shem tov should call them to protest!
this is there number: 845-352-3505

Neturei karta
July 28, 2009 6:56 pm

We need to send audios to Neturei karta. V’dal.

NO VIDEO
July 28, 2009 6:53 pm

Please Post the videos…Thanks

Horrified!!!
July 28, 2009 6:45 pm

I am absolutely horrified! this guy should be banned from speaking for any Jewish organization!! I NEVER heard such nastyness against Chabad in my life.

Rabbi Kahanov should NOT allow this evet in his Chabad house.

Hypocritical
July 28, 2009 6:39 pm

COL should not follow the poor middos of the Rabbi who spoke against the Rebbe ZT’L. There should be a formal protest against the organization ‘Chofetz Chaim’ and not against a fellow Jew. People should call the Chofetz Chaim Heritage Foundation’ to protest.

Where is the video of the Rabbi speaking against the Rebbe?

The Audio is Cut Off - Incomplete see links
July 28, 2009 6:32 pm

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